Frank mentioned other cast members did drugs on the challenge... This makes me wonder what Isaac had to get him booted off Seasons. Did he just have too much drugs? were the drugs too "hard"? maybe he had a weapon instead of drugs?
[QUOTE=Coralfan;361962]As someone part of the LGBT community, I find frank to be one worst people to appear the real world to represent the community. I'll go ahead and throw Davis in that group too. However, Genesis, Tyler, Norman, and Katelynn are good.[/QUOTE]
Whats wrong with Davis?
He never said he was done for good he said he was over rivals 2 and didnt wanna discuss it anymore and he has bigger things going on .. Once he gets the call we will see what he says... He has a lot of girls on his side so he can probably get a good alliance for future challenges bur most of the guys hate him..if johnny wasnt his partner and it was rivals 1 voting though he would probably been voted in everytime till he left
[QUOTE=gbp02;364422][B]Frank mentioned other cast members did drugs on the challenge...[/B] This makes me wonder what Isaac had to get him booted off Seasons. Did he just have too much drugs? were the drugs too "hard"? maybe he had a weapon instead of drugs?[/QUOTE]
All He said was people were snorting adderal. College kids do that all the time around finals. I didn't even find it that big of a deal. He didn't say anything else from what I remember. Johnny Kenny and Evan are way worse on derricks podcast
[QUOTE=jojorules;364433][B]He never said he was done for good he said he was over rivals 2 and didnt wanna discuss it anymore and he has bigger things going on[/B] .. Once he gets the call we will see what he says... He has a lot of girls on his side so he can probably get a good alliance for future challenges bur most of the guys hate him..if johnny wasnt his partner and it was rivals 1 voting though he would probably been voted in everytime till he left[/QUOTE]
Except he's contradicting himself by continuing to argue with people on twitter about Rivals 2. If he wasn't interested in discussing the show any more then he wouldn't be continuing his usual twitter fights about the Challenges.
Honestly, I find it hard to believe Frank suddenly decided on his own that he wanted to quit the show for good. He's put in too much time and effort into being the new villain with all the fights he likes to start on the show and on social media to quit after only his second challenge. I think there's some kind of behind the scenes drama going on between Frank and production that caused him to come to this decision. Either he was banned or he's upset about the editing he got in the last episode with the whole betraying Jonna situation.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;364437]Except he's contradicting himself by continuing to argue with people on twitter about Rivals 2. If he wasn't interested in discussing the show any more then he wouldn't be continuing his usual twitter fights about the Challenges.
Honestly, I find it hard to believe Frank suddenly decided on his own that he wanted to quit the show for good. [B]He's put in too much time and effort into being the new villain[/B] with all the fights he likes to start on the show and on social media to quit after only his second challenge. I think there's some kind of behind the scenes drama going on between Frank and production that caused him to come to this decision. Either he was banned or he's upset about the editing he got in the last episode with the whole betraying Jonna situation.[/QUOTE]
Here is the thing.... I don't think he has ever[I] wanted[/I] to be considered a villain.. His skin isn't thick enough and I believe he is fully aware of that.
I honestly think he is a bit delusional and initially thinks people can/will see where he is coming from most of the time and when he is met with rejection and hate, he gets butt-hurt and retaliates...
[QUOTE=SourWolf;364437]Except he's contradicting himself by continuing to argue with people on twitter about Rivals 2. If he wasn't interested in discussing the show any more then he wouldn't be continuing his usual twitter fights about the Challenges.
Honestly, I find it hard to believe Frank suddenly decided on his own that he wanted to quit the show for good. He's put in too much time and effort into being the new villain with all the fights he likes to start on the show and on social media to quit after only his second challenge. I think there's some kind of behind the scenes drama going on between Frank and production that caused him to come to this decision. Either he was banned or he's upset about the editing he got in the last episode with the whole betraying Jonna situation.[/QUOTE]
My point was i felt he isnt done and of course he comtradicted himself he cannot help himself haha.. Or he pulls the because i am gay i get hated on card.. Yes fran THAT Is why not ur rediculous behavior
Ps i am 30 posts late but welcome to vevmo
[QUOTE=gbp02;364422]Frank mentioned other cast members did drugs on the challenge... This makes me wonder what Isaac had to get him booted off Seasons. Did he just have too much drugs? were the drugs too "hard"? maybe he had a weapon instead of drugs?[/QUOTE]
No Issac or whoever from Sydney( probably Issac cause Dunbar was on this challenge) had an un diagnosed heart condition so that prevented him from doing the stunts I guess?
