The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=Debut Album;366682][B]And the whole Cancer thing[/B]...I'm pretty sure they're are other people on television who survived Cancer that may have impacted people and they're probably on a show that's 10X more popular than the challenges. But I guess you can say that she may have inspired some people who have dealt with or currently dealing with Cancer on some level.[/QUOTE] Forgive me, but perhaps in future references use a little rephrasing so it does not make it seem you are making light of something very serious.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;366676]"How you choose to react to something is about you." -- Dr. Drew Pinsky Dr. Drew's statement is very simply put and, if you think about it for a few moments, it makes sense. No one else is going to have had the same exact experiences and few them exactly the same way as you. I think the general dislike about Diem from last night shows her sense of self-entitlement because she was such a poor loser about performing badly. Diem's experience and views on her life are hers. I respect her for what she has gone through but she also showed last night that she could be a poor sport about losing. If you watch it again, pay attention to all the side looks she gives Cooke or anyone else (including TJ) when they mention she lost last night. I'm not even going to go near the whole part where CT says she has no control over him anymore. She seemed as if she was trying to find someway to rationalize why she lost other than she screwed up.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying Diem's behavior was perfect last night but at the same time I think overall, through the 7 challenges she has done, she has represented herself very well. This is a reality TV show and also things get edited out and I have a feeling that Diem's reactions towards Cooke are not just out of nowhere. It seems there might have been some bullying on Cooke's part that was not shown on camera. There are two sides to every story.

Also I agree with Dr. Drew's statement, how you choose to react to something is about you in that moment. We have all reacted badly to some things in life and woke up the next day and said yesterday wasn't my best day, now let's try to make some corrections today. I don't agree with the idea that you lose your **** in one bad moment and then how you reacted to that represents who you are as a person for the rest of your life....maybe it represented how you were on that particular day but that's it. Diem has done so much good in her life and helped so many people that to label her based on one tough moment on TV is not fair. The fact is, we are all a mixture of light and dark. Don't judge unless you know someone.

[QUOTE=stefx23;366707]Also I agree with Dr. Drew's statement, how you choose to react to something is about you in that moment. We have all reacted badly to some things in life and woke up the next day and said yesterday wasn't my best day, now let's try to make some corrections today. I don't agree with the idea that you lose your **** in one bad moment and then how you reacted to that represents who you are as a person for the rest of your life....maybe it represented how you were on that particular day but that's it. Diem has done so much good in her life and helped so many people that to label her based on one tough moment on TV is not fair. The fact is, we are all a mixture of light and dark. Don't judge unless you know someone.[/QUOTE] Diem being a poor loser on these Challenges is well documented when it comes to her going into Elimination. The Duel and Fresh Meat preceded this Challenge by a couple of years and she has not changed with regards to it. CT put it best: "She's used to being in control. Now she has no control and it's driving her crazy."

[URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/955828/ep-11-sneak-peek.jhtml#id=1714073"] Ep. 11 | Sneak Peek | Video | MTV[/URL] Not looking good for diem.

Updated: [QUOTE=wutzrenzi;365798]So these are the some of the scenes that stood out in the trailers/intro but weren't shown in any of the episodes: Extended CT vs Frank Extended Aneesa vs Trishelle with Diem getting involved and held back Extended CT and Wes vs Johnny CT slamming Ty's head onto the table Jasmine being held back by Nany and another scene of her throwing her drink torwards the guys Theresa and Camila altercation Camila to Theresa: "You screwed me over twice in a row!" The wrestling matchups (Nany vs Emily) Leroy to Jonna: "You don't hvae our backs, bye!" Paula to Emily: "I don't care who we **** off" CT and Cooke cuddled up Diem: "I trust Wes more than I trust CT" [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=stuufman;366713][URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/955828/ep-11-sneak-peek.jhtml#id=1714073"] Ep. 11 | Sneak Peek | Video | MTV[/URL] Not looking good for diem.[/QUOTE] Ughhh...Diem just flipping, RELAX!!! **** she gets herself so worked up and freaked out about wanting to stay that she loses sight of the task at hand. She really needs to learn how to take a few breaths and chill out. not looking good for them at all. She is so **** frazzled, they are not going to win. At the beginning of this I felt bad for Diem, now I feel bad for Anessa.

I don't get what the problem is unless they harnessed her in weird...all four girls are basically the same height and if anything, when they're all standing next to TJ, Diem actually looks the tallest...she definitely taller than Aneesa and Camila.

[QUOTE=JL81790;366728]I don't get what the problem is unless they harnessed her in weird...all four girls are basically the same height and if anything, when they're all standing next to TJ, Diem actually looks the tallest...she definitely taller than Aneesa and Camila.[/QUOTE] It looked to me like she needed to adjust her grip on the saw. She was holding the top of the saw as opposed to the end. She'd get a few more inches if she held the end of it. The saws for her challenge were different than the saws for the challenge with Anastasia/Jessica vs. Cooke/Cara Maria.

