[QUOTE=_tasha;331831]I would consider Wes' FM wins, his. He pretty much did win them by himself.[/QUOTE]
Just playing Devil's Advocate here.
I don't remember Wes ever putting Casey on his back and carrying her through the entire Exile.
[QUOTE=Klounsnax2.0;331838]Just playing Devil's Advocate here.
I don't remember Wes ever putting Casey on his back and carrying her through the entire Exile.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and I suppose he didn't carry all of her bags for her either. Point is that she did nothing to help him. What I consider a "team win" is when they both put in the same amount of work and win together. If anything she probably slowed him down. Had Casey not been there the result would've still been the same. He just would've had to do LESS work.
btw, I tried the whole "But she ran" argument during the Cara Maria/Laurel Rivals discussion. Been there done that. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now.
[QUOTE=Klounsnax2.0;331838]Just playing Devil's Advocate here.
I don't remember Wes ever putting Casey on his back and carrying her through the entire Exile.[/QUOTE]
The one against Johanna saw Casey already tired and running slow after about 5 minutes when she wasn't even carrying anything
Yeah Sarah and Cara Maria are definitely not below average. They both have strengths that can be VERY useful in a final. If I had to go into anything eating related, I want CM on my team
In defense of teams such as Danny/Evelyn and Tonya/Johnnie (who were much better teams physically than Wes/Casey) they really only lost because the Exiles were unfairly based on the weight of luggage. Danny had most of Melindas luggage and Tonya brought some crazy amount.
I would really liked to have seen that challenge played out fairley, cause I think we would have gotten a much more competitive/dramatic/fair season/ending.
I would like to see some of these rookie girls compete on a 1 on 1 level. Like Ashley, Nany, Marie and McKenzie specifically. I think they had the most potential athletic capabilities out of the rooks but I don't think we got to see them really perform much physically.
[QUOTE=spinica;331847]I've heard that the real world Portland won't be airing until March. Does that mean they won't start filming another challenge until after that?[/QUOTE]
Technically, it doesn't mean anything.
Tyler and a couple others have been getting calls for the next challenge, but I'm not sure when it will start filming. I'm not sure what the normal gap is between availability calls and flying out is.. (If Molds or V1 might have the 411 on this)
Jessica, Joi, and Jordan have expressed that they want to be on the next challenge but I'm not sure if they've gotten calls yet. If any PDX roommates are on the next challenge, it wouldn't matter when their season airs because BMP would put them on; doesn't matter they get to see it or not - I remember this was the case with Rachel during Battle of the sexes because Campus Crawl was airing while she was on the Challenge and I [I]think[/I] St. Thomas too.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;331853]Technically, it doesn't mean anything.
Tyler and a couple others have been getting calls for the next challenge, but I'm not sure when it will start filming. I'm not sure what the normal gap is between availability calls and flying out is.. (If Molds or V1 might have the 411 on this)
Jessica, Joi, and Jordan have expressed that they want to be on the next challenge but I'm not sure if they've gotten calls yet. If any PDX roommates are on the next challenge, it wouldn't matter when their season airs because BMP would put them on; doesn't matter they get to see it or not - I remember this was the case with Rachel during Battle of the sexes because Campus Crawl was airing while she was on the Challenge and I [I]think[/I] St. Thomas too.[/QUOTE]
Yes I think your right! St. Thomas didn't air until June and they were already in Turkey filming at that point!
[QUOTE=spinica;331862]Yes I think your right! St. Thomas didn't air until June and they were already in Turkey filming at that point![/QUOTE]
Rivals was completely filmed before Vegas aired.
[QUOTE=Lola88;331825]Bahaha what? This either a joke or just a biased opinion for your dislike of these girls. Clearly Sarah is one of the top 5 girls that have competed on the last 5 seasons at least. Cara Maria has had some luck on her side but she's at least average. I think Sarah could win a duel, even against laurel, ev or Emily. Those girls are strong but not invincible.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I am biased, I am not afraid to admit it. Ever since Sarah and Katelyn lost to Jonna and Jasmine in a puzzle I lost a lot of respect for Sarah that day. That elimination round was meant for her team to win. As a matter of fact, that elimination round for Sarah and Katelyn could have beaten any team there and to lose to Jonna and Jasmine of all teams was shocking.
