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[QUOTE=Buck05;218380]In the Ep. 6 Sneak Peek - it's very, very obvious the other girls on the Red Team are just now reaching for reasons to keep sending Camila in. I'm shocked at how serious Brad and Tori took that. I don't really see what Camila did wrong, to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. If Camila would have come up to me and said that, I would have kept it in mind and possibly used it for voting for her in the future - you know, kill or be killed in the game. So I don't blame Tori or Brad for that (though every time?). However, I do agree that it was pretty odd how mad they got at her. I don't get why Camila told them, though. Wasn't necessary. Unless she wants to play head games with them. Maybe she did. She could have been upset at them about the Johnny thing. I wonder how Brad supposedly stuck up for her, since he seemed to be the main one again her hanging with John.
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Tonight's challenge was sick. I would love to do that.
Ty was... pathetic. Felt bad for Katie. Didn't want her to go, but even if she stayed, she knew she would be going in every time. Katie never quit or DQ'ed and she did pretty well.
Jenn and Sarah rocked it for the females.
Chet looked like a ghost.
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Wow. Ty reminds me so much of RWSeattle Stephen-- crazy eyes, ashy skin, "I'm not gay!", and completely out of his mind. Was there ever any mention in his season about Ty being abused as a child? So much hatred and self-loathing in this guy. He's also socially backwards and clueless, paranoid, narcissistic, and unhinged. There's something seriously wrong with him.
Which means we will probably see him again.
I was so happy to see Sarah and Laurel get the fastest time and smoke the men! This is why I hope they get their personal **** together and become more likeable, because we need more kick-*** women on these shows, and I want to be able to root for kick-*** women on these shows.
I felt so bad for Dan. It must be extremely hard to hold back in this environment, and bravo to him for his honesty and good nature about his struggle. I also find him charming and absolutely yummy. And never did I think I'd ever say this about the guy after the Bobby & Whitney he and Robin pulled on the Island.
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[QUOTE=Matty;218413]
I felt so bad for Dan. It must be extremely hard to hold back in this environment, and bravo to him for his honesty and good nature about his struggle. I also find him charming and absolutely yummy. And never did I think I'd ever this about the guy after the Bobby & Whitney he and Robin pulled on the Island.[/QUOTE]
what do you mean by that? robin and him hooked up? i didn't watch the Island. guess maybe I should have!
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[QUOTE=JustAGurl;218417]What do you mean by that? Robin and him hooked up? I didn't watch the Island. Guess maybe I should have![/QUOTE]
I think they did....but I respect Dan! He's a strong person!
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This was by far the most entertaining episode. Say whatever you want to say about Ty, but he made this episode classic. We are definitely going to be seeing him in more and more challenges. He's like a Karamo X2. Even his exit was memorable.
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I don't think I've ever seen a worse male competitor since Laterrian and Danny Dias. Ty sure proved me wrong. I will concur with everyone else, his idiocy is entertaining TV. :D
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[QUOTE]What do you mean by that? Robin and him hooked up? I didn't watch the Island. Guess maybe I should have![/QUOTE]
Yes, and their hook-up was one of the worst and uncomfortable to watch Challenge trainwrecks ever IMO. Constantly drunk (and I suspect other things, given Robin's state of mind and speech, but that's only my thought/opinion, not a proven fact) and constantly fighting, only to make up aaaaaand have another drink to get more drunk to celebrate the making up.
I'm so glad Dan pulled himself together, and I hope Robin did as well.
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Did anyone else notice, that in the beginning, they no longer show cast members that were sent home? I remember watching old Challenges, how annoyed I was seeing the beginning and saying to myself, "your gone, your gone.."
Also, has anyone seen the sneak peek for next weeks episode?
[URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/593495/walking-target.jhtml#id=1651420"]Walking Target | Video | MTV[/URL]
Tori on the little psycho side? Felt like I was watching Jersey Shore for a minute. Might have saw a couple grenades in there.
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[QUOTE=r3iKo;218431]Did anyone else notice, that in the beginning, they new longer show cast members that were sent home? I remember watching old Challenges, how annoyed I was seeing the beginning and saying to myself, "your gone, your gone.."
Also, has anyone seen the sneak peek for next weeks episode?
[url=http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/593495/walking-target.jhtml#id=1651420]Walking Target | Video | MTV[/url]
Tori on the little psycho side? Felt like I was watching Jersey Shore for a minute. Might have saw a couple grenades in there.[/QUOTE]
Great episode. The blue team has no fat left to trim, not good. Ty's performance was...... wow. Katie is awesome she did good and she proved a lot to me because she gave it her all.
