The Challenge: Best Elimination Round

[QUOTE=27502;440990]You have no argument. You really think Brad is bigger and stronger than Kenny? You must be trolling at this point.[/QUOTE] Kenny is taller, more broad, and has wrestled in college before so I'll put my money on him over Brad anyday for a strength based challenge. If CT was able to blow Brad out of the water on Duel 1 in a pushing elimination, and Kenny was able to takedown CT in a wrestling match on Inferno 3, then that should tell you who probably has the advantage here.

I love a good debate, but this is nonsense, you'll never agree on whose the best.

[QUOTE=JayTee;441031]Kenny is taller, more broad, and has wrestled in college before so I'll put my money on him over Brad anyday for a strength based challenge. If CT was able to blow Brad out of the water on Duel 1 in a pushing elimination, and Kenny was able to takedown CT in a wrestling match on Inferno 3, then that should tell you who probably has the advantage here.[/QUOTE] I don't think a drunken wrestling match is really indicative. We also never really saw it, just Kenny saying that he won.

[QUOTE=Johnny Utah;441082]I don't think a drunken wrestling match is really indicative. We also never really saw it, just Kenny saying that he won.[/QUOTE] A drunken wrestling match still has more weight than Brad beating CT on a technicality. And we saw Kenny take CT down and bust his nose.

CT would have still beat Kenny in Push Me but Kenny wouldn't have been throw around like a rag doll. Brad was pathetic there.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;441114]CT would have still beat Kenny in Push Me but Kenny wouldn't have been throw around like a rag doll. Brad was pathetic there.[/QUOTE] You don't know that.

[QUOTE=infamous;441117]You don't know that.[/QUOTE] Brad's legs are about the size of Chet's legs.

[QUOTE=infamous;441117]You don't know that.[/QUOTE] Anyone that has sight should "know" that. Brad's lower body was weak as hell

Brad is a better competitor but Kenny is stronger and bigger.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;441122]Anyone that has sight should "know" that. Brad's lower body was weak as hell[/QUOTE] Clarification, you don't know that CT would have beat Kenny.

[QUOTE=infamous;441126]Clarification, you don't know that CT would have beat Kenny.[/QUOTE] Yeah we do, it's CT he is much stronger then Kenny

I'm not sure why BMP doesn't re-use eliminations with the same names and same set ups. I know they love hall brawl and t-bone types of eliminations, but why try to innovate them (usually for worst) and give them different names?

On Gauntlet 3, if Kenny had gone into the gauntlet vs Eric in Force Field or Ankle Breaker, who do you think would have won? Kenny and Eric are around the same height I believe.

[QUOTE=toenails;442090]On Gauntlet 3, if Kenny had gone into the gauntlet vs Eric in Force Field or Ankle Breaker, who do you think would have won? Kenny and Eric are around the same height I believe.[/QUOTE] does height make a difference in those gauntlets? :P I think Kenny would win, Eric doesn't got the hart for it ( but you try to move Big Easy) :P

[QUOTE=toenails;442090]On Gauntlet 3, if Kenny had gone into the gauntlet vs Eric in Force Field or Ankle Breaker, who do you think would have won? Kenny and Eric are around the same height I believe.[/QUOTE] Height doesn't mean anything for those.... Kenny loses unless he uses the sand like frank did

People closer in height are usually closer in weight than a shorter guy & a taller guy, that's why I mentioned height. Kenny and CT were probably the only guys who could take out Eric in Force Field or Ankle Breaker.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;442103]Height doesn't mean anything for those.... Kenny loses unless he uses the sand like frank did[/QUOTE] Height does mean something for an elimination like ankle breaker. That's why Frank R. was able to have leverage when he went up against MJ BEFORE he thought of digging into the sand. Kenny wins hands down. Big Easy doesn't have the drive and will gas out. I'm sure digging in the sand will be common sense for Kennny, CT, Evan, anybody except for maybe Danny since he isn't so bright.

