Cutthroat: Real World/ Road Rules Challenge - Speculation (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=jones10389;222008]If the next episodes Gulag game is back up off me that means for the final Gulag it would be either swat or the pole push game am i right?[/QUOTE] I think Molds said it was a completely new Gulag...

Tyler beat Derrick ... big whoop !! Derrick already beat him on The Duel so Tyler just got his revenge and they're all even now, that's how I see it.

I froze the clip. The announcer says something like,"Coming up during the rest of the Cutthroat season...". The guy with Tina is obviously Tina. I froze the video and it was CTs face. CT is taller and stockier than Kenny. Kenny is a skinny olive skinned Italian dude with greasy hair. He really should be on Jersey shore. I hope CT kicks Johnny Bananas *** in the pole event.

[QUOTE=molds13;221952]Check the spoiler thread for more info, it confirms that Abram is the other gray member to not finish the final and confirms that [B]Tyler beat Derrick. Start packing your bags, Darock[/B].[/QUOTE] Fantastic!! I'm glad to hear it actually does happen. ;)

Abram doesn't finish the final challenge? Does he receive the money despite that?

[QUOTE=EPluribusUnum;222069]Abram doesn't finish the final challenge? Does he receive the money despite that?[/QUOTE] I was wondering the same thing...If they don't finish/win the final challenge, I'm assuming the teams split the money they've each banked and each team gets an additional portion from the final gulag?..If you follow any of them or facebook or twitter, a lot of them have been traveling and seem to be living it up. Definitely seemed like a lucrative challenge for those who made it to the final..upwards of $20,000 a piece per person who made it to the final!!

[QUOTE=kw713;222077]I was wondering the same thing...If they don't finish/win the final challenge, I'm assuming the teams split the money they've each banked and each team gets an additional portion from the final gulag?..If you follow any of them or facebook or twitter, a lot of them have been traveling and seem to be living it up. Definitely seemed like a lucrative challenge for those who made it to the final..upwards of $20,000 a piece per person who made it to the final!![/QUOTE] They definitely still get the money even if they don't finish. Jenn and Noor didn't complete the final on Fresh Meat 2 and they still got the money. Also, only the team that gets first in the final gets money; 2nd and 3rd get get nothing.

[B]molds[/B], does Tori volunteer to go into the gulag in the next episode? Given that Dunbar now knows Paula voted for him in the last round, I don't see him voting Tori in over Paula. Also, why did Camille get such a positive edit when it seems that a lot more happened that wasn't aired? It seems she had some pretty *****y and rude moments (that had nothing to do with her situation with Brad/Tori) and yet she was edited as the feisty little angelic underdog. Which makes no sense, because wasn't she cast for the opposite reason?

I feel as though Brad gets a bad rap on here IMO. Brad has made it to the finals on on 4 challenges he has never been sent home before the halfway point and his elmination record is 4 and 2 wich is pretty good. He has beat Big Easy,CT,MJ and Landon with his 2 loses By Abram and Derrick.

[QUOTE=Matty;222093][B]molds[/B], does Tori volunteer to go into the gulag in the next episode? Given that Dunbar now knows Paula voted for him in the last round, I don't see him voting Tori in over Paula. Also, why did Camille get such a positive edit when it seems that a lot more happened that wasn't aired? It seems she had some pretty *****y and rude moments (that had nothing to do with her situation with Brad/Tori) and yet she was edited as the feisty little angelic underdog. Which makes no sense, because wasn't she cast for the opposite reason?[/QUOTE] The editors needed an underdog. Viewers attract towards the underdog (i.e. Katie on just about every challenge -- especially the first Inferno, Leah on the first Inferno, Sarah on the Gauntlet, Derrick on Gauntlet 2)... In my humble opinion, Camila is the only cast member that gave them any sort of footage to make her an underdog. The story wouldn't have made sense with anybody else (except Cara Maria, but they are starting to touch on that in recent episodes too).

