The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=dorkyydaniel;360091]I just read Diem's most recent blog post about this past episode. She said there was a competitor there (who she remained nameless) who was there specifically to break her mentally. Could this nameless competitor be Cooke? I remember (vaguely) V1man saying Cooke came into this challenge with one intent. Could this be it?[/QUOTE] It will be a few more episodes before who it is becomes obvious.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;359921]So, just to break down the upcoming [B]missions[/B] and [B]elimination rounds[/B]: [U][B]MISSIONS:[/B][/U] [B]WEEK 7][/B] (must be next week bc Leroy/Ty are pictured during the mission) [ATTACH]2504[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]2505[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]2506[/ATTACH] [B]WEEK 8][/B] (must be this week because Nany is seen falling into the water during the mission) [ATTACH]2507[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]2512[/ATTACH] [B]WEEK 9][/B] ("T-Bone"-style mission) [ATTACH]2513[/ATTACH] [U][B]JUNGLES:[/B][/U] [B]WEEK [7][/B] - [B][COLOR="#3399ff"]Marlon/Jordan[/COLOR][/B] vs [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Leeroy/Ty[/COLOR][/B] in [B]"Last Chance"[/B] [ATTACH]2514[/ATTACH] [B]WEEK [8][/B] - [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Cooke/Cara Maria[/COLOR][/B] vs [B][COLOR="#3399ff"]Nany/Jonna[/COLOR][/B] in [B]"Snapper"[/B] [ATTACH]2515[/ATTACH] [B]WEEK [9][/B] - [B][COLOR="#3399ff"]Marlon/Jordan[/COLOR][/B] vs [B][COLOR="#00FF00"]Knight/Preston[/COLOR][/B] in [B]"Breaking on Through"[/B] (-you can see that the guy's name on the left starts with "M" ) [ATTACH]2516[/ATTACH] [B]WEEK [10][/B] - [B][COLOR="#00FF00"]Camila/Jemmye[/COLOR][/B] vs [B][COLOR="#800080"]Diem/Aneesa[/COLOR][/B] in [B]"Hanging by a Thread"[/B] [ATTACH]2517[/ATTACH] ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ [B]ELIMINATION RECORDS[/B] of the remaining competitors [I]after[/I] this season: contastant's name: W - L (DQ) [COLOR="#0000FF"]Wes:[/COLOR] 11 - 4 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Aneesa:[/COLOR] 8 - 6 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Camila:[/COLOR] 6 - 2(1) [COLOR="#FF0000"]Emily:[/COLOR] 5 - 0 [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Cara Maria:[/COLOR] 5 - 3[/B] [COLOR="#FF0000"]Paula:[/COLOR] 5 - 4 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Johnny:[/COLOR] 4 – 3 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Ty:[/COLOR] 4 - 3 [COLOR="#0000FF"]CT:[/COLOR] 3 - 2(2) [COLOR="#FF0000"]Cooke:[/COLOR] 2 - 0 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Marlon:[/COLOR] 2 - 0 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Jordan:[/COLOR] 2 – 0 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Jemmye:[/COLOR] 2 – 1 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Leroy:[/COLOR] 2 - 2 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Frank:[/COLOR] 1 - 0 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Nany:[/COLOR] 1 - 2 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Jonna:[/COLOR] 1 - 3 [COLOR="#FF0000"]Diem:[/COLOR] 1 - 4 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Preston:[/COLOR] 0 - 2 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Knight:[/COLOR] 0 - 2 _____________________________________ Hope you enjoyed, and found it at least a bit informative;)[/QUOTE] After this season Cara Maria elimination record will be 6 - 3. (Really impressive)

[QUOTE=Blue123;360104]I just saw the mid season trailer again, do you guys think that maybe Johnny had to be pulled out of the final or gassed out? Cause he is sitting there looking like he's crying and says he cant breath, or that may have been after the T bone challenge. I dont get why "he cant breath" wasnt his *** training in high altitudes or some ****? lol Id love it if he screws up the final. Maybe he has asthma or something[/QUOTE] I was thinking the same thing, I feel like he gassed out. I hope not though :( I don't see how he could gas out considering this is one of the easier finals, I heard.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;360118]I was thinking the same thing, I feel like he gassed out. I hope not though :( I don't see how he could gas out considering this is one of the easier finals, I heard.[/QUOTE] We dont know much about the final, unless you share what you heard, that townie fella said its short but I didnt get that vibe from Jordan/Marlon or any mods on here. Jordan keeps pushing that its 100% stamina. They look like theyre reusing the pet rock thing or they chained them together for some of the race. Maybe all that high altitude has screwed up Johnny's lungs (**** who the **** takes the challenge that seriously?! The guy thinks he's an Olympian or superman). Maybe the high altitudes thing was bull**** and he's actually been blood doping, then he had an over production of RBCs and got a pulmonary embolism. Thats why he cant breath Side note: MTV is really dumb cause they may have shown CT/Wes running through the finish line cause they show them running then smoke goes off, or maybe there's explosions as they run, idk either way they obviously showed the finalist pretty clearly

