[QUOTE=Nightwolf;342814]Seems to me like V1 knows who is still there and is subtly explaining such whenever someone thinks they may have evidence[/QUOTE]
Who,me? I can do subtle or direct, but there is always a purpose.
This is why I encourage dual-sourcing.
We all thought it was a 3 team race, something happened to Zach.....and it better not be lame like Knight/Preston beating them. I thought 1 of the "top 3 teams" would be gone in the last elimination but I think Zach/Trey were gone Ep6 which is pretty ******. But I dont think theres anything tragic about the final 4, its mind boggling that Preston is there but that could be strategy and I'm gona guess Marlon/Jordan are doing a Mike/Leroy kind thing like on rivals 1. Its actually exactly like rivals 1, the teams we all thought were gona be at the end were right but they lost Evan along the way (on purpose) and a strong team loses at the final elimination. And statistically, johnny or CT have gone in the final elimination, so I wonder if that will happen again this time
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;342819]How? We all knew 2 out of 4 of them would be make the final.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say anything about physicality or predictability. Each team has at least one jerk, if not two.
I think Johhny is an a hole. Frank is a jerk. CT is a bully and a jerk. Wes probably isn't a jerk in real life but he comes across as an idiot on these things. Jordan is a jerk and Knight is a jerk. I also don't care for Preston, I think he's over-the-top.
So basically the only male that I can tolerate that is left in the game is Marlon. Not that I even liked the eliminated male teams, but I was hoping LeRoy/Ty would get the win, just because LeRoy is my favorite guy and I can tolerate Ty.
After I saw the cast and found out the pair, I expected these would be the final four:
1. CT/Wes
2. Johnny/Frank
3. Leroy/Ty
4. Marlon/Jordan
CT/Wes: Both are great climbers (We saw Wes in Rivals when he in the elimination and CT is a beast of climber (only Landon, Alton, Leroy and Abe are better climbers...See CT in the Duel elimination against Evan and in the Duel monkey bars challenge where he beat Brad who is a great climber too ... I know CT got DQed on last challenge on Rivals, but that was because the helicoptor was too close to the water for them and most confirmed that), athletic, strong (Well Wes looked scrawny at the last challenge), and have strong ties to the strong teams: Johnny/Frank (CT and Johnny worked together so their relationship trumps Johnny's distrust toward Wes), Leroy/Ty (Leroy is cool with CT and Ty was friendly with CT toward the end of Exes), Emily/Paula (CT and Johnny are cool with Emily and Paula is cool with Johnny, Leroy and Ty), Cara Marie and Cooke (Cara is cool with CT even though she and Wes aint that cool), and Camilla and Jimmye (Camilla is cool with Johnny and CT).
Johnny/Frank: Johnny's alliances as explained above about CT/Wes, Johnny is a very good overall competitor with no weaknesses, and Frank is fit.
Leroy/Ty: Alliances, athletic, and good competitors.
Marlon/Jordan: Both are fit and athletic (We saw Jordan wake boarding and Marlon played D1 football...However, I do note that MJ played for Vanderbilt as a Wide Receiver and he wasn't a beast in these challenges). Jordan reminds me so much of Johnny as far him rubbing people off the wrong way. I do think that they would make a great athletic pair because wake boarding is tough.
Girls:
1. Paula/Emily
2. Cara Marie and Cooke (Cooke was a soccer player)
3. Jimmye and Camilla (Jimmye is a softball player and Camilla is pretty atheltic
4. Trishelle and Sarah
Paula/Emily: Alliances, athletic, etc. They have ties to CT, Johnny, and Ty.
Cara Marie and Cooke: Both are athletic and have no drama with each other; Cara Marie has ties to CT and Johnny
Jimmye and Camilla: Connections to Johnny, Ty, and CT via Camilla, and both are athletic.
Aneesa and Diem: Anessa is a beast in eliminations, and strong ties to CT.
Notes:
I think Preston/Knight made it this far because 1. They wanted to keep a weak team in the end and 2. Jimmye may be protecting Knight and included Knight as part of the alliance.
Sarah and Trishelle may have DQed on the first challenge and lost early to probably rookies Jessica and Anastasia.
