CM is kind of talking non stop about it on twitter/formspring/ustream etc. A bit much. She said the mtv blogs are against her/clearly team Jenn because they said she was playing the victim card that is all they said in whole blog about her negative so it's not like they were bashing her over and over. I mean she was mistreated by a bunch(3 or so) of drunken adults competing for money. It is obvious the ones who said stuff to her have their own problems with alcohol and other issues. Those type arguments happen once a challenge really if not more not that it's right but immature adults who drink too much and want camera time, i am not suprised. I am definately on team CM and am bored as **** at work and it's non stop on all her social networking. I just think it's a bit blown out of proportion.
Jenn is just a trash talker who probably has never been in a real fight and knows the fighting rule exists so she does whatever she wants. SHe knows no girl will hit her.
[QUOTE=jojorules;266960]CM is kind of talking non stop about it on twitter/formspring/ustream etc. A bit much. She said the mtv blogs are against her/clearly team Jenn because they said she was playing the victim card that is all they said in whole blog about her negative so it's not like they were bashing her over and over. I mean she was mistreated by a bunch(3 or so) of drunken adults competing for money. It is obvious the ones who said stuff to her have their own problems with alcohol and other issues. Those type arguments happen once a challenge really if not more not that it's right but immature adults who drink too much and want camera time, i am not suprised. I am definately on team CM and am bored as **** at work and it's non stop on all her social networking. I just think it's a bit blown out of proportion.
Jenn is just a trash talker who probably has never been in a real fight and knows the fighting rule exists so she does whatever she wants. SHe knows no girl will hit her.[/QUOTE]
Well obviously. Everybody here is talking about it, everybody is spamming her formspring with the same questions about the fight. She probably got asked god knows how many times about it on her uStream. It's like the Laurel/Big Easy situation... everybody loves her now but just wait, a couple of weeks and this whole thing will be over with.
[QUOTE=SPK713;266964]Well obviously. Everybody here is talking about it, everybody is spamming her formspring with the same questions about the fight. She probably got asked god knows how many times about it on her uStream. It's like the Laurel/Big Easy situation... everybody loves her now but just wait, a couple of weeks and this whole thing will be over with.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean on vevmo, just how overblown it is elsewhere. But you are right, but i am sick of it already haha. You see on previews of what's to come she is crying again so get ready for part 2 of it I am sure. She was asked a lot i'm sure but she is the one having a ustream to rewatch it. If it's that difficult for her why is she rewatching it the next day again when she knows the same questions are coming again that were coming on twitter/formspring? That is basically what i mean. It is overkill IMO. I know i don't have to pay attention, and i am not anymore, but i still noticed it whether u care or not if you check twitter u see what's going on. I was going to watch her ustream but than thought about it and realized the same stuff was coming so i didn't. She seems to want it to be a huge deal. Laurel didn't want hers to be a big deal and it was. I have no clue if Easy wanted it to be or not, i wasn't on twitter or social networking than. I do like her though, she seems very normal and down to earth.
It is true though about the MTV.com blogs. They act as if Cara Maria went on a tirade trying to get Jenn and Mandi into the Jungle:
[quote]Cara Maria was talking all sorts of smack and trying to rally the house to throw Jenn and Mandi into The Jungle (not to mention, she made assumptions about Jenn's bedroom romps that, according to the accused, were untrue), but the claws really came out when Jenn's neck-bob and dramatic gesticulating took effect.[/quote]
They also claim that Cara Maria was playing victim when she mentioned that her grandma said she couldn't watch her so upset, while pretty much praising Jenn for "going in for the kill" on Twitter. There's a clear bias here towards Jenn so it's not as if that argument's unfounded.
That's not to say that there should be bias towards CM either, but they shouldn't be trying to make Jenn look like a hero.
SHe just said on twitter how she was made to feel terrible in HS all the time so it makes sense why this would be a big deal. Her laid back non confrontational personality makes sense with that. That is sad.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;266975]It is true though about the MTV.com blogs. They act as if Cara Maria went on a tirade trying to get Jenn and Mandi into the Jungle:
They also claim that Cara Maria was playing victim when she mentioned that her grandma said she couldn't watch her so upset, while pretty much praising Jenn for "going in for the kill" on Twitter. There's a clear bias here towards Jenn so it's not as if that argument's unfounded.
That's not to say that there should be bias towards CM either, but they shouldn't be trying to make Jenn look like a hero.[/QUOTE]
Ya I was ****** off reading the MTV blog, they make Cara Maria look so bad and Jenn the victim. CM's first comment was made because they were all talking about why people would be in any particular order. Someone brought up Laurel and C.T. so she countered with Jenn and Adam. Nothing wrong in my opinion with bringing that up, Jenn reacted way too much!