I've watched the sneak peek and I think that was a bad move on Camila's part but the way Tori, Brad, and Paula reacted was unnecessary in my opinion. If Camila goes in again which I think she will in the end it's her fault only because she picked Brad and Tori to be on her team. That's two definite votes against her. I root for the underdogs so I hope Camila kicks some ***!
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[QUOTE=r3iKo;218431]Did anyone else notice, that in the beginning, they no longer show cast members that were sent home? I remember watching old Challenges, how annoyed I was seeing the beginning and saying to myself, "your gone, your gone.."
Also, has anyone seen the sneak peek for next weeks episode?
[URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/593495/walking-target.jhtml#id=1651420"]Walking Target | Video | MTV[/URL]
Tori on the little psycho side? Felt like I was watching Jersey Shore for a minute. Might have saw a couple grenades in there.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you, Tori got a little psycho. She seems MORE ****** off than Brad is.
But that was a stupid move on Camila's part. What was she thinking?
But I also think they are just looking for an excuse to keep sending her into the Gulag.
Then again, if I'd been trying to defend someone and then they said they voted for me, I'd be annoyed, too, and probably not wanna defend them, either.
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Can't remember who it was but whoever said brandon was going to embarass ty in the gulag gave false info. In fact, ty could've won that. Brandon was going to lose and even he knew it. I like brandon, don't get me wrong, but ty was giving him a run. I'm still in question on what happened..I guess it's like johnny said on his twitter, 'the dude is athletic, he just has the stamina of an asthmatic!'
Also, in the aftershow of ep.5, I found it kinda disturbing that dunbar mention about an african-american stereotype when talking about brandon's incident. And what was even more disturbing was sarah and laurel saying 'I was thinking the same' comment. I'm starting to think these people are borderline racist..
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[QUOTE=iWONDER;218440][B]Can't remember who it was but whoever said brandon was going to embarass ty in the gulag gave false info.[/B] In fact, ty could've won that. Brandon was going to lose and even he knew it. I like brandon, don't get me wrong, but ty was giving him a run. I'm still in question on what happened..I guess it's like johnny said on his twitter, 'the dude is athletic, he just has the stamina of an asthmatic!'[/QUOTE]
Oh, so what. I got one minor detail wrong. Sue me.
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[QUOTE=iWONDER;218440][B]Can't remember who it was but whoever said brandon was going to embarass ty in the gulag gave false info[/B]. In fact, ty could've won that. Brandon was going to lose and even he knew it. I like brandon, don't get me wrong, but ty was giving him a run. I'm still in question on what happened..I guess it's like johnny said on his twitter, 'the dude is athletic, he just has the stamina of an asthmatic!'
[B]Also, in the aftershow of ep.5, I found it kinda disturbing that dunbar mention about an african-american stereotype when talking about brandon's incident. And what was even more disturbing was sarah and laurel saying 'I was thinking the same' comment. I'm starting to think these people are borderline racist..[/B][/QUOTE]
Not exactly false info. Ty sunk like a stone in the Gulag, and who was he against? Brandon. Brandon pushed him over the ropes and the kid looked like he went into a coma.
I understand what you are saying, but Brandon said in his confessional, he doesn't help the Black stereotype by quitting in water. It wasn't as if Dunbar said something out of the blue. And lets face it, everyone has stereotypes. Is it wrong? Absolutely! Will it change? No. I don't think they are racist, maybe a bit immature or uneducated, but not racist.
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[QUOTE=molds13;218447]Oh, so what. I got one minor detail wrong. Sue me.[/QUOTE]
Not that serious.[spoiler] Just saying maybe like this, the CT humiliate johnny is an over exaggeration. I think people (even myself) think CT is a beast because of his fighting reputation but when I sat down and thought about it I've never seen CT in a physical elimination round so I'm interested to see him in one. Either or, we'll see..[/spoiler]
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;218457]
Not exactly false info. Ty sunk like a stone in the Gulag, and who was he against? Brandon. Brandon pushed him over the ropes and the kid looked like he went into a coma.
I understand what you are saying, but Brandon said in his confessional, he doesn't help the Black stereotype by quitting in water. It wasn't as if Dunbar said something out of the blue. And lets face it, everyone has stereotypes. Is it wrong? Absolutely! Will it change? No. I don't think they are racist, maybe a bit immature or uneducated, but not racist.[/QUOTE]
Ty did bad at the end but he was winning. I'm still puzzled on what happened to him but everybody, even brandon, was saying he(brandon) was going to lose. I just wish brandon would've beaten him legitimately so he could have that under his belt. I can see brandon becoming a good competitor in the future.
