[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;217956]Put that out there? You act like I said I had proof or something. He even jokes about it in one of the dailies. So what if he is or isnt? It's not like I said "Ty is in the closet and should burn!!!"
It's my opinion based on what I've seen.[/QUOTE]
You have an opinion and are entitled to it; however I was just pointing out that your opinion was just assessed on a few minutes of footage on a website.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217964]If blue loses Ty is going in no matter what. Pay your dues.[/QUOTE]
The thing is he should've been going in last week or even the week before that but Johnny is a complete moron who had it out for Eric and decided to keep Ty... idiotic move. Johnny just thinks he's a leader but if Blue loses this challenge it's probably because Johnny was calling the shots. Derrick should have been the leader from day one but it seems D just wants to take a backseat nowadays.
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;217972]The bad thing is he should've been going in last week or even the week before that but Johnny is a complete moron who had it out for Eric and decided to keep Ty... idiotic move. Johnny just thinks he's a leader but if Blue loses this challenge it's probably because Johnny was calling the shots. [B]Derrick should have been the leader from day one but it seems D just wants to take a backseat nowadays.[/B][/QUOTE]
He's been winning since then. So, I guess D is doing something right.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217973]He's been winning since then. So, I guess [B]D is doing [/B][B]something right.[/B][/QUOTE]
I never said he wasn't, but Derrick should've stepped up and said Ty has been completely sucky or however he wants to put it and he should've done it right there in front of the whole Blue team. Derrick seen first hand how bad Ty was in the stampede challenge or whatever it was. It was clear Ty should've went in... especially last week. I get it Eric blew the win for the Veterans on G3 but even if Johnny wanted to get rid of Eric why not wait until closer to the end ??
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;217975]I never said he wasn't, but Derrick should've stepped up and said Ty has been completely sucky or however he wants to put it and he should've done it right there in front of the whole Blue team. Derrick seen first hand how bad Ty was in the stampede challenge or whatever it was. It was clear Ty should've went in... especially last week. I get it Eric blew the win for the Veterans on G3 but even if Johnny wanted to get rid of Eric why not wait until closer to the end ??[/QUOTE]
That's been the only challenge he's screwed up so far. Since he is a rookie that should have been the reason why he went in. I'm sure his time will come.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217977][B]That's been the only challenge he's screwed up so far. [/B][B]Since he is a rookie that should have been the reason why he went in. [/B]I'm sure his time will come.[/QUOTE]
Him and Johnny messed things up on the challenge before last. I guess I should've said compared to what Eric has done the last two weeks Ty's been real bad. And I agree with the rookie thing, definitely.
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;217980]Him and Johnny messed things up on the challenge before last. I guess I should've said compared to what Eric has done the last two weeks he's been real bad. And I agree with the rookie thing, definitely.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about the challenge with the beer steins and they were hanging upside down. If so, he did good on that one. Blue won that challenge as a matter a fact.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217981]Are you talking about the challenge with the beer steins and they were hanging upside down. If so, he did good on that one. Blue won that challenge as a matter a fact.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm talking about the challenge the Red team won (their first win). The challenge Shauvon quit on and Katie got a black on from hitting the water. It was when the whole team had to jump across these platforms above the water or something like that.
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;217982]No, I'm talking about the challenge the Red team won (their first win). The challenge Shauvon quit on and Katie got a black on from hitting the water. It was when the whole team had to jump across these platforms above the water or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Johnny kinda screwed that one up because he jumped before Ty's hand were off of the bed. Bottle Neck Stampede is the only challenge he messed up on. Therefore like we said he should have went in and gave Easy a break.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217984][B]Johnny kinda screwed that one up[/B] because he jumped before Ty's hand were off of the bed. Bottle Neck Stampede is the only challenge he messed up on. Therefore like we said he should have went in and gave Easy a break.[/QUOTE]
Ty played a role in the error as well but it was definitely more on Johnny on that challenge. Of course Johnny screwing up there and his bad decisions with the Eric/ Ty stuff backs up my "He's not a leader" theory even more.
[QUOTE=rey2pokey;217964]If blue loses Ty is going in no matter what. Pay your dues.[/QUOTE]
See I don't understand this whole "Pay your Dues" garbage. This is a game where money is on the line. Why sit there and try to "Prove that you belong" Who are any of them to say who belongs there or not and why should anyone have to prove anything? In the long run this game is about politics. People are gonna end up trying to keep their freinds and *** buddies around anyways. who's to say that once you prove that your strong. They'll just throw you in the elimination round so that they don't risk they're buds (or themselvs)going home?
Oh and In my opinion Ty isn't that bad of a competitor. He's just a Rookie so they pick on him. Yes Eric did well in that mission but one good preformance doesn't overshadow the fact that he was a liability. The Blue Team was right in sending him into the Gulag.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;217990]See I don't understand this whole "Pay your Dues" garbage. This is a game where money is on the line. Why sit there and try to "Prove that you belong" Who are any of them to say who belongs there or not and why should anyone have to prove anything? In the long run this game is about politics. People are gonna end up trying to keep their freinds and *** buddies around anyways. who's to say that once you prove that your strong. They'll just throw you in the elimination round so that they don't risk they're buds (or themselvs)going home?