As for Cara Maria, having Darrel and Abram as a partner and to not make it half way through the show is not a good look in my eyes. I mean we're talking arguably top ten competitors of all time...
I don't think they're terrible but I wouldn't be shocked if they were to leave the challenges without a win.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;331819]Yap, and it´s not like he is the first person to do so;) This rumor has been around for years. lol[/QUOTE]
who are the other people who have stated this? This is completely new to me! lol Imagine the biggest Alpha male on the show came out of the closet! lmao
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331865]who are the other people who have stated this? This is completely new to me! lol Imagine the biggest Alpha male on the show came out of the closet! lmao[/QUOTE]
I heard they live together, but i know he has a g/f....Just the inferno 1 rumor about him and Shane is only thing i ever heard and JEK bashed him so bad on podcasts and have gone as low to mention his possible drug use but not his possible bisexuality so i highly doubt the rumor is true or they would have given him so much crap for it. Just my thoughts so take it for what it is. I never believed the Shane rumor anyway not that 1 hookup would make him gay. Could have just been a kiss like Zach/Frank did and some people call that "hookup" so who knows.
As far as the challenge, they usually (or would like to) film the challenge while the rw season airs so they can show it right after, so they probably are trying to get the cast together now if their is another season which i honestly really think their will be one. I can't wait for the new speculation and departure spoilers etc and to forget about this cakewalk win for team san diego and to get real alpha males in their to compete with Frank/Zach
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331864]Maybe I am biased, I am not afraid to admit it. Ever since Sarah and Katelyn lost to Jonna and Jasmine in a puzzle I lost a lot of respect for Sarah that day. That elimination round was meant for her team to win. As a matter of fact, that elimination round for Sarah and Katelyn could have beaten any team there and to lose to Jonna and Jasmine of all teams was shocking.
As for Cara Maria, having Darrel and Abram as a partner and to not make it half way through the show is not a good look in my eyes. I mean we're talking arguably top ten competitors of all time...
I don't think they're terrible but I wouldn't be shocked if they were to leave the challenges without a win.[/QUOTE]
Her and Darell lost because they both are horrible when it comes to puzzles. Pete and Jillian beat them because they solved the puzzles and Darell/Cara Maria essentially had to wait out 30 minutes trying to solve something they couldn't.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;331869]Her and Darell lost because they both are horrible when it comes to puzzles. Pete and Jillian beat them because they solved the puzzles and Darell/Cara Maria essentially had to wait out 30 minutes trying to solve something they couldn't.[/QUOTE]
You are correct. So would you say Jillian is better than Cara Maria? And her BOTE performances with Abram was really sub par.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331871]You are correct. So would you say Jillian is better than Cara Maria? And her BOTE performances with Abram was really sub par.[/QUOTE]
No I wouldn't say Jillian is better. Jillian's endurance wasn't all that great as seen in their 2nd exile and to an extent the final, compared to Cara Maria finishing Cutthroat and Rivals without from what we saw slowing down.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;331873]No I wouldn't say Jillian is better. Jillian's endurance wasn't all that great as seen in their 2nd exile and to an extent the final, compared to Cara Maria finishing Cutthroat and Rivals without from what we saw slowing down.[/QUOTE]
The real question is can Cara maria get to the final by herself? She doesn't have good politics and her athletic ability is mediocre at best. I mean give me a good example to where she impressed us? I mean with BMP casting lately I guess anything is possible. I am just looking at all the females who have participated on the challenges; Cara Maria is not very impressive.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331876][B]The real question is can Cara maria get to the final by herself?[/B] She doesn't have good politics and her athletic ability is mediocre at best. I mean give me a good example to where she impressed us? I mean with BMP casting lately I guess anything is possible. I am just looking at all the females who have participated on the challenges; Cara Maria is not very impressive.[/QUOTE]
I dont even think the answer to that question would matter to you since your opinions are completely biased. Sarah has made it to the end of a challenge by herself twice + with a team of 4, losing only 2 eliminations (1 of which was not her fault that her partner couldnt keep up physically, the other wasnt even a physical challenge) yet you still call her a below average female competitor.