[QUOTE=DomDom7;267026]Ya I was ****** off reading the MTV blog, they make Cara Maria look so bad and Jenn the victim. CM's first comment was made because they were all talking about why people would be in any particular order. Someone brought up Laurel and C.T. so she countered with Jenn and Adam. Nothing wrong in my opinion with bringing that up, Jenn reacted way too much![/QUOTE]
Apparently Jenn/Mandi, CM/Laurel, and Ev/Paula had an agreement and were together in an alliance with each other and the guys. CM, Mandi, and Evelyn apparently had a separate agreement that they would not vote each other regardless of who their partner was, if they could help it.
When CM first mentioned Jenn and Adam in her counter to Johnny saying Laurel and CT, there was no blow up by Jenn or anybody. The comment was made, some people didn't like it, but nothing went crazy at that point, and it was decided that Jenn/Laurel would go last in the mission. Now this whole issue should be settled at this point because its over and done with.
So CM/Laurel DQ, then CM decides she wants to go against Jenn in the jungle because Jenn always seems to sail to the final. For whatever reason she says this loud enough for everyone on the bus to hear.
CM/Laurel don't have enough votes to put in Jenn/Mandi, so they will now go in against the rookies and the jungle is set in stone. Why then would Cara Maria go to the club and start talking about Jenn and Adam? At this point what does bringing up the two of them hooking up, have to do with anything? Does this not seem petty to those of you who are "TeamCaraMaria"?
Somehow, CM/Laurel don't understand why the people in their alliance are mad at them after they tried to put another team in their alliance into the jungle? Are they stupid? Of course everyone is going to wear blue, and pull against you if you try to pull some shady **** like that.
And people still feel sorry for CM. She tried to pull a shady move against the people in her own alliance and people feel sorry for her? Please somebody help me understand this.
[QUOTE=bigworm;268297]And people still feel sorry for CM. She tried to pull a shady move against the people in her own alliance and people feel sorry for her? Please somebody help me understand this.[/QUOTE]
Cause she didn't blow up like a child (Jenn) and start swinging. Jenn tried to be all hard and tough and pushed her and smacked her in the face. Whether what CM did was wrong or not, Jenn handled it far worse. And it's not like Jenn has never done anything shady. I would say playing the fence on FM2 and lying to Kenny's alliance was pretty shady.
I have no clue how to do a screen cap but Abram just left a, um, interesting comment on her facebook wall.
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Sometimes Abram gives me the impression that he thinks he's too good for MTV, even though he has been on it for years, but him saying he doesn't watch it and that it's all stupid sounds kind of dumb. And I don't know what he means when he said that she's a big deal because she was on tv. And why would he write that on her public fb wall, why not text it instead?
[QUOTE=Blue123;268436]Sometimes Abram gives me the impression that he thinks he's too good for MTV, even though he has been on it for years, but him saying he doesn't watch it and that it's all stupid sounds kind of dumb. And I don't know what he means when he said that she's a big deal because she was on tv. And why would he write that on her public fb wall, why not text it instead?[/QUOTE]
Abram does act like he's too good for tv. Anyone who has seen challenges of the past can probably attest to how he claims to be so disgusted with how the people on these shows act but he partakes in the same behavior (throwing missions, etc). He's weird. I feel like he wants to portray himself to be one type of character when he is just the opposite. Maybe if he pretends he is one way he will suddenly become that person?
I can kind of understand what he means about Cara Maria, but solely because I have seen her posts. Recently, (and this is just my opinion) she has been all talk about the show. I know that it could just be her answering fan questions and the like but between twitter, formspring, facebook and whatever other social media outlet she uses; she can come off like she is 'cooler' than before because she is on this show.
She posts a lot of personal stuff on her facebook and twitter. Maybe she is just vocal with her feelings but sometimes it looks like she is trying to victimize herself. It could also be related to the fact that she was bullied in school and called a 'weirdo' and now people love her because she's a weirdo so she's getting a bit of a big head?
I'm just speculating lol.
I don't think by disgusting behaviour he means throwing missions, he means CT's/Jenn's behaviour from the last episode probably and all the other stuff that went down. Obviously once he's on there he has to go along with it/let it happen otherwise he'll be a target for elimination I suppose.
While I do kind of see where Abram is coming from because of that road trip video where he broke up with her because he couldn't even talk to her, he had to talk into the camera and then Cara would watch it later and really realize what he said. And Cara has been kind of a "popular girl" on the show lately..
Cara's response btw:
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/caramaria"]Cara Maria Sorbello[/URL] i'm not going to dignify any of this with a response.
[QUOTE=Skeet;268535]I don't think by disgusting behaviour he means throwing missions, he means CT's/Jenn's behaviour from the last episode probably and all the other stuff that went down. Obviously once he's on there he has to go along with it/let it happen otherwise he'll be a target for elimination I suppose.