Oh and In my opinion Ty isn't that bad of a competitor.[B] He's just a Rookie so they[/B][B] pick on him.[/B] Yes Eric did well in that mission but one good preformance doesn't overshadow the fact that he was a liability. The Blue Team was right in sending him into the Gulag.[/QUOTE]
It could be worse for Ty... most rookies that screw up on two missions in a row get put up for elimination before a vet would. Ty's just lucky he's got the village idiot running his team. Yes, put Eric up for elimination but save him for an elimination closer to the end even if it's just a week closer.
Honestly I don't think Ty gets picked on. If he got picked on, then Eric would still be around. I think they're treating him pretty well for a rookie even though he underperforms.
[QUOTE=AEvans5;218007]Honestly I don't think Ty gets picked on. If he got picked on, then Eric would still be around. I think they're treating him pretty well for a rookie even though he underperforms.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree... Who is picking on him? He's not really getting picked on so much! He should have been put in the Gulag.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;217990]See I don't understand this whole "Pay your Dues" garbage. This is a game where money is on the line. Why sit there and try to "Prove that you belong" Who are any of them to say who belongs there or not and why should anyone have to prove anything? In the long run this game is about politics. People are gonna end up trying to keep their freinds and *** buddies around anyways. who's to say that once you prove that your strong. They'll just throw you in the elimination round so that they don't risk they're buds (or themselvs)going home?
Oh and In my opinion Ty isn't that bad of a competitor. He's just a Rookie so they pick on him. Yes Eric did well in that mission but one good preformance doesn't overshadow the fact that he was a liability. The Blue Team was right in sending him into the Gulag.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, "vets" outnumber rookies, so it's easy to pick on them. Plus, no one is really aware of what the rookies are capable of. Yes, it would make sense to send in the people who are KNOWN (or at least perceived) anchors, which means Katie and Eric would be the logical choice in Johnny's mind (not that I agree with sending them in, just defending why for him it was a good move). Once the people you know are bad are gone, then you HAVE to pick someone. Would you rather risk losing someone who you know can pull their own weight and is an asset, or someone whose abilities you just don't know? In a game like this, that unknown could be a huge risk.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;218023][B]The thing is, "vets" outnumber rookies[/B], so it's easy to pick on them. Plus, no one is really aware of what the rookies are capable of. Yes, it would make sense to send in the people who are KNOWN (or at least perceived) anchors, which means Katie and Eric would be the logical choice in Johnny's mind (not that I agree with sending them in, just defending why for him it was a good move). Once the people you know are bad are gone, then you HAVE to pick someone. Would you rather risk losing someone who you know can pull their own weight and is an asset, or someone whose abilities you just don't know? In a game like this, that unknown could be a huge risk.[/QUOTE]
Actually...this challenge, it was the other way around.
[QUOTE=molds13;218026]Actually...this challenge, it was the other way around.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and that's what I hate the most about this challenge...The Rookies outnumber the Vets but yet the Rookies are dropping like flies. The Rookies need to start banning together and knocking off these vets instead of just cowtowing to them. That has NEVER happend on these things. And it sucks to watch.
[QUOTE=molds13;218026]Actually...this challenge, it was the other way around.[/QUOTE]
Sorry--I meant completely new to challenges, not rookies in the sense that they have fewer than two challenges under their belts.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;218030]Yeah and that's what I hate the most about this challenge...The Rookies outnumber the Vets but yet the Rookies are dropping like flies. The Rookies need to start banning together and knocking off these vets instead of just cowtowing to them. That has NEVER happend on these things. And it sucks to watch.[/QUOTE]
Overall they outnumber but on certain teams vets outnumber rookies, and on the team it doesn't they shouldn't risk the vet guy.
Red vets: Brad, Tori, Tyler, Paula, Dunbar, Melinda
Red Rookies: Camila, Chet, Brandon, Mandi
Here Vets out number rookies so they have no chance.
Blue Vets: Jenn, Katie, Eric, Derrick, Johnny
Blue Rookies: Emilee, Derek, Ty, Emily, Theresa
As we have seen blue isn't afraid to sacrifice vets by sending in Katie and Eric twice already.
Grey Vets: Sarah, Abram, Shauvon
Grey Rookies: Luke, Dan, Laurel, CaraMaria, Vinny, Aiiya, JD
Now Grey team is the only team who has more rookies than vets, and apart from Shauvon rookies have gone each time. Male wise I don't blame them cause if they send in Abram they are idiots.
[QUOTE=gjams24;218059]He reminds so much of Johnnie from the original Fresh Meat as a competitor, really athletic, but hasn't done well at any of the challenges.[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen much of his athleticism, if any.
[QUOTE=RMD1;217883]That is very true.
I would like to know what his sexual orientation is. lol[/QUOTE]
he's straight, hence his obsession with emily.
he REALLY creeps me out. I normally don't dislike cast members, I can find almost anyone entertaining, but I was relieved when he left tonight.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;218458]I honestly would have loved to see him at the end of the Duel 2 or FM2. You need Stamina... What the **** happened to him at the end?[/QUOTE]
I am guessing that physically it was just a lack of stamina---buff guys sometimes crash quickly because they stay half-starved, half-dehydrated to keep from looking bloated. Mentally, it seemed more to me like, "Hey, my body is giving out and I am going to lose, so let's do something dramatic so it will look more like a one time thing and not that I am a paper tiger."
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;218458]I honestly would have loved to see him at the end of the Duel 2 or FM2. You need Stamina... What the **** happened to him at the end?[/QUOTE]
He would have been swept away by the river if he was in the Duel 2 final.
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