and yes it does make me feel better..I'm glad I got it off my chest..that's obviously what the point of big brother is..and all other reality tv..for people to watch it talk about it and form opinions.
but everyone hardly ever ends up doing that..otherwise kris wouldn't have been voted out..etc..see how much they boo as soon as davina says noirins name but not for marcus..i think noirin will go because people want to split them apart like they did with kenny and karly..
I haven't watched any of BBUK but I can't fathom what Noirin has done to deserve this wrath. I watched RR Australia faithfully and she's a smart engaging and entertaining girl.
And Isaac...how can you not love him. He should be doing standup he's so entertaining and wonderfully offbeat.
/end gush
[COLOR=purple]Ive been watching big brother and this whole Noirin thing and I jus fink people are being way to harsh on her.....firstly, she was put in a position that none of the other housmates were...the others were allowed to form friendships but wen it came to noirin they ALL wanted to take it further...secondly, she admits that she fancied siavash BUT is in love with isaac...before going into the house she was under the impression that her and isaac were NOT together...that was his choice....so wen she went in, met a guy and fancied him she was jus enjoying her time...then BB being quite cruel put isaac in...THE PERSON SHE LOVES..so what do you expect????[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=purple]Leave the poor girl alone......if she lied she would have been cussed and now shes telling the truth shes still getting cussed.....[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=purple]the only criticism i have of her is she needs to express herself more clearly as her comments or lack of can be misleading.....[/COLOR]
[quote=KayKay;106038]yea Im from england......[/quote]
KayKay, I agree with everything that you said above. It is quite unfortunate that the audience reacted in such an extreme manner.
Especially because this is a gameshow and not an accurate assessment of reality.
What is more disconcerting is that if she was a guy, she'd be a hero (and master game player) for her flirtatious ways...
Such is the still persistent double standard.
I don't agree that if it was a guy he would be lauded for doing what Noirin has done. Kris certainly didn't get a very good reception and we don't even know if his relationship with Sophie/dogface is fake or not. I think if anyone had acted in the way Noirin had then they wouldn't go down well. Not even the Isaac thing to begin with but the way she told everyone that she fancied Tom more than Siavash but still pursued the relationship with Siavash. She then dealt with Isaac entering the house in such a bad way, yes she may have realised when Isaac came in that she was still in love with him but it was obvious that Siavash was feeling put out by the whole thing and she didn't even give him the time of day never mind an explanation.
I totally agree Meium, I have watched all of BB uk, and Noirin's behaviour was an absolute disgrace. She was interviewed following her eviction and sheno remorse nor any regrets about how she had hurt Siavash. You are right when you say she didn't even try and explain to Siavash her actions. He was saying to others thats what hurt the most that she didn't even give him 5 minutes to explain. She is the type of person who gives women a bad name. As for the Isaac one, I think just aswell for him he plans to go back to USA, as he is one arrogant individual, and I reckon going on the response to his interviews following his departure he is disliked as much as Noirin. they are very well suited.
[QUOTE=eiramenna;106198]She was interviewed following her eviction and sheno remorse nor any regrets about how she had hurt Siavash. [/quote]
What is he, five? He met a girl on a gameshow (which is based on deception and financial gain) and all of a sudden he is heart broken?
[quote]You are right when you say she didn't even try and explain to Siavash her actions. He was saying to others thats what hurt the most that she didn't even give him 5 minutes to explain.[/quote]
Why does she have to explain herself to him? Did I miss the part where they exchanged wedding vows?
I do remember where Siavash said he did not want to talk to Noirin concerning the situation about three hours after Isaac's arrival...
[quote]As for the Isaac one, I think just aswell for him he plans to go back to USA, as he is one arrogant individual, and I reckon going on the response to his interviews following his departure he is disliked as much as Noirin.[/QUOTE]
Isaac put on the show that Big Brother wanted and that is what you saw. He plays an entirely different [I]character[/I] on MTV.
The reality is, [B]this show is not reality[/B] and everyone plays their part (Isaac of course being the villain.)
Some of us can separate the[I] character[/I] from the person, some of us can not.