And I didn't say they are completely racist but just borderline by the way they said it. I don't know I've kind of always felt that from certain cast mates. Not a lot though. But you're absolutely correct that the stereotypes won't change. I mean some are funny, some are cruel. Just hearing this one was kind of weird and disturbing. Or maybe it's just the way dunbar speaks..
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[QUOTE=iWONDER;218462]Not that serious.[spoiler] Just saying maybe like this, the CT humiliate johnny is an over exaggeration. I think people (even myself) think CT is a beast because of his fighting reputation but when I sat down and thought about it I've never seen CT in a physical elimination round so I'm interested to see him in one. Either or, we'll see..[/spoiler][/QUOTE]
Everyone has different opinions of what embarrassing is. I considered Ty's loss to be pretty embarrassing.
I will say this though: I heard about Ty being embarrassed from one source; I heard about your second comment from multiple people.
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[QUOTE=iWONDER;218462],,,,,And I didn't say they are completely racist but just borderline by the way they said it. I don't know I've kind of always felt that from certain cast mates. Not a lot though. But you're absolutely correct that the stereotypes won't change. I mean some are funny, some are cruel. Just hearing this one was kind of weird and disturbing. Or maybe it's just the way dunbar speaks..[/QUOTE]
Could also just be he is not as guarded with someone he knows. Friends of different races or religions sometimes use otherwise inappropriate references with each other in a joking way. That might roll over to the way they talk about the friends I guess to maybe poke at them if they see the interview.
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I was happy that Ty lost in the gulag (sp?) because now if the blue team loses, Johnny or Derrick have to go in. Although with Katie gone, they don't have a lot of weak competitors (I would say Theresa would be their weakest link).
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I don't understand why TJ called the gulag over so quick between Ty & Brandon. Usually if a player is down, or injured they are given time to recover.
I wish Ty would have won, because he was probably the most entertaining ******* this season. lol
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On twitter last night someone mentioned that Ty was on the floor for a lot longer than they showed on tv, which makes sense as they do have 1 hour to work with.
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[QUOTE=iWONDER;218440]Can't remember who it was but whoever said brandon was going to embarass ty in the gulag gave false info. In fact, ty could've won that. Brandon was going to lose and even he knew it. I like brandon, don't get me wrong, but ty was giving him a run. I'm still in question on what happened..I guess it's like johnny said on his twitter, 'the dude is athletic, he just has the stamina of an asthmatic!'
Also, in the aftershow of ep.5, I found it kinda disturbing that dunbar mention about an african-american stereotype when talking about brandon's incident. And what was even more disturbing was sarah and laurel saying 'I was thinking the same' comment. I'm starting to think these people are borderline racist..[/QUOTE]
Well, as much as I don't care for Laurel, I blame her ignorance more than anything else. I don't think she's racist. There has been a few times that she was all snuggly with Brandon.
Dunbar is just an idiot from Mississippi. Enough said. I spent enough time there and ran across people like him all the time.
As far as Ty is concerned, for all of you that laugh at his performance, yor are failing to look at the intent of what he did. The same mistake jackals like Dunbar, Laurel, and the other competitors did. His out was a bit bizarre, but who wants to hear another TJ quitter speech.
[B][I]Ty quit because he knew if had won this time, he was going in every time the blue team lost. Johhny and Derricks past speaks for itself. On top of that they have Jenn on their team too. Another one who hides behind voting as opposed to proving herself. He did the same thing imo that Evelyn did on the Ruins, except he and Brandon wasn't that close. I give Ty this, he outsmarted alot of people. This forces the blue teams hand the next time they lose ..... Johnny of Derrick will have to go in! One of the smartest and wildly bizarre moves in the history of the challenge.[/I][/B]
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[QUOTE=Darock1713;218569]Well, as much as I don't care for Laurel, I blame her ignorance more than anything else. I don't think she's racist. There has been a few times that she was all snuggly with Brandon.
Dunbar is just an idiot from Mississippi. Enough said. I spent enough time there and ran across people like him all the time.
As far as Ty is concerned, for all of you that laugh at his performance, yor are failing to look at the intent of what he did. The same mistake jackals like Dunbar, Laurel, and the other competitors did. His out was a bit bizarre, but who wants to hear another TJ quitter speech.
