Real World/Road Rules: The Island - Spoilers

[quote=Dartagnan;20917]The whole point of this Challenge I think, was to keep the viewers guessing, which in turn would make you tune in more. It is much better kept a secret than having everyone know. I do not think anyone knows the winners except for Bacchus and V1. So don't think it is automatically a lie.[/quote] You think we actually know who won? Bacchus may know and he may think I know. Neither of us may know. Therein lies the beauty of speculation. The joy is in the search... Someone asked in a PM how we find out stuff. A lot of it is dull and boring, but here is the essence of it for me. Sometimes people (family/friends) who are close to a cast member will say or write something that is very, very innocuous, from which no one could gain the slightest bit of insight; but, when one adds the tiniest of fragments to information similarly obtained elsewhere, one can begin to see an emerging pattern. When one overlays that pattern onto the trailer, more and more things seem to make sense. I am, quite frankly, stunned that the trailer contains such a wealth of information. You all have done an excellent job of clue-finding, although finding a clue and discerning its significance may not come with equal ease. As I've written before, I applaud BMP's efforts to contain cast and crew alike from making spoiler discovery easy. The one pic that Bacchus posted early during the challenge was on of those "oops" moments, when someone was at the right place at the right time to "find" and copy that picture. Naturally, knowing where to look is important. Well before the challenge, we began assembling a list of likely crew members, based on past challenges. Watching their myspace, facebook and blog activity gave us the challenge location. Contacting myspace members who come from the coast of Panama where we suspected the challenge to be held, gave us more treasure as someone with relatives still there offered additional foundation. Airport sightings, so crucial in tracking The Amazing Race cast around the world, became important in verifying dates of travel and airports and airlines used. We occasionally got lucky, too with sighting of some (too few) upon their return to the USA. All the above refers to past information discovered... In the sense that past is prologue, we are likely mining the same hills and valleys today to learn more, but we need to keep a few secrets lest they be effectively employed by those at other sites (the essence of competition). What we never expected to have dropped in our laps was such an early trailer filled with such interesting individual frames of data. The first time time I watched it, I felt like I'd just uncovered the renown library at ancient Alexandria.

[QUOTE=Dartagnan;20932]That was really insightful. Thank you. I think specualtion is the best part. And the process you guys use to find this information out really is quite cool. And the trailer was quite shocking. With how secretive they kept this Challenge I figured that they wouldn't show a preview until it was time to start airing. Why do you think it was advertised now?[/QUOTE] It's only speculation because I've not had an opportunity to talk to friends inside MTV, but I think it was as rush job based on the great idea of someone important at MTV. (I hope she doesn't hate me for thinking this.) The best challenge interest they could have in one place at one time was the RW season finale. That is the right place to do it, if the challenge is indeed being rushed for a September showing. I understand the marketing concept, and what we are doing at vevmo should be a part of their viral marketing plan;, but, I just think the trailer execution was flawed. An A for the idea and timing, a C+ for content, and an A+ for giving a **** about your audience.

[QUOTE=producer88;20937]Wait I think I'm on to something here. The cast have to basically learn how to survive, by building huts, and getting food, and they will basically have to get the crates the plane drops, becuase they are full wilth supplies, meaning it is literally a survival game. Afterwards, we see the three or two guys wrestling, and I assume it's to be able to get a key. There's 8 people that need to get on a boat in the end, and get the to the other island. So that means on a challenge day everyone competes to be part of the top 8 and they will automatically get the keys. Now elimanation wise, the rest of the cast that don't have a key are at risk of losing. Am I at least close???[/QUOTE] We are all a little bit onto "something, " so keep at it. I suspect a few are also "on" something, but I didn't see a mandatory drug testing notice when I signed up here...

[QUOTE=renaldob;20985]you finally said it.[/QUOTE] Doug trained me.

[quote=elleyk5187;21221]you guys kill me. i thought i was so cool with finding a picture of the cast, or some of it at least. ah well i'll post it anyway! :) p.s. i didn't bother looking to see if anyone else has posted it. i'm toooo lazy. also...i facebook stalked ashli & she posted stuff on june 30 so that leads me to thiiiink they don't all leave on the same date but when they get kicked off. [/quote] Lazy does not win points here, sorry. We have a thread specifically about this picture. Bacchus posted info the early departees soon after they left, and with Dave, it was within minutes of him leaving Panama.

[QUOTE=elleyk5187;21234]oh shoot me now especially since it was like 3 am when i posted that. sorry, i was not looking for it & saw nothing about it. sorry i'm not perfect good god.[/QUOTE] bang :girl_dance:

[QUOTE=goldenwarrior63;21236]So you kill people and then do a girl dance? Right on :P[/QUOTE] That was as close as I could come to doing it in drag... ;) [SIZE="1"][I][B] Anyway, Bacchus is in the resurrection business, not me. That is in the purview of the gods from high atop Mt. Olympus.[/B][/I][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=tjhallow;21835]So when are we going to start to hear spoilers? I like surprises but suspense is killing me...[/QUOTE] There are already a great many spoilers in this and other challenge spoiler threads. The richest spoiler of all is the trailer for the challenge.