[QUOTE=bigdoge3;317511]I would say that is right.
Danielle really wants Ian gone. Dan as said he wants Shane and Ian gone but who he wants gone more who knows.
Dan would probably take Shane out since he as a F2 with Ian and Danielle both. Shane would obviously take Danielle with him.[/QUOTE]
Dan targeted Ian with his HOH--I don't think anything has changed
Danielle's a F2 lock if Ian leaves
Dan isn't playing for 50k--he wants to be next to Danielle--doesn't matter who the other person is and he'd have a better shot to beat Shane in the FHOH competition
Dan was laying with a picture of His wife the other day and said "Shane has been around way to long, he needs to go." Dan already made a stupid move getting rid of joe. He needs to take out Shane next. Shane has a great argument to win this game. He also didn't **** off half the jury, Ian did.
[QUOTE=RMD1;317679]Yeah. Shane and Dani are gojng to be the final 2. This blows. Dan needs to work his magic and get Dani to use the veto or he is going out third.[/QUOTE]
He is. Dani has agreed to use the veto and put up Shane because Dani/Shane, being the brilliant masterminds that they are, agreed in private that Dan needs to get blood on his hands and vote to evict Ian.
Little do they know, this is exactly what Dan wants, and when they take him off the block, he will be evicting Shane and not Ian. He even waved "bye bye Shane" to the cameras when he and Dani were talking about it.
Dani is using the veto on Dan because she wants him to get the blood on his hands by evicting Ian. Little does Dani know Dan is considering evicting Shane.
[QUOTE=thatguy;317698]Wait, why does Dan want Shane out? Isn't the final HOH 2/3 memory/trivia, and 1/3 endurance? Making Ian a bigger threat to win than Shane?[/QUOTE]
Yes but Ian will take Dan to the F2 if he would win the final HOH, whereas Shane might not take him, but Dani and Dani might take Shane. For Dans gameplay is the best thing to keep Ian. So he has a guarantee F2 whether Dani or Ian win it.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;317699]Yes but Ian will take Dan to the F2 if he would win the final HOH, whereas Shane might not take him, but Dani and Dani might take Shane. For Dans gameplay is the best thing to keep Ian. So he has a guarantee F2 whether Dani or Ian win it.[/QUOTE]
But Ian has a really good chance to win if he's final 2, and who's to say he doesn't change his mind about who he takes with him? If I was Dan, I'd get Ian out now and take my chances competing against Shane and Dani for the final HOH.
Why would you let Shane stay in the game if you were Dan?
Dan wins final HoH- takes Danielle-Dan wins
Danielle wins final HoH-takes Dan- Dan wins
Ian wins final HOH-takes Dan-Dan has a good chance at winning.
If Dan doesn't evict Shane and doesn't win the final HOH he is going to lose this game. He needs to keep Ian.
If Dan evicts Ian, he will be in a 1-on-2 HandicapFinal HOH. Because Shane/Dani wont take him. So for him in this case is either win or lose.
Whereas if Dan evicts Shane, he will be in a 2-on-1 Handicap Final HOH, where he doesnt need to win, because both Ian and Dani will take him regardless.
Plus at this point, if Shane gets in the f2, he will win this game, because nobody is mad at him. NOBODY.
Ashley is mad at Ian
Britney is mad at Dan/ maybe Dani if Frank told her that
Frank is mad at Dan/Ian/Dani
Joe just doesnt want Dan to win it
Jenn is mad at Ian
If Dan somehow gets Dani to use the veto on him and then he evicts SHANE! WOW. Dan definitely deserves to win this game over everything. He's litearlly thought up everything and gone through every scenari. He knows exacty what he's doing and hands down deserves to win over the rest, even Ian. All Ian really did was get ****** out the door, but even that wasn't Ian's idea.
The real question is....why the **** would Dani take Dan off the block when he's lied to her countless times already? Shane's also an idiot for being okay with this.
Dani locked up a F2 spot when she won the POV--all she has to do is [B]not[/B] use the **** POV. So simple and you make at least 50k...at least--she'd have a great chance to beat Shane or Dan as well.
It amazes me these idiots still trust Dan
[QUOTE=kvm1977;317709]The real question is....why the **** would Dani take Dan off the block when he's lied to her countless times already? Shane's also an idiot for being okay with this.
Dani locked up a F2 spot when she won the POV--all she has to do is [B]not[/B] use the **** POV. So simple and you make at least 50k...at least--she'd have a great chance to beat Shane or Dan as well.
[B]It amazes me these idiots still trust Dan[/B][/QUOTE]
It's like he stares at them, starts talking, and then the rest of their eyes glaze over. That's why Dan is becoming the best player to ever play this game.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;317710]It's like he stares at them, starts talking, and then the rest of their eyes glaze over. That's why Dan is becoming the best player to ever play this game.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't go that far--I still consider him 3rd but you're right--they like look into his eyes and just agree to whatever he says
Getting Britney out was Dan's best play--she was the only one after him.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;317712]I wouldn't go that far--I still consider him 3rd but you're right--they like look into his eyes and just agree to whatever he says
Getting Britney out was Dan's best play--she was the only one after him.[/QUOTE]
Who do you put over Dan other than Dr. Will?
I have Dan at 2nd, but if he wins this game for a second time, that will for sure be changing.
Getting Britney out was Dan's bets move, but he first had to convince Frank that he wasn't the snake. That definitely took a lot of thought and planning before Dan could have pulled that off.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;317714]Who do you put over Dan other than Dr. Will?
