Jozea and Shane are two sides of the same coin which is why i think they hate eachother.
No gay male is going to pass through a stuffy casting panel of 40 year old white people and not come out a stereotype. They don't put non stereotypical homosexuals on TV. I didn't think that was debatable.
I also don't think it's a problem to be effeminate, sassy and argue with girls all day if that's who you are.
Jozea is a delusional ditz. And, Shane is a conniving shit stirrer.
The main thing they have in common is being messy. But, you'd be better off comparing Shane and Frank, and even then Frank was a lot more whiney and aggressive.
lol yall got it i think there's a reason you guys bring up Marlon ad nauseum because you know he's actually different not the splitting hairs fake different and brings something different to the table but will debate me about guys who got passed in casting for only one specific reason lol
lol yall got it i think there's a reason you guys bring up Marlon as nauseum because you know he's actually different not the splitting hairs fake different and brings something different to the table but will debate me about guys who got passed in casting for only one specific reason lol
Producting seeing all feminine men as one in the same doesn't mean they are ****.
A lot of these straight men play the same roles as others, but production wouldn't care. That's on them for looking at quota filling as just that... to fill a quota.
lol yall got it i think there's a reason you guys bring up Marlon as nauseum because you know he's actually different not the splitting hairs fake different and brings something different to the table but will debate me about guys who got passed in casting for only one specific reason lol
Productin seeing all feminine men as one in the same doesn't mean they are ****.
A lot of these straight men play the same roles as others, but production wouldn't care. That's on them for looking at quota filling as just that... to fill a quota.
what they see is what gets put on tv. if they were as different from eachother as you're saying they'd see it
I hate you KVM for getting Svetlana'a home closed. Why don't you go back to the thread of that fat sl UT girlfriend of yours and leave us all alone forever.
Can we get this thread opened? I promise not to post in there and engage in the attention-seeking attempts. It's a thread that's been around since 2008 and besides one person pointlessly spewing hate, it's a very positive thread.
It's a thread full of nonsense. Should stay closed forever unless she returns
lol yall got it i think there's a reason you guys bring up Marlon as nauseum because you know he's actually different not the splitting hairs fake different and brings something different to the table but will debate me about guys who got passed in casting for only one specific reason lol
Productin seeing all feminine men as one in the same doesn't mean they are ****.
A lot of these straight men play the same roles as others, but production wouldn't care. That's on them for looking at quota filling as just that... to fill a quota.
what they see is what gets put on tv. if they were as different from eachother as you're saying they'd see it
Again, same applies to every man on this show. Everyone in general, everyone is a "type" that's surface level.
I could say John and Wes are interchangeable too because they play similar roles.
>> what made real world great? What made the challenge great? everyday people from various backgrounds looking for an opportunity and then giving no f**ks. It created great stories, drama and emotion from fans. The competition felt different. It was the authenticity that felt real. People like kyland or Michele just don't do it for me. At all. I tune out for the first time since SEASON 1 of the challenge!!
>> what we get now? Fake Instagram celebs. Social media models. There is NO EMOTIONAL connection to every day people and fans. It is all BS FLUFF. It's not real drama built up of years
is it now realistic that we will never get back to the days of the duel, fresh meat, rivals, etc? Or has the world evolved too much where all we get is what we see this season?
have you ever got non stereotypical gays? every single one is a ****** who fights women.
Marlon isn't even gay by definition
every single man on the challenge has fought a woman this isn't a "gay thing" the face of the challenge has a whole thread on twitter of him just bashing women
but what makes any gay man that's been casted on the challenge not a stereotypical gay guy?
Davis, Karamo, Ryan, Preston, Derek, Tyler, JD, Corey, Jozea, Tommy, Hughie, Shane, Tony's brother, Frank like they could all be on the same flyer barely a difference in personality
all of those listed are just as different from each other as you would if you listed any random sample of straight guys or straight girls from the show. put them all in a room together and you'd see very big differences, tyler, tommy, corey, shane, jozea etc are all on very different calibers. they just have some commonalities not really any more than any demographic that gets cast on the show. i think what makes them a stereotype is that they only cast one/two of them per season but if they had more of them in a single cast then the differences would be more visible
also most of those guys are not even close to being fI*mers lol, most are annoying yes but not overtly feminine or flamboyant.
i guess so that's just the way they come off to me. You can put muscles on tinkerbell and she'll still be a fairy.
I think me and Golden already established they are stereotypes to the people that cast them and write their checks. a lot of people are stereotypes and not gay
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, hunter, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
That was one of the points I was making.
None of these men are above the same behaviors. Even ones that aren't cast to be the token gay or two.
please look through Marlon's likes on twitter...he mightve been bi 10 years ago but its clear he has a type LOL
exactly.
when he went on real world, he said he was NOT bi. Then he went on the challenge, he said he was bi. Im not positive about what he said ex on the peak (fluid maybe?), but hes made it very clear on his twitter what hes into.
and isnt the whole point of him being brought up for diversity? Whether hes gay, bi, fluid...whatever. Hes not a hetero man.
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, hunter, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
That was one of the points I was making.
