Why would production not invite Camila? I know that’s probably what happened but I’m trying to find a reason as to why. Do they hate her now? Did they think it was better for her mental health to not be there?It seems weird to not invite the winner to the finale.
I think after her freak out on Champs vs. Stars they were going to try and quietly write her out of the challenge until the cast made them voice what had happened between her and Leroy.
Why would production not invite Camila? I know that’s probably what happened but I’m trying to find a reason as to why. Do they hate her now? Did they think it was better for her mental health to not be there?It seems weird to not invite the winner to the finale.
Also seems odd as they love messy bullshit and would rather have put her on the spot again
wait why is she crying? did they just find out tonight like the rest of us? ..she had to of known she won
MTV filmed 2 different "endings" at the reunion special (according to the spoiler thread). One had Camila and Jordan winning, the other had Derrick and Cara winning. This was to keep spoilers from revealing who finished 1st and 2nd. Based on what has been stated over on reddit, Camila forfeited all winnings from Dirty 30 by not showing to the reunion. Cara wins the first place prize by default, and Tori moves up to second place prize!
LurkerNoMore wrote:Marie did NOT get manhandled by Kailah... She railed honorable mention ****** in that first collision, but gassed out way too quick.
This is true. I think if it were traditional Hall Brawl, Marie would've won.
Naaaaah... She isn't nearly as good as you guys make her out to seem. SHe's just loud and entertaining. Good character bad competitor.
Kailah wasn't jacked back then like she is now. If you rewatch the elimination, Marie had her beat in the physical aspect, but Kailah had the better endurance. The traditional Hall Brawl doesn't require much endurance since the heats are fairly short. I'm the last to overhype Marie competition wise. Now if it were current Kailah versus Marie in traditional Hall Brawl I think Kailah has her beat, but whatever I guess.
I hate to defend Cara Maria, but I have to in two instances:
1) Why was Marie bringing up Cara wearing an "entitled" t-shirt when it was obvious that Cara wore that out of sarcasm to mock the people who kept complaining about her feeling entitled (like Marie herself and Aneesa)?
2) Miss Feminist Veronica should be ashamed of herself for taking the Bananas side in the sexist argument. If Jemmye had made the exact point Cara made, I bet she would have backed it up. Cara was right. It wasn't just the cover up. She was also talking about the way people view the women versus the men. Disappointed in Veronica.
If you like Marie as a person/character that's cool, but yall really need to stop with these delusions of grandeur that Marie is a good physical competitor.
I think Cara was adding too much of her own experience into it. Just based off what i saw on Vevmo, Camila got A LOT more hate than Tony despite him being the one in the relationship. At the reunion, Jordan's girlfriend was never even brought up. Meanwhile they had 2 of Toris 'exes' in the VIP section. Its not really about the sexism of the cast but moreso the general viewers. And production too.
Another example is Cory barely got any heat for his whole Camila and Kailah thing. It was all treated as a big joke. Whereas on Free Agents everyone was tearing Nany apart for her thing with Johnny and Cohutta. I think everyone considers it a bigger deal when a girl does it when that shouldnt be the case.
wildcat777 wrote: wait why is she crying? did they just find out tonight like the rest of us? ..she had to of known she won
MTV filmed 2 different "endings" at the reunion special (according to the spoiler thread). One had Camila and Jordan winning, the other had Derrick and Cara winning. This was to keep spoilers from revealing who finished 1st and 2nd. Based on what has been stated over on reddit, Camila forfeited all winnings from Dirty 30 by not showing to the reunion. Cara wins the first place prize by default, and Tori moves up to second place prize!
lol that's not true - wish it was though!
If this was true I’m pretty sure Cara and Tori would of said something on Twitter by now.
Eh I don't think Camila got hate because of double standards, she got hate cause she's Camila basically. I don't remember Christina getting too much hate when she hooked up with Tony.
But yeah, everything else is spot on. The fact that they awarded Cory that bullshit award smfh. But these are the same producers that kept casting clinically insane Camila time after time so we shouldn't be surprised.
And another thing, I didn't like the way Veronica was treating Aneesa. "I look very vulnerable there." She was trying to make Aneesa look like the villain and herself the innocent victim because she's still so worried about what Rachel will think. That's my theory. I think she's so mad at Aneesa for talking about her relationship with Rachel because she feels guilty about something she did in the past, like refusing to admit to their love on television all those years.
And another thing, I didn't like the way Veronica was treating Aneesa. "I look very vulnerable there." She was trying to make Aneesa look like the villain and herself the innocent victim because she's still so worried about what Rachel will think. That's my theory. I think she's so mad at Aneesa for talking about her relationship with Rachel because she feels guilty about something she did in the past, like refusing to admit to their love on television all those years.
