stop rationalizing her idiotic mate decisions. there are other women that are similarly as traumatiezd but dont act this way. whats britney's excuse anyways? what about nany? or mandi, anastasia, etc.? this isnt a result of jonnas unique past, its a result of her superficiality. there a lot of girls like her.
its bad that zach is shitting on her as a TEAMMATE, that i will give you. thats not okay at all considering that jonna is a good competitor IMO, but as far as her feeling jealous and hurt that zach left her, i dont feel bad for her at all.
Again, maybe slow your judgment unless you were bounced around foster care all your childhood and raped as a 13 year old
on the contrary, studies show that women that are sexually abused at young ages usually resort to complete avoidance of sexual relationships with men in general or they turn into serial sleepers with with little discernment of standards. that means they sleep with ugly or physically undesirable men as well. compared to "normal" women, sexual abuse doesnt make you anymore or any less attracted to hot guys like zach. from what we know, jonna is just excessively thirsty for the hot guys(jordan, zach, CJ)
how do you explain anastasia, mandi, nany and brittany? youre trying to attribute her sexual abuse as a child as the reason for her romantic attachment to zach when in reality it has nothing to do with that at all. like a lot of the other women on this show, shes just superficial, thats all. its a characteristic that a lot of people share and its not something completely unique to jonna or other victims of sexual abuse.
Apparently considering for even a second that traumatic events in someone's life could have affected them is too much for you... And saying "studies show this" is the epitome of lazily writing off something that is very complicated and can't be boiled down to a sentence or two.
oh whatever, youre not making any sense and you know it.
why did you go from defending both jonna AND britney to only defending jonna despite the fact that theyre both acting the same way?
i personally think jonna is still romantically and sexually attached to zach because hes attractive and shes vain. it has zilch to do with being sexually abused when she was younger and you know it too, which is why youve dropped britney out of this equation because including her in it would prove my point that the both of them are just acting on their hormonal imperatives(aka thirsty for abs and muscles) instead of some weird dark past.
I included Brittany in one earlier statement. Every subsequent one was about Jonna, so I dropped Brittany only because I don't know much about her, never having watched AYTO.
Jonna has stated both on the show and in interviews that she just wants to fix things with Zach and become friends. I don't think that's unusual considering their past. I also don't think it's unusual to cry when you overhear your partner calling you unstable and stupid, or to get annoyed when he deliberately hooks up in front of you. If you don't believe her, fine, but I do.
And your argument about Jonna only liking big, masculine guys is kind of made null if you watch Cancun. Neither Matt (her ex) nor Patrick (the guy she hooks up with) look anything like that.
pat was a DJ=life of the party, popular, a person with a high rank in social group. its not like he was some alternative bookworm or dork/nerd. furthermore he was also being pursued by jasmine and she probably got an upgrade to the ego knowing she could take her guy.
matt...um, she dumped matt and made him look like a subservient cuckhold fool on national TV when she cheated on him and went after muscular, mainstream jock CJ.
the only guy that disproves this is probably isaac but nothing really came out of that beyond that superficial bit we saw on free agents. she has a pattern, a "type". its the same type that many other women have and we saw it three times in this very ONE episode with nany and brittney. her sexual abuse has nothing to do with it.
i agree that its not unusual of her to be jealous of zach and jenna considering that shes still emotionally invested in him...and we KNOW she is based on her own admittance and activities with Jay. just because its normal doesnt mean you should feel bad for her. if anything, if her situatino were unique or out of the norm, i would feel more inclination to feel sorry for her. in this very "normal" situation shes just another thirsty girl still pining over her exceptionally attractive ex or hook up. theres plenty of those. britney, nany...take your pick.
the only thing you shoudl feel bad for her about is how zach treats her poorly as a teammate. that is it.
p0werduck I don't know how you have the energy to fight with people that don't even take the time to comprehend what you're saying.
stupid statement because there is nothing to comprehend. in order for something to be understood there actually has to be logic around it.
you have a bias in favor of jonna so your ability to engage in an honest conversation about her activities is completely tainte...which is fine because we all have our favorites...just dont pretend like youre being objective here
You can tell which people on this site are sheltered and haven't been through NATHAN in their lives. SMH, people show their *** and expose themselves on this site every chance they can lol.