Frank and Knight probably turned on Zach. The alliance may have identified Zach/Trey and Marlon/Jordan as threats or maybe Trey refused to work with the Alliance because he knew his team would be at the bottom. Regardless, I think Frank turned his back on Zach. Frank watches the show a lot as evidence of his knowledge of Challenge Trivia in the Trivia Challenge in BOTS (He knew where the Island was filmed!).
Predictions:
1st Place: CT/Wes
2nd Place: Johnny/Frank
3rd Place: Marlon/Jordan
1st Place: Emily/Paula
2nd Place: Cooke/Cara Marie
3rd Place: Jimmye/Camilla
Hopefully, CT/Wes or Johnny/Frank wins. However, even if Johnny wins, it's hard for me to say he is the best competitor when Tyler eliminated him twice. I think that by judging how skinny Wes was in the last challenge, he may have started running more and focusing less on weights.
I'm going to go with CT/Wes because I see Johnny/Frank arguing too much during the finals. Johnny and Frank will try to argue about who will lead; I see that as their downfall. Wes already admitted on Derrick's podcat that CT is the best athlete ever on the Challenge so he will let CT lead. CT learned about pacing himself from the finals from Exs.
Hopefully the next Challenge is the Duel!
[QUOTE=Blue123;342821]We all thought it was a 3 team race, something happened to Zach.....and it better not be lame like Knight/Preston beating them. I thought 1 of the "top 3 teams" would be gone in the last elimination but I think Zach/Trey were gone Ep6 which is pretty ******. But I dont think theres anything tragic about the final 4, its mind boggling that Preston is there but that could be strategy and I'm gona guess Marlon/Jordan are doing a Mike/Leroy kind thing like on rivals 1. Its actually exactly like rivals 1, the teams we all thought were gona be at the end were right but they lost Evan along the way (on purpose) and a strong team loses at the final elimination. And statistically, johnny or CT have gone in the final elimination, so I wonder if that will happen again this time[/QUOTE]
Why are we underestimating Knight/preston....
[QUOTE=dbrower;342825]After I saw the cast and found out the pair, I expected these would be the final four:
1. CT/Wes
2. Johnny/Frank
3. Leroy/Ty
4. Marlon/Jordan[/QUOTE]
You may very well be correct as far as the dynamic in the final between Johnny/Frank. I think ultimately Frank will let Johnny set the pace though. Don't under-estimate JB. Yes you're technically correct in saying Tyler eliminated him twice but dont forget that 1st time in Duel 1 in that fluky game of "I can lift 50 watermelon....ok do it." That game in the dual 1 was a joke. Not only for JB and Tyler but everyone who unfortunately had the bad luck of getting that. Also keep in mind those early challenge eliminations of JB was before he started getting serious about his challenge preparations. If you follow his twitter you know before this challenge he was high altitude training in Lake Tahoe. As far as the male teams that are left Johnny/Frank, CT/Wes, and Marlon/Jordan it will be very interesting to see how it pans out. Another thing to keep in mind is while Johnny was training for this challenge CT was in Havasu on a month long spring break gig. Id like to believe CT improved his stamina since ex's but with that schedule I doubt it. I also haven't mentioned Knight/Preston mainly because I think any challenge fan who has watched over the years can see with 4 teams left, the politics have panned out as this clearly being the buffer team between the 3 very athletic teams and then Knight/Preston as the buffer to be the last male elimination before the final. Maybe Marlon/Jordan managed their way into the alliance and got some protection. Or maybe they were recognized as a strong team and earned their way to the final. JEK had mentioned in a tweet about Zach running into a freight train of sorts after his elimination. Perhaps it was a Marlon reference with his football background. One last thing Id like to point out about Bananas is his will power going into this challenge is perhaps the most intense of all his challenges yet. He has alot riding on this challenge. First of all with the way Kenny and Evan got screwed out of being on this challenge when both have been doing crossfit and are both ripped. He is carrying the torch for the dynasty and you better believe he has a big chip on his shoulder from that. Second point Id like to make is if he wins it would be win number 5 for him. Whether you, me, or anyone out there calls him the greatest challenge competitor is moot because he would be able to say that for himself as being the only competitor with 5 wins. The third point I have his another chip on his shoulder is from the rookie revolution. He is really pissed about last season and the ease ZKF had in being able to run the house with minimal veteran interference. He is out to prove the veterans can still hold their own and without Kenny and Evan, and many other good vets, he is carrying the weight of that situation too. And there is just one more point to consider or chip on his shoulder if you will, and that is the whole BMP thing. I dont want to get into it or say anything inappropriate but after what fans had hoped to see and what BMP/MTV did to make this challenge happen when we all know it very well could be the last. Well its just one more reason for him to be pissed off. Not trying to stir the pot just my point of view going into the final shortly with what we know from Molds information.