[QUOTE=LexBlair;364441]Here is the thing.... I don't think he has ever[I] wanted[/I] to be considered a villain.. His skin isn't thick enough and I believe he is fully aware of that.
I honestly think he is a bit delusional and initially thinks people can/will see where he is coming from most of the time and when he is met with rejection and hate, he gets butt-hurt and retaliates...[/QUOTE]
With Frank I think it's a combination of both. He wants to be a memorable figure on these Challenges but he also has this delusional idea that he's always right. He seems like he's a very dramatic and argumentative person in real life, but I think he maybe exaggerates it a bit on the show for entertainment purposes, like most of the cast members probably do. If my latter guess is correct that he's just throwing a tantrum because the last episode made him look like a bad friend, then his "retirement" probably won't last for long.
[QUOTE=jojorules;364442]My point was i felt he isnt done and of course he comtradicted himself he cannot help himself haha.. Or he pulls the because i am gay i get hated on card.. Yes fran THAT Is why not ur rediculous behavior
Ps i am 30 posts late but welcome to vevmo[/QUOTE]
You could be right about that.
And thanks.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;364446]With Frank I think it's a combination of both. He wants to be a memorable figure on these Challenges but he also has this delusional idea that he's always right. He seems like he's a very dramatic and argumentative person in real life, but I think he maybe exaggerates it a bit on the show for entertainment purposes, like most of the cast members probably do. If my latter guess is correct that he's just throwing a tantrum because the last episode made him look like a bad friend, then his "retirement" probably won't last for long.[/QUOTE]
Frank is definitely delusional, maybe he's just mad that the show is making him look bad but really that last episode was the final straw for him? What about when they showed him looking like a sissy and crying after an argument when before the show he was trying to convince us that he punked CT...but I guess the last episode was edited wrong, he didnt actually vote for Jonna and she wasnt actually mad about being sent home because of him because he didnt have any part of her going home in the 1st place. She doesnt even seem mad about it now, I dont get why he's crying about it, you couldnt save her anymore, thats fine, it is what it is. *** is he crying about?
[QUOTE=Blue123;364448]Frank is definitely delusional, maybe he's just mad that the show is making him look bad but really that last episode was the final straw for him? What about when they showed him looking like a sissy and crying after an argument when before the show he was trying to convince us that he punked CT...but I guess the last episode was edited wrong, he didnt actually vote for Jonna and she wasnt actually mad about being sent home because of him because he didnt have any part of her going home in the 1st place. She doesnt even seem mad about it now, I dont get why he's crying about it, you couldnt save her anymore, thats fine, it is what it is. *** is he crying about?[/QUOTE]
Lets face it, Frank has a personality disorder and is in serious need of therapy.
[QUOTE=Trigger7672;364465]Lets face it, Frank has a personality disorder and is in serious need of therapy.[/QUOTE]
Haha yeah and frank I hate his yells It's a pain..... It's like he says two words then starts spitting and yelling while continuing the sentence while arguing... Haha
I do not even know if I would consider Frank crazy, because I mean these people are caged in this hot environment with no tv, internet, or cell phone for 6 - 6 1/2 with all these different personalities and it's on camera. Frank is probably that overly emotional friend who just looks like a nutjob on tv thanks to his surroundings and obviously the edit.
[QUOTE=WesandCT;364584]I do not even know if I would consider Frank crazy, because I mean these people are caged in this hot environment with no tv, internet, or cell phone for 6 - 6 1/2 with all these different personalities and it's on camera. Frank is probably that overly emotional friend who just looks like a nutjob on tv thanks to his surroundings and obviously the edit.[/QUOTE]
The problem with this theory is that he was the exact same way on the Real World. He still didn't have TV there, but he shared a mansion with only 6 people, had a normal bed/shower/phone/household amenities, could eat what he wanted, could leave and go do close to anything he would in normal life, had limited internet access, etc and he was still a nut. He was seeing a shrink on that show. He went postal when Priscilla gave him a haircut that wasn't up to his standards...