It doesn't sound to me that you have actually watched all of BB from the start, if you had, then I am sure your opinion would be different.
Noirin's behaviour was embarrassing to say the least, cringeworthy actually.
She has been interviewed several times since leaving the show and has shown her true colours. As has her 'boyfriend of the moment' Isaac, also known now as noddy!!
Both are arrogant, egotistical, self centred, attention seeking wannabees.The man thinks he is hilarious when all he does is embarrass himself.Maybe on BB he was playing the villain, but on the follow up shows he appeared to be playing the village idiot, very successfully I may say.
And I think we all know Siavash is a grown man, but I would think any decent human being would at least feel bad about the awkwardness of the whole situation. But then again that rules Noirin out.
Lets hope they are both on their way to USA. sooner the better.
Eiramenna, you have your opinion of Noirin. One that is not shared by the majority here or by the people who actually know her (such as cast mates from The Real World Sydney.) While you are free to have an opinion, you need to separate the human being from the reality game show.
I know it is hard, but give it a try.
Say it with me, "It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show..."
[QUOTE]Lets hope they are both on their way to USA. sooner the better.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Your little island is so small I am sure you'd run into them everywhere if they stayed and it would surely ruin your life...
[quote=Bacchus;106206]Eiramenna, you have your opinion of Noirin. One that is not shared by the majority here or by the people who actually know her. While you are free to have an opinion, you need to separate the human being from the reality game show.
I know it is hard, but give it a try.
Say it with me, "It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show..."[/quote]
I'm guessing by your reply that you must know Noirin personally? You must know the opinions of people who know her?
Yes I do have my own opinion, and one that is shared by most UK BB viewers, you need to check Youtube (whilst I don't agree with some of the extreme views on there) and BB chat forums. I think you will be surprised at the opinion of the majority. You will be hard pressed to find any positive comments.
Of course I agree it is a reality show but no one can be in 'character' 24/7.
I don't know how American reality TV shows are produced but I have seen BB USA which seems fake, scripted and nothing like BB UK
We have live feeds from the show that are not shown in the 1 hour show.
We also as I have previously said have lots of post show interviews, where the contestants have the opportunity to answer the critics ( viewers included, and not scripted, but live shows) this is where both of them showed their true colours.
BB and UK is well rid of both of them and on that note I will end this conversation.
[QUOTE=eiramenna;106210]I think you will be surprised at the opinion of the majority.[/quote]
Just because an opinion is held by a majority, does not make it correct or binding.
[quote]We have live feeds from the show that are not shown in the 1 hour show.[/quote]
We have 24/7 live feeds on the internet so we know all about that...
[quote]BB and UK is well rid of both of them and on that note I will end this conversation.[/QUOTE]
It sounds like your life will be better now. God only knows the **** you had to endure (well, until that next person you don't like on a reality television show spitefully begins attacking you and destroying your every waking moment.)
Thanks for stopping by eiramenna. Normally we just have randoms posting on these forums, but to have the official spokesperson for the entire United Kingdom has been a real treat indeed!
ooohhhhhh children, children...hee hee jus joking.....yea ur rite it is jus an opinion...but what people need to understand is that noirin was maliciously put into a situation that not many people would...BB controlled and executed that very very well...
Jus fink back at all the times where u would say 'wouldnt it be funny if A and B were in the same room, what would I do?' but u know that its nearly impossible for that situation to arise...wel because of the control that BB had they were able to create that senario quite easily....
As I said before Im not blowing Noirins trumpet, as she could have handled the situation better, BUT she handled it the best she fort she could.....come to fink of it there probably is no correct way to handle the situation as ultimately somebody was gonna be portrayed as the victim, eg if she continued chillin wiv siavash then Isaac would have been the victim.
You cant base an opinion of a person on one event that u have witnessed......esp from a TV programme
[quote=Bacchus;106206]Eiramenna, you have your opinion of Noirin. One that is not shared by the majority here or by the people who actually know her (such as cast mates from The Real World Sydney.) While you are free to have an opinion, you need to separate the human being from the reality game show.