While I do kind of see where Abram is coming from because of that road trip video where he broke up with her because he couldn't even talk to her, he had to talk into the camera and then Cara would watch it later and really realize what he said. And Cara has been kind of a "popular girl" on the show lately..
Cara's response btw:
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/caramaria"]Cara Maria Sorbello[/URL] i'm not going to dignify any of this with a response.[/QUOTE]
Not even from the last episode, well apparently he doesnt watch it so he might not have even seen the last episode. If you read his formspring, he seems to badmouth the show a lot, so if you hate it so much why did you apply for it, and be on it for so many years? And Yeah there is a lot of dumb stuff on the show but Abram really shouldnt be talking when it comes to acting stupid, remember his jail incident?
@Jsilver23 I think she talks about the show a lot to promote it, all of them on twitter do that in hopes of getting higher ratings.
Well when he first applied for the show he probably had a different opinion about it then now.. And it's still a good way to make some money since he is a great competitor. And obviously if he hasn't seen the last few episodes then he has seen the disgusting behaviour in other seasons.
I was gonna say aswell, if anyone has split personalities it's Abram, but I think his personality just depends 100% on the mood he's in.
It's funny how people are defending CM on fb and they probably don't even know what he's talking about because he actually KNOWS her lol
And a lot of these new people (FM2/Vegas2) think they are a huge deal and much cooler now. Competing for followers, blogging, asking random questions on twitter, etc... is all just for attention lol. People tweet/post personal stuff because they want feedback from the fans which they know will be positive and/or sympathetic given the situation.
[QUOTE=Blue123;268537]Not even from the last episode, well apparently he doesnt watch it so he might not have even seen the last episode. If you read his formspring, he seems to badmouth the show a lot, so if you hate it so much why did you apply for it, and be on it for so many years? And Yeah there is a lot of dumb stuff on the show but Abram really shouldnt be talking when it comes to acting stupid, remember his jail incident?
@Jsilver23 I think she talks about the show a lot to promote it, all of them on twitter do that in hopes of getting higher ratings.[/QUOTE]
The challenges were different back then. It was better. It's changed a lot. I'm sure cutthroat DRASTICALLY changed abram's opinion on the show since cutthroat was like prison. The entire cast hated being there, the conditions were awful and the house was the worst in challenge history. Abram has talked highly of the older challenges he's been a part of so yeah...
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;268541]It's funny how people are defending CM on fb and they probably don't even know what he's talking about because he actually KNOWS her lol
And a lot of these new people (FM2/Vegas2) think they are a huge deal and much cooler now. Competing for followers, blogging, asking random questions on twitter, etc... is all just for attention lol. People tweet/post personal stuff because they want feedback from the fans which they know will be positive and/or sympathetic given the situation.[/QUOTE]
And this plays into the last episode. Because of the edit, its not as clear for everyone to see that Cara Maria had a larger role in the whole situation. So Cara Maria obviously won't bring that up on her twitter or facebook. Instead she just rolls with what they showed on tv, plays the victim, and tries to get sympathy from all of her fans.
That's lame.
[QUOTE=Blue123;268537][B]Not even from the last episode, well apparently he doesnt watch it so he might not have even seen the last episode.[/B] If you read his formspring, he seems to badmouth the show a lot, so if you hate it so much why did you apply for it, and be on it for so many years? And Yeah there is a lot of dumb stuff on the show but Abram really shouldnt be talking when it comes to acting stupid, remember his jail incident?
@Jsilver23 I think she talks about the show a lot to promote it, all of them on twitter do that in hopes of getting higher ratings.[/QUOTE]
He watched part of it..here's what he said.
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[QUOTE=jhl182;268542]The challenges were different back then. It was better. It's changed a lot. I'm sure cutthroat DRASTICALLY changed abram's opinion on the show since cutthroat was like prison. The entire cast hated being there, the conditions were awful and the house was the worst in challenge history. Abram has talked highly of the older challenges he's been a part of so yeah...[/QUOTE]
Yeah but if he's on it then he shouldnt really be mocking it, and he's still willing to go on them, apparently he agreed to do rivals but his partner didn't and he's also known to act stupid so it's a little hypocritical. I am not trying to defend CM as if she does no wrong and I dont think she's as innocent as they show and idk what he meant by what he said about her and that's none of my business even though he posted it where random ppl can see it. I am just saying it's dumb that he bad mouths the show that he still participates on but seems to think he's above the rest of the cast, because he acts like a drunk idiot too.