So does this make Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, Kelly Anne, Rachel R and Tonya all average?
[QUOTE=Lola88;331878]I dont even think the answer to that question would matter to you since your opinions are completely biased. Sarah has made it to the end of a challenge by herself twice + with a team of 4, losing only 2 eliminations (1 of which was not her fault that her partner couldnt keep up physically, the other wasnt even a physical challenge) yet you still call her a below average female competitor.
So does this make Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, Kelly Anne, Rachel R and Tonya all average?[/QUOTE]
I thought we were talking about Cara Maria not Sarah? I'm just trying to see if I am missing something about Cara Maria being a good competitor. Since everybody is saying she's good maybe I am missing something, but no one has swayed my mind otherwise.
Sarah lost to a better team on fresh meat 2 but her loss on rivals is no excuse! Especially with Katelyn who is terrible at everything... except for puzzles. According to my memory, Sarah messed up that elimination round as well.
Those are great competitors and Tonya shouldn't be mentioned in the same league as the others.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331879]I thought we were talking about Cara Maria not Sarah? I'm just trying to see if I am missing something about Cara Maria being a good competitor. Since everybody is saying she's good maybe I am missing something, but no one has swayed my mind otherwise.
Sarah lost to a better team on fresh meat 2 but her loss on rivals is no excuse! Especially with Katelyn who is terrible at everything... except for puzzles. According to my memory, Sarah messed up that elimination round as well.
Those are great competitors and Tonya shouldn't be mentioned in the same league as the others.[/QUOTE]
Cara Maria was the second best out of all the Fresh Meat II girls. Theresa would be, in my eyes, the ideal example of an average competitor. Cara Maria is stronger, faster, has more endurance and is more intelligent than Theresa.
Listening Tonya among those girls may be a bit shocking, but in all actuality, she is not a bad competitor. On The Ruins, she was easily the third best girl on that team, bettered only by Susie and Ev. She has some huge elimination round wins against some strong women, most notably Julie from Inferno II. I would say Tonya is one of the better female challenge competitors in history. Is she as great as Ev? No. But she is better than Veronica, Anessa and Coral, as far as physical abilities go.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;331861]How often did Casey and Wes win because people forgot to get their flags?[/QUOTE]
The clear answer here is "too often."
I do not know why Casey was brought back as often as she was. She is easily one of the worst competitors in history. Although I wouldn't be surprised if she could beat some girls (Shauvon, Melissa from RW: New Orleans, Jisela come to mind).
I agree that Cara Maria is better than Theresa but mentally she like psyches herself out or something. And I think Theresa will get in her head and possibly beat her but that's just going off on a tangent.
And ya Tonya is pretty good, but I wouldn't say that about those girls. Coral and Veronica are kind of like JEK as in not going in an elimination rounds except maybe once a show or something. But Anessa would win physically straight up.
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Damn it's going down! Lol.[/QUOTE]
Funny that Davis would take to running his mouth from the friendly confines of Twitter about CT when the two of them have been present together at numerous functions in the 5 years since Inferno 3 and Davis has never voiced any resentment face-to-face with him about what happened. Guess he didn't learn his lesson the first time.
[QUOTE=townie;331883]Funny that Davis would take to running his mouth from the friendly confines of Twitter about CT when the two of them have been present together at numerous functions in the 5 years since Inferno 3 and Davis has never voiced any resentment face-to-face with him about what happened. Guess he didn't learn his lesson the first time.[/QUOTE]
soooo... did Ct hook up with Shane or no?
[QUOTE=TheCloser;331884]soooo... did Ct hook up with Shane or no?[/QUOTE]
Obviously no one on here can confirm it because we have never been on a challenge. Since Davis is running his mouth, you'd be better off tweeting him that question.
While I would welcome CT to our big a*s qu*er community with open arms I hope this isn't true; He and Diem were always the cutest couple to me
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;331886]While I would welcome CT to our big a*s qu*er community with open arms I hope this isn't true; He and Diem were always the cutest couple to me[/QUOTE]
Wait, can a man not be ********?
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