The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=thisismyuser;308452]Do you guys think they'll be done filming this challenge by June 27, when St. Thomas starts airing? Because wouldn't it be weird to have over half the cast absent on twitter for their premiere?[/QUOTE] If they aren't finished shooting the challenge by then, and the St. Thomas team is still on the challenge, it will be easy for BMP to hook them up with access to twitter so they can promote/comment on the new season. They are new to MTV; they will do what they are told.

Wow, big change in cast! Lots of new meat in there from the new seasons that I haven't watched yet! I like the challenges more than the show in my opinion. I'm glad to see Sara back!! There's going to be some drama with Danny and Melinda, I would think too. Looks like a good season! I'm excited!

I'm glad production is finally starting to smarten up. I think if the go back to their old roots (before Inferno 3) then this challenge could be a hit. I already expect a great season with the fresh cast and past drama they will bring.

[QUOTE=gamer73;308522]I'm glad production is finally starting to smarten up. I think if the go back to their old roots (before Inferno 3) then this challenge could be a hit. I already expect a great season with the fresh cast and [B]past drama they will bring[/B].[/QUOTE] For some reason I see this being similar to Cutthroat and Battle Of The Exes.

If they are season teams, bringing too much drama from their past just shoots one in their own foot. I expect more "Let's put this crap behind us and win one for the Gipper" type drama.

Not sure what to think about the lack of spoilers up to this point. Obviously getting the cast an the Sydney departure/issue was very lucky of us, very interesting that we haven't gotten anymore eliminations. So far it does to be the work of insiders keeping the cast away from social networking, unless there's another element to the game we aren't aware of, but that doesn't seem likely. On one hand, if we don't get the elimination spoilers, it'll be really fun and interesting to watch a challenge not knowing what's going to happen, but I get just as excited when I see that there's a new post in the spoiler thread haha. To me, knowing what's gonna happen doesn't take away anything from watching. My favorite to do well and possibly win is still Cancun. I think CJ will definitely be a top male performer this season and Derek doesn't suck, despite what people say. Yeah the Gulag didn' treat him well, but he went up against Brandon and even Derrick said Brandon was a tough competitor, and that's pretty good credit. Jasmine has the fiesty attitude and drive to win, and I still pin Jonna as one of the top females this season. Part of my reasoning behind Jonna comes from the Jungle against Laurel and Cara Mari. Yeah Laurel and CM dominated Jonna and Jasmine, but in the first heat of the Jungle Jonna was holding Laurel back and was holding her ground pretty well. I honestly think Cancun will surprise a lot of people.

I think Cancun and St. Thomas are going to be the tough teams this season. Even though the St. Thomas kids are fresh rookies, nobody knows what they could do but on paper they look like a good team all 4 are athletes. But if it came down to those 2 teams in the finals I think Cancun would win because CJ is in great shape, Derek looks like he buffed up since Cutthroat, Jasmine has zero quit in her, and Jonna is great at puzzles. Why I think these 2 teams will do so well is because none of them have an animosity between each other I think the teams will work really well amongst each other.

I feel San Diego is going to be tough for teams to beat. As long as Zach and Frank don't get in to fights and arguments, they should do well. I am not sure how the San Diego girls are going to do in this challenge. But Zach and Frank are going to do really well.

I expect St. Thomas to win it all.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;308582]Not sure what to think about the lack of spoilers up to this point.[/QUOTE] There are multiple spoilers, but for some reason they're being deleted. Not sure if it's so the people who run this site can take credit for "breaking" them or not, but it smells fishy.

[QUOTE=rachel_28;308598]I feel San Diego is going to be tough for teams to beat. As long as Zach and Frank don't get in to fights and arguments, they should do well. I am not sure how the San Diego girls are going to do in this challenge. But Zach and Frank are going to do really well.[/QUOTE] I agree, I think that Zach will do great and Frank will be solid as long as he keeps his head in the game. I think Sam has potential to do really well, and I expect Ashley to be doing well also. [QUOTE=FishHooks;308600]I expect St. Thomas to win it all.[/QUOTE] This is who I expect and want to win. Although the 'want' part may change after I watch their season ;). For me in regards to the other teams it comes down to them having someone I don't want to win or can't see as a champion. Brooklyn-JD, Cancun-Derek/Jasmine, Fresh Meat-Eric, New Orleans-Preston/Jemmye, and San Diego-Frank.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;308600]I expect St. Thomas to win it all.[/QUOTE] How can you expect them to win it all when we haven't even watched their season. For all we know they can be head cases. Just because them seem civil to each other on twitter doesn't mean they all get along in real life. What I am trying to say is I am going to hold back o my opinion on the St. Thomas cast until I watch their season.

