Cutthroat: Real World/ Road Rules Challenge - Speculation (Spoilers)

Yeah I didnt hear anything either, other than her aking Dunbar how she was(good or bad)? and he said good, and then Abe gave her some weird look...and Dunbar said they were the only 3 good ones on the team....so does that mean Luke or Cara are the screw ups?

I heard it..its right after Dunbar states "I thought u where the 3 best elements of the team"

[QUOTE=Darock1713;212299]Yeah, I quoted myself because I want to check my quotes against the 4 times Brandon goes in ........................ in addition, while BMP did a Big Brother style voting technique, it's obvious that there are (5) running the Reds, and they control the voting block. Camila doesn't go in consecutively only because there are 2 girls in this alliance and Tori likes her ............ however, she is also friends with Melinda. Morris .............. while I agree with you that the CT/Tina gulag favors the person that goes second, I am still unconvinced that Theresa could outlast Tori against Tina regardless of the pecking order. Tori is flat out stronger and better than Tina in my opinion, and Theresa does not compare. [B][I]As for CT, man they gave him a "monster edit"!!!!!!!!!!![/I][/B] From what I saw in the preview, he didn't look like he was struggling much against the person he was going against. One strong dude to be walking in the opposite direction when a 200lb person is trying to pull against you. Sick! With that said, it really doesn't matter who went 1st or 2nd. It was a matter of who CT choose to go full bore on.[/QUOTE] I agree that Tor is stronger than Theresa, so if Tori went against Tina first, I'm sure she posted a great time. If Tori went second, not only would she post a great time normally, but she'd have some extra advantages. [QUOTE=LakersFan2;212336]I don't know if this was mentioned already but I saw CT going up against a guy in a gray shirt.[/QUOTE] You sure it wasn't blue? Because CT only goes against Johnny and Tyler...

[QUOTE=LakersFan2;212336]I don't know if this was mentioned already but I saw CT going up against a guy in a gray shirt.[/QUOTE] I saw that too, but in one of the dailies, Tyler is also wearing a gray shirt, just like his red one.

[QUOTE=molds13;212365]Paula: Your team was just good, or bad. That's what I thought your team was. Sarah: What was I? Paula: You were good! [B]Dunbar: You were one of the good ones. You three were actually the good element and everyone else was bad, to be honest. Sarah: Didn't turn out like that![/B] Says quite the opposite, if you ask me...[/QUOTE] Nice catch Molds I caught on that too but after you mentioned it on here. Sarah says it as shes looking down like trying to play it off that she didnt say anything.

[QUOTE=molds13;212373]After thinking about it for a minute, the guy on CT's back looks like Johnny. Because when we saw Tyler in the Gulag, his shirt was red. And we've also seen a shot of Johnny in a blue shirt. [B]Probably just a case of color editing[/B].[/QUOTE] Apparently I have the memory of a young child, because I clearly remember that now. My new theory is that BMP is just trying to mess with our mind.

[QUOTE=molds13;212365]Paula: Your team was just good, or bad. That's what I thought your team was. Sarah: What was I? Paula: You were good! [B]Dunbar: You were one of the good ones. You three were actually the good element and everyone else was bad, to be honest. Sarah: Didn't turn out like that![/B] Says quite the opposite, if you ask me...[/QUOTE] Does that mean Sarahs the one who doesnt finish the final mission?

[QUOTE=molds13;212365]Paula: Your team was just good, or bad. That's what I thought your team was. Sarah: What was I? Paula: You were good! [B]Dunbar: You were one of the good ones. You three were actually the good element and everyone else was bad, to be honest. Sarah: Didn't turn out like that![/B] Says quite the opposite, if you ask me...[/QUOTE] What is surprising me is that Paula did not show any bitterness towards Dunbar albeit it's too early for her to reveal what happened. However, I am really starting to think that after Brandon's & Camila's departures, the Red team could have decided to play fair amongst the 6 remaining veterans since they all see to have some sort of tie to each other ............... [I]perhaps self righteous Tori called a team meeting and decided that they would pull straws for the ensuing gulags if they're teams lost[/I]. I thought her comment about the girls playing a dirty game was funny, given their intentions to throw members under the bus. Brad - just as I predicted he would say .... "I chose these 2 because I feel like they need to prove themselves, Go Red!" I digress! Anyways, maybe Paula and Tori decided that they would alternate going into the gulag at the end if their team lost the last 2 missions or maybe Paula did get screwed and her spaz moments were edited.

