[QUOTE=xajmx90;214454][strike]I think we moved in a new era first it was mean girls then evan and kenny and mean males now its overly cocky females sarah..laurel... evelyn who wanna pick little weak chicks[/strike]
I think we moved on to a new era. First, it was The Mean Girls, then Evan and Kenny (Mean Males). Now, it's overly cocky females ([B]Sarah[/B], Laurel, [B]Evelyn[/B]) who wanna pick on little weak chicks.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I know they can be cocky, but when have Sarah and Evelyn picked on other girls? And from this preview, it's clear that Laurel doesn't leave her bullying to weak girls...she'll go for anyone she can lash out at.
Well, I really hope that Laurel is telling the truth that she did apologize to Easy. I also hope that MTV puts that apology in the episode. It will be good for the younger audience to see her apologize after making a huge mistake.
Own up to how you treat people!!!That was not a mistake, it was vengeful and horrific!!!
Wow, I think this is the most controversy we've seen about an arguement in a while. Just look at how many comments the clip has on Mtv.com, over 70. I've never seen a sneek peek for a challenge episode have that many.
[QUOTE=Entropy;214435]I will agree on something, back in the old days BMP would've stepped in like they did with Ruthie.[/QUOTE]
You mean like they did with Joey only a few seasons ago?
And one of the main reasons they stepped in with Ruthie is because she tried to drive drunk.
[QUOTE=Cait3223;214389]It was hard to watch the preview for next episode.
Laurel- did you first see the clip yourself on Thurs with the rest of us or had you seen it in advance? If not, were you aware they were showing it? Just wondering if you remembered saying those things and if you thought it would be shown.
I think youre making the best out of a horrible thing. Owning up to bad behavior is difficult (we've all been there!). Good luck to you in the future and thanks for showing us how you really feel inside about what happened.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to respond to Cait3223 I don't know if this is the right way, but I quoted you. In response to this note I was watching Episode 2 of Cutthroat on Thurs with Theresa and we saw the sneak peek with a picture of me in the hot tub and clicked it. I couldn't even finish watching it. I turned it off. I didn't remember the extent of what I said. I still haven't watched the full clip. I couldn't. I don't know what I can say and what I can't say about anything really with MTV. I never really know, but I think I can say that I didn't see this clip before anyone else. I have not seen any episodes from this season and I did not know they were going to show me. I figured there was so much other better drama in the house that they wouldn't show anything involving me. There is more to the story then what you see, but I won't even go into detail because it doesn't even matter. I just don't want any young viewers to think that being mean is OK. I would never intentionally try to hurt somebody, but in this instance I did. So I apologized. Because I felt that I was in the wrong, and also I put myself in Eric's position.
Putting Laurel in a category with CT is completely ridiculous. CT is full of rage that he's not afraid to release on someone. He choked out Kenny, punched Davis, punch/chased Adam, and would've fought Wes had they been any closer. Laurel was a verbal abuser. While they're both terrible offenses, Laurel didn't put Big Easy's health/life in danger, CT did. I'd much rather have someone drunkenly pick me apart than have my face mangled from a roid-raged psychotic who can only be tamed by a herd of security guards.
Laurel has apologized numerous times and feels bad about everything she did, so if I was Eric, I would be able to look passed it. If CT ever hit me and tried to apologize, I wouldn't accept it as anything and would never feel safe with him around. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=Laurel;214504]I'm trying to respond to Cait3223 I don't know if this is the right way, but I quoted you.[/QUOTE]
You're on the right track. :D
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[QUOTE=mtv*****;214527]Wait a minute. What is this whole business with Eric? Did I miss something here? I haven't seen the clip of her saying anything to Eric.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2010/10/15/challenge-laurel-eric-big-easy-bullying/]VIDEO: Laurel Calls Big Easy ‘Fat’ And ‘Ugly’ MTV Remote Control Blog[/url]
Ohhh nevermind, I'm watching the clip now and her behavior is gross...Laurel, I don't know if you were made fun of a lot as a kid, so you have this complex where you're still re-living middle-school days 10 years later, or what your deal is, but you have issues. Mentally, you are stuck in middle-school.
I felt so bad for him when he's like, "We came here to hang out..." he seemed so confused.
If there's more to the story, I'd like to hear your side of it, but it doesn't seem like it. As Eric said, you don't even know him, so I can't imagine there's much history between the 2 of you.
[QUOTE=producer88;214258]Hahaha I can't stop looking at this sneak peak...I can't wait! I always said what this challenge is missing is a real bad girl. A strong woman physically, mentally, and has a good mouth to argue back. I wish this Laurel never leaves imo...I want her to continue to be real, and not play the I'm nice (if she isn't). The rest of the world could get over themselves, because we all have a flaw. Laurel be you, and keep cursing some of these people out hahaha.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked this was called the challenge, not the bad girls club. This show isn't about that.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;214267]She isn't even bad. She even came on here to apologize. What she said was offensive and disgusting. Whether Eric is insecure or not about his weight, it's pyschologically damaging. He was really excited about his weight loss, and for someone to take away just a bit of his happiness, and obviously some of his confidence, is wrong. I don't even want to say mean, because I feel it goes beyond mean, it's offensive.
Not every woman is a size 2 and not every man has a 32" waist. I think that's what makes the world great. There is such an epidemic of anorexia and bullemia in Urban and Rural schools because of things Laurel said.[/QUOTE]
There needs to be a love button for this one. CRG you always have such a way with your words, lol.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;214565]Last time I checked this was called the challenge, not the bad girls club. This show isn't about that.[/QUOTE]That's the number one thing I [B] DON'T[/B] enjoy about Cut Throat. After the Laurel/Shauvon, Laurel/Mandy, Theresa/Camilla, and now Laurel/Eric **** the show is coming off more and more as a wannabe Bad Girls Club. If I wanted to watch trashy chicks drink too much and yell at each other I'd turn to Oxygen! Lets focus back on the challenges and things that matter and quit giving camera time to these fools that get drunk and start **** with any and everyone! At least with old school challenge fights like Katie and Veronica or Beth and Tonya there was a buildup to the fight and we really got the backstory and explanation. Now it seems people just get drunk and starts fights with random people every night. LAME.
