Real World: Tonya Cooley - Sues MTV For Alleged Assault

[QUOTE=townie;322234]Anybody who believed there was ever any validity to these claims is a complete buffoon.[/QUOTE] Care to tell us why?

[QUOTE=townie;322234]Anybody who believed there was ever any validity to these claims is a complete buffoon.[/QUOTE] How do you know that? You weren't there, CT wasn't there either. I'm also leaning towards it not being true but we can't know for sure. As Vman would say these things don't go to trial without evidence, I don't think Tonya is just making it up for money but the people who told her aren't saying anything so who knows what really happened.

[QUOTE=Blue123;322280]How do you know that? You weren't there, CT wasn't there either. I'm also leaning towards it not being true but we can't know for sure. As Vman would say these things don't go to trial without evidence, I don't think Tonya is just making it up for money but [B]the people who told her aren't saying anything[/B] so who knows what really happened.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't necessarily say that. I highly doubt Katie was the only person from that cast asked to testify. The others may have voluntarily given information.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;322278]Care to tell us why?[/QUOTE] I second this. What got me was the next post that said "you weren't there. Neither was CT." Lol right now I can't even function. All in all this is getting very interesting. And juicy. Time for Wendy and hot topics. *runs to the left of the screen*

[quote=Sloan] I disagree with this. Lots of companies (hospitals for example) will settle with almost everyone who sues them, even if the person doing the suing won't win their case, because they don't want the negative publicity of a trial. Even if the allegations prove to be untrue at trial, it's damaging to MTV to have people even talking about their cast members running around assaulting people with toothbrushes. I think MTV is probably highly motivated to settle regardless of whether Tonya's claims are true or not. Remember there's always the possibility that they haven't settled because Tonya has rejected any settlements offered to her. Which would seem to give credence to the idea that she really believes these allegations are true and wants to go to trial based on principle.[/QUOTE] You just said you disagreed with me but repeated what i said. Like we both said, if there was any validity to this mtv would have settled the trial, and these allegations would have never seen the light of day. Tonya has nothing to gain by going to trial, because this is not a criminal trial, it is a civil suit. If Kenny and Evan are found guilty, they will not go to jail. Both these men still work for MtV in visible capacities, the are not being paid to sit at home which often happens in cases like this. This leads me to believe that mtv feels Tonya's claims are baseless and that she has no case.

Also Johnny was not involved. If you were not sure you should not have posted, it is incredibly irresponsible to say to people uniformed about the case, that he might be sued for rape.

[QUOTE=jefflevi89;322425]You just said you disagreed with me but repeated what i said. Like we both said, if there was any validity to this mtv would have settled the trial, and these allegations would have never seen the light of day. Tonya has nothing to gain by going to trial, because this is not a criminal trial, it is a civil suit. If Kenny and Evan are found guilty, they will not go to jail. Both these men still work for MtV in visible capacities, the are not being paid to sit at home which often happens in cases like this. This leads me to believe that mtv feels Tonya's claims are baseless and that she has no case.[/QUOTE] What I meant was, I don't think the fact that MTV hasn't settled has anything to do with the validity of Tonya's claims. You're saying that if there was any validity to her claims then MTV would've settled already. I'm saying that MTV is probably highly motivated to settle whether her claims are valid or not. To me, the lack of a settlement has less to do with the validity of Tonya's claims and more to do with Tonya not wanting to settle. I would be shocked if MTV hasn't offered her a settlement by now; I have to assume that this is going to trial because Tonya (not MTV) wants it that way and has rejected whatever settlement has been offered. I realize that this is a civil suit and not a criminal trial, but Tonya has plenty to gain anyway. Under the assumption that she believes these allegations are true, then proving it at trial could give her a lot of emotional validation, damage the reputation of all of the defendants, lead to a safer environment on future challenges, and give her a sizable monetary reward. I don't know if these allegations are true or not. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. But I don't think that the lack of a settlement means anything with regard to whether or not Tonya's claims are true.

[url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/real-world-rape-mtv-tanya-382809]Real World Rape? MTV, Tanya Cooley Settle Lawsuit - Hollywood Reporter[/url] Out of court settlement. The inevitable. What Viacom had to say: [QUOTE][Tonya] failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains. For example, while she was a contestant on The Ruins, Plaintiff was frequently intoxicated (to an extent far greater than other contestants), rowdy, combative, flirtatious and on multiple occasions intentionally exposed her bare breasts and genitalia to other contestants.[/QUOTE] Lovely.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;323968][url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/real-world-rape-mtv-tanya-382809]Real World Rape? MTV, Tanya Cooley Settle Lawsuit - Hollywood Reporter[/url] Out of court settlement. The inevitable. What Viacom had to say: Lovely.[/QUOTE] That statement disgusts me. Since when is it acceptable to blame the victim? Essentially they're saying she deserved to be raped with a toothbrush because she was frequently drunk and sometimes flashed people? That's ridiculous and despicable.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;323971]That statement disgusts me. Since when is it acceptable to blame the victim? Essentially they're saying she deserved to be raped with a toothbrush because she was frequently drunk and sometimes flashed people? That's ridiculous and despicable.[/QUOTE] I know right, had to double read just to make sure I read it correctly.

So basically it happened but they're blaming her for it? That's just ****ty and low. Bmp needs to make sure nothing like this happens anymore(and they could start by not bringing back Kenny and Evan).

