The Challenge: Rivals II - CT & Wes

I don't know if it's just me but, CT looks like his upper body has gotten bigger since last time we saw him and not bigger meaning fat like bigger meaning buffer.

Yeah V1man hit it dead on...this pair knows what do when given a camera and even more importantly what not to do...it sounded better than if Wes said, "There are a lot of people in this game that dislike me...for all I know my rival could have been Johnny or Frank."

Yep this was by far the best team interview. The way they conducted the interview was really good. I just don't know if I believe the "if I drink more water I'm sure I will win" BS from Wes...

[QUOTE=mario21jorge;352066]Yep this was by far the best team interview. The way they conducted the interview was really good. I just don't know if I believe the "if I drink more water I'm sure I will win" BS from Wes...[/QUOTE] ya that was a pretty bold statement considering there is some competition on the guys side, but he said "probably" win so we'll give him that, also he said he doesnt know why CT ran out of gas on the last one, he never realized that CT smokes?

[QUOTE=Blue123;352067]ya that was a pretty bold statement considering there is some competition on the guys side, but he said "probably" win so we'll give him that, also he said[B] he doesnt know why CT ran out of gas on the last one, he never realized that CT smokes?[/B][/QUOTE] Of course he does, but this is PC TV. Half the cast smokes like chimneys, but the prime demo for MTV begins at age 13. These guys know the unwritten rules and don't through in stuff the editors won't use.

Yes alot of castmembers smoke alot I remembered on last season of RW:Portland we all saw how much Marlon,Nia, and Ana smoked.

Ct was not 240 on the Duel 2. Evan said that about him when he was fighting with Adam. Nehemiah also said he was 250 on the Gauntlet 3, those weights are extremely exaggerated. There was an article in a magazine I read right after battle of the exes that listed the final four guys real weights. Johny-190 TY-200 Mark Long-205 and CT-210. Battle of the exes is one of the biggest builds CT has had and he was 210. This season he seems more cut then exes and not as bulky and I would say he's around 205 pounds. On Exes Bananas looked pretty big and sauced up and was only 190, most guys on this show are not 200 pounds, and it makes CT looked bigger than he is. He deffinetly is a big guy, but was never 240, his weights over the years have varied from i'd say 195-215. And Wes clearly was on sauce before and does not use it anymore, he is melted now.

Wow you bring the weight convo up again. I'm not even going to respond to your comment... what ever they weigh doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=rbheat434;352940]Ct was not 240 on the Duel 2. Evan said that about him when he was fighting with Adam. Nehemiah also said he was 250 on the Gauntlet 3, those weights are extremely exaggerated. There was an article in a magazine I read right after battle of the exes that listed the final four guys real weights. Johny-190 TY-200 Mark Long-205 and CT-210. Battle of the exes is one of the biggest builds CT has had and he was 210. This season he seems more cut then exes and not as bulky and I would say he's around 205 pounds. On Exes Bananas looked pretty big and sauced up and was only 190, most guys on this show are not 200 pounds, and it makes CT looked bigger than he is. He deffinetly is a big guy, but was never 240, his weights over the years have varied from i'd say 195-215. [B]And Wes clearly was on sauce before and does not use it anymore, he is melted now[/B].[/QUOTE] How was he clearly on steroids? You know what happens to people who work out? They gain muscle. You know what happens when they stop? They lose muscle. Obviously this does not disprove that Wes never used steroids, but to throw an accusation about somebody without any solid evidence is irresponsible.

Well it has been stated in the past by former castmembers (Derrick) that Wes was at one time juicing particularly during the Duel 1. But since then it's always been up for debate because from The Ruins to Rivals 1 when Wes was huge compared to now, but Wes has stated that he hasn't lifted weights in a very long time so yeah you can lose muscle tone you can see he's gotten progressively smaller from Exes to now.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;353095]Well it has been stated in the past by former castmembers (Derrick) that Wes was at one time juicing particularly during the Duel 1. But since then it's always been up for debate because from The Ruins to Rivals 1 when Wes was huge compared to now, but Wes has stated that he hasn't lifted weights in a very long time so yeah you can lose muscle tone you can see he's gotten progressively smaller from Exes to now.[/QUOTE] You can actually loose muscle pretty quickly, I was surprised when the dude at the gym said in as little as 3 weeks you can loose a lot, so ya it takes a lot to maintain that. So I'm not surprised he's so small considering rivals was 2 years ago, on exes he was small but still looking fit, in his prime he didnt look freakish like freak of nature big, CT however at times did, and CT has admitted to using in the past but I think Vman as far as he knows no one on the cast currently uses

The biggest Wes has ever been on a challenge was Ruins and the smallest is Rivals 2. People lose weight and gain all the time. CT has been a different weight on like every season he has been on so has Evan and Johnny.