I know it is hard, but give it a try.
Say it with me, "It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show. It is just a reality show..."
I agree. Your little island is so small I am sure you'd run into them everywhere if they stayed and it would surely ruin your life...[/quote]
Ok it is veeerrry early here in the uk but i am soo mad at some of the S**T that is being posted here about noirin and isaac that i have just had to register to get my opinion out there let me start by saying that BY NO MEANS is noirin hated by EVERYONE IN THE UK!!!! i am british and I LOVE HER and i love isaac he's a gem. you wouldn't believe the type of vicious and malicious women there are that hate noirin simply because she has had men on that show falling all over the place in love with her! she is a beautyful girl and the ugly wenches are killing themselves with jealous envy at the kind of feminine intoxicating power she seems to have over them we are all wondering WOW what does she have???? some like me do it with admiration others out of jealousy, dont listen to those that say she treated people badly! it's not true! i'm really annoyed by the garbage people have been spewing about them! by the way isaac is a fantastic boyfriend, very protective, considerate and kind to noirin when people in the house (jealous female named bea) have tried to attack noirin isaac has been there to put her in her place he's a cool guy in my oppinion and i have nothing but respect for him. To give you an update on the two of them if you didn't already know they are back together! yay! isaac said he is going to turn noirin into an american house wife awwww... there was a scene when they were in the bathroom together and noirin was sitting on isaacs lap he looked at her and said "i have never met a more beautyful person on the planet in my life" noirin smiled sweetly then hugged him and said "i love you baby" and isaac said "i love you too... and i'm sorry you had to come here not remembering that ..or not KNOWING IT" noirin smiled and said "well i know now and i feel as if ive already won" swweet aww love them can you tell? ha ha i think someone asked what her reaction was to seeing isaac when he first came in, well at first she didn't know it was him because he was disguised as a delivery person and he had a helmet on but when she got closer she clocked that it was him and she screammed and said "ohmygod ohmygod it's isaac it's isaac and she backed away in real shock the house mates are all stunned but they still dont know who it is, noirin gets over her shock enough to go straight to isaac and give him a hug and he says "hello baby" noirin moves to the side and one house mate asks if she knows him and noirin says "thats my ex boyfriend" isaac smiles and the guy noirin has been having kissing fun with goes into shock hahahaha theres more but i feel ive already typed too much and you may already know this stuff, so i'll end by saying that they are lovely and they are definitely NOT hated by ALL UK ridiculous!
It's such a shame that noirin and isaac left the show the two of them MADE that show in my opinion! those two were soo misunderstood it's pathetic! I wish them every luck with thier future and i hope they stay together i really do and if they really are getting married god bless them XXXXxxxxxx keep it together you two!
[quote=eiramenna;106204]It doesn't sound to me that you have actually watched all of BB from the start, if you had, then I am sure your opinion would be different.
Noirin's behaviour was embarrassing to say the least, cringeworthy actually.
She has been interviewed several times since leaving the show and has shown her true colours. As has her 'boyfriend of the moment' Isaac, also known now as noddy!!
Both are arrogant, egotistical, self centred, attention seeking wannabees.The man thinks he is hilarious when all he does is embarrass himself.Maybe on BB he was playing the villain, but on the follow up shows he appeared to be playing the village idiot, very successfully I may say.
And I think we all know Siavash is a grown man, but I would think any decent human being would at least feel bad about the awkwardness of the whole situation. But then again that rules Noirin out.
Lets hope they are both on their way to USA. sooner the better.[/quote]
I have watched the show from the beginning and neither noirin or isaac EVER came across as egotistical or arrogant but i guess it would appear that way to others who lack the obvious self esteem and confidence that noirin and isaac have!
And anyone with a sense of humour can clearly see that isaac is just having fun! and there are many people including myself that understood his humour and GOT the jokes! as for noirin there was NOTHING embarassing about her behaviour, she went into the house a single 25 year old woman with needs (as isaac himself put it LOL) what is so awful about her kissing and cuddling up to a guy that she fancied!?! she said ALL ALONG that she was in love with isaac and that she and siavash were just friends!!! she told him POINT BLANK that nothing would come of it outside of the house, it seems your as DEAF as him!
get over yourself! BEA!
