The Duel 2: Ep. 1 - Discussion

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LOL....we are all arguing, like if we know CT and Diem. I'm with Brooke on this one, I'm neutral. Both sides are correct, and wrong. Relationships, especially a 5 year old one, are very difficult to "understand." The only thing I can say is, someone needs to slam Shavouns face to the ground, and I hope that someone is Anessa. She knew she had sex, and lied about it. Then on top of that, she lied about not knowing CT, and Diem situation.
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MPH....we must have been watching two different shows. This was one of the best RW/RR episodes EVER.....it actually made me buy the season from iTunes LOL. This challenge will be EPIC!!!!!
[QUOTE=producer88;58741]MPH....we must have been watching two different shows. This was one of the best RW/RR episodes EVER.....it actually made me buy the season from iTunes LOL. This challenge will be EPIC!!!!![/QUOTE] Oh don't get me wrong, I still look forward greatly to the rest of the challenge. I am definitely not basing my opinion of the whole thing on this particular episode, I just thought it was okay. The fight was crazy and entertaining but overall I just found myself not caring enough about anyone involved. I don't care for CT or Adam either way, and both were in the wrong, so I didn't find myself really invested in any of it. Either way, I am still looking forward to the remainder of the challenge. :) For the record, after I re-read my previous post, I hope I don't come off as a Negative Nancy or a Bitter Betty. I just realized it reads like it's all complaints, but I swear I'm not. Heh.
BMP should really work on not revealing anything on these teasers. On the teaser after the episode I easily pointed out someone running in the final mission and knew who it was.
[quote=producer88;58741]MPH....we must have been watching two different shows. This was one of the best RW/RR episodes EVER.....it actually made me buy the season from iTunes LOL. This challenge will be EPIC!!!!![/quote] I kinda agree with MPH. I thought the episode was a little to rushed. There was also a commercial every 5 minutes. My favorite part of these shows are the challenges, and the challenge was very quick. I think they should have a seperate episode for the cast moving into the house. I hope now that the cast has settled in, the episodes won't be as rushed.
[quote=blanky667;58744]BMP should really work on not revealing anything on these teasers. On the teaser after the episode I easily pointed out someone running in the final mission and knew who it was.[/quote] And you can clearly see Aneesa making out with someone in one of the trailers.
[quote=ballinbroken;58755]And you can clearly see Aneesa making out with someone in one of the trailers.[/quote] That would be Rachel.
[QUOTE=Dartagnan;58756]That would be Rachel.[/QUOTE] It looks like Rachel will be busy on this challenge. ;)
[quote=V1man;58757]It looks like Rachel will be busy on this challenge. ;)[/quote] Definitely seems like she goes around. ;) But I like Rachel.
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It seems that the girls are going to have more "luck" than the guys this time around.
[quote=faceless;58696]The whole CT vs Diem thing isn't something easy to decide. Guys will agree with CT while girls will agree with Diem. Thats just the way it is. Girls and guys handle stuff differently. I can't believe how many people were trying to calm CT down, that was insane, he's a monster in ways of being big and scary and a monster as being a pretty awful person. I still don't know why I sometimes root for him when he's on challenges. I can't wait for the rest of the season, in the "coming up on the duel" thing at the end of the episode, Landon was saying to Evan "I'm not afraid of your power trip", wonder what that means, cause I want Landon to beat Evan! HAHA[/quote] I am a girl and I actually am of the opinion that CT could hook up because he and Diem had broken up for a while. I understand that it can be painful to see your ex hook up with someone or date someone new. But it's just something you have to deal with when you aren't together with that person anymore, and when you don't plan on getting back with that person for several years. Unfortunately for Diem, in the situation they were in, she had to be in close quarters with her ex and the girl he hooked up with for potentially a month or so. But CT ended up going, so she didn't have to see him hook up anymore. I'm sure she didn't want things to turn out the way they did, though. I am interested in what Landon was talking about as well, but I want to see it unfold in the show. I wouldn't mind him getting out of cahoots with Evan, but Evan seems to be running things, so it could make it tough for him to stay.
[QUOTE=RW561015;58784]I am a girl and I actually am of the opinion that CT could hook up because he and Diem had broken up for a while. I understand that it can be painful to see your ex hook up with someone or date someone new. But it's just something you have to deal with when you aren't together with that person anymore, and when you don't plan on getting back with that person for several years. Unfortunately for Diem, in the situation they were in, she had to be in close quarters with her ex and the girl he hooked up with for potentially a month or so. But CT ended up going, so she didn't have to see him hook up anymore. I'm sure she didn't want things to turn out the way they did, though. I am interested in what Landon was talking about as well, but I want to see it unfold in the show. I wouldn't mind him getting out of cahoots with Evan, but Evan seems to be running things, so it could make it tough for him to stay.[/QUOTE] Would it make a difference to you if you knew that there was an understanding between Diem and CT that he would behave himself and they would be supportive of each other during taping of the show? A partial answer to your interest in Landon/Evan was added late last night in the spoiler thread.