If Aneesa was with anyone but diem she would have been thrown in a long time ago

[QUOTE=Debut Album;366682] And the whole Cancer thing...I'm pretty sure they're are other people on television who survived Cancer that may have impacted people and they're probably on a show that's 10X more popular than the challenges. But I guess you can say that she may have inspired some people who have dealt with or currently dealing with Cancer on some level.[/QUOTE] I find your sentiment to be offensive and belittling.

[QUOTE=AnneK;366729]The saws for her challenge were different than the saws for the challenge with Anastasia/Jessica vs. Cooke/Cara Maria.[/QUOTE] Apparently the saws used in the Anastasia/Jessica vs. Cooke/Cara Maria kept breaking. They must of had to edit it a bunch which ultimately cost money. Production must have decided to give them better saws this time around.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;366682]I never even said that she was the only non-Cast Member there. I'm saying that not everyone there is. Most of them are actual cast-members that were actually on The Real World. And the whole Cancer thing...I'm pretty sure they're are other people on television who survived Cancer that may have impacted people and they're probably on a show that's 10X more popular than the challenges. But I guess you can say that she may have inspired some people who have dealt with or currently dealing with Cancer on some level.[/QUOTE] As someone who has beaten cancer twice and am fighting it a third time currently, change that 'may have' to 'definitely has'. She's a huge inspiration to me. "If you don't let things crush you, you become stronger."

For all you guys interested in Danni Victor from Bad Girls Club and CT's relationship...this was her little tweet war upon rivals 2 airing on Wednesday. Subsequently, she has deleted the incriminating tweets....interesting

[QUOTE=Debut Album;366682]And the whole Cancer thing...I'm pretty sure they're are other people on television who survived Cancer that may have impacted people and they're probably on a show that's 10X more popular than the challenges. But I guess you can say that she may have inspired some people who have dealt with or currently dealing with Cancer on some level.[/QUOTE] Who are you? Are you really that insensitive or is it just that you have no compassion? Open your eyes, read the feedback on the net about Diem's inspirational presence, and then open your mind. If it bothers you that much, change the channel!

[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;366746]Apparently the saws used in the Anastasia/Jessica vs. Cooke/Cara Maria kept breaking. They must of had to edit it a bunch which ultimately cost money. Production must have decided to give them better saws this time around.[/QUOTE] Ones that don't look like they came in a martini glass?

[QUOTE=cystic;366753]Ones that don't look like they came in a martini glass?[/QUOTE] Contestants, please cut this enormous rope with the dental floss we have supplied. Ready. . . . set. . .. go. . . .

I kept expecting to see the subtitles go 1 hour later before they managed to cut it

[QUOTE=Tvandcoffee;366748]For all you guys interested in Danni Victor from Bad Girls Club and CT's relationship...this was her little tweet war upon rivals 2 airing on Wednesday. Subsequently, she has deleted the incriminating tweets....interesting[/QUOTE] Danni Victor is a known trashy girl, who gets obessively attached to whatever man she is messing with at the moment. Look at her history, mostly guys from MTV. She wanted more with CT who saw her only as a bed mate. She is now lashing out- which is suprising since I thought she had moved on after reading her twitter.

I hope this **** they shulda shown shows all the trsiler stuff they didnt show lots of good stuff.. Its wed after the episode

[QUOTE=jojorules;366784]I hope this **** they shulda shown shows all the trsiler stuff they didnt show lots of good stuff.. Its wed after the episode[/QUOTE] Wait, next week is the Finale? I thought there were two more episodes.

I never said it was last one but they r showing the **** show after it

[QUOTE=stuufman;366713][URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/955828/ep-11-sneak-peek.jhtml#id=1714073"] Ep. 11 | Sneak Peek | Video | MTV[/URL] Not looking good for diem.[/QUOTE] Watched this clip and felt for Aneesa. Like, ****.

If this was last chance then I think Aneesa & Diem would win BC Jemmye would never be able to get past Aneesa

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;366808]If this was last chance then I think Aneesa & Diem would win BC Jemmye would never be able to get past Aneesa[/QUOTE] Agreed. I think they picked the one with least skill so they could more easily manipulate the result. I know that they love having Camila on these shows (she was one of 3 characters featured in their own promos and the zombie walking into the pool was legendary scary) and Jemmye has had a hand in every argument/fight this season. Maybe the people in charge think tat Camila and Jemmye deserve more emphasis than Diem/Aneesa. I think Camila will have a much harder time in a final w/o a strong partner and Jemmye would have a hard time in a final no matter what.

I actually think they chose this elimination to give diem/anessa a chance to win. No one has the advantage in this kind of game so it could go either way. If anything the producers would want diem/anessa to win to keep milking the whole ct/diem drama. I would still take camila/jemmye over aneesa/diem in something physical. Diem isn't built for eliminations games, there's a reason why she didn't want to see a jungle this season.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;366808]If this was last chance then I think Aneesa & Diem would win BC Jemmye would never be able to get past Aneesa[/QUOTE] again, if, would, could, etc... but... Aneesa would have her hands full of Camila to even remotely care for Jemmye...