I agree with you.....isaac wqs hilarious...but certain people wouldnt understand his witty sence of humour....oh well it jus goes to show how jelous and blinded people want to be....
good luck to em both....
oh oh oh and i dnt see any1 cussing siavash who DUMPED his girlfriend whilst on the show as he started kissing noirin.....he WAS NOT single...noirin was.....
[quote=KayKay;106376]
oh oh oh and i dnt see any1 cussing siavash who DUMPED his girlfriend whilst on the show as he started kissing noirin.....he WAS NOT single...noirin was.....[/quote]
Really? That surely is a double standard. Thanks for bringing this up.
[quote]I have watched the show from the beginning and neither noirin or isaac EVER came across as egotistical or arrogant but i guess it would appear that way to others who lack the obvious self esteem and confidence that noirin and isaac have![/quote]I agree noirin4issac. He is a fun loving person with a unique personality and although I can see why some people would "not get it" he is in fact quite a charming guy.
p.s. I take back my somewhat disparaging "little island" comment. It is a big, beautiful island! I just got caught up in the heat of the moment. I could see that eiramenna was trying to say in multiple posts, "I am happy that sewage is going back to the waste facility" in a backhanded kind of way and my nationalistic defense mechanism was triggered. ;)
[quote=KayKay;106376]
oh oh oh and i dnt see any1 cussing siavash who DUMPED his girlfriend whilst on the show as he started kissing noirin.....he WAS NOT single...noirin was.....[/quote]
Oh how interesting....Everyone seems to have forgotten to mention this amongst all the Noirin bashing....
Noirin + Isaac FTW :D
[quote=Bacchus;106378]Really? That surely is a double standard. Thanks for bringing this up.
I agree noirin4issac. He is a fun loving person with a unique personality and although I can see why some people would "not get it" he is in fact quite a charming guy.
p.s. I take back my somewhat disparaging "little island" comment. It is a big, beautiful island! I just got caught up in the heat of the moment. I could see that eiramenna was trying to say in multiple posts, "I am happy that sewage is going back to the waste facility" in a backhanded kind of way and my nationalistic defense mechanism was triggered. ;)[/quote]
Dont worry about it the British public can be extremely patronising and annoying at times and as a brit i have to admit that, i get ****** off with them myself, personally i could care less about where a person is from what background they have etc it's all about the PERSON
There have even been some racist ********* attacking noirin claiming that she is not really irish as she is black, IDIOTS! needless to say i do not suffer from nationalistic pride when we have those kind of plebs representing us, so i can understand your reaction to some of the twits leaving asinine comments here.
Trust me we are not ALL THE SAME
[quote=KayKay;106376]
oh oh oh and i dnt see any1 cussing siavash who DUMPED his girlfriend whilst on the show as he started kissing noirin.....he WAS NOT single...noirin was.....[/quote]
Although we as the general public don't know the whole deal here. He says that they were just seeing each other and he bigged it up in the first week - by his account to not get involved in a house thing but it could have been to make himself look better. We don't know if she was in the same place with the relationship or not however. So I don't think we can condemn him for this without knowing the full story.
Bacchus, re your points about Siavash, yes she did owe him an explanation, no they weren't married but no-one wants to be dropped like a hot potato and they had to live in a house together for the foreseeable future. He may have said he didn't want to speak to her to protect his ego.
[quote=meium;106439]So I don't think we can condemn him for this without knowing the full story.[/quote]
well if that is the case then u cant really comment about noirin and isaac....as the only part u know is the part that we have seen on big bro....
as i said earlier Im not backing or cussing anyone...but unless u have been in a similar situation u cant pass judgement....have an opinion by all means but u *** attack a persons character if u dont know them.....
Here's an interesting post-show video from Noirin and Isaac
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9r15aF8JY]YouTube - Big Brother | Attempted Murder? | Channel 4[/url]
Is it just me or does this just seem like its scripted?
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