This episode was pretty good but it felt like it went to a commercial break every 4 to 5 minutes. :( Some thoughts..... Robin looks really, really good. She looks like she's lost a TON of weight. I was really glad that Ryan won the Duel. I didn't think picking Nick was "shady" or unfair at all. He picked Nick knowing that he could beat him, whether or not his injury had something to do with it is inconsequential, this is a game and Ryan picked the person he knew he could win against. Speaking of Ryan it cracked me up that he was hooking up with Davis cause it immediatly reminded me of The Gauntlet 3 after Tyler left and he told someone (I think maybe it was Robin???) that he wasn't attracted to Tyler but if Davis was there he'd totally go for it, haha. The CT/Adam/Shauvon/Diem drama was a great opener to this challenge. I actually saw and could understand everyone's side of the story.
[quote=Jayden;58805] I was really glad that Ryan won the Duel. I didn't think picking Nick was "shady" or unfair at all. He picked Nick knowing that he could beat him, whether or not his injury had something to do with it is inconsequential, this is a game and Ryan picked the person he knew he could win against. [/quote] Agreed on not being shady...but I don't know if a healthy Nick would have lost to Ryan...Nick looks pretty buff, from what I've seen.
[QUOTE=V1man;58757]It looks like Rachel will be busy on this challenge. ;)[/QUOTE]So I guess this is what sparks the fight between Rachel and Jenn. Jenn probably felt hurt about it. Wait is there a fight between them? Someone said that it was so.
[quote=V1man;58793]Would it make a difference to you if you knew that there was an understanding between Diem and CT that he would behave himself and they would be supportive of each other during taping of the show? A partial answer to your interest in Landon/Evan was added late last night in the spoiler thread.[/quote] Well, if CT and Diem had that agreement, then I would agree it wasn't nice of him to go against it. But I do think it's possible Diem would have reacted similarly if they had not made an agreement. She kept bringing up the five year thing and it was looking like it was unrealistic of her to expect CT to not move on in the meantime. I think I will try and leave the Landon and Evan thing until it comes up on the show. It could be one of the bigger dramas for all I know. I have already read a lot of spoilers concerning the duels and the CT/Adam thing while the show was filming since I was missing the challenges and wanted to know what was going on. And I accidently spoiled the winners. But I think I've forgotten a lot of the duel match ups, though, so that will make things kind of fresh for me. I felt bad for Nick having to compete with a broken hand, but Ryan used a strategy there and it worked. Others have done the same in the past. I still would have preferred for Nick to win, though.
I thought CT kept bringing up the 5 year thing as well?
My internet is very bad, and it's really slow to watch on MTV. Can someone help me please?
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[quote=pmfg10;58828]My internet is very bad, and it's really slow to watch on MTV. Can someone help me please?[/quote] Help you with what?
You guys need to just agree to disagree about the whole Diem/CT/Shauvon situation. Everyone's argument is simply an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. No one is wrong, and everyone would feel different about certain things - it's pointless to try and "prove a point".
[QUOTE=Famous.;58845]You guys need to just agree to disagree about the whole Diem/CT/Shauvon situation. Everyone's argument is simply an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. No one is wrong, and everyone would feel different about certain things - it's pointless to try and "prove a point".[/QUOTE] Well said Famous ;)
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;58830]Help you with what?[/quote] Some other website with the video, or to make the download of the episode. I'm really excited about this show.
[QUOTE=Famous.;58845]You guys need to just agree to disagree about the whole Diem/CT/Shauvon situation. Everyone's argument is simply an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. No one is wrong, and everyone would feel different about certain things - it's pointless to try and "prove a point".[/QUOTE] Actually there are some better informed than others, but you are new here, so you would not know that. To repeat something from another thread, vevmo management was aware of the incident the very day it happened and was completely on top of the replacements before they ever arrived in NZ. The cast and crew also have given us their perspective of events as recently as two days ago in lengthy telephone conversations. Your challenge as a reader is to discover how to separate fact from opinion, supposition, and fanatical posturing.