I never knew Jonna was raped. That is terrible. Was this talked about on her season?? Because I don't remember it.
I don't remember it being mentioned on Cancun, but (at least from what I know) it happened right after she was on Endurance
wasn't she like 15 on endurance... that's pretty sad. it breaks my heart actually
Since it was never mentioned on Cancun, how do you all know this?
I believe it was confirmed in an interview somewhere. It's circulated around this website a bit too. I would assume it's not the kind of thing Jonna talks about often. Weirdly enough I think it's actually mentioned on the endurance wikia (I realize this isn't a reliable source I just think it's strange that it's there).
EDIT: Just did some digging and saw a girl on BGC told Jonna to "go get raped again" over something about Zach. It sounds like the girl knew something about it from Zach (i don't watch or follow BGC so I'm not totally sure). This actually seems like it would make more sense.
You can tell which people on this site are sheltered and haven't been through NATHAN in their lives. SMH, people show their *** and expose themselves on this site every chance they can lol.
Just watched the episode, really enjoyed it. To be very honest, first four episodes of Exes 2 are far superior than Exes 1. I actually think this season can be one of the better recent seasons. The house dynamics and partner dynamics are much more entertaining and exciting than the original Exes.
I understand some of these points but being smart has nothing to do with relationships...there's a ton of smart people out there that marry/date idiots. Even if you rationally understand that you shouldn't care about stupid shit there's countless people that can't separate their emotions. That's not me but that's the majority of people IMO. Jonna's one of them....Cohutta was another.
Cohutta's got what he deserved because he watched Nany ******** (or both) Reilly on TV while he was starting a relationship with her and continued down that path...Nany also has a storied past at the point.
Zach wasn't nearly as bad when he and Jonna started up...at least I only knew of Ashley at that point and I have no clue what happened between them as Ashley doesn't seem to talk. If Jonna got back together with him at this point then she'd be on Cohutta's level.
Was Diem stupid for not giving up on CT? Maybe but that's life. People are drawn to certain people and they don't always understand why. Even some that aren't good for you.
And yeah you do need to go through stuff. People are here acting like getting raped ain't shit. "Oh she was just taken advantage of sexually, probably before puberty but what's the big deal guyssssss". Please. Stay in your shelterd little life... The world is too harsh for you.
Jonna chooses to not talk about being a rape victim. I think you all should respect her privacy and refrain from dragging her past through your petty arguments.
Jonna chooses to not talk about being a rape victim. I think you all should respect her privacy and refrain from dragging her past through your petty arguments.
I never knew Jonna was raped. That is terrible. Was this talked about on her season?? Because I don't remember it.
I don't remember it being mentioned on Cancun, but (at least from what I know) it happened right after she was on Endurance
wasn't she like 15 on endurance... that's pretty sad. it breaks my heart actually
Since it was never mentioned on Cancun, how do you all know this?
Jonna was like 11 or 12 endurance. The whole rape thing wasn't mentioned on TV, the only two times I have heard about it was on a twitter war with Danni from bad girls club telling Jonna to go get rape again and when I was doing spoilers for free agents that I end watching Devin (Jonna's roomate at the time) interview that she based her character on a short online film on her experience of being rape and her roomate experience too.
I dont know where that user heard of it, I guess one of those two. But I agree that thats something she hasn't share with the world, so we should respect her privacy.