None of these men are above the same behaviors. Even ones that aren't cast to be the token gay or two.
i guess from the viewers, the difference is stark because sometimes, gay men and straight men tend to be misogynistic in different ways, but both still have a misogyny problem lol
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, hunter, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
people literally say that about them....
i've never seen that, but if they are then i'm glad lol
All these men be arguing with women.
James just stepped to Nurys on the last episode. It's not just a gay thing and half the gays, if not most, have argued with men before.
Jozea is a delusional ditz. And, Shane is a conniving shit stirrer.
The main thing they have in common is being messy. But, you'd be better off comparing Shane and Frank, and even then Frank was a lot more whiney and aggressive.
lol yall got it i think there's a reason you guys bring up Marlon ad nauseum because you know he's actually different not the splitting hairs fake different and brings something different to the table but will debate me about guys who got passed in casting for only one specific reason lol
getting dicked down by OF creators
We should Cutthroat 2: Brain vs. Beauty vs. Brawn
Team Brains: Players that are known as tough strategists in the game and also known for their real life smarts.
Team Beauty: Players that get by on their charm and great looks and are most known as being threats due to their genetic advantages.
Team Brawn: Players that are the workhorses that put the muscle time in and get the job done.
Team Brain:
Devin
Bananas
Jordan
Kyland
Paulie
Jay S.
Laurel
Michelle
Amanda
Tina
Veronica
Zara
Team Beauty:
Tony
Horacio
Kyle
Johnny Middlebrooks
Joss
Mark Long
Nurys
Kailah
Averey
Melissa
Natalie N.
Melinda
Team Brawn:
CT
Leroy
Fessy
Darrell
Brad
Cory
Cara
Kaycee
Tori
Emily
Olivia
Aneesa
Producting seeing all feminine men as one in the same doesn't mean they are ****.
A lot of these straight men play the same roles as others, but production wouldn't care. That's on them for looking at quota filling as just that... to fill a quota.
what they see is what gets put on tv. if they were as different from eachother as you're saying they'd see it
It's a thread full of nonsense. Should stay closed forever unless she returns
Again, same applies to every man on this show. Everyone in general, everyone is a "type" that's surface level.
I could say John and Wes are interchangeable too because they play similar roles.
they are all types that's how tv shows are casted there just happens to be more spots available for annoying "alpha man" white guys
"Cast"
And that's where we agree. I'm not saying you're wrong for why you said what you said.
I'm just saying that's a surface level take and those men are more dissimilar when you look at them up close.
I agree they all have different personalities but all still very stereotypical
Preparing myself to be MASSIVELY disappointed.
The casting for the challenge is so bad nowadays.
>> what made real world great? What made the challenge great? everyday people from various backgrounds looking for an opportunity and then giving no f**ks. It created great stories, drama and emotion from fans. The competition felt different. It was the authenticity that felt real. People like kyland or Michele just don't do it for me. At all. I tune out for the first time since SEASON 1 of the challenge!!
>> what we get now? Fake Instagram celebs. Social media models. There is NO EMOTIONAL connection to every day people and fans. It is all BS FLUFF. It's not real drama built up of years
is it now realistic that we will never get back to the days of the duel, fresh meat, rivals, etc? Or has the world evolved too much where all we get is what we see this season?
AgentZero for president.
I just wanna know why Skye casts like she does. Like why does she hate entertainment and success?
all of those listed are just as different from each other as you would if you listed any random sample of straight guys or straight girls from the show. put them all in a room together and you'd see very big differences, tyler, tommy, corey, shane, jozea etc are all on very different calibers. they just have some commonalities not really any more than any demographic that gets cast on the show. i think what makes them a stereotype is that they only cast one/two of them per season but if they had more of them in a single cast then the differences would be more visible
also most of those guys are not even close to being fI*mers lol, most are annoying yes but not overtly feminine or flamboyant.
so pretty much yall saying the only masculine gays they casted was kenny and ct
please look through Marlon's likes on twitter...he mightve been bi 10 years ago but its clear he has a type LOL
i guess so that's just the way they come off to me. You can put muscles on tinkerbell and she'll still be a fairy.
I think me and Golden already established they are stereotypes to the people that cast them and write their checks. a lot of people are stereotypes and not gay
if that's the case then nelson, jordan, hunter, zach, and many others are also fairies cause they've all gone out of their way to fight and argue with other women just as much if not more than the gay men.
That was one of the points I was making.
None of these men are above the same behaviors. Even ones that aren't cast to be the token gay or two.
**** I looked there once and he made it very clear what it likes.
Despite what ppl on here say, a certain well connected podcaster said today that fans will be Very pleasantly surprised by the cast
exactly.
when he went on real world, he said he was NOT bi. Then he went on the challenge, he said he was bi. Im not positive about what he said ex on the peak (fluid maybe?), but hes made it very clear on his twitter what hes into.
and isnt the whole point of him being brought up for diversity? Whether hes gay, bi, fluid...whatever. Hes not a hetero man.
people literally say that about them....
i guess from the viewers, the difference is stark because sometimes, gay men and straight men tend to be misogynistic in different ways, but both still have a misogyny problem lol
i've never seen that, but if they are then i'm glad lol
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