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Someone who should know tried to explain the rules to me. He started and stopped about three times and said, "Oh, ***k it, ask XXX. I was drunk most of the first two weeks." I'm going to be paying a lot of attention to TJ, as much as that will pain me.
[quote=V1man;27756]Someone who should know tried to explain the rules to me. He started and stopped about three times and said, "Oh, ***k it, ask XXX. I was drunk most of the first two weeks." I'm going to be paying a lot of attention to TJ, as much as that will pain me.[/quote] I love how on all these shows you can always guess how the rules will work against someone by how they are explained. Like with the whole Svetlana/Beth thing with the clip- it seemed like TJ kept pointing out how the flag needed to be unclipped not ripped off.
Sorry, I just re-read that and I am not sure it makes sense. I blame it on the nasty virus I have had for the last 5 days...I am delirious at this point, just ignore me. :)
[QUOTE=needsalife;27780]Sorry, I just re-read that and I am not sure it makes sense. I blame it on the nasty virus I have had for the last 5 days...I am delirious at this point, just ignore me. :)[/QUOTE] Done... But FYI -- the TJ audio regarding rules was added after the fact to make him and BMP look better. It was BS.
Does anyone know who is the most disliked player among castmates on this challenge?? I think it would be interesting to know what the cast all thinks of each other. I mean it would be cool to know... I remember back on road rules veiwers revenge when abe wanted veronica voted in because she has supposedly stabbed him in the back on multiple occcasions and I always thought they were friends. (never found out what she did) I just thought maybe v1 could tell us if there is a person that the rw/rr community collectively dislikes?
[QUOTE=jayman2582;27789]Does anyone know who is the most disliked player among castmates on this challenge?? I think it would be interesting to know what the cast all thinks of each other. I mean it would be cool to know... I remember back on road rules veiwers revenge when abe wanted veronica voted in because she has supposedly stabbed him in the back on multiple occcasions and I always thought they were friends. (never found out what she did) I just thought maybe v1 could tell us if there is a person that the rw/rr community collectively dislikes?[/QUOTE] As a result of the challenge: Dave
[quote=V1man;27800]As a result of the challenge: Dave[/quote] Figured. He has this cocky attitued that will get him ripped to shreds on a Challenge. Doesn't shock me. And I guess listenting to TJ, is important. I will listen closely.. until my ears begin to bleed.
[quote=V1man;27800]As a result of the challenge: Dave[/quote] That surprised me, I thought that only Dave's fight was only with Dan. I didn't realize that everyone was mad at him.
[quote=love_kenny;27803]That surprised me, I thought that only Dave's fight was only with Dan. I didn't realize that everyone was mad at him.[/quote] Well from what I understand, his story is that he left because he was "bored", but everyone else's story was that he left because of the fight... So I think there is a lack of respect for him for quitting the challenge and then lying about why he quit.
[quote=killer_tofu;27804]Well from what I understand, his story is that he left because he was "bored", but everyone else's story was that he left because of the fight... So I think there is a lack of respect for him for quitting the challenge and then lying about why he quit.[/quote] I got the same feeling as well KT, but a mixture with the hatred of his cockiness I guess. I guess we will have to wait and see, but if it isn't shown maybe V1 could explain later on.
[QUOTE=killer_tofu;27804]Well from what I understand, his story is that he left because he was "bored", but everyone else's story was that he left because of the fight... So I think there is a lack of respect for him for quitting the challenge and then lying about why he quit.[/QUOTE] That makes I guess, but I didn't think a week or so in Panama would be enough for the entire challenge community to hate him.
[quote=hpkhg45;27806]That makes I guess, but I didn't think a week or so in Panama would be enough for the entire challenge community to hate him.[/quote] Errrr, I always got this feeling that a lot of the cast members were just so annoyed with each other, that if one thing about somebody was dislikeable, they automatically became a target. Kinda like Ev and Coral. I mean we didn't see backstage stuff, but it looked like they were only fighting because Coral was stand-up and Ev was cocky. Dave has that cockiness that Vets immediately attack and go after.
It's a fickle group. By the time of the reunion show they could love him.
[QUOTE=killer_tofu;27804]Well from what I understand, his story is that he left because he was "bored", but everyone else's story was that he left because of the fight... So I think there is a lack of respect for him for quitting the challenge and then lying about why he quit.[/QUOTE] Maybe he was bored. We'll never know the truth of it. There was an altercation between Dan and Dave. I don't believe that Dave suddenly left as a result of that incident, but I do believe that it was a contributing factor to how he felt about being there. Perhaps the "fight" became the catalyst to actualize his desire to leave. We'll have to see how it plays out -- or rather how the editors have it play out. What I do know is that the rest of the cast was furious with him. They were insulted. He took up a space that one of their friends could have occupied. Imagine how someone like Issac (Sydney), who had openly said he wanted to do a challenge, must have felt upon learning that Dave quit. Sad for all involved.