In the aftershow, does anyone know what song started playing when Preston and Knight were talking after the Rampage mission
Ok, I'm fine agreeing to disagree if you are
p0werduck I don't know how you have the energy to fight with people that don't even take the time to comprehend what you're saying.
wasn't she like 15 on endurance... that's pretty sad. it breaks my heart actually
Since it was never mentioned on Cancun, how do you all know this?
stupid statement because there is nothing to comprehend. in order for something to be understood there actually has to be logic around it.
you have a bias in favor of jonna so your ability to engage in an honest conversation about her activities is completely tainte...which is fine because we all have our favorites...just dont pretend like youre being objective here
I'd say most of my arguments were fairly logical, at least equal to yours. And timster I have too much time on my hands...
You can tell which people on this site are sheltered and haven't been through NATHAN in their lives. SMH, people show their *** and expose themselves on this site every chance they can lol.
I believe it was confirmed in an interview somewhere. It's circulated around this website a bit too. I would assume it's not the kind of thing Jonna talks about often. Weirdly enough I think it's actually mentioned on the endurance wikia (I realize this isn't a reliable source I just think it's strange that it's there).
EDIT: Just did some digging and saw a girl on BGC told Jonna to "go get raped again" over something about Zach. It sounds like the girl knew something about it from Zach (i don't watch or follow BGC so I'm not totally sure). This actually seems like it would make more sense.
who the **** is nathan and why does anybody need to go through him? we have enough ******* on around going on this season already
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This is the single best post of this thread. Hands Down.
Just watched the episode, really enjoyed it. To be very honest, first four episodes of Exes 2 are far superior than Exes 1. I actually think this season can be one of the better recent seasons. The house dynamics and partner dynamics are much more entertaining and exciting than the original Exes.
I'm cryingggg
" Those the ones I like cause they don't get Nathan but penetration/ unless it smells like sanitation/ gar-bag"
I understand some of these points but being smart has nothing to do with relationships...there's a ton of smart people out there that marry/date idiots. Even if you rationally understand that you shouldn't care about stupid shit there's countless people that can't separate their emotions. That's not me but that's the majority of people IMO. Jonna's one of them....Cohutta was another.
Cohutta's got what he deserved because he watched Nany ******** (or both) Reilly on TV while he was starting a relationship with her and continued down that path...Nany also has a storied past at the point.
Zach wasn't nearly as bad when he and Jonna started up...at least I only knew of Ashley at that point and I have no clue what happened between them as Ashley doesn't seem to talk. If Jonna got back together with him at this point then she'd be on Cohutta's level.
Was Diem stupid for not giving up on CT? Maybe but that's life. People are drawn to certain people and they don't always understand why. Even some that aren't good for you.
And yeah you do need to go through stuff. People are here acting like getting raped ain't shit. "Oh she was just taken advantage of sexually, probably before puberty but what's the big deal guyssssss". Please. Stay in your shelterd little life... The world is too harsh for you.
I turn like doornobs/heartthrob never/black and ugly as ever/however/I stay Gucci down to the socks/rings and watch filled with rocks
Classic....
Ayyeeee **** the good 'ol days
Jonna chooses to not talk about being a rape victim. I think you all should respect her privacy and refrain from dragging her past through your petty arguments.
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Finally watched the episode. Editing was horrible. Jonna is queen. Yeah... That's all she wrote.
https://arewerecordingblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/real-worldthe-challe...
LOL great article, my sentiments exactly
Jonna was like 11 or 12 endurance. The whole rape thing wasn't mentioned on TV, the only two times I have heard about it was on a twitter war with Danni from bad girls club telling Jonna to go get rape again and when I was doing spoilers for free agents that I end watching Devin (Jonna's roomate at the time) interview that she based her character on a short online film on her experience of being rape and her roomate experience too.
I dont know where that user heard of it, I guess one of those two. But I agree that thats something she hasn't share with the world, so we should respect her privacy.
That is disgusting. Danni would be a dead *****.
LOL i have noticed that Nany has bacame a trainwreck. "its at a point where you look at her and say, You really need to get your shit together"-Brad
I really liked this after show. I'm just now watching it on demand
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