[QUOTE=Blue123;360119]We dont know much about the final, unless you share what you heard, that townie fella said its short but I didnt get that vibe from Jordan/Marlon or any mods on here. Jordan keeps pushing that its 100% stamina. They look like theyre reusing the pet rock thing or they chained them together for some of the race. Maybe all that high altitude has screwed up Johnny's lungs (**** who the **** takes the challenge that seriously?! The guy thinks he's an Olympian or superman). Maybe the high altitudes thing was bull**** and he's actually been blood doping, then he had an over production of RBCs and got a pulmonary embolism. Thats why he cant breath Side note: MTV is really dumb cause they may have shown CT/Wes running through the finish line cause they show them running then smoke goes off, or maybe there's explosions as they run, idk either way they obviously showed the finalist pretty clearly[/QUOTE] Well the mid season trailer gave away two of the final mens teams easily showing ct and wes runninh and johnny and frank tied together.. Maybe johnny gassed a bit and cost them firdt but they did finish 2nd still so maybe like ct on exes he was running on empty but finished.. But thats pretty weak of jordan snd marlon though marlon acts like hes such a beast on twitter if he gasses too hes an idiot.. But frank to me would hsve said or hinted at it if johnny cost them so i just am not sure.. Its frank .. It is kind of odd they show ct saying to johnny ur not in the same shape you used to be so its foreshadowing it in a way but why would ct randomly say that before he gasses?I wanted to see ct throw ty into the table just to get ty some airtime haha but that would have been in midseason teaser its a fight.. How scared must johnny have been if tbone was a mission after last time...to bad no big hits again

[QUOTE=jojorules;360120]Well the mid season trailer gave away two of the final mens teams easily showing ct and wes runninh and johnny and frank tied together.. Maybe johnny gassed a bit and cost them firdt but they did finish 2nd still so maybe like ct on exes he was running on empty but finished.. But thats pretty weak of jordan snd marlon though marlon acts like hes such a beast on twitter if he gasses too hes an idiot.. But frank to me would hsve said or hinted at it if johnny cost them so i just am not sure.. Its frank .. It is kind of odd they show ct saying to johnny ur not in the same shape you used to be so its foreshadowing it in a way but why would ct say that before? I wanted to see ct throw ty into the table just to get ty some airtime haha but that would have been in midseason teaser its a fight..[/QUOTE] Oh right they finished 2nd, but Wes/Kenny also finished 2nd and Wes gassed out, but ya Wes finished too. Wes only had a leg cramp and was throwing up a bit, Johnny looks like he needed medical attention. Maybe the rookies quit again :p lol I doubt it, if that was in the final then maybe he was just feeling light headed and had to sit for a bit. And I thought CT said "youre not as safe as you used to be Johnny" and Wes sounds like he said "just admit it" and "we'll **** you up" will be interesting to see what theyre talking about. Maybe they try to get Johnny thrown in again. Im not even sure thats a real fight, Wes looks mad and so does CT a bit but Johnny is smiling (could be the embassed smile) and the "you mad bro!" looks like he's joking

[QUOTE=Blue123;360119] Side note: MTV is really dumb cause they may have shown CT/Wes running through the finish line cause they show them running then smoke goes off, or maybe there's explosions as they run, idk either way they obviously showed the finalist pretty clearly[/QUOTE] Hm, yet vevmo gets hated on when their trailers and intros are just as spoiler filled.