I think the threats in the game that these two have to look out for is Lee and Ty,JB and Frank, Zach and Trey

You know. I really like that CT actually tried to devise a plan to get rid of Johnny. It failed. But it showed that someone was actually willing to go against him. And It got Johnny shaking in his boots and that is definitely a plus.

Just for the sake of it, I wanted to just make a list of other potential "Rivals" Wes could have had on this show. 1. Kenny (Let's face it they still hate each other) 2. Johnny (Always hated each other. Most notably when Wes got in Johnny's face during The Ruins) 3. Darrell (People forget about these two. Started all the way back on Fresh Meat, then on The Ruins Darrell and Wes got into it. Then on Fresh Meat II Wes got Darrell sent home first.) 4. Evan (Based on other "Rivals" on the show this could've worked. Evan thought Wes screwed him over on The Duel but Evan was just being an idiot) 5. Derrick (Derrick was constantly talking **** about Wes when he did his podcasts. And if they can use Twitter to make Rivals, why not podcasts?!) 6. Cohutta (If they ever wanted to bring back Cohutta, they could spin it into them both dating Kelly Ann or something. Also Cohutta gave Wes his first EVER loss in an elimination upset back on The Ruins) I was bored and figured I'd make a list off the top of my head. Any that I'm forgetting?

[QUOTE=Darnzee91;353433]Just for the sake of it, I wanted to just make a list of other potential "Rivals" Wes could have had on this show. 1. Kenny (Let's face it they still hate each other) 2. Johnny (Always hated each other. Most notably when Wes got in Johnny's face during The Ruins) 3. Darrell (People forget about these two. Started all the way back on Fresh Meat, then on The Ruins Darrell and Wes got into it. Then on Fresh Meat II Wes got Darrell sent home first.) 4. Evan (Based on other "Rivals" on the show this could've worked. Evan thought Wes screwed him over on The Duel but Evan was just being an idiot) 5. Derrick (Derrick was constantly talking **** about Wes when he did his podcasts. And if they can use Twitter to make Rivals, why not podcasts?!) 6. Cohutta (If they ever wanted to bring back Cohutta, they could spin it into them both dating Kelly Ann or something. Also Cohutta gave Wes his first EVER loss in an elimination upset back on The Ruins) I was bored and figured I'd make a list off the top of my head. Any that I'm forgetting?[/QUOTE] 7. Danny (they used to be besties, but Wes didn't have his back during Freshmeat 2). Thank god this didn't happen though :] (no offense Danny, but your challenge resume is disappointing).

I have a feeling the only one they made a legit statement with and a legit return with is Johnny. However, Wes & CT goes all the way back to the first Duel.

[QUOTE=Darnzee91;353433]Just for the sake of it, I wanted to just make a list of other potential "Rivals" Wes could have had on this show. 1. Kenny (Let's face it they still hate each other) 2. Johnny (Always hated each other. Most notably when Wes got in Johnny's face during The Ruins) 3. Darrell (People forget about these two. Started all the way back on Fresh Meat, then on The Ruins Darrell and Wes got into it. Then on Fresh Meat II Wes got Darrell sent home first.) 4. Evan (Based on other "Rivals" on the show this could've worked. Evan thought Wes screwed him over on The Duel but Evan was just being an idiot) 5. Derrick (Derrick was constantly talking **** about Wes when he did his podcasts. And if they can use Twitter to make Rivals, why not podcasts?!) 6. Cohutta (If they ever wanted to bring back Cohutta, they could spin it into them both dating Kelly Ann or something. Also Cohutta gave Wes his first EVER loss in an elimination upset back on The Ruins) I was bored and figured I'd make a list off the top of my head. Any that I'm forgetting?[/QUOTE] Man. I sure forgot about Darrell. Derrick and Cohutta too.