To me it seemed as though Paula was bitter towards Brad and Tori, but you know it could have been Tyler that screwed her over in the end....which he would do.

Hey so I know we were trying to figure out some of the missions and I know that we got so far 1. Gas Problems 2. Upside down thing 3. Jumping Platforms 4. Horse Race 5. Swinging Platform Now I think mission 6 is the one where you see Brandon swinging from one hanging ring to the next because I see him swinging and then I see 7 other behind him in lifejackets which are his teammates. Now if you look at it quickly it looks like there is Brandon and 6 people behind him but I paused it and you can another person just a little bit next to Melinda one the left. Its on the first episode at 41:03. Plus mission 6 is the where Melinda and Brandon are eliminated so this has to be the 6th mission. We still have the tight rope walk mission which is either 7 or 8. There is also the one that looks like an obstacle course which actually might be mission 7 since Dan is in that mission and the 7th mission is the last we see of him. So I guess it is 1. Gas Problems 2. Upside down thing 3. Jumping Platforms 4. Horse Race 5. Swinging Platform 6. Ring Grab thing 7. Obstacle Course 8. Tight rope walk 9. Riot Shield thing So I guess thats all the missions lol.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;212507]To me it seemed as though Paula was bitter towards Brad and Tori, but you know it could have been Tyler that screwed her over in the end....which he would do.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Anyways, maybe Paula and Tori decided that they would alternate going into the gulag at the end if their team lost the last 2 missions or maybe Paula did get screwed and her spaz moments were edited.[/QUOTE] You know, I could be proven wrong here, but I don't really see any way this could have gone down to give Paula a legitimate case against her team. She went into ONE gulag. Every female member of the red team saw at least one, including Tori. If Tori hadn't gone into the second-to-last one, I'd maybe see where she was coming from. But Tori did go in. And, as previously noted, Paula only went in once. Yeah, it was bad luck to lose, but she and Tori went in the same number of times, and only after [I]every other[/I] woman on the team had seen a gulag was Paula sent in. Married couple or no, I just don't see where, in this scenario, Paula is getting screwed. Unless something else comes to light, being married to Brad didn't get Tori any advantage over Paula in being sent into elimination rounds. There were two of them left, and two elimination rounds left. I just don't see why Paula would think Tori should have gone in twice while she went in zero times.

[QUOTE=molds13;212518]I believe that the ring challenge is before the swinging platform challenge. And I was under the assumption that the obstacle course and the horse race challenge were one in the same. You can also see Dan in the tightrope challenge. I have: 1. Gas chamber 2. Upside down 3. Jumping platform 4. Horse Race 5. Rings 6. Swinging platform 7. Tightrope 8. ??? 9. Riot shields[/QUOTE] Hmm, see with mission 5 and 6 it was hard. Now I don't know if Chet went home because of mission 5 or 6. I don't see him in the ring challenge. I was on the assumption that he got hurt from falling off the swinging platform one so I would put that as the 5th challenge. So they compete in the first 4, then mission 5 is the swing, he gets hurt and leaves leaving 8 left on the team and then they compete in the 6th challenge with the rings. Now the obstacle course is confusing because I did see some obstacle stuff in the horse one but I feel like I saw another separate obstacle course mission in another clip. I'm not sure yet but we do have most of it down so far. I guess we will see when it comes.

Also there is that gun challenge where you see Brad and Jenn looking through some sort of scope. However that could be part of the final so I am not sure.

Is it known which team wins Cutthroat? I've heard Red and Blue and I know Gray didn't win but was there ever confirmation on a winner?

[QUOTE=MrsPlumBean;212523]You know, I could be proven wrong here, but I don't really see any way this could have gone down to give Paula a legitimate case against her team. She went into ONE gulag. Every female member of the red team saw at least one, including Tori. If Tori hadn't gone into the second-to-last one, I'd maybe see where she was coming from. But Tori did go in. And, as previously noted, Paula only went in once. Yeah, it was bad luck to lose, but she and Tori went in the same number of times, and only after [I]every other[/I] woman on the team had seen a gulag was Paula sent in. Married couple or no, I just don't see where, in this scenario, Paula is getting screwed. Unless something else comes to light, being married to Brad didn't get Tori any advantage over Paula in being sent into elimination rounds. There were two of them left, and two elimination rounds left. I just don't see why Paula would think Tori should have gone in twice while she went in zero times.[/QUOTE] Excellent perspective!!!!! The Paula analogy makes sense. I wish the guys would have all went in, but it's difficult when 1 member goes in 4x. I will say this, I think the real "tool" of this challenge was Chet. It's obvious he was convinced by vets to vote accordingly. He voted in Mandi (per next weeks previews) when he and her allegedly had a budding romance, which means to me that he is under the direction of someone or a group of people. Also after watching the Aftershow, I realize how disgusted I will be with the edits this season. All this crap about Lauel and Mandi; theresa and Camila, on and on.............. Gee whiz. Laurel - a so so competitor who hasn't proven anything individually yet Theresa - worse Mandi - ? Camila - I was impressed with her thus far, and think she is a decent competitor

