[quote=obinnadaone;16366]i love it how on that reunion coral called out ev and ev didn't have anything to say lol[/quote]
Didn't Ev keep trying to say something, and Coral just kept interrupting? I think Ev was trying to avoid confrontation.
And does anyone mind explaining to me why we all hate on Ev so much? Yeah, she's made some mistakes and bad decisions, but I feel like she's young and still learning and isn't really mean-spirited in any way...just (a little itsy bit) competitive.
[quote=Moonpaw;16400]Didn't Ev keep trying to say something, and Coral just kept interrupting? I think Ev was trying to avoid confrontation.
And does anyone mind explaining to me why we all hate on Ev so much? Yeah, she's made some mistakes and bad decisions, but I feel like she's young and still learning and isn't really mean-spirited in any way...just (a little itsy bit) competitive.[/quote]
I will give you my opinion.
I am all for being athletic and in shape. It is amazing how strong and fit she is. But being cocky about it and making yourself seem soo much better than everyone else is not attractive.
Just because you are strong doesn't mean you are going to be there in the end and shouldn't have a care in the world. She thinks her strength will take her everywhere. A prime example of strength not being everything is Veronica eliminating Jodi. And because she thinks she is so strong everything else doesn't matter and doesn't affect her. She clearly stated that she didn't care if they threw the missions because she knew they wouldn't do anything to her. Coral and Beth are stronger than most of those girls and smarter. They also have a voice that everyone will listen to. They want girls like Casey around. Why was it such a blow to the team having Casey gone? It wasn't. That is why I dislike Ev. She is playing a PERSONAL game. The team just wanted the three girls that wouldn't take their **** and the three girls who could possibly endanger them gone.
Plus she is Fresh Meat. Most of those people are dumb.
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Just because you are strong doesn't mean you are going to be there in the end and shouldn't have a care in the world. She thinks her strength will take her everywhere. A prime example of strength not being everything is Veronica eliminating Jodi. And because she thinks she is so strong everything else doesn't matter and doesn't affect her. She clearly stated that she didn't care if they threw the missions because she knew they wouldn't do anything to her. Coral and Beth are stronger than most of those girls and smarter. They also have a voice that everyone will listen to. They want girls like Casey around. Why was it such a blow to the team having Casey gone? It wasn't. [B]That is why I dislike Ev. She is playing a PERSONAL game. [/B]The team just wanted the three girls that wouldn't take their **** and the three girls who could possibly endanger them gone.
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So you're saying that Coral has never wanted anyone gone for personal reasons on any of the challenges she's done?
[quote=ghnstry;16403]So you're saying that Coral has never wanted anyone gone for personal reasons on any of the challenges she's done?[/quote]
Oh no no no. Coral plays a personal game, but she doesn't do things to make the cards to fall in her deck. She wanted Julie gone on The Inferno after their fight, but she didn't sit their and plot who was going to get rid of her and when they need to get rid of her.
Have you seen The Gauntlet, Battle of the Seasons, Battle of the Sexes 2, or Fresh Meat. On all of those challenges she has gotten into fights, but she played the game fair and never purposely threw missions, plotted against players, or made a move to have things screw someone over. On Battle of the Sexes 2 most of the people left due to the majority rules. She even admitted than Tina and Rachel deserved to be there. Battle of the Seasons she was always in the Inner Circle and she didn't make any harsh moves.
My point was Ev just wants friends there and the people who she doesn't like gone. She plots against them. And I don't find that likeable.
Another example of strength not being everything is MJ vs Frank in GIII. I don't know I think Ev and Coral are pretty much the same. Neither Ev or Coral purposely threw missions. I wouldnt really say Ev plotted against a player she just rather them be gone like Matt (Gauntlet) and Julie/Trishelle (Inferno). Neither of them really went into great lengths to screw them over they just went with the majority. So overall Ev and Coral are the same IMO.
[quote=BlackChild;16405]Another example of strength not being everything is MJ vs Frank in GIII. I don't know I think Ev and Coral are pretty much the same. Neither Ev or Coral purposely threw missions. I wouldnt really say Ev plotted against a player she just rather them be gone like Matt (Gauntlet) and Julie/Trishelle (Inferno). Neither of them really went into great lengths to screw them over they just went with the majority. So overall Ev and Coral are the same IMO.[/quote]
I can see where you are coming from. Ev was just the person who put the idea into the guys' heads. I was surprised that Ev was a conspirer. I was a tad bit annoyed by her on the Inferno 3, but the Gauntlet 3 was when she got on my nerves. I knew Robin was like that, but not Ev.