[quote=V1man;27809]Maybe he was bored. We'll never know the truth of it. There was an altercation between Dan and Dave. I don't believe that Dave suddenly left as a result of that incident, but I do believe that it was a contributing factor to how he felt about being there. Perhaps the "fight" became the catalyst to actualize his desire to leave. We'll have to see how it plays out -- or rather how the editors have it play out. What I do know is that the rest of the cast was furious with him. They were insulted. He took up a space that one of their friends could have occupied. Imagine how someone like Issac (Sydney), who had openly said he wanted to do a challenge, must have felt upon learning that Dave quit. Sad for all involved.[/quote] That seems like a stretch from him to say he was bored but yeah I agree we probably won't know the truth of it. Issac on a challenge? Classic. No offense to Dave but having Issac on would have been better. It was a small challenge and there seemed to be people wanting to get on there, so I understand how it could be insulting.
[quote=V1man;27809]Maybe he was bored. We'll never know the truth of it. There was an altercation between Dan and Dave. I don't believe that Dave suddenly left as a result of that incident, but I do believe that it was a contributing factor to how he felt about being there. Perhaps the "fight" became the catalyst to actualize his desire to leave. We'll have to see how it plays out -- or rather how the editors have it play out. What I do know is that the rest of the cast was furious with him. They were insulted. He took up a space that one of their friends could have occupied. Imagine how someone like Issac (Sydney), who had openly said he wanted to do a challenge, must have felt upon learning that Dave quit. Sad for all involved.[/quote] Sad for a lot of fans as well, who would rather have seen Isaac. It makes me feel very bad. Over at TWOP, I was snooping, and one of the poster's said that they heard Rachel tried hard to be nice and get away from the Mean Girl drama.
[QUOTE=Dartagnan;27814]Sad for a lot of fans as well, who would rather have seen Isaac. It makes me feel very bad. Over at TWOP, I was snooping, and one of the poster's said that they heard Rachel tried hard to be nice and get away from the Mean Girl drama.[/QUOTE] sorry for not knowing this but what is TWOP? and for v1...If they all were furious with dave for leaving.. what about Ashli and Abram who I thought i read also left voluntarily?? was there animosity thrown their way also?
[quote=jayman2582;27815]sorry for not knowing this but what is TWOP? and for v1...If they all were furious with dave for leaving.. what about Ashli and Abram who I thought i read also left voluntarily?? was there animosity thrown their way also?[/quote] TWOP is another forum board. I wouldn't know but this is my opinion. Supposedly, Abram left due to multiple bee stings, as was seen on the trailers. It would be a legitamite reason, if it wasn't a cover-up, as V1 has been told by some people. Maybe it isn't as upsetting that it was supposed to be something more medical, as to why he left. Ashli, although we don't know exactly why she left, most likely would have left due to the conditions. That is a total guess. Dave is telling people he was bored and had other obligations, so quitting because he was "bored" which seems highly unlikely, or quitting because you made other plans which you should have cancelled, is much more upsetting than the other two. But this is assuming that the other two aren't suffering the same dislike that Dave did.
[quote=Dartagnan;27816]TWOP is another forum board. [/quote] ...Which is far inferior to Vevmo in every way! Don't you dare venture over there! :)
[quote=killer_tofu;27817]...Which is far inferior to Vevmo in every way! Don't you dare venture over there! :)[/quote] Isn't every other forum inferior to Vevmo? Sorry, gloating took over. Also, does anyone have an opinion as to why Jenn and Robin were both making dramatic speeches? Maybe they get one last chance to save themselves, or they have to say who they voted for and why?
[QUOTE=jayman2582;27815]sorry for not knowing this but what is TWOP? and for v1...If they all were furious with dave for leaving.. what about Ashli and Abram who I thought i read also left voluntarily?? was there animosity thrown their way also?[/QUOTE] There are at least two ways to leave 1) You quit and forfeit your appearance fee, or 2) You do not win in the three-person competition and you tell the jury you think it's your time to go. Dave is in category one and Ashli and Abram are in category two. Abram's departure was for an unforeseen reason in his opinion and while it would have pained me in similar circumstances, I would have made the same choice he did. When we see the episode, we can discuss it further. The cast viewpoint likely leans toward Abram. [QUOTE=Dartagnan;27814] Over at TWOP, I was snooping, and one of the poster's said that they heard Rachel tried hard to be nice and get away from the Mean Girl drama.[/QUOTE] I know the poster at that site as does Bacchus. He is a producer who is well connected. Some of his info makes its way to vevmo.