I agree, i'm not a fan of Aneesa but Veronica was being very unfair to her. Her reaction to the whole thing was soo extra, nobody even cared lol. I felt like she was insinuating that Annesa took advantage of her, which isn't fair.
Also i like Rachel but she was a player and messed with a lot of girls emotions, it's obvious she broke both Veronicas and Aneesas hearts. I think most of their bad blood has to do with being jealous over Rachel.
I appreciate Caras point but irrelevant here. Tony is friends with the guys including Bananas they are obviously not going to give him a hard time. Cara is pretty entitled and annoying lately imo
If you like Marie as a person/character that's cool, but yall really need to stop with these delusions of grandeur that Marie is a good physical competitor.
Love Marie but this is true. Hyping up her "collision" with Kailah in that elimination is a reach. She's solid but not very good.
If you like Marie as a person/character that's cool, but yall really need to stop with these delusions of grandeur that Marie is a good physical competitor.
Love Marie but this is true. Hyping up her "collision" with Kailah in that elimination is a reach. She's solid but not very good.
Couldnt be more accurate. People on here just think it’s funny to hype up shitty competitors lol. Liking their personality and thinking they’re good characters is perfectly fine, but the delusions that it’s funny to make believe bad competitors are actually good got old a long time ago.
ReelWhirled wrote:If you like Marie as a person/character that's cool, but yall really need to stop with these delusions of grandeur that Marie is a good physical competitor.
Love Marie but this is true. Hyping up her "collision" with Kailah in that elimination is a reach. She's solid but not very good.
Couldnt be more accurate. People on here just think it’s funny to hype up shitty competitors lol. Liking their personality and thinking they’re good characters is perfectly fine, but the delusions that it’s funny to make believe bad competitors are actually good got old a long time ago.
I wouldn't say she's shitty but average. If your claim to fame is looking impressive in the first 5 seconds of an elimination then yikes. But I love Marie so I hope she does better in the future.
Anyone think this reunion was too forced? Camilla wasn't there to get all the heat, so they just wanted to pull up as many Cara tweets as possible to start something. It was ridiculous and forced, just like bringing Tori's exes on there in part 1.
I'm all for letting this season die & not even making a thread on whatever corny, trash, put-together-the-night-before special that's supposed to air next week.
I hate to defend Cara Maria, but I have to in two instances:1) Why was Marie bringing up Cara wearing an "entitled" t-shirt when it was obvious that Cara wore that out of sarcasm to mock the people who kept complaining about her feeling entitled (like Marie herself and Aneesa)?2) Miss Feminist Veronica should be ashamed of herself for taking the Bananas side in the sexist argument. If Jemmye had made the exact point Cara made, I bet she would have backed it up. Cara was right. It wasn't just the cover up. She was also talking about the way people view the women versus the men. Disappointed in Veronica.
1) Marie should've just stayed shut.
2) I agree, Veronica taking bananas side is a bit of a dissappointment. I do think Bananas was not entirely wrong on Cara wanting Tony to get as much flack as she did, tho. Honestly, Alyssa and Camilla got more flack than Tony did in that regard. So Cara was right about the sexist double standard there. For examply, Cory's segment with Kailah and Aneesa, both Kailah and Aneesa got played hard af with those questions while painting Cory as this player. Then Tori got **** shamed for cheating when she indeed just fell out of love. And yes, one was in a relationship and the other wasn't, but I still think it's a big discrepency how things were handled between men and women. Veronica was just salty and hates Cara enough to not take her side despite her "feminist" views.
Another seaosn and Tony gets the last word and gets let off scot-free for his actions. The privlege is real.
Cara Maria may be annoying and entitled but I was at least on her side anytime she called out Tony and Bananas for sticking up for Tony and validating his friends relationship over Cara's and exploiting it for personal gain. Bananas clearly had no storyline so that was his way to come in just to talk.
I think after her freak out on Champs vs. Stars they were going to try and quietly write her out of the challenge until the cast made them voice what had happened between her and Leroy.
They are gonna give Camilas racist *** her money, that theory sounds like fan fiction zzzzzz
Also seems odd as they love messy bullshit and would rather have put her on the spot again
I highly doubt Camila isn't getting her money & if i was her i would be ****** if that was the case.
lol that's not true - wish it was though!
Fake news
Naaaaah... She isn't nearly as good as you guys make her out to seem. SHe's just loud and entertaining. Good character bad competitor.
Kailah wasn't jacked back then like she is now. If you rewatch the elimination, Marie had her beat in the physical aspect, but Kailah had the better endurance. The traditional Hall Brawl doesn't require much endurance since the heats are fairly short. I'm the last to overhype Marie competition wise. Now if it were current Kailah versus Marie in traditional Hall Brawl I think Kailah has her beat, but whatever I guess.