Frank is a **** good player. I don't like him, but i have major respect for him. MJ didn't have the smarts though. It wasn't that Frank was stronger he just knew what he had to do.
Except for Julie being a bit crazy and rude, she was a great competitor. I felt bad for her because everybody tried to get rid of her and they did every time except for the Gauntlet 2.
I am interested in seeing Tonya interacting with Ev now. Tonya is very loyal, but she is friends with Ev. I wonder what will happen. Tonya is a threat to Ev.
She was? I thought it was Evan and CT. Didn't matter anyways. The only difference between Coral and Ev is that Coral is direct with her action and not into the sneaky stuff. Ev obv is not. I agree with everything you said afterwards cept the Frank bit. I like Frank...lol.
[quote=BlackChild;16407]She was? I thought it was Evan and CT. Didn't matter anyways. The only difference between Coral and Ev is that Coral is direct with her action and not into the sneaky stuff. Ev obv is not. I agree with everything you said afterwards cept the Frank bit. I like Frank...lol.[/quote]
No. She was talking with Robin and I believe Ryan and she was saying how they need to los those girls and that is when Coral walked in on them. Ev then went to go talk to Evan and CT about getting rid of Coral and Katie and Coral overheard that too. It was great to see Coral show emotion. This is when I knew I disliked Evan.
Coral being so forward about everything is what makes her my favorite and I think the best cxastmember. I love the more outspoken ones like Beth, Tonya, Katie, Coral. What I like the most isn't that they make good tv, but that they aren't liars or chicken. And I respect that.
I didn't like Frank. Everything had to be his way and I think he saw some things as attack. He was perfectly fine with the rule of everyone getting to pick who they want, but God forbid someone chose Jillian.
V1, or Bacchus, has anyone even heard anything about someone else going home or the format?
[quote=Dartagnan;16408]I didn't like Frank. Everything had to be his way and I think he saw some things as attack. He was perfectly fine with the rule of everyone getting to pick who they want, but God forbid someone chose Jillian. [/quote]
My slight dislike for Frank comes from other things, but I think he was justified in objecting to Jillian being thrown in a third time. They had stated at the beginning that if their system didn't work, they would change it. Plus, Mel was being a huge ****** about the whole thing. She seemed to have no respect or trust in her team, and that kind of attitude just ****** me off.
[quote=Moonpaw;16777]My slight dislike for Frank comes from other things, but I think he was justified in objecting to Jillian being thrown in a third time. They had stated at the beginning that if their system didn't work, they would change it. Plus, Mel was being a huge ****** about the whole thing. She seemed to have no respect or trust in her team, and that kind of attitude just ****** me off.[/quote]
I think he deserved to state why he believes she shouldn't be thrown in. But I mean he had no problem letting the person after Mel choose exactly who she wanted. I think he saw things as attack and if Jillian was going to go again he should have been okay with it. I mean she was better than everyone, except maybe Tori.
I think Mel was out of line saying that she was going to backstab them, but her being mad at them not going to let her have her choice was wrong. She new they were either going to send her in against her two bestfriends, or her other good friend Tori.
Frank just sees things as attack and that is what I don't like. I had no other problem with him, but that.
The problem is everyone seemed fit to send Jillian more than once mostly because the girls all thought they could beat her but in the end the ones who went against her couldn't. I think sometimes Frank can blow up a little too much but I think he had a right to stick up for her at least. I don't mind Frank actually, he can definitely be an ***** at times but there are times dare I say he is likable. On another note am I the only who wants to see how Cohutta fairs on this challenge?
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16781]The problem is everyone seemed fit to send Jillian more than once mostly because the girls all thought they could beat her but in the end the ones who went against her couldn't. I think sometimes Frank can blow up a little too much but I think he had a right to stick up for her at least. I don't mind Frank actually, he can definitely be an ***** at times but there are times dare I say he is likable. On another note am I the only who wants to see how Cohutta fairs on this challenge?[/quote]
See that is what I didn't get. Most girls couldn't beat her so why did Frank just blow up? It wouldn't have upset me if he rationally discussed why she shouldn't have gone in. He deserved to stand up for her and it is okay if he did, but sitting there whining doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing how he does, but I don't think he will do well so I already have an image and my mind and it isn't changing. I could be wrong though and he could be great.
I am interested in seeing how the girls will fair against Tonya, Rachel, and Ev? Anyone have any thoughts?