So rewatching the first few episodes of this season , I decided to break-up the cast* into 3 groups Never Wanna See,Want to See and Indifferent.* People I Don't Want to See Again Tyrie Anastasia Derek - He is just boring , even his arguements are boring Trishelle Leroy Emily Preston Diem Cooke* Johnny- He is actually the only person that just irrates me* Camila Paula Marlon People I wouldn't Mind seeing (Indifferent) CaraMaria Dunbar Jessica-Low-Key surprised me* Jasmin* Jonna Robb Sarah Theresa Ty People I would to Love see again Aneesa C.T Jordan Frank- His emotional rants are funny from time to time Jemmye Knight Nany Naomi Trey Wes Zach

[QUOTE=Npresh24;361295]So rewatching the first few episodes of this season , I decided to break-up the cast* into 3 groups Never Wanna See,Want to See and Indifferent.* People I Don't Want to See Again Tyrie Anastasia Derek - He is just boring , even his arguements are boring Trishelle Leroy Emily Preston Diem Cooke* Johnny- He is actually the only person that just irrates me* Camila Paula Marlon People I wouldn't Mind seeing (Indifferent) CaraMaria Dunbar Jessica-Low-Key surprised me* Jasmin* Jonna Robb Sarah Theresa Ty People I would to Love see again Aneesa C.T Jordan Frank- His emotional rants are funny from time to time Jemmye Knight Nany Naomi Trey Wes Zach[/QUOTE] why don't u want to see Leroy,Emily,Camila,Johnny,Cooke,or marlon those are all great competitors. No one wants to see jasmin, dunbar, or naomi they're all horrible at challenges

People are talking about the reunion in the Aneesa/Diem thread but I'll post in here instead, is the reunion really scheduled for Wednesday?? As in tomorrow?? Thats very soon, dont they usually give out tickets? Hopefully someone on here is going

[QUOTE=Npresh24;361295]So rewatching the first few episodes of this season , I decided to break-up the cast* into 3 groups Never Wanna See,Want to See and Indifferent.* People I Don't Want to See Again Tyrie Anastasia Derek - He is just boring , even his arguements are boring Trishelle Leroy Emily Preston Diem Cooke* Johnny- He is actually the only person that just irrates me* Camila Paula Marlon People I wouldn't Mind seeing (Indifferent) CaraMaria Dunbar Jessica-Low-Key surprised me* Jasmin* Jonna Robb Sarah Theresa Ty People I would to Love see again Aneesa C.T Jordan Frank- His emotional rants are funny from time to time Jemmye Knight Nany Naomi Trey Wes Zach[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Npresh24;361295]So rewatching the first few episodes of this season , I decided to break-up the cast* into 3 groups Never Wanna See,Want to See and Indifferent.* People I Don't Want to See Again Tyrie Anastasia Derek - He is just boring , even his arguements are boring Tris****e Leroy Emily Preston Diem Cooke* Johnny- He is actually the only person that just irrates me* Camila Paula Marlon People I wouldn't Mind seeing (Indifferent) CaraMaria Dunbar Jessica-Low-Key surprised me* Jasmin* Jonna Robb Sarah Theresa Ty People I would to Love see again Aneesa C.T Jordan Frank- His emotional rants are funny from time to time Jemmye Knight Nany Naomi Trey Wes Zach[/QUOTE] Why wouldnt you want to see leroy, emily, cooke, marlon and johnny? All are great competitors and as for Johnny he does make things interesting at times. I would put Johnny as indifferent. Why dunbar as indifferent? He is just as bad as tyrie. Both amount to nothing on these challenges. Ty is another one who amounts to nothing on these challenges. Barely even knew he was on this challenge. Aneesa and Naomi as people you would love see? What? Aneesa is lazy as **** and has no motivation to compete. Naomi is a horrible competitor. So basically you would rather not see competitors but rather see non competitors on a competition. Yeah makes sense.

[QUOTE=TC1210;361306]Why wouldnt you want to see leroy, emily, cooke, marlon and johnny? All are great competitors and as for Johnny he does make things interesting at times. I would put Johnny as indifferent. Why dunbar as indifferent? He is just as bad as tyrie. Both amount to nothing on these challenges. Ty is another one who amounts to nothing on these challenges. Barely even knew he was on this challenge. Aneesa and Naomi as people you would love see? What? Aneesa is lazy as **** and has no motivation to compete. Naomi is a horrible competitor. So basically you would rather not see competitors but rather see non competitors on a competition. Yeah makes sense.[/QUOTE] Yeah it does make sense since the competition aspect is literally about 25-59% of the challenge and about 45% of what they show , For me I don't care if someone is a physical beast or not (every challenge shoukd have 1 or 2) but they are borung as **** , I forgot Leroy and Emily were even on this challenge prior to the mid season trailer , someone can always become a better competitor but you can't make a boring person interesting sorry not sorry, the polotical/house dynamic is something that interests me more than the dailey challenges we see 10 % of , all the people I listed minus Camila and Johnny add nothing to that dynamic that interest me to each their own. Johnny , I just don'r like the guy nor find him interesting or even that great of a competitor pre-exes tbqh.

