The Ruins: Ep. 1 - Wes Side Story

[QUOTE=Debut Album;124791]Okay a few things. I don't see how some of the people on the champions team can get mad at Wes for Trying to throw a challenge to save himself when just a few challenges ago they they were throwing challenges to get rid of the girls on the Gauntlet 3. And They are saying that wes has a big ego but yet alot of them have some of the biggest egos around. Darell is a coward. How is he gonna attack KellyAnne because he's mad at Wes? If he has a problem with Wes take it up with Wes and He had the chance to do it but he pussed out Coward period. And add on to the fact that he's sucking up to Evan/John/Kenny just makes me lost alot of respect for him. I'm not Dissapointed about Chet and Diem Going home Wes and Tonya Pulling out a Win <33333333 Danny was right Wes and Tonya Winning is gonna benefit The Challengers more because Wes and Tonya are a detriment to their team. And someone tell Johanna it's not about her. Wes<333333333 It's good to know that there's someone there that's not afraid to stand up to them J/K/E Know that they can't compete with him one on one and they're scared of him. That's probably why Evan was mad at Wes for not calling him and telling him he was going to be on this challenge.[/QUOTE] You don't get to see all of what happened as it happened so it's unfair to say Darrell just started attacking KA for no reason. Darrell would also whoop Wes' *** too, what you saw out of Wes last night with Darrell was 100% show. No way a random freckled fool from the tumbleweeds of wherever Wes is from is going to just man up with a Golden Gloves boxer and beat him in a fair fight. I thought Wes looked like a bigger coward on the first Duel when he had to plot to get Evan and CT to go against each other because he knew he couldn't take either of them out himself, and then trying to be big and mouth off to CT when he was 20 feet away with a railing in between them.

When it comes to Wes and Johanna, I think they are both *******es. But I enjoy Wes' antics a little more than Johanna's because she's so dependent on everyone else protecting her. Wes is going at this alone. And Darrell pulled a ***** move by going after KellyAnne. It was a weak, bullying tactic that I would expect from CT.

No, Darrell clearly stated that he had a problem with Wes. So any fight that he had with Kelly Anne was derived from his issue with Wes. Even Wes stated that he felt Darrell was attempting to get a rise out of him. This is why freckle face Wes is not a punk: because he stood up to Darrell for his woman! And this is why Golden Gloves boxer is a punk: because he brought a woman into a problem he had with another man!

why the whole team has to pay the price for the feud between wes and kenny. the most of the team didnt have any problem with wes, in fact darrell, evan and derrick had a good relationship with wes before the challenge. Darrell and derrick are mad about wes because he is throwing missions. darrell wanted that wes punch him to get rid of him. what darrel said about kellyanne is very disrespectfull and wrong, but i dont see anybody criticizing wes whe he said that he is wealthy and said that darrel was just a personal trainer and low class person. i know why because everybody see the bad things that other people do but they dont see the bad things that wes does. i wonder why mtv didnt show that part and the part when wes said that he is the top dog of the team so anybody cant vote for him

[QUOTE=alucard666;124800]why the whole team has to pay the price for the feud between wes and kenny. the most of the team didnt have any problem with wes, in fact darrell, evan and derrick had a good relationship with wes before the challenge. Darrell and derrick are mad about wes because he is throwing missions. darrell wanted that wes punch him to get rid of him. what darrel said about kellyanne is very disrespectfull and wrong, but i dont see anybody criticizing wes whe he said that he is wealthy and said that darrel was just a personal trainer and low class person. i know why because everybody see the bad things that other people do but they dont see the bad things that wes does. i wonder why mtv didnt show that part and the part when wes said that he is the top dog of the team so anybody cant vote for him[/QUOTE] I didn't notice that part about Wes dissing Darrell for being a personal trainer until a later watching. Actually it was after I watched yesterday's dailies (which I saw after the show). So if it was in the show, I missed it. It wasn't cool, and akin to Susie saying Tonya can't call her crazy because she is going for a doctorate degree, but I think he was trying to be hurtful to Darrell after Darrell was going off on him and KA. I really wish MTV would have shown the beginning of the talk with Wes and Darrell so we can see exactly what set Darrell off. Because we don't really know. They should put that extended footage in a daily. It's like the missing part of the puzzle.

I don't care what Wes and Darrell say to each other. That's two guys being ****heads but going after KA was a ***** move. No other way around it.

Agreed 1000%.. Darrell is such a punk.. Making fun of a woman who hasn't said anything about him just because he's angry at Wes... What a coward.. Him and derrick also make me mad because they do whatever Kenny, Johnny, and evan say.. Do those two fricking idiots not realize that once Wes and maybe Syrus go they are going to be next?? They dont look cool for hanging out with kenny, johnny, and evan they both look desperate and pathetic... Grow a spine you cowards... The following people can go to ****: Kenny Johnny Evan Darrell Derrick Susie and probably vernoica.. Ends my rant for today..

I've said this once and I'll say it again - whoever was responsible for casting the Sydney females should've been fired. With the exception of Parisa...they're some of the most miserable people. Ugh. And Austin? Don't even get me started. I don't think I can name one person from that cast that I actually liked. Maybe Lacey. [I]Maybe[/I]. That said - I can't wait to watch the inevitable sh.tshow between Wes, KellyAnne, and everyone else.

Facebook: Diem Brown So funny MTV didnt show 1/2 of things..I BEGGED 2b put in & BEGGED even harder 4 Johanna 2make Tonya pick me ;) I HAD 2 & needed 2...hint ;)

HAHAHA!!!!! I love it! Wes just went up one notch in my book!

[QUOTE=RockSteadyVybes;124813]Facebook: Diem Brown So funny MTV didnt show 1/2 of things..I BEGGED 2b put in & BEGGED even harder 4 Johanna 2make Tonya pick me ;) I HAD 2 & needed 2...hint ;)[/QUOTE] She had to leave? Did she get knocked up?

