[QUOTE=JL81790;365699]...then calls out Camila on supposedly losing her virginity to Bananas.[/QUOTE]
*raises eyebrow* Are we really certain of this? Or is someone just hoping it is true?
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;365779]*raises eyebrow* Are we really certain of this? Or is someone just hoping it is true?[/QUOTE]
No. Complete rumor. And I doubt Cara would know anyway. My point was that she wants her relationship stuff quiet, but is content to air out whatever she feels like that pertains to other people.
[QUOTE=JL81790;365803]No. Complete rumor. And I doubt Cara would know anyway. My point was that she wants her relationship stuff quiet, but is content to air out whatever she feels like that pertains to other people.[/QUOTE]
The topic of discussion was "What the **** could have made Camila go so crazy over Johnny?" so Cara Maria threw out that possibility, which apparently others in the house already knew about but she didn't. I don't see how this is airing out dirty laundry of anyone as much as answering a question she was told to ask on camera.
I've watched this show long enough to understand when the editing is designed to manipulate viewers into believing a story that isn't completely true. I don't buy into the whole "Cara Maria's awful and deserves everything she gets" **** they're trying to spew out, just like how I didn't believe the whole "Brad and Tori are the worst people on the planet" story they tried to spin on Cutthroat, and we all know now the truth behind that one.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;365781]Nobody but Camilla knows if he did and she sure as **** wouldn't say. it was a rumor that could be true but we don't know[/QUOTE]
If it were true, Johnny would have put it on a billboard along the 405 Freeway through LA.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;365806]The topic of discussion was "What the **** could have made Camila go so crazy over Johnny?" so Cara Maria threw out that possibility, which apparently others in the house already knew about but she didn't. I don't see how this is airing out dirty laundry of anyone as much as answering a question she was told to ask on camera.
I've watched this show long enough to understand when the editing is designed to manipulate viewers into believing a story that isn't completely true. I don't buy into the whole "Cara Maria's awful and deserves everything she gets" **** they're trying to spew out, just like how I didn't believe the whole "Brad and Tori are the worst people on the planet" story they tried to spin on Cutthroat, and we all know now the truth behind that one.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Cara is as innocent in the virginity thing as you do. There's a difference between asking a question that you genuinely don't know the answer to to shed some light on something and asking a question to make a point. If you look at Paula, Ty, and Leroy's reactions, they clearly knew that that wasn't coming and the way Cara laughed and reacted afterwards makes it pretty obvious it wasn't an innocent question.
I said in my post I was on the Cara bandwagon for a long time and I thought a lot of the criticism thrown her way on Cutthroat/Rivals 1 was unfair. I just don't like the way she's carried herself since then. I think, and other cast members have said it as well, that she doesn't get ever get a bad edit in terms of the house drama, in fact she gets a pretty favorable one where nothing is ever her fault. It seems like a few people left Rivals II with a bad taste in their mouth from Cara (Jordan, Marlon, Emily) and when we're talking about people that almost everyone else seems to get along with, I put a little stock in that.
[QUOTE=JL81790;365810]..when we're talking about people that almost everyone else seems to get along with, I put a little stock in that.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't. Two of those three are nobodies and until recently, the third was near recluse socially.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;365806]The topic of discussion was [B]"What the **** could have made Camila go so crazy over Johnny?"[/B] so Cara Maria threw out that possibility, which apparently others in the house already knew about but she didn't. I don't see how this is airing out dirty laundry of anyone as much as answering a question she was told to ask on camera.
I've watched this show long enough to understand when the editing is designed to manipulate viewers into believing a story that isn't completely true. I don't buy into the whole "Cara Maria's awful and deserves everything she gets" **** they're trying to spew out, just like how I didn't believe the whole "Brad and Tori are the worst people on the planet" story they tried to spin on Cutthroat, and we all know now the truth behind that one.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy, all the dirty laundry she could air....