If the finals are Wes/CT vs Johnny/Frank vs Jordan/Marlon & Paula/Emily vs Cooke/Cara Maria vs Nany/Jonna I'd have to say that would be an interesting final. For the girls I fully expect Paula & Emily to win I don't see how the other girl teams can win I mean Cooke is a wild card she might be a beast and good at solving puzzles for all we know, Nany and Jonna might be a good team as well but I don't see them winning this. As for the guys I really don't know who will win Jordan & Marlon might be a beast team they're both former D-1 College athletes and both seem intelligent so they might be good at solving puzzles so they could be a scary team in the end, CT & Wes are a mystery to me CT has always been a beast but him ******** out on Exes really shocked people and Wes who knows what kind of shape he's in and if he can handle a final, and Johnny & Frank the only question is can they get along during the final we seen how they both are during the final like how Frank yelled at Sam and how Johnny yelled at Camilla.
I have a hard time believing that even if Wes has worked on his cardio between BOTS and this one that he can hang with Johnny, who has been in "final challenge shape" for years and trains like an animal and Frank, who everyone has said is an endurance monster potentially in the same class as Kenny and Tyler. Obviously the final will have other elements that level the playing field but if it were just a go run 15 miles type of thing I'd bet on Johnny and Frank any day of the week.
I know that we're past moaning about who is with who but I really think BMP ******* the bed on this one with the pairs. If you look at Rivals 1 who, within their pairs, actually fought? Jasmine and Jonna at the beginning, Evan and Nehemiah a bit, and while Kenny and Wes didn't like each other they didn't actually argue until the last episode. I think you want people who have a rivalry history on teams together, but you have to keep the people who really don't like each other separate. The fights on Rivals 1 were JEK and Wes/CT, Jenn/Cara, Laurel/Paula, Theresa and Camila/Jonna and Jasmine. Few of these people are dumb enough or actually hate each other enough, to say screw the money, I want to fight with you instead of figuring out how we can get along and win.
By not pairing Johnny and CT, they basically took away the infighting that could've happened between Johnny/CT/Wes/Frank because now, like on exes, they're probably going to work together and say let's just see what happens in the final whereas I'd bet if Frank/Wes were a team, there wouldn't be an alliance with CT/Johnny and they'd be going at each other the whole time. Now we have a rivalry based on twitter and a potentially interesting dynamic gone.
I'm not typically one to moan about the show. I love the show. Even last season which had no one I liked on it was fun to watch. It just seems like an opportunity for some explosive fights was wasted. I would think that since the show seems to be more interested in fights (I'd rather see competition) they'd want to maximize that.
No! My heart is gone! Leroy is the new Brad. That good, likable guy who constantly loses. As long as they keep inviting him back. And Ty is always such good tv. This is mu favorite guy pair.
But I love the fact that Knight and Preston are still there. lol! Knight is hilarious and Preston is scrawny. It's just a funny team.
I feel like there should be another girl team gone too. Please don't let it be Jonna/Nany.
I bet Jordan and Marlon are doing great. Jordan is according to his castmates super smart and athletic. Plus he might be a little crazy and he's fearless. That makes for a great competitor sometimes.
[QUOTE=dbrower;342825]After I saw the cast and found out the pair, I expected these would be the final four:
1. CT/Wes
2. Johnny/Frank
3. Leroy/Ty
4. Marlon/Jordan
CT/Wes: Both are great climbers (We saw Wes in Rivals when he in the elimination and CT is a beast of climber (only Landon, Alton, Leroy and Abe are better climbers...See CT in the Duel elimination against Evan and in the Duel monkey bars challenge where he beat Brad who is a great climber too ... I know CT got DQed on last challenge on Rivals, but that was because the helicoptor was too close to the water for them and most confirmed that), athletic, strong (Well Wes looked scrawny at the last challenge), and have strong ties to the strong teams: Johnny/Frank (CT and Johnny worked together so their relationship trumps Johnny's distrust toward Wes), Leroy/Ty (Leroy is cool with CT and Ty was friendly with CT toward the end of Exes), Emily/Paula (CT and Johnny are cool with Emily and Paula is cool with Johnny, Leroy and Ty), Cara Marie and Cooke (Cara is cool with CT even though she and Wes aint that cool), and Camilla and Jimmye (Camilla is cool with Johnny and CT).