[QUOTE=nafselon;124817]She had to leave? Did she get knocked up?[/QUOTE] She didn't want to play dirty: [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=4057][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/12154ac4f30840460.gif[/img][/url] It probably would have been hard for her without someone like CT protecting her.

That's a weak excuse. I really don't see how she would have gotten involved in the dirt unless she dragged herself in. The challengers team doesn't really seem like a dirty bunch. Maybe she didn't want any more B-roll of "Diem in the PM".

[QUOTE=eggs78;124822]She didn't want to play dirty: It probably would have been hard for her without someone like CT protecting her.[/QUOTE] The game is only as "dirty" as you play it....boo urns on her reasoning!! At least I don't have to see anymore of her "game face" that she puts on before going into these things! LOL

[QUOTE=nafselon;124823] Maybe she didn't want any more B-roll of "Diem in the PM".[/QUOTE] That's certainly not a good image for her charity.

I really enjoyed this episode! Few comments: People seem to be back and forth on the Wes throwing missions thing. Honestly it's not very team player-y of him to do that, but he never said he was a team player. I personally find it funny because I don't like Johnny, Evan, and Kenny. Wes making their lives **** for a few minutes was totally worth it to me. Veronica <333 Did anyone else notice that Susie got a lot of airtime? The way they were showing her, I thought for sure she was going home, but she didn't even get sent in!

[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;124828]I really enjoyed this episode! People seem to be back and forth on the Wes throwing missions thing. Honestly it's not very team player-y of him to do that, but he never said he was a team player. I personally find it funny because I don't like Johnny, Evan, and Kenny. Wes making their lives **** for a few minutes was totally worth it to me. [/QUOTE] [B]Debut Album[/B] also made a great point, that many of these people in past shows have "thrown" challenges. I will give it to Wes for at least coming right out and telling EVERYONE what he was going to do, unlike those in the past, that have made it seem unintentional or have been secretive to save face. That 3 ring circus that is JEK just get sour when they get a taste of their own medicine - happens every time.

[QUOTE=GoddessLyric;124776]...so you guys caught that smirk too. I'm telling you, downing other females is a sure sign of insecurity![/QUOTE] That smirk stuck out like the New Orleans Superdome. It proves that some people never grow up.

I am glad Wes stayed. He is my favorite player of all-time. I can't wait til we see a Kenny/Evan/Bananas inner circle. Although, we probablly won't. :/

[QUOTE=ieotherwords;124836][B]Debut Album[/B] also made a great point, that many of these people in past shows have "thrown" challenges. I will give it to Wes for at least coming right out and telling EVERYONE what he was going to do, unlike those in the past, that have made it seem unintentional or have been secretive to save face. [B]That 3 ring circus that is JEK just get sour when they get a taste of their own medicine - happens every time[/B].[/QUOTE] Exactly. It's a whole diffrent story when the shoe is on the other foot.

[QUOTE=eggs78;124827]That's certainly not a good image for her charity.[/QUOTE] Sad thing is "Diem in the PM" was one of the really likable things about her. It was nice to see her actually have a personality and in comparison to most, her wild side is very tame and harmless.

Every time I see Johnny he looks so different....I think he has been working out or something, but his face keeps changing.

I loved this episode I hope that Derrick and Cohutta do well this challenge and I liked Susie for the first time...ever

I thought that this was a great episode and so far this challenge has really been worth the wait. I do have to admit, Wes annoyed the **** out of me for the majority of the episode. I was pretty indifferent to him in the beginning but then he said something like "until you give me the power, I'll throw the missions." What in the world makes him think that he deserves the power? Are they not supposed to be working as a team? Everyone else seems to be working together perfectly fine right now so I just don't understand it. I completely agree with Kenny and Evan when they said that Wes is making it seem like he is the Challenge God and they should all bow down to him. Then when he and Kenny were talking he just randomly threw in a comment about how ugly his hat was? I'm all for the drama but Wes was just being ridiculous in my opinion. I was really sad to see Chet go so early, I hope he decides to do another one because I think he could be a pretty decent competitor. Next week looks even more intense and I'm really excited for the rest of this season.

Diem probably just knew that the Challengers were going to lose this entire season - so that weighted a bit on the reasons why she didn't give her all.

i think it was smart that ibis fell to get wes disqualified, bc wes was gonna ruin the challenge for the champs, wes gots to go!

[QUOTE=Delancy221;124890]i think it was smart that ibis fell to get wes disqualified, bc wes was gonna ruin the challenge for the champs, wes gots to go![/QUOTE] I'd [I]kill[/I] to see Wes run the show. Unlike JEK, he's actually worth something...entertainment-wise.

[QUOTE=GoddessLyric;124792]There are stans on this board. ...[/QUOTE] Stans? For disagreeing with you? You know you can disagree with people without being insulting. That's the mature thing to do. People could argue that you are being a stan for Wes since you seem so intent on defending him and villifying Johanna. We didn't insult you, so there's no need to go there. It just makes you look frustrated and devoid of a real argument. We are just discussing reality people on a reality board. And I don't know why you can't comprehend the concept of people who have dated being civil with each other without being together. Whether you want to admit it or not, it is possible. I have been in this situation. For the record, I don't mind Wes or Johanna, but if people are being ridiculous I'm going to call them out on it. I'm not one-sided. I think they are all immature, but some more than others. That's all.

Despite the fact that I don't like Wes because I think he is too cocky, I have to recognize that he is one of the strongest competitors I have ever since in the challenges. I think he is right because he doesn't have other options, if he plays nice and like a team player, the champions are going to send him in every time because they are scared to go home.