[QUOTE=JayTee;440058]Kenny is miles beyond better to have on your team than Brad, Abram and Alton2.0. He's a beast at finals and is the King of politics, all qualities when it comes to being a top Challenger. I'm not talking about who's the best athlete, I'm talking about there best Challengers/Competitors.[/QUOTE] Abram has smashed Kenny on many occasions, the entire Inferno 3 challenge where Abram was the undisputed leader of the team, and on the first face-off on The Island. Alton also outperformed kenny substantially on Inferno 3. Abram and Alton may not be good at politics but thats because they aren't afraid of anyone.

[QUOTE=JayTee;442187]Height does mean something for an elimination like ankle breaker. That's why Frank R. was able to have leverage when he went up against MJ BEFORE he thought of digging into the sand. Kenny wins hands down. Big Easy doesn't have the drive and will gas out. I'm sure digging in the sand will be common sense for Kennny, CT, Evan, anybody except for maybe Danny since he isn't so bright.[/QUOTE] isn't MJ taller than Frank R? Frank r was no taller than 6' 2" and MJ was about 6' 4" if not taller.

[QUOTE=Zoltan;456699]Abram has smashed Kenny on many occasions, the entire Inferno 3 challenge where Abram was the undisputed leader of the team, and on the first face-off on The Island. Alton also outperformed kenny substantially on Inferno 3. Abram and Alton may not be good at politics but thats because they aren't afraid of anyone.[/QUOTE] You know how long ago Inferno 3 was? And it was like Kenny's 3rd challenge. Do you also remember Kenny carrying Wes to the top of a mountain 40 minutes ahead of Bananas and Tyler? Not too far form the timeframe when Abram was carried out on an ambulance on Cutthroat and Alton needed an inhaler pulling 3 people on a carriage for 15 minutes. Maybe if Abram was in his prime and Alton (not Alton 2.0) returned would they be worth having on a team nowadays.

[QUOTE=JayTee;462154]You know how long ago Inferno 3 was? And it was like Kenny's 3rd challenge. Do you also remember Kenny carrying Wes to the top of a mountain 40 minutes ahead of Bananas and Tyler? Not too far form the timeframe when Abram was carried out on an ambulance on Cutthroat and Alton needed an inhaler pulling 3 people on a carriage for 15 minutes. Maybe if Abram was in his prime and Alton (not Alton 2.0) returned would they be worth having on a team nowadays.[/QUOTE] And? Abe smoked that entire season, he was the best male of the season, even with his final performance. Kenny has never been the best male on any of his seasons, except for possibly FM2.

[QUOTE=JayTee;462154]You know how long ago Inferno 3 was? And it was like Kenny's 3rd challenge. Do you also remember Kenny carrying Wes to the top of a mountain 40 minutes ahead of Bananas and Tyler? Not too far form the timeframe when Abram was carried out on an ambulance on Cutthroat and Alton needed an inhaler pulling 3 people on a carriage for 15 minutes. Maybe if Abram was in his prime and Alton (not Alton 2.0) returned would they be worth having on a team nowadays.[/QUOTE] Do you not remember the parts of Cutthroat where Abe absolutely blew away the whole competition winning pretty much every mission? This included him totally outperforming Brad, Derrick,Tyler, and Johnny Bananas (who at the time was coming off victories in the Ruins and The Island and was right before a repeat in Rivals and Exes, so he was pretty much the best overall player in the challenges). Yeah Abe died in the final but all good players have. To bring up Abe and Altons one bad performances doesnt make sense when I can do the same thing for Kenny. The first 4 or 5 missions in Rivals he was worse than Tyrie.