[QUOTE=RWCS08;308602]There are multiple spoilers, but for some reason they're being deleted. Not sure if it's so the people who run this site can take credit for "breaking" them or not, but it smells fishy.[/QUOTE] It is, in my observational opinion, because when a spoiler is officially posted here as being so, it often gets picked up and repeated by various websites/blogs as fact so there is a greater concern for accuracy. An example would be the entertainment websites that have already used Molds13's cast list as the basis for their stories based upon her accuracy and reliability in determining that. I am sure once the Challenge is done filming, it will be much easier to verify information and still get the spoilers out before the season airs.

[QUOTE=rachel_28;308604]How can you expect them to win it all when we haven't even watched their season. For all we know they can be head cases. Just because them seem civil to each other on twitter doesn't mean they all get along in real life. What I am trying to say is I am going to hold back o my opinion on the St. Thomas cast until I watch their season.[/QUOTE] Because Trey is built like a tank and Robb is twelve feet tall and the girls do not appear to be fragile little girls. It doesn't matter if they are head cases or not, because all of the RW/Challenge people are in one way or the other or else they wouldn't be on the show to begin with. Add into that the fact that they were the most recent season and are going to be more naturally inclined to be a team IMO. then that is who I think will win.

[QUOTE=RWCS08;308602]There are multiple spoilers, but for some reason they're being deleted. Not sure if it's so the people who run this site can take credit for "breaking" them or not, but it smells fishy.[/QUOTE] Molds will give credit for the people who find out spoilers about the show. She just needs to be 100% certain about it before posting it in the main thread. If you post it in this thread, people from other websites will take it and spew it out as fact, even if it isn't true. If you have any information then you can PM molds about it.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;308606]Because Trey is built like a tank and Robb is twelve feet tall and the girls do not appear to be fragile little girls. It doesn't matter if they are head cases or not, because all of the RW/Challenge people are in one way or the other or else they wouldn't be on the show to begin with. Add into that the fact that they were the most recent season and are going to be more naturally inclined to be a team IMO. then that is who I think will win.[/QUOTE] I am going to politely disagree with you. Being built like a tank and being twelve feet tall isn't going to help you in anyway, if you are not smart! Specially when it comes to challenges involving puzzles. And also you need good hand eye coordination for some of these challenges. I know many guys who are built and tall and have horrible coordination. And also some of these challenges you may need lots of stamina to do well, and we won't know if they have stamina. My point is being built like a tank and being twelve feel tall doesn't guarantee instant success in theses challenges.

[QUOTE=molds13;308609]I have sent you personal messages regarding this, and your most recent infraction explains why they have been deleted. I suggest reading the first post of this thread as well as older members' responses to you. The rules here are simple. If you can't follow them, your posts will be deleted. Obviously, nothing is "fishy" as I haven't posted any of your spoilers as fact without properly crediting you. I have absolutely no reason to believe what you are saying is true. I also have absolutely no reason to believe what you are saying is false. What you are failing to provide is proof. I can't accept "a birdie" as proof.[/QUOTE] :big_boss: :clapping:

[QUOTE=rachel_28;308608]I am going to politely disagree with you. Being built like a tank and being twelve feet tall isn't going to help you in anyway, if you are not smart! Specially when it comes to challenges involving puzzles. And also you need good hand eye coordination for some of these challenges. I know many guys who are built and tall and have horrible coordination. And also some of these challenges you may need lots of stamina to do well, and we won't know if they have stamina. My point is being built like a tank and being twelve feel tall doesn't guarantee instant success in theses challenges.[/QUOTE] The athletic background suggests they have stamina and hand-eye coordination. Being good at puzzles will help you once maybe twice in the Challenges at most, and there is no indication to me that they are not smart. Since I have pointed to their participation in organized sports as evidence of physical skills, I politely ask you point to what evidence that suggests they are somehow less smart than any other team.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;308613]The athletic background suggests they have stamina and hand-eye coordination. Being good at puzzles will help you once maybe twice in the Challenges at most, and there is no indication to me that they are not smart. Since I have pointed to their participation in organized sports as evidence of physical skills, I politely ask you point to what evidence that suggests they are somehow less smart than any other team.[/QUOTE] I am a former college athlete my self. There are many college athletes that I have met who are good at one particular sport. But put them in different environment or a sport they fail miserably. So assuming just because they have an athletic background is going to help them win challenges, that I do not agree with you. I don't get it why you feel taking part in organized sports makes them that much better than other teams in physical skills! You got me there, I have no evidence to prove them that they are less smarter or way more smarter than other teams. That is why, I am waiting for the real world season to start to get a better idea on the cast.

