[QUOTE=Camille;348361]And Nia was apparently saying things like she was going to hit them with bats in their sleep.[/QUOTE] If the crew gave the okay for "violence" and anyone came near me with a bat or otherwise, I'd go [I]Katie Doyle[/I] on said person.
[QUOTE=Camille;348361]And if it's true that she got these Portland gangsters to threaten the camera crew so that she can buy drugs, I find it hard to believe she has fans.[/QUOTE] There are Portland gangsters?
[QUOTE=dreamer;347343]"i'm strong enough as a christian woman to give a christian man what he needs in a christian wife"
We get it, girl. You're religious.
I've also noticed that Jessica answers almost any conversation or questions like she is in a miss america pageant.[/QUOTE]She comes off as SO phony! She reminds me of Kyle from the Chicago season.....always projecting an image and trying to be something that he/she clearly is not. I was so happy Bird and Johnny called her out on being fake.
[QUOTE=CHill;348612]She comes off as SO phony! She reminds me of Kyle from the Chicago season.....always projecting an image and trying to be something that he/she clearly is not. I was so happy Bird and Johnny called her out on being fake.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Jessica seems like she's putting on an act. Something about her hints that she's not this innocent southern belle that she pretends to be.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;348620]Was Jessica the one who before the season started there was that person talking about how awful she is in real life?[/QUOTE]
Excuse me?
[QUOTE=CherryPie;348638]Excuse me?[/QUOTE]
While the season was filming, there was a website talking about the cast and someone commented on one of the things about a cast member saying they're not this incredibly nice girl in real life like will probably tried to be portrayed or something. I don't remember if this was Jessica or not
Edit: Found it.
[URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14797"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/58195073b269f14aa.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[url]http://www.elizabethany.com/2012/08/real-world-portland-meet-jessica-mccain.html[/url]
Vevmo has a history with MsElizaBethany who got her start as an RW blogger during the DC season when she was a prolific thief of vevmo insider posts. My opinion is that if she didn't steal it she made it up.
Bacchus may have his own views about her...
[QUOTE=V1man;348645]Vevmo has a history with MsElizaBethany who got her start as an RW blogger during the DC season when she was a prolific thief of vevmo insider posts. My opinion is that if she didn't steal it she made it up.
Bacchus may have his own views about her...[/QUOTE]
Well these comments were made by others commenting on her posts, not the original poster so she's essentially just a medium.
My point being that before the season started there were people talking about Jessica's image and how untrue it was and as the season progressed, these things started to make sense. I think this comment was interesting and relevant to Jess's "purity ring I'm a Christian yada yada" stuff from this episode:
[quote]Anonymous said...
haha that's funny that all these people see how she actually is, she tries to make people think that she is this sweet innocent church going little girl that doesnt do anything wrong...but in reality she is the total opposite..the previous comments are dead on because she sleeps with pretty much anyone who gives her attention and she thinks she this perfect princess that deserves her prince charming which every girl does but you are not going to find him acting like a immature ***** and cheating on all the good boyfriends you get..
October 11, 2012 at 1:47 PM [/quote]
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;348655]Well these comments were made by others commenting on her posts, not the original poster so she's essentially just a medium.[/QUOTE]
And what I am suggesting, given the track record of ElizaBethany with vevmo, I have no reason to believe that she simply didn't create the comments out of thin air.
She has zero credibility with me.
The general sentiment toward Jessica may be very accurate. I know nothing about her outside of this RW edit. For me to have an informed view of her, it would need to be influence by someone other than one who apparently has no regard for intellectual property rights.
When it comes to Nia I feel like most people look at the situations she's involved in from one perspective and don't take into account the fact that she may be in the right simply because she's not the typical America's sweetheart type of girl. In my opinion, while Nia may take things too far at times, she responds how many people would respond in real life. The only situation where I felt like her behavior was completely inexcusable was how she treated her boss. Now, with the Jordan situation I believe she antagonized him and therefore can't play the victim in that situation, but I believe her original motives were influenced by the other girls; she felt like she had to stick up for them.