[QUOTE=Zoltan;462170]Do you not remember the parts of Cutthroat where Abe absolutely blew away the whole competition winning pretty much every mission? This included him totally outperforming Brad, Derrick,Tyler, and Johnny Bananas (who at the time was coming off victories in the Ruins and The Island and was right before a repeat in Rivals and Exes, so he was pretty much the best overall player in the challenges). Yeah Abe died in the final but all good players have. To bring up Abe and Altons one bad performances doesnt make sense when I can do the same thing for Kenny. The first 4 or 5 missions in Rivals he was worse than Tyrie.[/QUOTE] Yeah Kenny was so much worse than Tyrie that he sent him home once they faced off in an elimination. Honestly, some of these missions don't prove much because not all of them require such intense skill and physical capabilities. For every Bottleneck Stampede challenge you have a dumb mission like a long jump. Yes Abe did great on Cutthroat, but a final is worth a lot and he didn't come through when someone like Dunbar did. And no not all good players have died in a final (Landon, Darrell, Miz, etc) just a couple like CT and Bananas (not necessarily dying but doing poor on Rivals 2). A final should be worth more points than winning a mission and an elimination. Ken still does a lot of crossfit (not beginner crossfit either) but what do Abe and Alton do nowadays? They're not in the shape they used to be so I stand by my statement that Kenny is worth more when it comes to picking people to be on your team than Abe, Alton and Brad.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;462158]And? Abe smoked that entire season, he was the best male of the season, even with his final performance. Kenny has never been the best male on any of his seasons, except for possibly FM2.[/QUOTE] When everybody is your puppet why do you need to get your hands dirty when you know you're not in danger? Let the pawns do the work.

[QUOTE=JayTee;462193]When everybody is your puppet why do you need to get your hands dirty when you know you're not in danger? Let the pawns do the work.[/QUOTE] Kenny was only able to dominate that show because he had Laurel on his team, Abe is more of a leader as well, he also doesn't need to hide behind players like Evan and Bananas in every challenge to get to the end and don't say he doesn't do that. Abe is also more fearless and doesn't need "pawns". Put Kenny on any of the earlier challenges (Inferno and 2 or the Gauntlet) he wont last long at all without his buddies.

[QUOTE=JayTee;462193]When everybody is your puppet why do you need to get your hands dirty when you know you're not in danger? Let the pawns do the work.[/QUOTE] Haha I love how this is always your excuse for why Kenny is mediocre as a competitor. Everyone acknowledges how good he is at politics, yet you can't acknowledge he's an avergae competitor?

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;462229]Haha I love how this is always your excuse for why Kenny is mediocre as a competitor. Everyone acknowledges how good he is at politics, yet you can't acknowledge he's an avergae competitor?[/QUOTE] Landon out performed Kenny and Laurel on Fresh Meat II, and it's mostly Laurel's fault (admittedly). Kenny actually tried to jog up that mountain when they first got to it, he wasn't gassed at all. Laurel was physically incapable of catching them and had the nerve to blame the puzzle, where they could have made up time. Kenny and Wes beat Johnny/Tyler by 40+ minutes (if i recall correctly) in the first leg of Rivals 1 and only got a two minute head start lol.

[QUOTE=JayTee;462191]Yeah Kenny was so much worse than Tyrie that he sent him home once they faced off in an elimination. Honestly, some of these missions don't prove much because not all of them require such intense skill and physical capabilities. For every Bottleneck Stampede challenge you have a dumb mission like a long jump. Yes Abe did great on Cutthroat, but a final is worth a lot and he didn't come through when someone like Dunbar did. And no not all good players have died in a final (Landon, Darrell, Miz, etc) just a couple like CT and Bananas (not necessarily dying but doing poor on Rivals 2). A final should be worth more points than winning a mission and an elimination. Ken still does a lot of crossfit (not beginner crossfit either) but what do Abe and Alton do nowadays? They're not in the shape they used to be so I stand by my statement that Kenny is worth more when it comes to picking people to be on your team than Abe, Alton and Brad.[/QUOTE] LMAO Alton climbs mountains & **** in his spare time....this Crossfit crap is out of hand. It helps the women out a lot but I have yet to really see any men have great results from it. But back on topic Kenny has been average since he showed up & mucked up the show. I would take Abe & Atlon over him in a heartbeat, with Brad having a slight edge over him as well.

Kenny is an average competitor. Phenomenal at finals but as average as it gets in the daily missions.

[QUOTE=infamous;462241]Landon out performed Kenny and Laurel on Fresh Meat II, and it's mostly Laurel's fault (admittedly). Kenny actually tried to jog up that mountain when they first got to it, he wasn't gassed at all. Laurel was physically incapable of catching them and had the nerve to blame the puzzle, where they could have made up time. Kenny and Wes beat Johnny/Tyler by 40+ minutes (if i recall correctly) in the first leg of Rivals 1 and only got a two minute head start lol.[/QUOTE] Those were finals though, which I do understand he's great at, but it doesn't make up for everything else.