Johnny/Frank: Johnny's alliances as explained above about CT/Wes, Johnny is a very good overall competitor with no weaknesses, and Frank is fit.
Leroy/Ty: Alliances, athletic, and good competitors.
Marlon/Jordan: Both are fit and athletic (We saw Jordan wake boarding and Marlon played D1 football...However, I do note that MJ played for Vanderbilt as a Wide Receiver and he wasn't a beast in these challenges). Jordan reminds me so much of Johnny as far him rubbing people off the wrong way. I do think that they would make a great athletic pair because wake boarding is tough.
Girls:
1. Paula/Emily
2. Cara Marie and Cooke (Cooke was a soccer player)
3. Jimmye and Camilla (Jimmye is a softball player and Camilla is pretty atheltic
4. Trishelle and Sarah
Paula/Emily: Alliances, athletic, etc. They have ties to CT, Johnny, and Ty.
Cara Marie and Cooke: Both are athletic and have no drama with each other; Cara Marie has ties to CT and Johnny
Jimmye and Camilla: Connections to Johnny, Ty, and CT via Camilla, and both are athletic.
Aneesa and Diem: Anessa is a beast in eliminations, and strong ties to CT.
Notes:
I think Preston/Knight made it this far because 1. They wanted to keep a weak team in the end and 2. Jimmye may be protecting Knight and included Knight as part of the alliance.
Sarah and Trishelle may have DQed on the first challenge and lost early to probably rookies Jessica and Anastasia.
Frank and Knight probably turned on Zach. The alliance may have identified Zach/Trey and Marlon/Jordan as threats or maybe Trey refused to work with the Alliance because he knew his team would be at the bottom. Regardless, I think Frank turned his back on Zach. Frank watches the show a lot as evidence of his knowledge of Challenge Trivia in the Trivia Challenge in BOTS (He knew where the Island was filmed!).
Predictions:
1st Place: CT/Wes
2nd Place: Johnny/Frank
3rd Place: Marlon/Jordan
1st Place: Emily/Paula
2nd Place: Cooke/Cara Marie
3rd Place: Jimmye/Camilla
Hopefully, CT/Wes or Johnny/Frank wins. However, even if Johnny wins, it's hard for me to say he is the best competitor when Tyler eliminated him twice. I think that by judging how skinny Wes was in the last challenge, he may have started running more and focusing less on weights.
I'm going to go with CT/Wes because I see Johnny/Frank arguing too much during the finals. Johnny and Frank will try to argue about who will lead; I see that as their downfall. Wes already admitted on Derrick's podcat that CT is the best athlete ever on the Challenge so he will let CT lead. CT learned about pacing himself from the finals from Exs.
Hopefully the next Challenge is the Duel![/QUOTE]
Would never happened since those in you initial list are all males.
If the final is on regular terrain & the team leading doesn't have their advantage greatly nullified if it goes to a second day, CT & Wes should win easily. I don't know much about Frank's capabilities but Johnny can't keep up with either under those circumstances.
Wes had a very comfortable lead on him on Rivals & would've smoked Johnny if it was a straight through race, and all Johnny did on Exes was follow in the tracks CT had already made through the snow.
I still don't understand how Knight and Preston made it this far. Didd they NOT come in last place or does that rule not apply or were they "beasts" in eliminations and sent home four male pairs? This is nuts.
Quick question v1man and Molds it can be possible that there is a girl pair eliminated before Jasmine/Theresa but they haven't be spotted yet?