[QUOTE=Darnzee91;353433]Just for the sake of it, I wanted to just make a list of other potential "Rivals" Wes could have had on this show. 1. Kenny (Let's face it they still hate each other) 2. Johnny (Always hated each other. Most notably when Wes got in Johnny's face during The Ruins) 3. Darrell (People forget about these two. Started all the way back on Fresh Meat, then on The Ruins Darrell and Wes got into it. Then on Fresh Meat II Wes got Darrell sent home first.) 4. Evan (Based on other "Rivals" on the show this could've worked. Evan thought Wes screwed him over on The Duel but Evan was just being an idiot) 5. Derrick (Derrick was constantly talking **** about Wes when he did his podcasts. And if they can use Twitter to make Rivals, why not podcasts?!) 6. Cohutta (If they ever wanted to bring back Cohutta, they could spin it into them both dating Kelly Ann or something. Also Cohutta gave Wes his first EVER loss in an elimination upset back on The Ruins) I was bored and figured I'd make a list off the top of my head. Any that I'm forgetting?[/QUOTE] Landon, CJ, Frank

Wes has several people they could of used. Pretty much the majority of the cast could have been his partner...

Also: Vinny (BOTE) Easy (BOTS2 if we're going off of elimination round smokings like Leroy/Ty "this is bs, he's fat, he sucks", etc)

[QUOTE=JL81790;353462]Also: Vinny (BOTE) Easy (BOTS2 if we're going off of elimination round smokings like Leroy/Ty "this is bs, he's fat, he sucks", etc)[/QUOTE] Right, I forgot about Vinny. I have a feeling he could be as big as Easy now too!

Didn't Wes and derrick argue over twitter also??

[QUOTE=TheCloser;353517]Didn't Wes and derrick argue over twitter also??[/QUOTE] yeah, theirs got a little too personal though. I doubt Derrick would be willing to do it

[QUOTE=RobbioRobbio;353539]yeah, theirs got a little too personal though. I doubt Derrick would be willing to do it[/QUOTE] Nor would Mrs. Derrick permit it...

[QUOTE=Darnzee91;353433]Just for the sake of it, I wanted to just make a list of other potential "Rivals" Wes could have had on this show. 1. Kenny (Let's face it they still hate each other) 2. Johnny (Always hated each other. Most notably when Wes got in Johnny's face during The Ruins) 3. Darrell (People forget about these two. Started all the way back on Fresh Meat, then on The Ruins Darrell and Wes got into it. Then on Fresh Meat II Wes got Darrell sent home first.) 4. Evan (Based on other "Rivals" on the show this could've worked. Evan thought Wes screwed him over on The Duel but Evan was just being an idiot) 5. Derrick (Derrick was constantly talking **** about Wes when he did his podcasts. And if they can use Twitter to make Rivals, why not podcasts?!) 6. Cohutta (If they ever wanted to bring back Cohutta, they could spin it into them both dating Kelly Ann or something. Also Cohutta gave Wes his first EVER loss in an elimination upset back on The Ruins) I was bored and figured I'd make a list off the top of my head. Any that I'm forgetting?[/QUOTE] They could also spin a rivalry with Wes and either Landon or CJ. I'd love to see Landon back on the Challenges. IMO he is the best ever.

[QUOTE=eagles28;353601]They could also spin a rivalry with Wes and either Landon or CJ. I'd love to see Landon back on the Challenges. IMO he is the best ever.[/QUOTE] Evelyn agrees with you that Landon is the best ever to have been on a challenge.

[QUOTE=V1man;353603]Evelyn agrees with you that Landon is the best ever to have been on a challenge.[/QUOTE] Landon also seems like one of the best people to have ever been on a Challenge in addition to the best competitor. I think he has moved on from the Challenges, but I would love to see him back.

Landon is great but I think there are people who are at least as good and even better.

Now that I think about it, they could stretch a rivalry out of Derrick & Landon based on them wrestling outside a club on Inferno 2, Landon slamming Derrick into a car and slicing his ear open, and then Derrick shaving part of Landons head. On the same note they could spin a rivalry out of Landon clipping Isaac's beloved long toenails on Duel 2 and then eliminating him.