[quote=V1man;27821]There are at least two ways to leave 1) You quit and forfeit your appearance fee, or 2) You do not win in the three-person competition and you tell the jury you think it's your time to go. Dave is in category one and Ashli and Abram are in category two. Abram's departure was for an unforeseen reason in his opinion and while it would have pained me in similar circumstances, I would have made the same choice he did. When we see the episode, we can discuss it further. The cast viewpoint likely leans toward Abram. I know the poster at that site as does Bacchus. He is a producer who is well connected. Some of his info makes its way to vevmo.[/quote] Tell the jury you want to leave?!?!?! Wow, I wonder what happens if both say they don't want to leave. These rules are already complicating, I think I need to listen to TJ haha. Abram doesn't seem like one to leave, even if he has some other reason. He seems so competitive that he would work through it.
[QUOTE=Dartagnan;27824]Tell the jury you want to leave?!?!?! Wow, I wonder what happens if both say they don't want to leave. These rules are already complicating, I think I need to listen to TJ haha. Abram doesn't seem like one to leave, even if he has some other reason. He seems so competitive that he would work through it.[/QUOTE] Someone wanting or offering to leave would be a rare event, so don't over think things. I sense a tendency in you to do that. Sometimes the issues are not that complicated. As for Abram, the reason has absolutely nothing to do with the challenge or the cast. Just leave it alone for now or you will look silly later. Trust me on this one, please.
[quote=V1man;27828]Someone wanting or offering to leave would be a rare event, so don't over think things. I sense a tendency in you to do that. Sometimes the issues are not that complicated. As for Abram, the reason has absolutely nothing to do with the challenge or the cast. Just leave it alone for now or you will look silly later. Trust me on this one, please.[/quote] And its all getting very interesting.
[quote=V1man;27828]Someone wanting or offering to leave would be a rare event, so don't over think things. I sense a tendency in you to do that. Sometimes the issues are not that complicated. As for Abram, the reason has absolutely nothing to do with the challenge or the cast. Just leave it alone for now or you will look silly later. Trust me on this one, please.[/quote] Yeah. I overthink everything. But I am a good student somehow? :mega_shok: I figured it would be rare. I will trust you on the Abram situation. Everything is getting more interesting by the second. One week left.
[quote=V1man;27821]There are at least two ways to leave 1) You quit and forfeit your appearance fee, or 2) You do not win in the three-person competition and you tell the jury you think it's your time to go. Dave is in category one and Ashli and Abram are in category two. Abram's departure was for an unforeseen reason in his opinion and while it would have pained me in similar circumstances, I would have made the same choice he did. When we see the episode, we can discuss it further. The cast viewpoint likely leans toward Abram.[/quote] man, I love this board anyways, so what I'm thinking is abrams departure is either medical or something that has happened back home ala tyrie in G3... let me know if I'm reading too much into this v1.. but those are the only two logical reasons that make sense and since you think the cast viewpoint likely leans towards abram it makes me think it is some sort of big deal... i'm more than likely way off.... but thats my 2 cents
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[quote=Dartagnan;27818]Isn't every other forum inferior to Vevmo? Sorry, gloating took over. [/quote] [I]Especially [/I]SR, right? ;)
[QUOTE=jayman2582;27838]man, I love this board anyways, so what I'm thinking is abrams departure is either medical or something that has happened back home ala tyrie in G3... let me know if I'm reading too much into this v1.. but those are the only two logical reasons that make sense and since you think the cast viewpoint likely leans towards abram it makes me think it is some sort of big deal... i'm more than likely way off.... but thats my 2 cents[/QUOTE] Just to bring you up to date, there is a considerable body of opinion from the G3 cast suggesting that Tyrie's departure from Mexico was not driven by a medical issue with his GF in Florida.
[quote=V1man;27842]Just to bring you up to date, there is a considerable body of opinion from the G3 cast suggesting that Tyrie's departure from Mexico was not driven by a medical issue with his GF in Florida.[/quote] So he lied?? and kept his appearence fee?? now that is worse than what dave did in my book..well... at least in the same vicinity. That is pure *************...that's johnny rottenesque! maybe that's why he leaves early on again this challenge. Nobody trusts him!
[QUOTE=jayman2582;27843]So he lied?? and kept his appearence fee?? now that is worse than what dave did in my book..well... at least in the same vicinity. That is pure *************...that's johnny rottenesque! maybe that's why he leaves early on again this challenge. Nobody trusts him![/QUOTE] Where have you been? That G3 news is about a year old. Tyrie does not leave early on this challenge, well at least not early by his own choice. He is actually about the sixth one to leave Panama.

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