[quote=Dartagnan;16789]See that is what I didn't get. Most girls couldn't beat her so why did Frank just blow up? It wouldn't have upset me if he rationally discussed why she shouldn't have gone in. He deserved to stand up for her and it is okay if he did, but sitting there whining doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing how he does, but I don't think he will do well so I already have an image and my mind and it isn't changing. I could be wrong though and he could be great.
I am interested in seeing how the girls will fair against Tonya, Rachel, and Ev? Anyone have any thoughts?[/quote]
It was stress I guess there was alot of tension on that team between certain people but hey they still won by chance and he seemed to have chilled out by now. For some reason I picture Cohutta doing good unless he is targeted and sent home like most newbies seem too.
To be honest there are only a few girls that that can really take on Rachel or Ev whether you like them or not. Tonya seems to have gotten in better shape as well as she would be tough to beat. What I'd like to see is one of them three go against each other, as I've said before, whether it be in a face off or just a regular challenge it would be nice to see.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16792]It was stress I guess there was alot of tension on that team between certain people but hey they still won by chance and he seemed to have chilled out by now. For some reason I picture Cohutta doing good unless he is targeted and sent home like most newbies seem too.
To be honest there are only a few girls that that can really take on Rachel or Ev whether you like them or not. Tonya seems to have gotten in better shape as well as she would be tough to beat. What I'd like to see is one of them three go against each other, as I've said before, whether it be in a face off or just a regular challenge it would be nice to see.[/quote]
Yeah. The Rookie team never has much drama, but this Challenge really got to them. I thought it was funny when Tori was yelling at Frank in the poloppa.
I just don't think he will do good. He is a newbie and that automatically puts the target on your back. Plus, he is a really small guy. Sure he could have strength, but Derrick, Abe, Dan, or even Tyrie could easily take him out.
True. Rachel and Ev are monsters. tonya will be competition though. Me too. They could definetly take the match-up of the year award right out from under Coral/Beth.
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True. Rachel and Ev are monsters. tonya will be competition though. Me too. They could definetly take the match-up of the year award right out from under Coral/Beth.[/quote]
I'm really hoping Tonya will come through and do really well! :girl_dance:
[quote=Dartagnan;16797]Yeah. The Rookie team never has much drama, but this Challenge really got to them. I thought it was funny when Tori was yelling at Frank in the poloppa.
I just don't think he will do good. He is a newbie and that automatically puts the target on your back. Plus, he is a really small guy. Sure he could have strength, but Derrick, Abe, Dan, or even Tyrie could easily take him out.
True. Rachel and Ev are monsters. tonya will be competition though. Me too. They could definetly take the match-up of the year award right out from under Coral/Beth.[/quote]
haha Tori is actually quite funny when she blows up like that. The challenge got to everyone it seemed there was alot of stress and tension especially with the Trim the Fat thing on the Vets side.
That is a good point there are plenty of guys that could probably take him out easily but we never know honestly. He is new so we don't know what he can do yet. Maybe he'll go in there and prove himself but even that might not keep the target on his back if anything it might make it bigger.
Ev is a fierce competitor but she comes off as arrogant so it would be nice to see her humbled a bit. Ev and Tonya are coming in here friends so that could affect things if they both have hate for Rachel. But Rachel is definitely fierce too and I'm excited to see her on this challenge. Who knows though, they could destroy each other and Ashli wins it all lol
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;16800]I'm really hoping Tonya will come through and do really well! :girl_dance:[/quote]
Me too. I really love Tonya and I have always wanted to see her do good. She won Inferno 3, but it wasn't very memorable.
I would love for a final three of Rachel, Ev, and Tonya. That would be great.
Tonya has a possibility of winning if one of the the other two strong competitors take each other out.
[quote=mph922;16801]you must have not seen gauntlet 2 ;) haha.[/quote]
Actually it is on my iPod.:sarcastic_hand:
There wasn't anything special except for the Cara and Susie alliance and Kina trying to keep her spot. Other than that there wasn't very much drama on their side. Unless you consider Jo flipping her lid detrimental to her team.
[quote=Dartagnan;16804]Me too. I really love Tonya and I have always wanted to see her do good. She won Inferno 3, but it wasn't very memorable.
I would love for a final three of Rachel, Ev, and Tonya. That would be great.
Tonya has a possibility of winning if one of the the other two strong competitors take each other out.[/quote]
Yeah I'm thinking (hoping) she's been in the game long enough to play mentally, and physically, well, she's ripped!!