I have Dan at 2nd, but if he wins this game for a second time, that will for sure be changing.
Getting Britney out was Dan's bets move, but he first had to convince Frank that he wasn't the snake. That definitely took a lot of thought and planning before Dan could have pulled that off.[/QUOTE]
Danielle Reyes (S3 & All-Stars). I think her social game was the best ever and I consider her to have won S3--only reason she didn't was there wasn't a jury.
Dan did an amazing job with Frank but it was ****** that created that possibility. Frank (who I said was an idiot from the beginning) wanted Dan out from the beginning (only he and Britney saw that) but Dan touches a bible and Frank (supposedly a superfan) falls for it? I mean, Dan's great. He's an elite player. Top 3 for sure. But I really don't understand how these people (especially Ian, Frank and the returning players) fell for this--at all. It just doesn't make sense to me. Dan will always lie and there's nothing wrong with that--in fact, its great game play. But, this isn't his first rodeo--no one should be buying this.
If Dan does reach the F2 I think he should win but these newbies are idiots IMO
[QUOTE=kvm1977;317715]Dan did an amazing job with Frank but it was ****** that created that possibility. Frank (who I said was an idiot from the beginning) wanted Dan out from the beginning (only he and Britney saw that) but Dan touches a bible and Frank (supposedly a superfan) falls for it? I mean, Dan's great. He's an elite player. Top 3 for sure. But I really don't understand how these people (especially Ian, Frank and the returning players) fell for this--at all. It just doesn't make sense to me. Dan will always lie and there's nothing wrong with that--in fact, its great game play. But, this isn't his first rodeo--no one should be buying this.
If Dan does reach the F2 I think he should win but these newbies are idiots IMO[/QUOTE]
That's still part of the game though, whether ****** helped out Dan in the long run. Dan still had to plan it out on what he was going to tell Frank and how he was going to manipulate his way through it. If Frank and Ian are superfans, they wouldn't have fallen for it, but for some reason everyone always listens to Dan. If that doesn't prove a good manipulative social game, then I don't know what does.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;317717]That's still part of the game though, whether ****** helped out Dan in the long run. Dan still had to plan it out on what he was going to tell Frank and how he was going to manipulate his way through it. If Frank and Ian are superfans, they wouldn't have fallen for it, but for some reason everyone always listens to Dan. If that doesn't prove a good manipulative social game, then I don't know what does.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying Dan isn't a great manipulator.
That's why I consider him a top 3 player ever and before this season I didn't
[QUOTE=kvm1977;317719]I'm not saying Dan isn't a great manipulator.
That's why I consider him a top 3 player ever and before this season I didn't[/QUOTE]
You're the first person and first Big Brother fan that I've ever known to think that.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;317721]You're the first person and first Big Brother fan that I've ever known to think that.[/QUOTE]
America voted out Jessie for him which created the April-Ollie-Michelle-Jerry vs. Keesha-Libra-Renny rift that put Memphis & Dan in a great position to slide through. Though Dan gets credit for shutting up & putting himself in a position that no matter what America decided he would have been in a good spot but "America" helped him out greatly IMO.
Dan played a great game in Season 10 and I had him in the top 5 but not the top 3. I always thought Dan was slightly overrated because people simply liked him. Kind of like Janelle.
I've been much more impressed with Dan's game this season. I think he's executed it to perfection--and if Dani saves him tonight and he evicts Shane it will only prove that further.
Again, always considered him great--just not top 3 prior to this year.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;317706]If Dan evicts Ian, he will be in a 1-on-2 HandicapFinal HOH. Because Shane/Dani wont take him. So for him in this case is either win or lose.
Whereas if Dan evicts Shane, he will be in a 2-on-1 Handicap Final HOH, where he doesnt need to win, because both Ian and Dani will take him regardless.
Plus at this point, if Shane gets in the f2, he will win this game, because nobody is mad at him. NOBODY.
Ashley is mad at Ian
Britney is mad at Dan/ maybe Dani if Frank told her that
Frank is mad at Dan/Ian/Dani
Joe just doesnt want Dan to win it
Jenn is mad at Ian[/QUOTE]
I don't look at the game like that. First of all, I think Dani would take Dan over Shane to the final 2, giving Dan "2-on-1" no matter who goes home. So Dan's real question is, who does he want to sit in the final 2 with, Ian or Danielle? Shane is not going to win final HOH. Danielle is probably not going to win final HOH. Ian is Dan's biggest competition in both final HOH AND jury votes. So, imo, Ian should be Dan's target. With Ian gone, I think Dan can easily win the game.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;317709]
It amazes me these idiots still trust Dan[/QUOTE]
I still think it has a lot to do with his religious attitude, his job (motivation speeker) and sympathy how Dan played in S10. If a christian, who is considered as a very loyal player( Death before dishonor), would talk to me and tell me that he want to work with me and be in an alliance with me, I would trust him. And probably 95 % of the viewer, too. It is not that they are idiots. Dan made with everybody in the house F2/F3/F4 deals and he knew, when he had to made them. When public enemy no.1 was evicted.
[QUOTE=RMD1;317760]It really looks like this is going to go down. If it does the 2 best players of this season are in the final 3. This hasn't happened in a while![/QUOTE]
If Ian, Dani & Dan are the final 3 then the 3 that played the best games made it to the end IMO. I'd love to see that happen--JMO
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