[QUOTE=jones10389;222103]I feel as though Brad gets a bad rap on here IMO. Brad has made it to the finals on on 4 challenges he has never been sent home before the halfway point and his elmination record is 4 and 2 wich is pretty good. He has beat Big Easy,CT,MJ and Landon with his 2 loses By Abram and Derrick.[/QUOTE] How many of those did he actually win/earn on his own and how many were ******** from the other person? The only I really remember him doing well in was the one against Easy, who I'm disliking more after reading the reunion notes, by the way. Also, I have to sympathize with Camila. She went in with no idea what to expect, was treated like **** from day one from her own team, so of course, she's going to get drunk and say rude things. She's trapped in a house on a team with people who want to make her life **** while she's there. I'd be drunk as a fish and yelling at everyone on my team, too.

[QUOTE=Buck05;222109]The editors needed an underdog. Viewers attract towards the underdog (i.e. Katie on just about every challenge -- especially the first Inferno, Leah on the first Inferno, Sarah on the Gauntlet, Derrick on Gauntlet 2)... In my humble opinion, Camila is the only cast member that gave them any sort of footage to make her an underdog. The story wouldn't have made sense with anybody else (except Cara Maria, but they are starting to touch on that in recent episodes too).[/QUOTE] You seem to be forgetting Brandon.

[QUOTE=molds13;222125]I believe she does, but don't take my word on that. Editing works wonders. [B]There are some cast members that get a great edit that aren't so nice[/B].[/QUOTE] Is that part of the Ayiiia-Cara Maria feud and the mention of Camila not always deserving sympathy? I always wonder who's actually real and who's editing themselves as they go.

[QUOTE=drakingson;222060]I froze the clip. The announcer says something like,"Coming up during the rest of the Cutthroat season...". The guy with Tina is obviously Tina. I froze the video and it was CTs face. CT is taller and stockier than Kenny. Kenny is a skinny olive skinned Italian dude with greasy hair. He really should be on Jersey shore. I hope CT kicks Johnny Bananas *** in the pole event.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by "pole event"? They play Back Up Off Me, not Pole Me Over. And I don't think Tina can be both a guy and a girl, at least, not standing next to one another, so I think you meant CT. Everybody knows it's CT except for that one girl on the cast who thought (hoped?) it was Kenny.

Camila: When you're regularly in bed with the leader of an opposing team, it's little wonder your team turned against you. They were just too polite to say the reason on camera.

[QUOTE=V1man;222143]Camila: When you're regularly in bed with the leader of an opposing team, it's little wonder your team turned against you. They were just too polite to say the reason on camera.[/QUOTE] Weren't Brad and Tori on opposing teams on Gauntlet 3? And Danny and Melinda? If Brad had been on grey or blue, I'm sure the fraternizing with the enemy excuse would've been replaced with some other reason to hate on the girl, rather than own their *************.

So I was watching the dailies where Tori and Brad were talking about Camila and their arguments suck 1. Camila is sleeping in the blue room. Last time I checked she can sleep where ever she wants. There are no rules about you having to sleep with your team. Also Tori and Brad met on the Gauntlet 3 and were basically dating and that was perfectly fine? 2.Camila might give away team strategy How? What strategy can you possibly tell. First off Camila does not know what the missions are going to be ahead of time just like everyone else. If you win a challenge, that only means your safe and have no say in the elimination. Also Camila can't give much away about who her team would vote in because they are just going to send her in again and again and it's pretty easy to determine whose going in for the red team since they vote in the dumbest ways. My favorite part of the argument is that Brad the whole time talking about how Camila can't be trusted consisted of "Ummm....Camila can't be trusted. Ummmm.........she's sleeping with Johnny. Ummmm.......shes brazilian." If you're going to attack someone, at least have a legitimate argument. Also back to the Tori and Brad thing from the Gauntlet 3. On that show having someone on the other team was more beneficial than on this challenge. So why is it okay that Tori and Brad could save eachother on that challenge and hooked up but Camila can't hang out with someone on the blue team who can't do anything or control the votes since she is one person on this challenge? Tori and Brad have the worst arguments next to Paula's. At least Paula's arguments make me LOL because she is just so ridiculous and pathetic, no offense to the girl but she really needs to learn the play the game. I mean Tori and Brad are just so stupid. I still like them but they literally have the worst arguments I have ever heard. It sucks that they win but whatever, that means we won't have to deal with them again anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;222133]What do you mean by "pole event"? They play Back Up Off Me, not Pole Me Over. And I don't think Tina can be both a guy and a girl, at least, not standing next to one another, so I think you meant CT. Everybody knows it's CT except for that one girl on the cast who thought (hoped?) it was Kenny.[/QUOTE] To be fair, we knew it was CT because we already knew it was CT. I bet if we just watched it as a regular fan, or from the point of view from the cast mates (who probably expected CT to be the last guy to show up), it be easy to confuse CT with Kenny, plus they probably had a different literal point of view from where they where standing.

