[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;343186]I don't care what anyone says, this season just got 10000 times better. As much as I loved Joi, if she was still in the house instead of Nia, this season would have been uber boring. I don't agree with what Nia did, but I def loved the drama.
With San Diego, Frank seemed like a bully because everyone in the house was so passive aggressive. However on this season, you have two people who are going head to head rather than just having one guy yell and everyone else just sit there.
This is the FIRST season in a while where I actually anticipate episodes[/QUOTE]
This. Nia is actually calculating and intriguing. I think her actions last night just turned people off since everyone was loving her whn she first appeared and now she's apparently Frank 2.0. We still have Anastasia drama, Nia/Johnny and Avery, and Jordan's breakdown. By far, better than the last two seasons.
fresh meat i agree with you where i don't see the similarities. I don't see much simliarity between Frank/Nia at all other than strong opinions on them by fans/castmates. They both argue, but it's completely different intent. Frank had a need to be liked and basically if you didn't agree with him or accept him he couldn't handle it and never let it go, Nia right from the gate has said several times she is about manipulation and games and doesn't seem to care about acceptance of her housemates. Frank argues just to argue till everyone is his friend or says he is right, Nia enjoys the drama she creates to "market" herself i guess it appears
Neither one are favorites of mine, but i just don't think they are the same. Ana did say on twitter that the house wasn't the same after this fight, so for those who love that type fighting/drama, i think you are in for a lot more of it.
I think Nia speaks before thinking and then has to act to follow it up. I'll agree that physically she is smoking hot but her brain and need to be a drama queen/victim is killing her appeal. As much as I think Jordan is an ***, he is an honest straightforward *** who is not the manipulator as much as he may seem.
Nia loves to manipulate, control the situation, and try to convince people she's the victim in drama she starts.
I wish Nia would follow through with what she does, the whole fight last night was so anticlimactic. If your going to play the reality TV game then you need to play it to the end, theres no point in getting super angry only to go to bed 10 minutes later.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;343198]I wish Nia would follow through with what she does, the whole fight last night was so anticlimactic. If your going to play the reality TV game then you need to play it to the end, theres no point in getting super angry only to go to bed 10 minutes later.[/QUOTE]
Agreed ...
Anyone else get the feeling she has more bark than bite? How about her money situation being her talking out her *** and realizing that she has to keep the lie now that she has said it?
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;343200]"Do you realize how many times I've tried to kill me?" - Jordan.
Did anyone notice or felt uncomfortable by that?[/QUOTE]
Forgot to mention this. This is probably part of his breakdown as well. Really interested to hear of his struggles.
What does everyone think about Marlon being a born again virgin?
I just laughed. Just admit it, you don't like *****. All these excuses just make him look confused.
[QUOTE=jojorules;343193]fresh meat i agree with you where i don't see the similarities. I don't see much simliarity between Frank/Nia at all other than strong opinions on them by fans/castmates. They both argue, but it's completely different intent. Frank had a need to be liked and basically if you didn't agree with him or accept him he couldn't handle it and never let it go, Nia right from the gate has said several times she is about manipulation and games and doesn't seem to care about acceptance of her housemates. Frank argues just to argue till everyone is his friend or says he is right, Nia enjoys the drama she creates to "market" herself i guess it appears
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They're alike in the sense that they both stir up drama to feed their ego/get camera time all while preaching about how much smarter they are than everyone else when really they're just the cliche crazy person on a reality show trying to get some extra camera time. They both find someone's weakness or insecurities and then use it against them.
I don't dislike Nia but that's what it is. She's trying to make her situation seem much more deeper than what it really is. She's not trying to get back at Jordan for messing with the girls, she's not trying to create gorilla warfare, she's simply trying to get extra camera time, even her blog before the show aired made that clear so yeah she is a lot like Frank.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;343203]What does everyone think about Marlon being a born again virgin?
I just laughed. Just admit it, you don't like *****. All these excuses just make him look confused.[/QUOTE]
LOL I almost fell off the bed. Like, really dude? You should just come out already.
I honestly am on Jordan's side of this whole fight. The "keep your hand in your pocket" was such a messed up comment and Nia just kept picking at Jordan and I felt like she had a script and was going for him just to make drama for TV. It almost seemed like during their fight she wasn't that mad, she had like a smirk on her face because she got what she wanted and it was drama. That whole fight was just like weird. I don't like Nia. It literally felt scripted and made no sense.....
Team Jordan in this situation because she is out to get him for really no reason. And plus this episode I thought Jordan looked extremely hott haha
I think she was picking a fight and thought she had things under control. She could dish it out but could not take it.
Just for the record: who put their hands on who's throat?
[QUOTE=theman23;343215]IMO they both need therapy jordan just admitted he tried to kill his self...and Nia still isnt over the rape thing[/QUOTE]
I don't think you can ever get over being raped
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;343203]What does everyone think about Marlon being a born again virgin?
I just laughed. Just admit it, you don't like *****. All these excuses just make him look confused.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention they also make some gay guys look thirsty. I don't think he knows he's gay, guys.