[QUOTE=Blue123;268554]Yeah but if he's on it then he shouldnt really be mocking it, and he's still willing to go on them, [B]apparently he agreed to do rivals but his partner didn't [/B]and he's also known to act stupid so it's a little hypocritical. I am not trying to defend CM as if she does no wrong and I dont think she's as innocent as they show and idk what he meant by what he said about her and that's none of my business even though he posted it where random ppl can see it. I am just saying it's dumb that he bad mouths the show that he still participates on but seems to think he's above the rest of the cast, because he acts like a drunk idiot too.[/QUOTE]
Really? I wonder who they tried to get as his partner(If that's true).
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;268551]He watched part of it..here's what he said.[/QUOTE]
Abram says she kept calm, really? I think if you watch the online exclusive you will see she hardly kept calm. But he didn't so i don't blame him for thinking that. That just shows how huge an edit plays a role in this stuff. She flipped out/was balling on the online exclusive with the Jenn/CT stuff. She could have let it go and even said Abram would kick CT's ***. CT instigated it for no reason at the club, but she continued it at the kitchen when it was over with. She re-riled the beast. A big group in her face at one time is not OK though so a lot of people were wrong in a lot of ways.
Jenn came out of nowhere with that hit/kick/push i am not sure what it was it wasn't shown but it was very random and a cheap shot. That i took from it no matter how started the kitchen fight.
I don't think she is "too nice" like claimed and that's why she cries when in an argument, i just think she is too emotional at times and can't control it. Not really a bad thing anywhere else, but at a challenge can be hard especially if you cry very easily. But surrounded by a house full of people trying to create drama may not be the best place for her if you cry easily. Or it could make you get more support because it makes you look like the victim in it all usually people side with the person crying.
[QUOTE=bigworm;268545]And this plays into the last episode. Because of the edit, its not as clear for everyone to see that Cara Maria had a larger role in the whole situation. So Cara Maria obviously won't bring that up on her twitter or facebook. Instead she just rolls with what they showed on tv, plays the victim, and tries to get sympathy from all of her fans.
That's lame.[/QUOTE]
Yes because Jenn, Tyler, and Paula aren't going to leave stuff out so they don't look good. EVERYONE leaves stuff out so you can't just blame one person if they leave any details out.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;268541]It's funny how people are defending CM on fb and they probably don't even know what he's talking about because he actually KNOWS her lol
And a lot of these new people (FM2/Vegas2) think they are a huge deal and much cooler now. Competing for followers, blogging, asking random questions on twitter, etc... is all just for attention lol. People tweet/post personal stuff because they want feedback from the fans which they know will be positive and/or sympathetic given the situation.[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree.
I kind of get the vibe that Cara Maria just really likes the attention. She never got it before. To my understanding, she was bullied and basically a 'nobody'. Now she has supporters and fans so it may be out of her element and she may not even realize how she comes across? Not sure.
You'll have to forgive me because I'm running on empty in the energy department.
And Cara Maria has put her entire relationship (or whatever you call it) with Abram on blast. I really don't think she should have posted such personal videos like that. Especially if you truly treasure something. I don't think it should be for the world to see. That's just my opinion.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;268589]Adam from The Quest[/QUOTE]
I remember him saying that he was done with the shows so yeah Abram definetly got cut from the cast....But It would've been nice to see Adam though.
I will say this, I like how she will answer questions how she feels about the cast, but I can see how she can say too much sometimes if personal and how Abe could be upset about it. Not that he is, just meant it's pretty much revealing all the intimate details of their relationship.
But I'll take her openness over Mandi's "It was the edit, I am being made to look stupid, everybody listen to me" approach. That just is kind of pathetic IMO. If you black out and have a huge argument and look bad, hard to defend yourself since you blacked out. Cara just says what's on her mind and how she feels, she doesn't say it's right or we need to be on her side. IMO Mandi is just embarassed how she acted and it's kind of a harsh reality check. Cara is OK with who she is.
I do want to add with Mandi, I can see how it is tough to have your bad decision, or if you make bad decisions with guys, be put on blast on tv. I think with Cara, she cries so easily it makes it look worse than it probably really is. She said she was cool with CT before that and after, but because of just that one fight, she is OK with him but not like friends. A bit much IMO, she did re bring it up in kitchen and say Abe could beat him up.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;268606]I remember him saying that he was done with the shows so yeah Abram definetly got cut from the cast....But It would've been nice to see Adam though.[/QUOTE]
They would've been a great pair to replace Davis/Tyrie, would've really changed up the game cause CT/Adam, Abram/Adam, Leroy/Adam (lol 3x adam) and later Leroy/Mike would have been a strong alliance to go against JEK, Brandon/Ty would've probably followed JEK. But for the women it'd also be a fun change for example Laurel/Cara, Laurel would stick with Kenny while Cara was still in a relationship with Abram back then, and would still be because if he was in Costa Rica the poo-incident wouldn't have happened :P
Anyway it's all if if if ^^
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