[B]Molds,[/B] Do you know how the next 2 gulags actually go down??? Obviously Ther v Tori v Tina and JB v Tyler v CT in the next....but on a post of the recap from the reunion, it seems like the last gulag is immediately following the 2nd to last??? taken from the reunion recap...."Teams were yelling at Tyler to quit but he wouldn't. Tyler vs. Derrick. [B]Tyler beats Derrick after going against CT. They wanted Tyler to quit early with CT because he had to go against Derrick RIGHT after."[/B] I'm kindof interested that Tori didn't go back in but it was Paula who took her turn, but Tyler went in back to back

[QUOTE=kw713;222354][B]Molds,[/B] Do you know how the next 2 gulags actually go down??? Obviously Ther v Tori v Tina and JB v Tyler v CT in the next....but on a post of the recap from the reunion, it seems like the last gulag is immediately following the 2nd to last??? taken from the reunion recap...."Teams were yelling at Tyler to quit but he wouldn't. Tyler vs. Derrick. [B]Tyler beats Derrick after going against CT. They wanted Tyler to quit early with CT because he had to go against Derrick RIGHT after."[/B] I'm kindof interested that Tori didn't go back in but it was Paula who took her turn, but Tyler went in back to back[/QUOTE] Like Molds said above, there seems to be a mission between them. Because you can see Derrick competing in the next challenge (big metal hoop thing) and the riot shield mission so it must go: -metal hoop/ball mission (Johnny is seen as well) -CT and Tina -riot shield -Derrick vs. Tyler But of course, this still sounds odd because if the red team wanted Tyler to quit to save his energy, even if it was for the next Gulag which was a day away, how would they have known the blue team would lose and it'd be against Derrick and not the gray team? Or how'd they knew that they themselves wouldn't win the mission and not have to worry about the Gulag...weird.

[QUOTE=Darock1713;221429]BULLS8IT. Townie, what the **** is going on? Has the challenge and the way BMP has made this into a soap opera has even gotten to you too? I can't believe it. I do not care for Johnny at all, but that gulag was size & strength dependant, and after watching Johnny throw Dunbar around in the Ruins.................... no way in **** he would have lost to Tyler head to head. Tyler is not a strong guy who looked like he has bulked up...... he has decent endurance and that's it. Of all the misisons thus far, he only stood out in one, which required no strength. He just doesn't look as bad this season because of his team's composite (Brad, who is mediocre..... Dunbar, gimme a break .... Chet, a Yale or Harvard playboy wannabe, and Brandon, who actually had some value). I've been laughed at, and am STILL despite assurity from molds13 ................. unconvinced that Tyler is in the last gulag against Derrick, furthermore Tyler winning without some sverve. My opinion only, fair enough. Tyler won the gulag because CT despises Johnny. Unless all of a sudden, big bad CT actually struggled against the emerging Tyler. Yeah, right! I just don't see Abram having that much respect for someone if they lost to someone he feels is inferior. Derrick losing to Tyler in something physical just wouldn't justify Abram's praise. I'm sure in 3 weeks when it goes down, I'll get the I told you sos, etc. Still I won't change my opinion for favor on this board. As for another blogger who thought it was cheap fodder to bring on CT and Tina, I say, I disagree. This was the perfect way to reintroduce CT in a receptive light to the public, as a means for the next challenge. Don't know CT personally (yeah I'm sure you do townie), but 10 to 1 says he is a regular on the next challenge, especially if it's a Duel. He is one of the few brightspots this season. Abram is another.[/QUOTE] To molds13 & townie....................[B][I][U] Crow doesn't taste that well, but being the man and a half that I am, I'll admit that I am and have been totally wrong of both your assessments and inputs of Tyler's ability.[/U][/I][/B] If Tyler can go 40 minutes against CT, that says a lot, and thne to come back and beat Derrick, says more. I underestimated the kid based on the past, and I should not have done that. I was miffed that townie would give Tyler credit especially since he knows CT, but obviously, I ignored the hidden message. Molds 13, go ahead and say it........... I guess it actually helps add perspective to have the inside track on things from being in the know. Meantime, I'll hitch my broken donkey and head for the vevmo hills. I need to get a plane ticket somewhere abroad. Adieu!

