You Americans can see it live ( I mean on MTV America TV), we Europeans could watch it just on internet. It's really strange, and I think that you are watching 'too broadly.' For example before 6 months, you are questioning for the title, casting, location. You do not feel pleasure event.
Do you notice at the Challenge begins and ends like? What a pleasure to watch, if you know every detail of who wins, who fall out of what will hit anyone. You are no longer able to enjoy the spectacle that is the worst.
Now I'm broking the rules, because I wrote off-topic, right? Sorry, just all the commerce cause anger. Why are falling ratings? and.. Do you wondering about next challenge?
You know every detail! I am delighted for Mark, for Derrick, I just wonder how funny scene started in 2000's, is now JEK event, which began from the 2006's. (Fresh meat first).
[QUOTE=4realWORLD;192145]You Americans can see it live ( I mean on MTV America TV), we Europeans could watch it just on internet. It's really strange, and I think that you are watching 'too broadly.' For example before 6 months, you are questioning for the title, casting, location. You do not feel pleasure event.[/quote]
Oh...I feel lots of pleasure.
[quote]and.. Do you wondering about next challenge?
You know every detail! I am delighted for Mark, for Derrick, I just wonder how funny scene started in 2000's, is now JEK event, which began from the 2006's. (Fresh meat first).[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not really wondering about the next challenge because I know every detail. Well, except for the format, the teams, the elimination winners, and the challenges.
exactly. You are not really wondering about the next challenge because you know every detail. So what's the point to know every detail if after that you are not wondering to watch Challenge.
Challenge should be intrigue, tension, speculation with yourself.
What a pleasure to go to the lazy point if you know the answers? There is no fun, is the only victory. But when you know next Challenge answers, you do not get anything, just lose your enjoyment. I mean... I really can't to explain.
So about what I was talking when I said 'you Americans just don't understand Challenge fun'. I did not want to offend.
[QUOTE=4realWORLD;192147]exactly. You are not really wondering about the next challenge because you know every detail. So what's the point to know every detail if after that you are not wondering to watch Challenge.
Challenge should be intrigue, tension, speculation with yourself.
What a pleasure to go to the lazy point if you know the answers? There is no fun, is the only victory. But when you know next Challenge answers, you do not get anything, just lose your enjoyment. I mean... I really can't to explain.
So about what I was talking when I said 'you Americans just don't understand Challenge fun'. I did not want to offend.[/QUOTE]
But...my point is that I don't know every detail. I know the elimination order (which isn't even set in stone) and the name. That's it.
I don't know what the "lazy point" is. I think we've got a bit of a language barrier here.
I don't lose any enjoyment watching the challenge just because I know who won.
Oh, I do not know how you call it. lazy point - it's places where people betting on sports games. I'm glad that you don't lose any enjoyment. Maybe the perception of enjoyment is one of the differences between Europeans and Americans.
I think The Duel 3 will be awesome because superstar competitors like Mark, Darrell, and Evelyn said that they would only come back for that specific challenge. However, I see comments about Aneesa coming back for the Duel 3, its like no offense to Aneesa but why would you come back for a Duel where you have such a small percent chance at winning. If I were her, I would've come back for Cut Throat, since its a team challenge, there is a better chance that she would've made it to the end and won, than in a Duel. I mean Aneesa could easily tear apart almost every girl on that cast in an elimination, which is what she is best at.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;192151]I think The Duel 3 will be awesome because superstar competitors like Mark, Darrell, and Evelyn said that they would only come back for that specific challenge. However, I see comments about Aneesa coming back for the Duel 3, its like no offense to Aneesa but why would you come back for a Duel where you have such a small percent chance at winning. If I were her, I would've come back for Cut Throat, since its a team challenge, there is a better chance that she would've made it to the end and won, than in a Duel. I mean Aneesa could easily tear apart almost every girl on that cast in an elimination, which is what she is best at.[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't she come back?? She won 15K last duel.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;191583]Wow...so you like all the girls that have their heads up Kenny's ***?[/QUOTE]
Hahah - well I am sure there are others that do - I am not a Laurel fan, I am iffy about Jillian, etc.
I don't like Wes at all so can't really like anyone who has their head up his ***, so I guess I default to Team Kenny. That and I haven't seen some of the older seasons that most of you pick your favorites from....
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;192151]I think The Duel 3 will be awesome because superstar competitors like Mark, Darrell, and Evelyn said that they would only come back for that specific challenge. However, I see comments about Aneesa coming back for the Duel 3, its like no offense to Aneesa but why would you come back for a Duel where you have such a small percent chance at winning. If I were her, I would've come back for Cut Throat, since its a team challenge, there is a better chance that she would've made it to the end and won, than in a Duel. I mean Aneesa could easily tear apart almost every girl on that cast in an elimination, which is what she is best at.[/QUOTE]
If I was the 3rd place female on both Duels I'd definitely want to come back for another one. On the first Duel she would've made the final mission if Svetlana chose any of the other games but she chose I Can because she knew that was her best shot (a smart move on her part). And on the Duel 2 Aneesa beat both Paula (decent competitor) and Tori (who is a great competitor but let the game get to her head). I think Aneesa would have a good chance of winning the Duel 3 on her own, especially if the cards fell her way. And she didn't even have an alliance on the Duel. I mean she had Beth and Nehemiah, but they didn't do much for her except picked her so she wouldn't of been last picked, which she probably wouldn't have been anyways.
