Big Brother 12: Episode 2 - Discussion

I missed the 1st 20 minutes!!

Kathy = saboteur? Maybe throwing the food comp? Hmm.

There is no way Kathy is NOT the saboteur....or she is really pathetic. I heard that... [spoiler] Hayden and a couple others think that Kathy is the saboteur because production kept trying to sway him from putting her up in his DR sessions. [/spoiler]

Ok this sabotuer nonsense is such a cheap gimmick and needs to go.

After all the witch-hunting for the saboteur, I have 3 suspects. Kathy - Everyone trusts the cop, it would almost be too easy to make her saboteur. Plus, she's been sort of over the top with it and been really animated. Monet - It seems like she was a part of all the conversations shown tonight about the saboteur. I can't remember where she was either times (before and after the power outage) so that might eliminate her. Matt - Along with the same reasons as Monet, he's a genius. I would love for it to be him though, he's been my favorite thus far (I know it's only two episodes). Plus, I think he could actually make it a good thing. I'm disappointed to see a "Four Horsemen" type alliance though brewing with the four guys.

Kathy has to be the sabotuer. I laughed so hard when she called that little blonde girl, she was so bad and then told someone else they were awful. Also the Enzo alliance was hillarious as he had nicknames for all and a team prepared. It almost felt like..... KISS.

I'm must say that Hayden was kind of teasing me with that fairy outfit on. Does Britney remind anyone else of Casey from [I]The Challenges[/I]?

[QUOTE=jjlucash;190102]I'm must say that Hayden was kind of teasing me with that fairy outfit on. [B]Does Britney remind anyone else of Casey from [I]The Challenges[/I]?[/B][/QUOTE] Britney does kind of remind me of Casey now that you point it out. I guess if they ever do anything with heights we will have to see how Britney does. Although the hotdog competition and the popcorn competition were a little bit of insight. My thoughts on the sabetour/mole: I'm not really sure who the sabetour could be. I'm kind of leaning toward Ragan, just because everyone so far loves him and seems to be able to trust him. He seems like the least likely, but I'm going with it. I really think it's going to be someone who we least expect and that they houseguests would never get. So I immediatly threw out Andrew/Matt/Monet/Brendon because those were the ones I heard many people were guessing from their pre-interviews/first episode. I just don't think they would really focus the edit on the mole. I could be wrong though. I thought the fourhorsemen type alliance is hialarious. I was reminded a little of Jersey Shore with the nicknames, because Enzo is from Jersey and he said everyone has nicknames there. It made me laugh.

The alliance is very annoying. Hayden irks me for some reason. I hope he goes. The same for Enzo. I know people enjoy his "fuggetaboutit" personality, but he's trying too hard too fast. They Also don't seem too friendly. I like when likeable people make an alliance. No one ever threw out Kristen's name. She, like Ragan, is not on anyone's radar. Obviously the Saboteur has to be someone who can lie and cheat really well. Have a really good Poker Face. I feel bad for Andrew :( doesn't seem like the "Brigade" likes him. The only reason I remember the name of the alliance, was because Lane so elegantly explained that he doesn't know what a "Brigade" is. Really Lane? Are you special, or just plain well... stupid. Thinking about it, why would anyone ever admit to not knowing what such a simple word means? He definitely has heard of brigade, so why would he tell America? Maybe to look really stupid, so no one suspects him of being a saboteur.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;190134] No one ever threw out Kristen's name. She, like Ragan, is not on anyone's radar. Obviously the Saboteur has to be someone who can lie and cheat really well. Have a really good Poker Face. I feel bad for Andrew :( doesn't seem like the "Brigade" likes him. The only reason I remember the name of the alliance, was because Lane so elegantly explained that he doesn't know what a "Brigade" is. Really Lane? Are you special, or just plain well... stupid. Thinking about it, why would anyone ever admit to not knowing what such a simple word means? He definitely has heard of brigade, so why would he tell America? Maybe to look really stupid, so no one suspects him of being a saboteur.[/QUOTE] I did consider Kristin, but I think her persona changed it for me. The whold Lane and the word "Brigade" was hilarious. You do have a great point, he could be the saboteur. I'm almost never right at guessing so if I had to pick either Ragan/Lane/possibly Kristin.

I have been leaning towards Matt being the saboteur. Anyway, I wish the saboteur could lose so that we do not have to watch half an episode of people worrying about who it is every episode. I do like Matt though, I think and maybe Brendon and Andrew. Still really early though.