Yeah. Just watched it again. I could never get past someone for speaking to my girl or my kids like that, so why should I get past her for speaking to anyone like that? It isn't just childish; most middle schoolers aren't even that mean.
For a time I struggled with weight and it absolutely crushed my ability to meet secure, normal women, and made it impossible to "hook up" without being a total *******. Its not something someone wants pointed out to them, and for her to go person by person and say you would never have a chance with these women must have made him realize the deep truth of the matter even more. Its a horrible, horrible, horrible thing to do. You people who are saying its not a big deal or forgiving her for apologizing have clearly never been on the receiving end of something that brutal.
Laurel - I'm glad you're willing to sit and read this thread, it'll help you realize the depth of your error. Learn from this. Please. And if you really want to help Eric, find the poor guy a girlfriend.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;214565]Last time I checked this was called the challenge, not the bad girls club. This show isn't about that.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Laurel should stop doing challlenges, and try to get on Bad Girls' Club. It would actually be a better fit for her. She is absolutely brutal, and she needs to be around girls who are just like her. A good dose of reality is a beautiful thing. It's not just about Eric. The list of people she has verbally abused keeps growing and growing.
[QUOTE=CastAStone;214583][B]You people who are saying its not a big deal or forgiving her for apologizing have clearly never been on the receiving end of something that brutal. [/B][/QUOTE]
Forgiving Laurel or anyone is indeed a big deal. In Christian theology, this is the very essence of the requirement that we be able to forgive, for it is in the deepest moment of our pain that we achieve something greater than ourselves in the act of forgiveness.
[FONT="Arial Narrow"][SIZE="2"][I]"When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it. We look the evil full in the face, call it what it is, let its horror shock and stun and enrage us, and only then do we forgive it."
Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive & Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve[/I][/SIZE][/FONT]
[QUOTE=V1man;214616]Forgiving Laurel or anyone is indeed a big deal. In Christian theology, this is the very essence of the requirement that we be able to forgive, for it is in the deepest moment of our pain that we achieve something greater than ourselves in the act of forgiveness.
[FONT="Arial Narrow"][SIZE="2"][I]"When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it. We look the evil full in the face, call it what it is, let its horror shock and stun and enrage us, and only then do we forgive it."
Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive & Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
Amen V1, very well put.
I'll be honest, I'm not gonna sit here and bash Laurel and say shes an evil ***** bla bla bla. I already said what I thought and most everyone seems to have the same opinion. However regardless of what Laurel said, whoever thinks that **** is hilarious and is excited to watch makes me wonder what the **** is wrong with people in this world.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;214641]I'll be honest, I'm not gonna sit here and bash Laurel and say shes an evil ***** bla bla bla. I already said what I thought and most everyone seems to have the same opinion. However regardless of what Laurel said, whoever thinks that **** is hilarious and is excited to watch makes me wonder what the **** is wrong with people in this world.[/QUOTE]
It really hurts to see how she attacked Big Easy who was excited about losing a lot of weight. I agree with you, it's messed up that people enjoy this, it's like taking candy from a baby.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;214618]Amen V1, very well put.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I know not everyone has the same beliefs, and I respect that, but it is a big deal in the sense V1 spoke of it. That post can help people understand how others make the decision to forgive (a decision that is definitely not easy, even for the strongest of faith or the nicest of people - it can take a long time). Also, there is the whole "forgive if you want to be forgiven" thing.
I can definitely understand why Eric wouldn't accept the apology, though (not to say that he may not come around, because he could in the future). And I can understand how viewers are still upset, especially because we haven't even seen the full episode. My impression of Laurel from the challenges is still pretty much the same so far, but I think it's great that she has apologized. A step in the right direction. And of course it's easier for me to deal with, because I was not on the receiving end. I don't even think she had to apologize to the fans (just needed to address Eric and her peers, IMO), but I thought it was a nice gesture that she did, since a lot of people are upset with her.
I think everyone can and has the right to be forgiven, in due time. It not right to judge people based on what you see on TV, that being said, she did say all those things to big easy, and can never take them back. Big Easy has to forgive her, not us and although, I do believe people should be given a second chance, I also believe sometimes it takes a little time for some people to forgive another person.
Like I said, what she said was more offensive than anything else. It wasn't only offensive to Big Easy, but heavier set people. It's one of those things which is kind of shocking. It's over and done with, and the only apology that counts is Big Easy.
[QUOTE=SPK713;214301]aka Kissing ***. :)[/QUOTE]
First off I didn't kiss anyone's ***. You don't know me or the type of person I am. Secondly, if you read my other post there are many Vevmo castmembers who are part of the show, and I clearly dislike, but I can't say nothing negative to them because of the rules. There's only one person who I "over-praise" at times, but that's besides the point. Laurel even stated she isn't happy for her actions, and I'm pretty sure she won't support a post that said it was entertaining or funny.
I'm just stating my opinion on the situation and I found it entertaining. Tj I know this isn't the Bad Girls Club, but the show is missing drama and frankly Laurel knows how to bring it. My generation (well the majority) only watch to see the fights.
I love fights as much as the next person, but there are 4 things I don't find funny in any situation. They are making fun of race, ***, gender, or disability status when another person isn't in on the joke. Laurel is just rude and ignorant.
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