[quote=molds13;58806]Agreed on not being shady...but I don't know if a healthy Nick would have lost to Ryan...Nick looks pretty buff, from what I've seen.[/quote] Ep 1 - from Spain. Finally watched online, and it was worth the stretch. My "take" From what was shown involving CT/Adam/Diem/Shavon - CT jumped the gun on Adam and basically accused him of something he may not have done this time. Adam reacted in a way to agitate the situation, but after everything, he was just fed up. I'll go on record and break out the blame in the following CT - 70%, Adam - 20%, the cast - 10% (they could have prevented escalation & meddling). 3 wrongs never made a right. I will say this, CT's business with anyone is just that, his own - not Diem's, and not the rest of the meddling cast. Diem overreacted, plain & simple, same as the aftershow. CT was dead on in relation to her regardless of whether something happened or not. The challenge - I liked the first part, and didn't like the 2nd part of it. Politics, but overall it was a good 1st challenge, better than some in the past. Evan being granted or handed a victory was just dumb in my opinion. Evan has a history of forming alliances, and for those who are not in the know, they should have went for him and spared MJ. Surprizingly, Robin seems to be isolated from Evan and company, so her winning was a good move by the females that are not a part of the global alliance. The duel selection - Ryan made the 1 play he had to, stay in the game. Unfortunately it involved taking out someone who actually seemed to be pretty smart about trying to counter the alliance. Nick was a dead duck regardless because his injury was public and anyone going in would have challenged him. Shavon - I'm glad she picked Aneesa over anyone else there. Shavon has proven from this episode and the aftershow to be nothing more but an attention seeking loudmouth. Furthermore, I am esp pleased with the duel she selected. I dont think she has a chance in hell at beating Aneesa in this duel and hope Aneesa tosses her around like the ragdoll she is. Yeah, a bonehead move in my opinion, she could have easily went for someone like Paula or Diem if she was sincere in trying to break alliances. I look forward to next week. As for the aftershow. In short, CT made valid points and strong ones. He admitted fault where appropriate, and as far as him and Diem, he is 100% right imo. Diem should just let it go. If she wants him, be woman enough to say it. Evan was there because I believe him/Adam/Mark/and others did hatch a plan to agitate CT, but it unexpectantly came earlier than they plan. Shavon just confirmed my opinion of her as stated above!
Wow, 26 pages already. What was up with that opening sequence? It looked like something out of a low budget Nollywood movie. :D
[QUOTE=ghostofsparta;58911]Wow, 26 pages already. What was up with that opening sequence? It looked like something out of a low budget Nollywood movie. :D[/QUOTE] Actually there are several display options available. I have only six pages (more comments per page). Nollywood? :good:
[quote=Darock1713;58910]Ep 1 - from Spain. Finally watched online, and it was worth the stretch. My "take" From what was shown involving CT/Adam/Diem/Shavon - CT jumped the gun on Adam and basically accused him of something he may not have done this time. Adam reacted in a way to agitate the situation, but after everything, he was just fed up. I'll go on record and break out the blame in the following CT - 70%, Adam - 20%, the cast - 10% (they could have prevented escalation & meddling). 3 wrongs never made a right. I will say this, CT's business with anyone is just that, his own - not Diem's, and not the rest of the meddling cast. Diem overreacted, plain & simple, same as the aftershow. CT was dead on in relation to her regardless of whether something happened or not. The challenge - I liked the first part, and didn't like the 2nd part of it. Politics, but overall it was a good 1st challenge, better than some in the past. Evan being granted or handed a victory was just dumb in my opinion. Evan has a history of forming alliances, and for those who are not in the know, they should have went for him and spared MJ. Surprizingly, Robin seems to be isolated from Evan and company, so her winning was a good move by the females that are not a part of the global alliance. The duel selection - Ryan made the 1 play he had to, stay in the game. Unfortunately it involved taking out someone who actually seemed to be pretty smart about trying to counter the alliance. Nick was a dead duck regardless because his injury was public and anyone going in would have challenged him. Shavon - I'm glad she picked Aneesa over anyone else there. Shavon has proven from this episode and the aftershow to be nothing more but an attention seeking loudmouth. Furthermore, I am esp pleased with the duel she selected. I dont think she has a chance in hell at beating Aneesa in this duel and hope Aneesa tosses her around like the ragdoll she is. Yeah, a bonehead move in my opinion, she could have easily went for someone like Paula or Diem if she was sincere in trying to break alliances. I look forward to next week. As for the aftershow. In short, CT made valid points and strong ones. He admitted fault where appropriate, and as far as him and Diem, he is 100% right imo. Diem should just let it go. If she wants him, be woman enough to say it. Evan was there because I believe him/Adam/Mark/and others did hatch a plan to agitate CT, but it unexpectantly came earlier than they plan. Shavon just confirmed my opinion of her as stated above![/quote] Great points! The second half of the challenge was disappointing. I think I actually switched channels. I agree that CT came out looking the best during the aftershow, "frankenbiting" and all. Adam held his own as well and Mark did a great job! Will Evan be on every aftershow and why was Brooke there?
[quote=eggs78;58925]Will Evan be on every aftershow and why was Brooke there?[/quote] I hope not, and I have a feeling they bring on people such as Brooke and Evan just to enlighten us on some parts that maybe weren't shown and offer their opinions.
[QUOTE=molds13;58928]I hope not, and I have a feeling they bring on people such as Brooke and Evan just to enlighten us on some parts that maybe weren't shown and offer their opinions.[/QUOTE] Mark Long is on facebook. You all can ask him directly about the Aftershow. (He loves fans but will hate me for this. ;) )
They should do the show like I Love Money... that show brings a lot of drama in the way they construct the eliminations and also RW challenge should have 1 winner... makes the alliances crazy when it gets down to the final few people, you have to start turning against people you're cool with 1st episode was real good though

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