Part of me wishes she would put it all out there(preferably on various social medias) at the same time I respect the fact that she really wants to leave this whole JB debacle behind her... She knows that selling him out now would just make her seem like a bitter ex-girlfriend and she doesn't want to create a strain in her current relationship...
Johnny is not somebody worth of a second (a first) thought..
[QUOTE][I]Camila Nakagawa[/I] [B]@CamilaMTV[/B]
[B]@Agent00stallion[/B] nothing I do/say is towards Johnny, he's not worth a thought in my mind, let alone a tweet ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=V1man;365819]I wouldn't. Two of those three are nobodies and until recently, the third was near recluse socially.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what makes Marlon or Jordan anymore of a "nobody" than anyone else on the show...they're still human beings who sat in a house with her for 6/7 weeks and interacted with her enough to form a negative opinion. I didn't realize that you had to be on the show for a certain number of seasons for your thoughts to count...I'd put more faith in their opinions of her since they didn't have any preconceived notions from past shows that they'd done with her.
[QUOTE=JL81790;365821]I'm not sure what makes Marlon or Jordan anymore of a "nobody" than anyone else on the show...they're still human beings who sat in a house with her for 6/7 weeks and interacted with her enough to form a negative opinion. I didn't realize that you had to be on the show for a certain number of seasons for your thoughts to count...I'd put more faith in their opinions of her since they didn't have any preconceived notions from past shows that they'd done with her.[/QUOTE]
Rephrased...there are nobodies to me. I know and care nothing about them or their opinions. Is that better for you?
Wait how do we know the Johnny/Camila thing is a rumor? The way Paula and Ty and whoever else reacted when Cara Maria said it, it seems like what she said was true she just wasn't supposed to know about it.
[QUOTE=torstar;365852]Wait how do we know the Johnny/Camila thing is a rumor? The way Paula and Ty and whoever else reacted when Cara Maria said it, it seems like what she said was true she just wasn't supposed to know about it.[/QUOTE]
because it is point blank, not true.
I understand that CM has been pretty over the top with her tweets this season, but I think she plays the victim role because she's been a victim almost all of her life (bullied throughout her childhood, high school, etc.). I mean, it can't be that much fun having Paula be nice to your face, then go on to compare you to herpes in front of a million viewers. It can't be that much fun being voted in by the guys, schemed against by the girls, and ****** talked by just about everyone. It can't be that much fun being edited as the weak player in every challenge when there are constantly players performing worse than her. I think Cara had a ****** experience on this challenge and even though she hasn't handled it in the most mature way, I do understand it.
And even though Cara Maria may have called Emily an "arrogant c***", frankly, I'm inclined to agree with her. I think Emily is fairly cocky and even though she has the right to be, that doesn't mean she should exercise that right. Stay humble; arrogance is a nasty trait. And she cannot possibly call Cara out on subtweeting and being passive aggressive when Emily is just as (if not, more) guilty of that.
[QUOTE=GivingTree;365854]I understand that CM has been pretty over the top with her tweets this season, but I think she plays the victim role because she's been a victim almost all of her life (bullied throughout her childhood, high school, etc.). I mean, it can't be that much fun having Paula be nice to your face, then go on to compare you to herpes in front of a million viewers. It can't be that much fun being voted in by the guys, schemed against by the girls, and ****** talked by just about everyone. It can't be that much fun being edited as the weak player in every challenge when there are constantly players performing worse than her. I think Cara had a ****** experience on this challenge and even though she hasn't handled it in the most mature way, I do understand it.
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I was unaware of her past regarding bullying. Considering it, I appreciate her more after seeing some of her youtube videos. She's trying to be herself, be different from everyone, and still be open and caring. It is perhaps one of the reasons she likes Abram because he does not judge her poorly and respects her.
She is probably getting fed up with the way she is being treated and talked about so she is lashing out. If you'd been picked on or bullied most of your life, eventually you would lash out as well.
[QUOTE=V1man;365847]Rephrased...there are nobodies to me. I know and care nothing about them or their opinions. Is that better for you?[/QUOTE]
Well that was mature.