[B][I]Ty quit because he knew if had won this time, he was going in every time the blue team lost. Johhny and Derricks past speaks for itself. On top of that they have Jenn on their team too. Another one who hides behind voting as opposed to proving herself. He did the same thing imo that Evelyn did on the Ruins, except he and Brandon wasn't that close. I give Ty this, he outsmarted alot of people. This forces the blue teams hand the next time they lose ..... Johnny of Derrick will have to go in! One of the smartest and wildly bizarre moves in the history of the challenge.[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
Who said that paragraph in bold? His elimination was nothing like Evelyn's. Evelyn proved without a doubt that she OWNED Kelly Anne. Ty proved that he can be explosively strong, but lacks (or didn't show he had any) endurance, which honestly just backs up what we saw on the last two missions.
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[QUOTE=Moonpaw;218572]Who said that paragraph in bold? His elimination was nothing like Evelyn's. Evelyn proved without a doubt that she OWNED Kelly Anne. Ty proved that he can be explosively strong, but lacks (or didn't show he had any) endurance, which honestly just backs up what we saw on the last two missions.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, KellyAnne was NOT beating Ev. Ev literally stood on the platform, not even moving or trying at all, and KellyAnne couldn't move her. Brandon actually put up a good fight the second time around in the Gulag and like you said, Ty had some extremely weak endurance. Brandon tired him out and knocked him on the ground. I doubt Ty just gave up and quit on purpose. Even if he did have to go in later, he was either gonna win and make the final or get sent home, so why would he leave then and lose to someone he didn't even like?
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My personal favorite part of Sarah and Laurel posting the best time was how Sarah completely dominated. I wonder what the results would have been like if they had gone individually.
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Yeah the editing always screws with opinions of how things went down. But like said above, with only an hour and still another Gulag to show, they had to cut it to pretty much nothing. And depending on how long they actually gave Ty before they DQed him, how were they to know if he was actually hurt the first time around rather than just trying to get more energy. But that didn't matter by the time they were giving Brandon his second point because it was obvious Ty really wasn't in it anymore.
It's like the Derek vs. Brandon Gulag. I was told they threw each other out of bounds numerous times just to get a break while resetting.
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After seeing the Confessional, if what Dunbar and Paula said about Camilia during the Surf's Up mission is true..I lost all respect for her and I don't care if Tori calls her out next time.
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[QUOTE=Entropy;218499]After seeing the Confessional, if what Dunbar and Paula said about Camilia during the Surf's Up mission is true..I lost all respect for her and I don't care if Tori calls her out next time.[/QUOTE]
The Confessional bored me after 2 second, so I didn't get to know what they say about Camila. What happened?
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I find it interesting that TJ said that the blue team's vote was unanimous for Katie and Ty, when the Daily clearly shows Theresa voting for Emily.
[QUOTE=Hamahami;218504]The Confessional bored me after 2 second, so I didn't get to know what they say about Camila. What happened?[/QUOTE]
They said she was trying to make herself throw up while people were tending to Chet.
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[QUOTE=molds13;218505]I find it interesting that TJ said that the blue team's vote was unanimous for Katie and Ty, when the Daily clearly shows Theresa voting for Emily.
They said she was trying to make herself throw up while people were tending to Chet.[/QUOTE]
TJ says what he is told to say. Sometimes the people who select and post the dailies don't pay as much attention to the final cut episode as do the rabid and often more intelligent viewers.
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That's really interesting, I don't watch the dailies... Theresa goes up one notch in my book. I'm glad it was unanimously for Katie. I wonder why Theresa said Emily's name when it was clearly going to be katie.
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Ty is like the LT for this generation of challengers. Bat**** crazy and terrible at the missions, despite looking athletic. Also, both are/were completely delusional.
Oh and isn't this like the 4th mission Cara Maria has done poorly in?
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Theresa impressed me this episode. Camila, Sarah and Luke performed better than I thought. Emily is kinda disappointing a little bit. CM can't swim. Ty sucks !!!
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[QUOTE=Hamahami;218517]Theresa impressed me this episode. Camila, Sarah and Luke performed better than I thought. Emily is kinda disappointing a little bit. CM can't swim. Ty sucks !!![/QUOTE]
LOL pretty much. I'll be honest, Cara Maria is really disappointing me. I thought she would come back from her FM 2 loss a lot tougher, and she really hasn't shown me much. Now that Shauvon and Ayiiia are gone, she's at the bottom of the totem pole again. As for Emily...maybe swimming just isn't her thing. I haven't really seen her screw up anything else yet, and it would be nice to see another somewhat individual-based mission at some point. That's why I really liked the format of I3, even if the season itself wasn't super exciting.