She "failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains??" Way to victim-blame, Viacom. I don't care if she was drinking tequila and running around naked all the live-long day, that doesn't mean what (allegedly) happened is excusable. I do hope Tonya feels some sort of closure, if that's possible, now that this is over.

Maybe they're implying it was consensual and she simply doesn't recall agreeing to it but regardless this doesn't make them look good. Of course, it is standard practice in these cases to attack the victim. See any high profile case for example. Big Ben, Kobe, etc. The only thing you have in these cases is attacking their character.

[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;323983]She "failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains??" Way to victim-blame, Viacom. I don't care if she was drinking tequila and running around naked all the live-long day, that doesn't mean what (allegedly) happened is excusable. I do hope Tonya feels some sort of closure, if that's possible, now that this is over.[/QUOTE] I agree 100% with this. They pretty much said it happened and she had it coming. I hope she got a nice settlement for this.

Disgusting statement, I'm basically speechless.

Let's hold our horses, folks. I've been quiet on this subject for nearly three years, and I'm not going to say too much in the future since Tonya is in a great place in her life, emotionally, spiritually and physically. It's been a tough three-year journey for her. The statement attributed to Viacom in the Hollywood Reporter is from a January court filing. It was not something released today in response to the leak of a pending settlement. VIACOM must have concluded that their words didn't have merit, and perhaps would have done them considerable harm with any jury. Since that Jan court filing, a couple of US politicians have found themselves in hot water with their comments about rape which were unkind to victims. Events in real life outside of court can often leave a a bitter taste to poorly considered words in court.

Thank you for the clarification, V. I'm glad to hear Tonya is in a good place.

I'm happy to inform the vevmo family that Tonya will be married in Hawaii in December. In the past three years, while this case was ongoing, she has fought through two difficult bouts of cancer with their attendent chemo and radiation treatments. She's doing very well now and will be Dr. free for the next six months until her next checkup.

Awesome. I wish nothing but the best for Tonya.

That's really good to hear. Cancer is a mean *****, but I'm glad she's on the up and up. Also, wedding in Hawaii sound amazing. Many congrats to her!

That's great to hear about Tonya..Good to hear that she's doing well in her life. I wish her nothing but the Best.

[QUOTE=V1man;324025]I'm happy to inform the vevmo family that Tonya will be married in Hawaii in December. In the past three years, while this case was ongoing, she has fought through two difficult bouts of cancer with their attendent chemo and radiation treatments. She's doing very well now and will be Dr. free for the next six months until her next checkup.[/QUOTE] Thanks for sharing, V! It's really great to hear that she's in a better place now!

[QUOTE=V1man;324025]I'm happy to inform the vevmo family that Tonya will be married in Hawaii in December. In the past three years, while this case was ongoing, she has fought through two difficult bouts of cancer with their attendent chemo and radiation treatments. She's doing very well now and will be Dr. free for the next six months until her next checkup.[/QUOTE] It's good to hear that she finally has her life together. It looked like she was doing so much better on The Inferno 3 and The Island, but she came onto the Ruins and was a complete train wreck. I don't think there's ever been a RW cast member who has gone through as much as she has, both on and off the show. As much as I like Tonya on challenges, I hope she never does another. It was never a good environment for her to begin with, and now with her head finally being in the right place plus there being so many new people it doesn't seem like it should be her scene anymore. I can't believe she had cancer, do you know what type?

That statement doesn't deserve much of a response from me.... Horrible. I am happy Tonya is doing well now. I wish her all the best.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;324046]Thanks for sharing, V! It's really great to hear that she's in a better place now![/QUOTE] This was the first post I saw while scrolling up the page rather quickly, so I'm glad she's not dead because that's where my mind went. Totally misread. :wacko2: I'm glad to hear she's doing well now! She'll always be a favorite of mine, but like Challengegod said, I don't want to see her do another since hearing how well she's done for herself away from the camera.

[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;324054]This was the first post I saw while scrolling up the page rather quickly, so I'm glad she's not dead because that's where my mind went. Totally misread. :wacko2: [/QUOTE] OMG I didn't even think about how that sounded!

That's terrible to hear about the cancer. :( :( She can't catch a break. Do you know what kind it is?

I am really happy to hear Tonya is in a better place in her life. Hopefully she can continue to be happy and healthy.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;323968][url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/real-world-rape-mtv-tanya-382809]Real World Rape? MTV, Tanya Cooley Settle Lawsuit - Hollywood Reporter[/url] Out of court settlement. The inevitable. What Viacom had to say: [Tonya] failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains. For example, while she was a contestant on The Ruins, Plaintiff was frequently intoxicated (to an extent far greater than other contestants), rowdy, combative, flirtatious and on multiple occasions intentionally exposed her bare breasts and genitalia to other contestants. Lovely.[/QUOTE] You've got to be sh**ing me... This was an actual statement released by a person representing Viacom?! I am not gonna comment on the actual deed, but this wording is disgusting... I really can't imagine this being legit.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;324242]You´ve got to be sh**ing me... This was an actual statement released by a person representing Viacom?! I am not gonna comment on the actual deed, but this wording is disgusting... I really can´t imagine this being legit[/QUOTE] If you read back a bit you see it was not a statement in response to the settlement. Neither side will likely be commenting other than to say that a settlement was reached. The quote you saw was from the defendant's response in January in court documents to what Tonya's attorneys had filed. The [I]Hollywood Reporter[/I] probably dug out those words from the documents because they are so polarizing.