I hate to defend Cara Maria, but I have to in two instances:
1) Why was Marie bringing up Cara wearing an "entitled" t-shirt when it was obvious that Cara wore that out of sarcasm to mock the people who kept complaining about her feeling entitled (like Marie herself and Aneesa)?
2) Miss Feminist Veronica should be ashamed of herself for taking the Bananas side in the sexist argument. If Jemmye had made the exact point Cara made, I bet she would have backed it up. Cara was right. It wasn't just the cover up. She was also talking about the way people view the women versus the men. Disappointed in Veronica.
Tony has got just as much hate as Cara if not more for cheating, people literally despise him for it. Yall need to chill with this sexist shit
Keep telling yourself that...
If you like Marie as a person/character that's cool, but yall really need to stop with these delusions of grandeur that Marie is a good physical competitor.
I think Cara was adding too much of her own experience into it. Just based off what i saw on Vevmo, Camila got A LOT more hate than Tony despite him being the one in the relationship. At the reunion, Jordan's girlfriend was never even brought up. Meanwhile they had 2 of Toris 'exes' in the VIP section. Its not really about the sexism of the cast but moreso the general viewers. And production too.
Another example is Cory barely got any heat for his whole Camila and Kailah thing. It was all treated as a big joke. Whereas on Free Agents everyone was tearing Nany apart for her thing with Johnny and Cohutta. I think everyone considers it a bigger deal when a girl does it when that shouldnt be the case.
If this was true I’m pretty sure Cara and Tori would of said something on Twitter by now.
Eh I don't think Camila got hate because of double standards, she got hate cause she's Camila basically. I don't remember Christina getting too much hate when she hooked up with Tony.
But yeah, everything else is spot on. The fact that they awarded Cory that bullshit award smfh. But these are the same producers that kept casting clinically insane Camila time after time so we shouldn't be surprised.
And another thing, I didn't like the way Veronica was treating Aneesa. "I look very vulnerable there." She was trying to make Aneesa look like the villain and herself the innocent victim because she's still so worried about what Rachel will think. That's my theory. I think she's so mad at Aneesa for talking about her relationship with Rachel because she feels guilty about something she did in the past, like refusing to admit to their love on television all those years.
I agree, i'm not a fan of Aneesa but Veronica was being very unfair to her. Her reaction to the whole thing was soo extra, nobody even cared lol. I felt like she was insinuating that Annesa took advantage of her, which isn't fair.
Also i like Rachel but she was a player and messed with a lot of girls emotions, it's obvious she broke both Veronicas and Aneesas hearts. I think most of their bad blood has to do with being jealous over Rachel.
I appreciate Caras point but irrelevant here. Tony is friends with the guys including Bananas they are obviously not going to give him a hard time. Cara is pretty entitled and annoying lately imo
Love Marie but this is true. Hyping up her "collision" with Kailah in that elimination is a reach. She's solid but not very good.
Couldnt be more accurate. People on here just think it’s funny to hype up shitty competitors lol. Liking their personality and thinking they’re good characters is perfectly fine, but the delusions that it’s funny to make believe bad competitors are actually good got old a long time ago.
I wouldn't say she's shitty but average. If your claim to fame is looking impressive in the first 5 seconds of an elimination then yikes. But I love Marie so I hope she does better in the future.
She’s shitty because even she acknowledged she can never win a challenge. That’s a losers mentality
Anyone think this reunion was too forced? Camilla wasn't there to get all the heat, so they just wanted to pull up as many Cara tweets as possible to start something. It was ridiculous and forced, just like bringing Tori's exes on there in part 1.
I'm all for letting this season die & not even making a thread on whatever corny, trash, put-together-the-night-before special that's supposed to air next week.
1) Marie should've just stayed shut.
2) I agree, Veronica taking bananas side is a bit of a dissappointment. I do think Bananas was not entirely wrong on Cara wanting Tony to get as much flack as she did, tho. Honestly, Alyssa and Camilla got more flack than Tony did in that regard. So Cara was right about the sexist double standard there. For examply, Cory's segment with Kailah and Aneesa, both Kailah and Aneesa got played hard af with those questions while painting Cory as this player. Then Tori got **** shamed for cheating when she indeed just fell out of love. And yes, one was in a relationship and the other wasn't, but I still think it's a big discrepency how things were handled between men and women. Veronica was just salty and hates Cara enough to not take her side despite her "feminist" views.
Just realized that they totally cut out Jenna's leg in her segment due to her cast so no one would know that she was injured.
Another seaosn and Tony gets the last word and gets let off scot-free for his actions. The privlege is real.
Cara Maria may be annoying and entitled but I was at least on her side anytime she called out Tony and Bananas for sticking up for Tony and validating his friends relationship over Cara's and exploiting it for personal gain. Bananas clearly had no storyline so that was his way to come in just to talk.
I saw it.
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