I definitely don't mind Frank as much as I used to (I still don't like him), but I absolutely think he's crazy.
[QUOTE=JL81790;364731]The problem with this theory is that he was the exact same way on the Real World. He still didn't have TV there, but he shared a mansion with only 6 people, had a normal bed/shower/phone/household amenities, could eat what he wanted, could leave and go do close to anything he would in normal life, had limited internet access, etc and he was still a nut. He was seeing a shrink on that show. He went postal when Priscilla gave him a haircut that wasn't up to his standards...
I definitely don't mind Frank as much as I used to (I still don't like him), but I absolutely think he's crazy.[/QUOTE]
Yes and most people still look crazy on the Real World as well. What you are forgetting is that you are there twice as long on the Real World giving you double of the time to have a meltdown. Even though I mentioned all the personalities Frank had to deal with, living with six or seven people can be just as frustrating. Anybody who has had college roommates knows that living with the same people for a semester can get on your nerves, and when you do not have television most of the time is occupied with alcohol and conversation. This is where me saying that Frank is that overly emotional friend would come into play...if someone were to say anything that would insult him in the 3 months that they were there he would likely overreact as a combination of his personality and alcohol. Also the edit was probably done to make him look as crazy as possible.
[QUOTE=JL81790;364731]The problem with this theory is that he was the exact same way on the Real World. He still didn't have TV there, but he shared a mansion with only 6 people, had a normal bed/shower/phone/household amenities, could eat what he wanted, could leave and go do close to anything he would in normal life, had limited internet access, etc and he was still a nut. He was seeing a shrink on that show. He went postal when Priscilla gave him a haircut that wasn't up to his standards...
I definitely don't mind Frank as much as I used to (I still don't like him), but I absolutely think he's crazy.[/QUOTE]
Strangely enough, I actually find him more mellowed with his two challenge appearances if that's believable. His meltdowns with Nate and Alexandra were pretty intense on San Diego, and he followed that up with being almost as crazy on Seasons but a little less so if that's believable. Rivals 2 is definitely the least confrontational I've ever seen him, not sure if he should be proud of himself considering he's still got a long way to go before his behavior can be characterized as anything close to rational.
I have a feeling that if Frank and Kenny(I already know the allegations with him and Evan) were to ever be on a challenge together all **** would break loose. I feel like they would end up getting into a fight.
Kenny is really witty and would say something to where Frank would probably hit him. If knight said something to make Frank punch him, it won't take long for Kenny to get in Franks head.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;364933][B]Kenny is really witty [/B]and would say something to where Frank would probably hit him. If knight said something to make Frank punch him, it won't take long for Kenny to get in Franks head.[/QUOTE]
Really? I sure as **** can't tell.
Oh and I want this team to go down in Flames.
Johnny is a lot more chill but I think he is a lot older than these people and doesn't get in dumb fights like Frank. Johnny has a great political game, that is why he always has the numbers.
I know a lot of people give Johnny a lot of **** that he doesn't have a real job well he has made a pretty good living off these shows. He is always traveling and going to all these places. I mean if you can make a living off these shows then why not. IMO
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;364991]I know a lot of people give Johnny a lot of **** that he doesn't have a real job well [B]he has made a pretty good living off these shows.[/B] He is always traveling and going to all these places. I mean if you can make a living off these shows then why not. IMO[/QUOTE]
I think he lives with his parents,after winning 4 challenges he should have bought his own place.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;364991]Johnny is a lot more chill but I think he is a lot older than these people and doesn't get in dumb fights like Frank. Johnny has a great political game, that is why he always has the numbers.
I know a lot of people give Johnny a lot of **** that he doesn't have a real job well he has made a pretty good living off these shows. He is always traveling and going to all these places. I mean if you can make a living off these shows then why not. IMO[/QUOTE]
John is only like what 32? He's not that much older that most of cast-members. I think CT is close to or Older than him and we see how crazy he can be. I don't think age has much to do about it. He's just never really been in danger when it comes to these shows(Save for The Duel 1 and Gauntlet 3) So he's never felt the need to cause trouble because he's gonna get a Free ride to the Finals anyways.
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