[QUOTE=DScott;190175]I have been leaning towards Matt being the saboteur. Anyway, I wish the saboteur could lose so that we do not have to watch half an episode of people worrying about who it is every episode. I do like Matt though, I think and maybe Brendon and Andrew. Still really early though.[/QUOTE] I find that part quite intersting. What I don't want to see is the whole competition, especially the one they did tonight with the honey. They could have edited way better IMO.

Wait...didn't they announce who the saboteur is tonight?

[QUOTE=molds13;190179]Wait...didn't they announce who the saboteur is tonight?[/QUOTE] Unfortunately....no. I was bummed they didn't :( From what I've heard, I think they are doing it Thrusday.

[QUOTE=fabulous788;190181]Unfortunately....no. I was bummed they didn't :( From what I've heard, I think they are doing it Thrusday.[/QUOTE] What a load of ****...the bar I was at was showing part of the (I think) veto comp where they were crawling through what appeared to be caramel and Cap'n Crunch. I tried to pay attention long enough to find out who the saboteur was, but we had free beer...

[QUOTE=molds13;190183]What a load of ****...the bar I was at was showing part of the (I think) veto comp where they were crawling through what appeared to be caramel and Cap'n Crunch. I tried to pay attention long enough to find out who the saboteur was, but we had free beer...[/QUOTE] Hehehehe. That competition was actually the Have/Have-Nots competition and a whole bunch of popcorn. Veto is the next episode, but we did find out nominations which is Rachel (redhead) and Brendon (hot swim coach).

[QUOTE=fabulous788;190184]Hehehehe. That competition was actually the Have/Have-Nots competition and a whole bunch of popcorn. Veto is the next episode, but we did find out nominations which is Rachel (redhead) and Brendon (hot swim coach).[/QUOTE] But was it caramel?

[QUOTE=fabulous788;190176]I find that part quite intersting. What I don't want to see is the whole competition, [B]especially the one they did tonight with the honey. They could have edited way better[/B] IMO.[/QUOTE] You are definitely right about that, the competition did drag on quite a bit. I like it to be talked about for a little, but I just find it funny everyone is so worried, but honestly in this game most of the time you should be worried. To be so nervous about some saboteur when almost everyone else in the game is more likely than not, out to screw you over. I think that made sense haha, I need some sleep haven't really slept in a week lol

[QUOTE=molds13;190188]But was it caramel?[/QUOTE] Now that I think of it, yes I'm pretty sure it was. I said earlier in the thread it was honey, but I'm sure it was caramel because that makes more sense.

We find out who the Sabateur is Thursday. Probably after the first evicted houseguest comes out, Julie will say "Do you want to know who the Saboteur is?" and then it will be revealed. I am still suspicious about Lane. I think I brought up a good point about Brigade. I didn't think it was funny. I thought it was sad and humiliating.

So far I like Ragan, Annie, Rachel, and Brendon. I kind of like Matt, but I don't like the whole brigade alliance type thing since I don't like any of the other guys in it. Enzo annoys the **** out of me every time he opens his mouth.

[QUOTE=Wilderwolf;190280]So far I like Ragan, Annie, Rachel, and Brendon. I kind of like Matt, but I don't like the whole brigade alliance type thing since I don't like any of the other guys in it. Enzo annoys the **** out of me every time he opens his mouth.[/QUOTE] You may be the first person who actually likes Annie and Rachel. I've read a good amount of BB blogs and the majority usually hate Annie and are on the fence about Rachel. Having said that, My faves of the moment are Matt, Ragan, Enzo, and Kathy. However Matt and Enzo are borderline annoying also.

Am I the only one who thinks the casting for this season is terrible? They are all so boring to watch.

[QUOTE=hooligan87;190380]You may be the first person who actually likes Annie and Rachel. I've read a good amount of BB blogs and the majority usually hate Annie and are on the fence about Rachel. Having said that, My faves of the moment are Matt, Ragan, Enzo, and Kathy. However Matt and Enzo are borderline annoying also.[/QUOTE] That's nothing new, I always seem to like the ones no one else does. [QUOTE=challenger90;190387]Am I the only one who thinks the casting for this season is terrible? They are all so boring to watch.[/QUOTE] I really like this cast. What do you want out of a cast the first two episodes for you to consider them entertaining?