How did you forget about Emily when she won 5 out of the 6 challenges Naomi sucks she is just terrible And how do you like Frank over Marlon I agree with you on some of the people because I hate Johnny never liked him he always annoyed me and he treats people like dirt

I would want to see Emily again she is the only girl that i really like in the challenge...and i can't belive you would want to see Frank again over Johnny and the girls are just annoying as ****.

I tweeted this a few days ago, but I would LOVE to see a Challenge of VETS, even the OLD SCHOOL Vets. Coral Mark Long Tina Barta CT Johnny Bananas Paula Walnuts Diem Brown Rachel Remember Dan from Inferno 2? He was HILARIOUS Brad The Miz Landon Darrell Beth ( Couldn't stand her but she was entertaining ) Katie Doyle Evan & Kenny ( Even though I know they are banned ) Aneesa Derrick Tyler My list could go on...

So i guess tonight we see Jordan/Frank fight since the episode is called Crossing Jordan and next week Camila goes on the rampage since that episode is called Thrilla Camila

I can't wait to see tonight's episode i hope Emily and paula win again they are my favorite team and have any other teams in all of the challenges won as many as they did...i hope they win next week to because if they don't the other girls will try to convince the boys to throw them in i don't think the boys would do that.

I don't think any team would want to go up against them

I just realized that this is the 1st season that Wes has been not been in an elimination round. On his previous 7 challenges Fresh Meat 1 he went in 5 times, Duel 1 once, Ruins 3 times, Fresh Meat 2 once, Rivals 1 twice, Battle of the Exes twice, & Battle of the Seasons once. Now to be fair the reason is that its 100% CT why they don't go into the Jungle this season none of the guys want to face CT.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;361427]I just realized that this is the 1st season that Wes has been not been in an elimination round. On his previous 7 challenges Fresh Meat 1 he went in 5 times, Duel 1 once, Ruins 3 times, Fresh Meat 2 once, Rivals 1 twice, Battle of the Exes twice, & Battle of the Seasons once. Now to be fair the reason is that its 100% CT why they don't go into the Jungle this season none of the guys want to face CT.[/QUOTE] I'm a huge CT fan but I want to give credit where it's due, Wes being CT's partner has paid off just as much as CT being Wes partner..Actually Wes is technically the reason for some of CT's last elims and it seems like the only time CT has ever been in an elim is because of Wes On the Duel Wes got Evan to face CT, and he won the challenge that sent CT against Brad..On Rivals I he was running the house and again convinced Evan to face CT A CT elim usually has had a Wes moment behind it. Granted his political game has improved (the trivia move was proof of that) and he also has become friends with all the new guys but without Wes rallying everyone against him I think helped a huge amount

Trey in an interview was talking about how he dislikes Jordan and Jordan went from hooking up with Sarah to Jonna to now Laura.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;361438]Damn Jordan sure is getting around isn't he?[/QUOTE] I wonder how his "best friend" from his season reacts to all of this. Hopefully ol' girl has moved on.

[QUOTE=Meelz;361440]I wonder how his "best friend" from his season reacts to all of this. Hopefully ol' girl has moved on.[/QUOTE] We both know she has not

So im guessing Leroy/Ty come in Last in the challenge, and Marlon/Jordan Get Voted In?

Okay you mean to tell me that you're doing a maze where people are blindfolded and DON'T sequester the teams again?! How the **** is that fair under the rules of the competition? Now the teams that go last can count steps and all that to memorize how the maze goes and win easily

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;361488]Okay you mean to tell me that you're doing a maze where people are blindfolded and DON'T sequester the teams again?! How the **** is that fair under the rules of the competition? Now the teams that go last can count steps and all that to memorize how the maze goes and win easily[/QUOTE] They're behind a wall I believe.

[QUOTE=boncat23;361484]So im guessing Leroy/Ty come in Last in the challenge, and Marlon/Jordan Get Voted In?[/QUOTE] Yup thats my guess, Johnny line of all is fair in love,war, and challenges should be on this episode if its not cut. Im guessing Johnny/frank rally the girls to throw them in, maybe thats y we see jordan frank argument.

[QUOTE=boncat23;361484]So im guessing Leroy/Ty come in Last in the challenge, and Marlon/Jordan Get Voted In?[/QUOTE] Ohhh, this is going to be good!