[QUOTE=feminthea;192179]Hahah - well I am sure there are others that do - I am not a Laurel fan, I am iffy about Jillian, etc.
I don't like Wes at all so can't really like anyone who has their head up his ***, so I guess I default to Team Kenny. That and I haven't seen some of the older seasons that most of you pick your favorites from....[/QUOTE]
I'm neither Team Kenny or Wes. I'm for Team Evan :D
Laurel was just Kenny's partner. We have yet to see how the interpersonal dynamics work between the two of them when they aren't partners. And Jill seems to rely on him a lot less than the other girls you mentioned.
Aneesa winning a Duel just seems really unlikely. She's great at eliminations, but to me she's never been a strong competitor otherwise.
I asked Aneesa on FB why she hasn't returned since The Duel 2 & she said they haven't asked her. I think she would've been good for Challenger team on the Ruins.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;192240]Has she never won?[/QUOTE]
She indeed has never won a challenge.
Battle of the Sexes: 7th girl to be eliminated
Battle of the Sexes 2: 9th girl to be eliminated
The Gauntlet 2: Veterans lost in the final and she was on the final team
The Duel: Third Place, lost to Svetlana in I Can
The Inferno 3: Final girl eliminated, lost to Paula in Shimmy
The Duel 2: Third Place in the final
Oh wow...in that case she totally should have been a Challenger. Even if she wasn't a huge asset in the final mission, I think she could have taken out Susie.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;192260]Oh wow...in that case she totally should have been a Challenger. Even if she wasn't a huge asset in the final mission, I think she could have taken out Susie.[/QUOTE]
She is a beast.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;192264]She is...in eliminations. But lately, when has she won missions as an individual?[/QUOTE]
For sure. She will be the first 1 to say that she sucks at missions, but she will **** a ***** up in a 1 on 1. Sometimes that is enough to win.
[QUOTE=RMD1;192265]For sure. She will be the first 1 to say that she sucks at missions, but she will **** a ***** up in a 1 on 1. Sometimes that is enough to win.[/QUOTE]
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"She will cut you with words"
[QUOTE=RMD1;192292]She made it to the finals in the duel 2. It worked for her.[/QUOTE]
And she was third place in the first Duel :)
Yes, she made it to the final, but she did not win. She wasn't even close to winning, and I'm sure had other girls made to the final, such as Tori or Diem, they would have beaten her. I thought winning the final is what we were referring to.
They should of put people who were infamous for losing challenges on the challengers team, people who came up short so many times and actually deserved to win. Like Robin, Paula, Aneesa - putting Casey on any challenge is a waste of space, having a couple rookies was okay, and Kim was okay with me, same with Diem. But Casey & Shauvon, forget about it. I think it would have been really interesting had Brad beat Evan in the Duel II because then Evan would have been on a team against Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny, and maybe Veronica, Syrus, Darrell, and even Susie could have teamed up with Brad to counter that alliance.
[QUOTE=rsox813;192352]They should of put people who were infamous for losing challenges on the challengers team, people who came up short so many times and actually deserved to win. Like Robin, Paula, Aneesa - putting Casey on any challenge is a waste of space, having a couple rookies was okay, and Kim was okay with me, same with Diem. But Casey & Shauvon, forget about it. [B]I think it would have been really interesting had Brad beat Evan in the Duel II because then Evan would have been on a team against Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny, and maybe Veronica, Syrus, Darrell, and even Susie could have teamed up with Brad to counter that alliance[/B].[/QUOTE]
That would have been some great television and maybe the teams would have been a little better with Evan on the Challengers, but we got a complete smack down by the champs. I really loved that whole season though. It was the best most recent season.
Really? It just seemed really sad to me that they could have made the Challengers team so awesome and instead took all the scrubs who never won. CT, Aneesa, and Beth would have been much better than certain people who were cast.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;192355]Really? It just seemed really sad to me that they could have made the Challengers team so awesome and instead took all the scrubs who never won. CT, Aneesa, and Beth would have been much better than certain people who were cast.[/QUOTE]
No doubt about it those guys should have been cast over some people like Shauvon, Brianna, Casey, Nick, Danny, and Dunbar just to name a few ;) But out of the most recent seasons (The Island, Duel 2, The Ruins, Fresh Meat 2) I just think it's the best drama and plot wise.
Yeah CT would have been a great casting choice, and it totally would've changed the game. I think the produces ignored the fact that everyone from the Champions team was actually good or at the very least could have/previously won an elimination round. The Challengers team did have some strong people on it, but just not in comparison. The Champions were just too stacked. I think some of the strong freshmeat who didn't get a second chance at a challenge could have been really good additions, like Johnnie and Chanda. Chanda was never shown making drama or anything, but she's a good competitor. Maybe she's too normal for these shows though.
Strong competitors for the challengers team could have been Ct, Shane, Ruthie, Tina, Beth, Aneesa, Puck, Dan (rr14), and Derek (rr14) but instead they chose people who were more recently on a show- which was dumb considering we hadnt seen Susie, Syrus, Veronica or Ibis in awhile and they all got pretty decent camera time
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