By the way I guess Jasmine didn't like Jordan. Before filming she was following the 8th real world Portland cast members, but once she got eliminated she unfollowed the ones she haven't met and Jordan.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;342838]I still don't understand how Knight and Preston made it this far. Didd they NOT come in last place or does that rule not apply or were they "beasts" in eliminations and sent home four male pairs? This is nuts.[/QUOTE]
Who knows maybe they aren´t even there anymore or maybe production came up with a new way on who gets sent into an elimination round.
Maybe one pair is chosen by the daily challenge winners and the other one gets voted in by the rest of the cast... IDK, It would be absolutely unfair but I wouldnt put it past them...
[QUOTE=JodyBreeze;342844]I wouldn't be suprised if Knight and Preston aren't there anymore.[/QUOTE]
They are, don't ask me how I know but I do. Plus, I would assume the last 2 eliminations would be this week.
It wouldn't surprised me that Cooke/Cara Maria were eliminated to be honest. Cooke did follow someone on Instagram and then the tweet from her friend, she is like Jonna hardly on social networks. Cara Maria is great at not getting spotted after getting eliminated, just look at exes every one though she was one of the last 2 pairs to be sent home since she was spotted around the time, but in reality she was eliminate earlier before Aneesa/Rachel.
According to friend post the following people were not back home this week:
Paula her brother wrote on his Facebook that he was missing her.
Aneesa her sister wrote on Aneesa Facebook wall that she miss her yesterday.
Jonna her roommate wrote that she was missing her Wednesday.
[QUOTE=Pinky;342845]They are, don't ask me how I know but I do. Plus, I would assume the last 2 eliminations would be this week.
It wouldn't surprised me that Cooke/Cara Maria were eliminated to be honest. Cooke did follow someone on Instagram and then the tweet from her friend, she is like Jonna hardly on social networks. Cara Maria is great at not getting spotted after getting eliminated, just look at exes every one though she was one of the last 2 pairs to be sent home since she was spotted around the time, but in reality she was eliminate earlier before Aneesa/Rachel.
According to friend post the following people were not back home this week:
[B]Paula[/B] her brother wrote on his Facebook that he was missing her.
[B]Aneesa[/B] her sister wrote on Aneesa Facebook wall that she miss her yesterday.
[B]Jonna[/B] her roommate wrote that she was missing her Wednesday.[/QUOTE]
It´s worth noting though that Jonna´s roomate and Paula´s brother are located in the same city as Jonna and Paula, whereas Aneesa´s sister doesn´t actually live in Philly...:encouragement: ;)
[QUOTE=LexBlair;342847]Additional little something...... ;)
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She could have sent the request a while ago and the person just now decides to accept, but most likely it was Aneesa that accepted the request, I think Anessa/Diem have been home for a while.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;342838]I still don't understand how Knight and Preston made it this far. Didd they NOT come in last place or does that rule not apply or were they "beasts" in eliminations and sent home four male pairs? This is nuts.[/QUOTE]
Its obvious that they are pulling their weight.
[QUOTE=Blue123;342852]She could have sent the request a while ago and the person just now decides to accept, but most likely it was Aneesa that accepted the request, I think Anessa/Diem have been home for a while.[/QUOTE]
Molds, do you have confirmation that Aneesa and Diem are home?
I am just wondering something. How are Knight & Preston rivals from their Real World season? I didn't really watch much of their season, but I remember they were friends and never really fought because they were always arguing with Ryan. I just remember on the last challenge Knight made a comment about having Preston on his team and Preston called Knight a loser. What other clips could they show of Knight & Preston being rivals?
[QUOTE=greenmonster;342867]Molds, do you have confirmation that Aneesa and Diem are home?[/QUOTE]
Why ask when every new detail is added to the official spoiler thread? When she has confirmation, that's where we will find that information.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342871]I am just wondering something. How are Knight & Preston rivals from their Real World season? I didn't really watch much of their season, but I remember they were friends and never really fought because they were always arguing with Ryan. I just remember on the last challenge Knight made a comment about having Preston on his team and Preston called Knight a loser. What other clips could they show of Knight & Preston being rivals?[/QUOTE]
They'll probably just use the whole ordeal with Knight not wanting Preston and McKenzie there anymore and saying how the team is better without them. It's obvious Knight had little to no confidence in Preston as a competitor.
God this place is dead, its always 1 extreme to the other, anyways Nany was spotted, molds we are like in sync with one another, I was just about to email you then I saw you just updated the spoilers :P
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