[QUOTE=rachel_28;308615]I am a former college athlete my self. There are many college athletes that I have met who are good at one particular sport. But put them in different environment or a sport they fail miserably. [B]So assuming just because they have an athletic background is going to help them win challenges, that I do not agree with you[/B]. I don't get it why you feel taking part in organized sports makes them that much better than other teams in physical skills! You got me there, I have no evidence to prove them that they are less smarter or way more smarter than other teams. That is why, I am waiting for the real world season to start to get a better idea on the cast.[/QUOTE] That was only part of the equation. I do think that being younger than most of the competitors, having not been yet sucked into the Challenge politics, having athletic backgrounds, and just coming out a group living situation will make them a force to be reckoned with. If you do not, then you do not, but I doubt a highly edited RW season will give you the information you think it will.

Experience tells me that many things that happen in the game are determined by the pre-show alliances. Athleticism may be important, but if the game has a player voting aspect in determining who goes into one of the elimination positions, then early in the challenge pre-show team alliances would be critical.

[QUOTE=molds13;308609]I haven't posted any of your spoilers as fact without properly crediting you.[/quote] And I sincerely hope that won't end up being what happens... [quote] I have absolutely no reason to believe what you are saying is true. I also have absolutely no reason to believe what you are saying is false. What you are failing to provide is proof. I can't accept "a birdie" as proof.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. For obvious reasons I can't reveal how I'm being provided spoilers. But I understand my word doesn't mean much through an anonymous internet site. Hopefully once my spoilers are proven correct, I'll be more freely able to share what I know with fans on here.

[QUOTE=molds13;308625]You say Austin is home? I've gotten actual proof from other people before you came around who will be credited for it.[/quote] If you have "proof" then why not confirm it? Clearly you have doubts. I have none. Austin is eliminated. [quote]You say Vegas is home? I've heard otherwise.[/quote] Well that will be a good barometer then. My sources say Vegas is eliminated, yours say otherwise. We'll see I guess. Either way, we're only arguing about spoilers for a reality show. Not a big deal. I just thought people on here would want to hear my spoilers. I've since been told a few things about this site(not sure if it was in relation to you specifically or not) "stealing" from the people who break the stories. Hence my concern.

RWCS08, for whatever it is worth, I have always received credit for the few spoilers for which I could find proof that turned out to be true and for correct conclusions which I was the first to deduce but that has never been anything to me more than a guide as to how to find spoilers and figure out Molds13 clue patterns. I have also provided what appeared to be spoilers which did not turn out to be true. I know its frustrating not to be able to gossip yet about what may or may not have gone down because that stuff is fun, but since there will be a long summer before the show airs, we have time. If other sites post it before here, so be it. Vevmo doesn't have to be first as long as its right in order to be a credible source.

Well obviously I/we don't know how the elimination/voting/faceoff procedure works, but from the looks of it, the rookies/newer cast members may have FINALLY smarted up and may be aligning to vote off the veterans. Really hoping either Vegas or NOLA win the whole thing (if one full team does end up winning).

That one tweet about Alton/Trishelle wasn't enough, and the person that tweeted it seemed to stop tweeting afterwards. We need more.

[QUOTE=jr588;308635]Well obviously I/we don't know how the elimination/voting/faceoff procedure works, but from the looks of it, the rookies/newer cast members may have FINALLY smarted up and may be aligning to vote off the veterans. Really hoping either Vegas or NOLA win the whole thing (if one full team does end up winning).[/QUOTE] I'm with you! I'm hoping the FM team is the next one booted. Austin and FM were the two I most wanted out first. If it wasn't obvious, I'm very happy about the newbies this challenge and want to see them do well. Especially NOLA. Also molds, out of curiosity, I know you mentioned at one point possibly discussing which seasons/cast members were potentially asked to be on the challenge. Just wondering if that was something you were still thinking of doing at some point. Obviously I don't mean right now, but just curious. For some reason that's always something I find really interesting. Thanks!