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16803]haha Tori is actually quite funny when she blows up like that. The challenge got to everyone it seemed there was alot of stress and tension especially with the Trim the Fat thing on the Vets side.
That is a good point there are plenty of guys that could probably take him out easily but we never know honestly. He is new so we don't know what he can do yet. Maybe he'll go in there and prove himself but even that might not keep the target on his back if anything it might make it bigger.
Ev is a fierce competitor but she comes off as arrogant so it would be nice to see her humbled a bit. Ev and Tonya are coming in here friends so that could affect things if they both have hate for Rachel. But Rachel is definitely fierce too and I'm excited to see her on this challenge. Who knows though, they could destroy each other and Ashli wins it all lol[/quote]
Despite most people I love Tori. Her rants are hilarious and she is a great competitor.
That is true. We don't know what he could do. The only bad thing is even if you prove yourself it makes hem want to get you out more so they will keep targeting you until you are eliminated.
She does need to be humbled. I can't wait for the day to come. At once there was a problem between Rachel and Tonya, but that was because she was under the influence of Tina and Veronica. They were actually friends before that. From what I have heard they are friends now as well. It is all going to come down to who plays the better game. And that is pretty much how it always is though.
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;16807]Yeah I'm thinking (hoping) she's been in the game long enough to play mentally, and physically, well, she's ripped!![/quote]
That is true. But the only thing is Rachel has just as much experience and she started when Tonya did. But Tonya has two more Challenges under her belt. She is the oldest castmember on here and hopefully strategy helps her get to the end.
Once someone deems you weak or a target it's hard to change their minds but I think those three have a chance to make it to the end. I'd like to see Tonya make it all the way and I wonder if there will be some Tonya hate on this challenge.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16810]Once someone deems you weak or a target it's hard to change their minds but I think those three have a chance to make it to the end. I'd like to see Tonya make it all the way and I wonder if there will be some Tonya hate on this challenge.[/quote]
Sadly when isn't there Tonya hate on the Challenges. I thought Inferno 3 would end it because most of the cast didn't even know her, but then came the I Hate Tonya Because Game. It was honestly so pathetic. I see Ashli, KellyAnne, and maybe Paula having drama with her.
It is okay though because they will be proved wrong.
I have to say if they don't make it to the final three I will be shocked. Maybe Johanna could slide past them, but other than that no one from what we have seen is stronger than them.
It never seems to end honestly and it seems they need to invent ways to hate her at times. There were times I use not to like her but she has grown on me over the years. Paula surprised me being involved with that game on Inferno 3 that seemed strange. Ashli and KellyAnne can be immature at times and I can definitely see them having a problem with her.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16816]It never seems to end honestly and it seems they need to invent ways to hate her at times. There were times I use not to like her but she has grown on me over the years. Paula surprised me being involved with that game on Inferno 3 that seemed strange. Ashli and KellyAnne can be immature at times and I can definitely see them having a problem with her.[/quote]
Me too. Paula got over being super depressed and she became nice and then she started hating on Tonya. I think hating on her is like a phase. The new girls do it just to be popular.
lol It is like a phase that most seem to go through but it'd be nice to see Tonya with friends around rather than mean girls or I hate Tonya games. If those three get along then they'd be a STRONG alliance but you still have to factor in the guys into that whole thing.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16819]lol It is like a phase that most seem to go through but it'd be nice to see Tonya with friends around rather than mean girls or I hate Tonya games. If those three get along then they'd be a STRONG alliance but you still have to factor in the guys into that whole thing.[/quote]
From what I know Tonya is great friends with Derrick and from what the Gauntlet showed us Rachel is great friends with Abe. Ev is friends with Kenny. So basically the girls are friends with the better and more popular males.
True. A mean phase nonetheless. Poor Tonya.
Yeah but Abe and Dunbar are set to destroy each other in a mad rage soon lol It is sometimes about who you know and get along with because if you're generally hated you might be screwed.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;16822]Yeah but Abe and Dunbar are set to destroy each other in a mad rage soon lol It is sometimes about who you know and get along with because if you're generally hated you might be screwed.[/quote]
Exactly. Abe may be violent, but at least he makes friends along the way. Dunbar is just a jerk and manages to make everyone hate him. Dunbar is going to cause his own defeat in my eyes. I fully expect some form of huge rage come out of Dunbar, caused by someone calling him dude or Dummybear. Someone is bound to get in a fight with him.
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