With the Averey/Johnny situation, I'm riding with Nia all the way. The same way Nia can't play victim when she initiated the fight with Jordan, Averey and Johnny can't play victim.
They started with Nia. Averey called her out her name and they took a petty argument too far. Nia was verbally arguing with them, but Johnny chose to put his hands on her when he put that disgusting tissue on her then took it further when he poured the drink on her (Which is also a form of assault, btw). As a man, for him to do that to any woman was disgusting. He initiated the violence. Nia retaliated, yeah it was too much, but she has the right. Averey sneaked her and Nia defended herself. You can't expect everyone to think and handle situations the same way you do. Nia felt she needed to defend herself and she did that. She did not initiate any of the INITIAL violence in this altercation.
[QUOTE=Camille;347056]Like Nia hasn't been rude. I don't know how a little splash of water equals behind bashed in the head with a blow dryer, but okay.[/QUOTE]
Throwing a drink on someone is assault as well. You don't go around throwing a drink on someone and expect nothing to happen to you. Johnny messed with the wrong one and he learned that day.
[QUOTE=Camille;347061]Oh of course Nia's got a lot of fans. Many of them Bad Girls Club fans who think violence is cool.[/QUOTE]
It's not about thinking violence is cool, it's about standing up for yours and handling your business. If someone throws a drink on you, that's initiating a fight and anything that happens after that is fair game. If someone sneak attacks you, that's eliminating all rules and you should defend yourself however you see fit.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;347121]But to be fair in CT's case, he was going through legitimate personal issues and was completely wasted at the time, as was Adam. Nia in this situation was completely sober and just being a *****. Nia's case is worse.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what Nia's mental state was like, just because she isn't putting it out there doesn't mean she's not going through anything. I know many people with a great poker face. Don't jump to conclusions. Nia's said that she's not typically a violent person it was just that situation and I believe it. She seems like more of a verbal arguer.
[QUOTE=timster3;347125]Okay now this is just ridiculous. And how do you not know Nia is going through personal issues? It doesn't matter either way. A fight is a fight. People on here just hate on Nia for the dumbest reasons.[/QUOTE]
I hate to play this card, but I honestly do think it has to do with her being a black woman. Now, I don't think it's solely that. But, like Nia has said there is a certain category of black woman that people pigeonhole, I believe Jordan did this as well. And I believe that Nia was pretty much dead on arrival to many viewers, I remember reading comments about her when all we knew of her was a picture and a bio and the comments were already incredible biased and jumped to conclusions then. I think people couldn't wait for Nia to make a mistake so they could justify their hatred for her.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;347128]Personal issues my ***. CT was dealing with his brother getting murdered, if Nia had anything as bad as that she'd have been home at that point.
I dislike Nia because she has proven time after time that she's a manipulative ***** who deserves no respect.[/QUOTE]
Nia was date raped shortly before this, you're being ridiculous. You're judging someone's entire character solely on the basis of a few hours of edited footage that you've seen on TV.
[QUOTE=blanky667;347134]The sneak peek on MTV.com for next week has me rolling. Nia swears that Jordan was pushing her and makes it sound like he was helping Averey fight her - he clearly was doing his best to break up the ordeal and to stop the nonsense.
The delusional compulsive lying has not stopped, ladies!
#QewQew[/QUOTE]
OH PLEASE. You're the biased one, it was clearly evident that Jordan was breaking up the fight with the safety of Averey, not Nia, in mind. DESPITE the fact that Averey initiated the violence. Jordan held Nia's arms multiple times and pushed her aggressively. He was on twitter bragging about how Averey beat her up so don't try to play like Jordan's just innocent and anti violence. He wanted to see Nia get beat up.
[QUOTE=jojorules;347152]Johnny did all he could in the fight, he protected his face and let her go at it, the only true way to avoid any backlash on his part. Otherwise he would be in the same mess Jordan was in early after being overly provoked. NOt a place you want to be in. I hope COral is the reunion host and shuts Nia down again. Nia the bigtalker had very few comebacks for Coral and looked out of her element[/QUOTE]
Johnny was NOT provoked. Nia was dead wrong in the fight with Jordan, but Johnny was dead wrong in this fight. He came in the room messing with her and he's the one who shifted the altercation from verbal to something more, TWICE.