[QUOTE=jones10389;212545]Is it known which team wins Cutthroat? I've heard Red and Blue and I know Gray didn't win but was there ever confirmation on a winner?[/QUOTE] Emily and Jenn vs. Tori, Brad, Tyler, and Dunbar. I don't think you really need confirmation. I may get in trouble for saying this, but I don't think a team of only girls could ever beat a predominantly male team in the finals (at least when the guys left are all strong). There's usually some element of physical strength, and while I think Emily and Jenn are some of the strongest females there, the red team will be able to finish these tasks faster. Of course it would be great to see the blue team pull off an upset; I just don't see it happening.

I wouldn't say it couldn't happen. KellyAnne and Sarah were leading almost the entire Ruins final mission. Oddly enough they ended up losing because of a balance beam and a puzzle, which is something you would figure they could make up time on as opposed to losing time. They pretty much were ahead with the taks and running. In final missions it's really about managing the weaklings. As cliche as it sounds you really are only as fast as your slowest person.

There's not going to be heavy lifting in the final if one team only has 2 girls. The Ruins was made possible for KA and Sarah to win. I'm sure this final was made possible for Jenn and Emily to win.

[QUOTE=molds13;212565]You have no idea how Chet votes. They don't need his vote to put Mandi in.[/QUOTE] Unless the MTV commercial they showed has been manipulated severly, and I doubt ithow seeing how Mandi is 2nd per your departure list, Chet is shown voting in Mandi. Of course they dont need his vote, they already control 60% or the block with Brad, Tori, Dunbar, Paula, Tyler, and Melinda ............. Chet is just insurance under the mise that he will be safe. I could be wrong, I'm human just like you, but why doesn't Chet see any elimination round prior to his departure when Brandon will have gone in 3 times. Let's face it, Chet isn't a superb competitor or doesn't strike fear imo nor is he of super vet status.............. he's a vote, that's it.

[QUOTE=wwwwhat;212588]Emily and Jenn vs. Tori, Brad, Tyler, and Dunbar. I don't think you really need confirmation. I may get in trouble for saying this, but I don't think a team of only girls could ever beat a predominantly male team in the finals (at least when the guys left are all strong). There's usually some element of physical strength, and while I think Emily and Jenn are some of the strongest females there, the red team will be able to finish these tasks faster. Of course it would be great to see the blue team pull off an upset; I just don't see it happening.[/QUOTE] If it was Emily and perhaps someone like Rachel RR or even Sarah or Tori if they were on the blue team, I'd give them a figting chance. However, with Jenn ..................... no way in hell they have a shot in my opinion unless there is some element that requires you to sit in a cigarette smoke chamber for 10 minutes.

[QUOTE=molds13;212616]Oh, there's an MTV commercial that shows who he votes for?[/QUOTE] Correct theres a commercial of Chet cuddling with Mandy, then voting her in.

I would take less people on my team than having to worry about a ton who might hold me back. I mean, with two people going in the final, you only have so much to worry about. With that being said, there's nobody on the red team that I can see holding the rest of the team back. I bet Tori does great in the final for the simple fact that Brad's there. She'll stay right with him and Dunbar and Tyler are gonna yell at her with Brad right there. While I would love to see Jenn and Emily pull off the upset, I don't see it happening. I do see it being pretty close though. Jenn's tough and won't give up and will drive to win, and I definitely see Emily pushing through and beign a big factor. Only thing I can think of that would give the red team the upperhand is if they have to carry anything or solve something where having mroe people to figure it out will be beneficial. But if it's like the Inferno's final, Jenn and Emily would have a great chance.

Is anyone surprised that Derrick gets voted in before Johnny to go up against Brandon. It worked out in Derrick's favor anyway becuase if Johnny faced Brandon Derrick would of had to face CT