[QUOTE=WallyT09;343219]I don't think you can ever get over being raped[/QUOTE]
For Nia to be able to speak about it so openly, shes over it, and good for her.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;343200]"Do you realize how many times I've tried to kill me?" - Jordan.
Did anyone notice or felt uncomfortable by that?[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;343202]Forgot to mention this. This is probably part of his breakdown as well. Really interested to hear of his struggles.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully, if they do things right.
The tension between Nia, Marlon and Jordan...
I'm convinced Nia has a crush on Jordan but she realized she messed up by trying to get him to look like an idiot, so she's trying to make it up to him.
And I'm now seeing this Bad Girls Club vibe everyone was talking about. Like she keeps talking about playing a game and being conniving, but why? Does she really do this outside of the house?
The girls bad mouthing Jordan around Vanessa... not cool.
Marlon is overcompensating. OH MY GOD I LOVE SEX. I LOVE WOMEN. WOMEN ARE MY WEAKNESS. IF I WERE IN JORDAN'S SHOES I'D HAVE SEX WITH HER.
Like chill a little bit.
Was Jordan's monkey joke really racist?
As for the whole "hand in pocket" comment, I approve. Jordan's as ***. He should be able to take what he dishes out.
Marlon is gay. It's like if you're straight you don't have to run around yelling it all the time; I mean, i don't run around yelling "I'm black! I'm black!". Give it up dude.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;343237]Im a "call em like a see em" type. She was acting like one, so... I don't think it was racist.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it works like that. What if Jordan was to asked Nia for a drink, Nia brings him one, and Jordon says "Thanks slave".
LMAO at the "female black window spider eats male" tag for this thread.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;343239]I don't think it works like that. What if Jordan was to asked Nia for a drink, Nia brings him one, and Jordon says "Thanks slave".[/QUOTE]
If she'd brought him a drink and he said "thanks slave" I'd think it was racist. But if he said "thanks servant" I wouldn't automatically assume he said it because she was black and he thought she was inferior.
I think it depends on the situation and wording. So when I initially thought he was just calling her a monkey, like he just said a random animal's name, I didn't see the big deal. But then I read this thread and checked out Nia's twitter. I wasn't aware he'd said monkey n*****. That's deliberately racist.
I'm curious to see next week's episode because Nia says she didn't know he said monkey n***** at first, she just thought he said monkey, so she didn't care. Marlon's the one who told her Jordan said n*****.
Also, I like Jordan's dad.
[QUOTE=TDMEL52;343082]It is kind weird that everyone is killing Jordan on twitter, (fans and fellow castmates) and he can't he come back at them as he is still on the challenge.[/QUOTE]
SPOILER ALERT.
[QUOTE=JL81790;343131]She should have gone home.
She was hitting him in the head with an alarm clock, she had her hand around his throat and was trying to choke him, and she smacked him.[/QUOTE]
I think it's a little more subtle than that. I think they get kicked out when their roommate feels threatened. Jordan is obviously stronger than her and I doubt he thought she could really hurt him.
[QUOTE=DirtyDan;343189]"he was spitting cheerios" from the aftershow the n***** comment he explained was that it would be a double standard if he weren't allowed to use it as Nia did[/QUOTE]
Ugh, can't stand that "omg, why can black people say it but i can't, it's so unfair, woe is me" attitude. What is it with [I]some[/I] white people wanting to use that word so badly, what's so special about that word? Damn, if it's insulting just don't use it. There are enough words in the english language to convey what you're feeling without ever needing to go there.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;343203]What does everyone think about Marlon being a born again virgin?
I just laughed. Just admit it, you don't like *****. All these excuses just make him look confused.[/QUOTE]
DEAD.
Am I the only one who thinks Nia is definitely trying to pull inspiration from Camilla on Bad girls club as the baddest replacement ever but for the real world? Just saying, I feel like there's no way she didn't watch Camilla's season..
I liked Nia the first half of the episode and the second half was just doing too much. I don't like unwillingness to leave Jordan alone and clocking him in the head over and over literally and then saying stuff like "That's it he's kicked out, he's done. He's going home. He pushed me" when he reacts to get him off her..
The racial stuff if he said it was wrong, but couldn't have been much worse than her insulting his disfiguration..? They're both wrong, but she pushed it to that point by trying to put the size of his junk on blast in front on national tv the previous episode or two.
I like how Johnny has been portrayed thus far. And Ana gets no screen time I feel like
[QUOTE=dreamer;343246]Am I the only one who thinks Nia is definitely trying to pull inspiration from Camilla on Bad girls club as the baddest replacement ever but for the real world? Just saying, I feel like there's no way she didn't watch Camilla's season..[/QUOTE]
I don't know who Camilla from BGC is, but Nia acts like a BGC reject.
Also, the biggest surprise of the episode came when there wasn't a short scene of Jordan running. I was hoping we could go an entire season where there would be a random 2 second scene of Jordan Running in every episode.
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