Tyler's always been physically strong, he's just never been around long enough on a challenge to prove it except for once on Gauntlet 3 when he went up against Frank... and he lasted pretty **** long and was nowhere near as big or as strong as he is currently when he went up against CT. He's one of the rare guys on these challenges whose workouts consist of more than bench presses and dumbbell curls. He's got a strong lower body & does cardio like a machine too.

[QUOTE=rwrrfan;222152]So I was watching the dailies where Tori and Brad were talking about Camila and their arguments suck 1. Camila is sleeping in the blue room. Last time I checked she can sleep where ever she wants. There are no rules about you having to sleep with your team. Also Tori and Brad met on the Gauntlet 3 and were basically dating and that was perfectly fine? 2.Camila might give away team strategy How? What strategy can you possibly tell. First off Camila does not know what the missions are going to be ahead of time just like everyone else. If you win a challenge, that only means your safe and have no say in the elimination. Also Camila can't give much away about who her team would vote in because they are just going to send her in again and again and it's pretty easy to determine whose going in for the red team since they vote in the dumbest ways. My favorite part of the argument is that Brad the whole time talking about how Camila can't be trusted consisted of "Ummm....Camila can't be trusted. Ummmm.........she's sleeping with Johnny. Ummmm.......shes brazilian." If you're going to attack someone, at least have a legitimate argument. Also back to the Tori and Brad thing from the Gauntlet 3. On that show having someone on the other team was more beneficial than on this challenge. So why is it okay that Tori and Brad could save eachother on that challenge and hooked up but Camila can't hang out with someone on the blue team who can't do anything or control the votes since she is one person on this challenge? Tori and Brad have the worst arguments next to Paula's. At least Paula's arguments make me LOL because she is just so ridiculous and pathetic, no offense to the girl but she really needs to learn the play the game. I mean Tori and Brad are just so stupid. I still like them but they literally have the worst arguments I have ever heard. It sucks that they win but whatever, that means we won't have to deal with them again anytime soon.[/QUOTE] So not you know that there was strategy going on between Brad and Tori when they met on their first challenge together. It would have been foolish of them not to do their best to ensure that Camila and Johnny didn't have the same opportunity to influence the game. Smart. Sometimes one must peel back the onion to find out what juicy stuff in underneath the edit... or the dailies...

[QUOTE=llcooljonas;222144]Weren't Brad and Tori on opposing teams on Gauntlet 3? And Danny and Melinda? If Brad had been on grey or blue, I'm sure the fraternizing with the enemy excuse would've been replaced with some other reason to hate on the girl, rather than own their ******************] Your ************* is my excellent strategy. It is a strategy that Kenny and Evan have employed too often. It's about time someone did something about it, not that most of the MTV crew are smart enough to apply the lessons...

[QUOTE=V1man;223005]So not you know that there was strategy going on between Brad and Tori when they met on their first challenge together. [B]It would have been foolish of them not to do their best to ensure that Camila and Johnny didn't have the same opportunity to influence the game.[/B] Smart. Sometimes one must peel back the onion to find out what juicy stuff in underneath the edit... or the dailies...[/QUOTE] I love Brad and Tori, but I really believe that they did it to save Tori. Camila and Johnny did not have a legit an alliance. It would make no sense.