[QUOTE=Krown;348769]Johnny was NOT provoked. Nia was dead wrong in the fight with Jordan, but Johnny was dead wrong in this fight. He came in the room messing with her and he's the one who shifted the altercation from verbal to something more, TWICE.[/QUOTE]
It would appear that you were watching a different program than most of the other 1M viewers.
[QUOTE=Krown;348769]Johnny was NOT provoked. Nia was dead wrong in the fight with Jordan, but Johnny was dead wrong in this fight. He came in the room messing with her and he's the one who shifted the altercation from verbal to something more, TWICE.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Nia did provoke both Averey and Johnny. She even stated she was manipulating them. The problem is they reacted in a way she did not like. She's an admitted liar and manipulator. Nia states it quietly clearly in her audition tape that she enjoys lying and manipulating others.
[QUOTE=Krown;348769]Johnny was NOT provoked. Nia was dead wrong in the fight with Jordan, but Johnny was dead wrong in this fight. He came in the room messing with her and he's the one who shifted the altercation from verbal to something more, TWICE.[/QUOTE]
Putting a tissue down someone's back does not call for being punched in the back of the head ten times.
Neither does going to pour a drink on someone.
[QUOTE=Krown;348768]OH PLEASE. You're the biased one, it was clearly evident that Jordan was breaking up the fight with the safety of Averey, not Nia, in mind. DESPITE the fact that Averey initiated the violence. Jordan held Nia's arms multiple times and pushed her aggressively. He was on twitter bragging about how Averey beat her up so don't try to play like Jordan's just innocent and anti violence. He wanted to see Nia get beat up.[/QUOTE]
Can we make an exception to the "No hazing rule" for the biased Nia supporters please? Because it's getting hard to respond to them without dwelling into things that aren't allowed on here.
Averey did NOT initiate the violence. Nia went to hit Johnny WITH A WEAPON. I repeat, A WEAPON and Averey was there to defend Johnny since if he hit Nia she would be screaming "OH MY GOD VINNY HIT A GIRL" errr Johnny. Stop accusing other people of bias when you come into the conversation with your logical and legal judgement clouded by who you like.
Nightwolf, just be creative. I know you have it in you. And after tonight, who will care about Nia anyway. Those few who do can make a cash pre-payment for her book for all I care.
[QUOTE=V1man;348771]It would appear that you were watching a different program than most of the other 1M viewers.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, V1, I think the majority of viewers are on Nia's side with this particular argument, at least the majority of fans tweeting about the show. I really haven't seen too many pro-Johnny/Avery comments from fans outside of Vevmo since the airing of the episode. The few fans this show has left seem to be loving Nia at this point.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;348894]To be fair, V1, I think the majority of viewers are on Nia's side with this particular argument, at least the majority of fans tweeting about the show. I really haven't seen too many pro-Johnny/Avery comments from fans outside of Vevmo since the airing of the episode. The few fans this show has left seem to be loving Nia at this point.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, that is just delusional. Counting twitter comments on one's fingers and toes does not constitute evidence. I could easily counter with the fact that every time I comment negatively about Nia on twitter, I see manyresponding comments in agreement. There, are, of course, a few of her "fans" who've attempted to threaten me, which is good for a laugh.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;348894]To be fair, V1, I think the majority of viewers are on Nia's side with this particular argument, at least the majority of fans tweeting about the show. I really haven't seen too many pro-Johnny/Avery comments from fans outside of Vevmo since the airing of the episode. The few fans this show has left seem to be loving Nia at this point.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how many would be on her side if she got arrested for assault
[QUOTE=V1man;348899]Sorry, that is just delusional.[/QUOTE]
I'm in no way a Nia fan, so I have no reason to be "delusional" about Nia's popularity. In this situation, I do side with her though. Simply stating that the majority of tweets that I've seen have been pro-Nia is not delusional in any way. You, on the other hand, do seem to be quite bitter towards Nia. Did she kill your puppy?
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;348901]I wonder how many would be on her side if she got arrested for assault[/QUOTE]
That would probably make them like her more, if we're being honest.
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