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[QUOTE=mph922;218514]Ty is like the LT for this generation of challengers. Bat**** crazy and terrible at the missions, despite looking athletic. Also, both are/were completely delusional.
Oh and isn't this like the 4th mission Cara Maria has done poorly in?[/QUOTE]
Yes, CM has consistently done no so well on the missions. She did cross the finish line first on that last one, though. However, it does sound like some of the guys were trying to block the other teams (Abram kept talking about how he was messing with people), and I don't really know if the other girls had been trapped and rescued after CM. I think she has potential (because of the FM2 test), but she hasn't really shown much ability in missions yet. A number of people can't swim, so I wouldn't hold that against her overall competitive ability, but it's just another mission that she didn't do so well on, so it doesn't paint the best picture of her. I can't consider her a strong or decent competitor yet.
LT is a pretty good comparison for Ty. I'll mix Karamo in there as well, just because he once said something about liking to be devious and mess with people, though he said something good takes over him. I think Karamo is a better person, though, from what I've seen. I actually really like him now.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;218515]Am I the only one who thinks the Red team is being super fake? Not in their happiness that Camila and Brandon came back (so they can be thrown in YET AGAIN), but rather that they act like they actually like those two and are all part of the team. And why are Camila and Brandon soaking it up? They should know by now they're just going to go in again![/QUOTE]
I do think they try to make it seem like they want them there. Perhaps some of them do want Brandon there, but they are not so cool with Camila because of her association with John.
I think they like to have someone to be able to throw in, so their alliance members are saved. I understand that. But I just don't like it when someone acts like they aren't going to vote the same the next time (i.e. Brad telling Brandon he probably won't go in earlier in an episode), yet they know they will still vote the same way.
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Am I the only one who thinks the Red team is being super fake? Not in their happiness that Camila and Brandon came back (so they can be thrown in YET AGAIN), but rather that they act like they actually like those two and are all part of the team. And why are Camila and Brandon soaking it up? They should know by now they're just going to go in again!
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Jenn was quite impressive tonight. I didn't know she could swim well. Johnny and Derrick scored 2:55 while she and Emily did 3:06, but Jenn did have to wait for Emily for quite a while for what seemed like it could've been 10 seconds.
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This episode was hilarious and that elimination round was a fail for Ty lol!. Even if one is "gassed" out or drained dosent mean you cant move your legs or arms lol total academy award moment or a oscar like Paula said lol.
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I really like Camila.. I have like her from the Spring Break Challenge (yes, I did see it..) even though she is a little kooky and seem to be making baby steps towards been a drama queen, she is a gamer, tries to do her best always, and (maybe because of her naivety) tries to play the game straight.. Having said that, I think her innocence will be her downfall.. Before the vote she should have said:
“Look, I have already gone to the gulag, proven myself and paid my dues.. and I did not screw up on the last challenge.. is time for someone else to go in if we are really a team.. if you vote me in, and I return I will throw every single challenge, until you get rid of me, so it will cost 20 k each time you send me in, and maybe 1 or more of the boys”
So, at least they will think twice about been fair to her.
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I would have liked the "your immune the next week rule too". For red team I think this is how it would have gone- Camila, then Melinda, then Camila, then Melinda again. Unless of course they knew that Katie was going in and they sent in Tori or Paula for the easy win, but I don't know if they would have taken that risk. I also think Tori has more of an alliance with Melinda than Paula, so that might come into affect too.
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Even Evelyn did more than stand there and let Kelly Anne strain and pull. She calmly pulled Kelly Anne off twice, with full control. She left absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind that she she could have physically dominated Kelly Anne, and said that she could have come back and thrown every mission and chose not to.
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How does TY losing cause he was afraid of going in every time make any sense? When Eric lost he knew that was the next play, had he dominated Brandon like he was at the start, no one would've stopped him in the Gulag, he lost cause he gassed out..which I found funny that he said Brandon was gassed out too, something he possibly couldn't have known.
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[QUOTE=Entropy;218599]How does TY losing cause he was afraid of going in every time make any sense? When Eric lost he knew that was the next play, had he dominated Brandon like he was at the start, no one would've stopped him in the Gulag, he lost cause he gassed out..[B]which I found funny that he said Brandon was gassed out too,[/B] something he possibly couldn't have known.[/QUOTE]
I found it funny because Brandon was really ready to go and no where near gassed out it seemed.
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