[QUOTE=theman23;365871]something tells me she didnt lose her virginity to Johnny B[/QUOTE]
Camila? I'm pretty sure she did. Paula acted weird when CM said that plus Camila got really mad at CM for saying that and CM kept apologizing to her. That is also probably why she is so attached to him.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;365877]Camila? I'm pretty sure she did. Paula acted weird when CM said that plus [B]Camila got really mad at CM for saying that[/B] and CM kept apologizing to her. That is also probably why she is so attached to him.[/QUOTE]
no, Camila got mad at CM AND Abram during the challenge... hence CM trying to start rumors(if you haven't noticed she is quite passive-aggressive-), which just was the last nail in the coffin for C...
and she was attached to him bc she is a human being with a full spectrum of human emotions, simply as that .......and while it my have been shown as a simply by-side hook-up on the show, plenty of ppl said how doting a couple-like they actually had been(Robin, Rachel, Heather, Mark, Dustin, Diem..etc)....(obviously this did not align with JB's usual edit....) they were actually involved even after the show ended but .... happened, followed by ....., which ended in ...... right before the taping of the reunion show.
cara just need to keep her mouth shut she has been on how many challenges and people still dont really like her and then she plays the victim when they say something back i dont feel sorry for her at all...and she is probably saying things about emily because she knows she is better then her.
[QUOTE=noahh;366038]cara just need to keep her mouth shut she has been on how many challenges and people still dont really like her and then she plays the victim when they say something back i dont feel sorry for her at all...and she is probably saying things about emily because she knows she is better then her.[/QUOTE]
Actually, most of the girls do like Cara Maria and some of the guys don't because she believes in thinking for herself and not just following along like a sheep. She's not a very political player however. As for her playing victim, she was bullied most of her life. ...
The person can dish it out but not take it is Johnny Bananas.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;366041]Actually, most of the girls do like Cara Maria and some of the guys don't because she believes in thinking for herself and not just following along like a sheep. She's not a very political player however. As for her playing victim, she was bullied most of her life. ...
The person can dish it out but not take it is Johnny Bananas.[/QUOTE]
she just need to keep her mouth shut if she doesnt want people saying things back.
[QUOTE=noahh;366059]she just need to keep her mouth shut if she doesnt want people saying things back.[/QUOTE]
Even if Cara kept her mouth shut and never said a negative word about anyone people would still talk **** about her. That's just the personalities of most of the people on The Challenges. Most of them purposely pick fights and manipulate the other competitors with the excuse that "it's all part of the game". Cara needs to cool it on the whining, but she shouldn't be told to "keep her mouth shut" if someone is saying something mean about her. She has every right to defend herself.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;366099]Even if Cara kept her mouth shut and never said a negative word about anyone people would still talk **** about her. That's just the personalities of most of the people on The Challenges. Most of them purposely pick fights and manipulate the other competitors with the excuse that "it's all part of the game". Cara needs to cool it on the whining, but she shouldn't be told to "keep her mouth shut" if someone is saying something mean about her. She has every right to defend herself.[/QUOTE]and that goes for the people who she is saying mean things about they have every right to defend their self as well...if anybody do say something bad about her people think that they are just picking on her....when in fact she said something first....so they retaliated.
[QUOTE=noahh;366114]and that goes for the people who she is saying mean things about they have every right to defend their self as well...if anybody do say something bad about her people think that they are just picking on her....when in fact she said something first....so they retaliated.[/QUOTE]
In the past, she has been pretty horrible about that but I think lately, she has gotten really good about keeping her mouth shut. The only person she has really had beef with is Emily and she's not really instigating it. She even has Emily blocked so she doesn't see what she is saying about her half the time unless someone tweets her about it. I might be in the minority but I don't find her "whining" annoying. I take it as more of a behind the scenes look at what was actually happening in that moment and how she felt. She is very good about interacting with her fans too which I find very admirable.
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