The Challenge: Summer 2014 - Discussion (Spoilers)

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The only way to settle it would be for them to do it again with both of their harnesses/vests on correctly.

Weight has nothing to do with strength.its all about muscle.Nia started lifting after that challenge because she felt she lacked muscle.

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

I'm saying this based on politics, Nia will most likely rather send Averey in them someone else. Also if it were BOTS and Johnny and averey were a pair again they're obviously bearable. I just don't see a scenario where she can make a finale unles she slides through but I don't think Nia would allow it. And I was a little heated at the Nia hate lol so I apologize for my opinion that I cant 100% back up. And PR I think that Averey had a great partner this season, he can obviously hold his own but I think that if it were to come down to a physical dome, Averey would be the downfall because she just doesn't seem like the strong type. Maybe athletic but not tough enough to 100% beat a person like Sarah, Nia,  Nany, or Jenna in a physical dome 

add Theresa on that list

Weight has nothing to do with strength.its all about muscle.Nia started lifting after that challenge because she felt she lacked muscle.

nope. go look at some power lifters, theres a reason that most of them are sloppily built and heavy because weight allows you to push more weight. furthermore, we are talking about reverse tug of war which is about as weight dependant of an elimination round as you can get, unless they come up with another elimination round thats called "sit on your opponent until they cant breathe" contest. nia lost against a smaller girl in a game where she ahd the most advantage.

imagine if nia went against someone her own size(like laurel or emily), she would get her clock cleaned.

I'm saying this based on politics, Nia will most likely rather send Averey in them someone else. Also if it were BOTS and JOHNNY and averey were a pair again they're obviously bearable. I just don't see a scenario where she can make a finale unles she slides through but I don't think Nia would allow. And I was a little heated at the Nia hate lol so I apologize for my opinion that I cant 100% back up.

Lol you act like Nia has a lot of power which isn't true, Leroy was the reason she made the end because he unlike her has allies

yea but as the show goes on Nia will most likely have the upper hand with politics for being more of a vet. And I've been hearing that Averey didnt get along with everyone, I haven't heard Nia getting into an altercation with anyone which will deff help. Also people like Frank, Leroy, Jordan, Jess, Theresa will have her back over Averey. I can see Nia being like a new Laurel (Laurel is obviously superior, don't get me wrong) but Nia and Cara Maria are prob the closest girl on now that has a manly stature and build.

Nia didn't get along with everyone either...Jordan for sure will have Averey back over Nia's. 

I'm saying this based on politics, Nia will most likely rather send Averey in them someone else. Also if it were BOTS and Johnny and averey were a pair again they're obviously bearable. I just don't see a scenario where she can make a finale unles she slides through but I don't think Nia would allow it. And I was a little heated at the Nia hate lol so I apologize for my opinion that I cant 100% back up. And PR I think that Averey had a great partner this season, he can obviously hold his own but I think that if it were to come down to a physical dome, Averey would be the downfall because she just doesn't seem like the strong type. Maybe athletic but not tough enough to 100% beat a person like Sarah, Nia,  Nany, or Jenna in a physical dome 

You are making it sound like Nia is a political powerhouse, which is not that case.  I am not a Nia hater at all but by what i heard being leroy's partner was beneficial for her all she had to do wasn't get last on missions...

Why's everyone arguing? Sarah and Nia are the Queens of Battle of the Exes 2. End of story. Das it.

im gonna look like such an a hole but EXACTLY! Can't wait to see Averey get 2nd place next year LOL

Oh please if Averey had a great partner with good social connections then she might but you need to shut up you haven't seen her compete so quit acting like she did bad, you don't know that.

PLEASEEEE. If anything Leroy dragged Nia down with the swimming. Nia could hold her own. Trying to give Leroy all the credit yea rightt. Averey had a great partner this year. There's no excuse for her or anyone in the game to not make the finals, she lost fair and square. Twice at that (exile)

And what make you think she didn't win exiles or eliminations?

That's because they lift.Nia didn't at the time.Cara did.That why Cara beat Nia in a challenge that requires mostly muscle.

Also Averey has a parter Nia didn't You really can't compare

EXACTLY! And nia went against IMO the strongest girl last year so obviously she was a goner. Averey had a great partner

Johnny R against Johnny B/Leroy/Zach would get destroyed

No I'm saying that because with Averey partner she should of got to the finals but she didn't.

LMAO no...In physical dome I can see anyone from bananas/Leroy/Zach and ven Jordan's teams beating Averey/Johnny R.

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 


I agree, lets not forget how cara was only a decent competitor and a clear weak link on pretty much every season before free agents

That's because they lift.Nia didn't at the time.Cara did.That why Cara beat Nia in a challenge that requires mostly muscle.

lol okay, keep telling yourself that

Why's everyone arguing? Sarah and Nia are the Queens of Battle of the Exes 2. End of story. Das it.

im gonna look like such an a hole but EXACTLY! Can't wait to see Averey get 2nd place next year LOL

Oh please if Averey had a great partner with good social connections then she might but you need to shut up you haven't seen her compete so quit acting like she did bad, you don't know that.

PLEASEEEE. If anything Leroy dragged Nia down with the swimming. Nia could hold her own. Trying to give Leroy all the credit yea rightt. Averey had a great partner this year. There's no excuse for her or anyone in the game to not make the finals, she lost fair and square. Twice at that (exile)

Lol Leroy is MUCH stronger and a better competitor then Johnny R and I like Johnny a lot more then Leroy.

Thats debatable. Johnny is much better at missions, swimming, and puzzles(they're both pretty dumb). Final wise I see Johnny  as a bigger threat

Exactly final wise! Elimination wise especially if they are physical like they were last season Averey/johnny didn't have a chance against Nia/Leroy...

 

I just find this rivalry tiresome. Hope they're cordial. 

I love Averey but I can totally see people not liking her. Averey is the type of person if she doesn't like you she isn't afraid to show it atleast that is the way it seemed on TV. She is following Jemmye/Theresa/Brittany out of the girls on the challenge. I bet her and Nany got into it.

I love Averey but I can totally see people not liking her. Averey is the type of person if she doesn't like you she isn't afraid to show it atleast that is the way it seemed on TV. She is following Jemmye/Theresa/Brittany out of the girls on the challenge. I bet her and Nany got into it.

That & a very condescending, conceited vibe she has about herself.

I'm not saying it didn't require any weight at all because it did I'm just saying it required mostly leg and arm muscle.

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.

Also Averey has a parter Nia didn't You really can't compare

EXACTLY! And nia went against IMO the strongest girl last year so obviously she was a goner. Averey had a great partner

Johnny R against Johnny B/Leroy/Zach would get destroyed

that doesn't mean he's not a great partner. If that's the case then only Johnny B, Leroy, Zach are great competitors yet only Leroy made the final.

Why's everyone arguing? Sarah and Nia are the Queens of Battle of the Exes 2. End of story. Das it.

im gonna look like such an a hole but EXACTLY! Can't wait to see Averey get 2nd place next year LOL

Oh please if Averey had a great partner with good social connections then she might but you need to shut up you haven't seen her compete so quit acting like she did bad, you don't know that.

PLEASEEEE. If anything Leroy dragged Nia down with the swimming. Nia could hold her own. Trying to give Leroy all the credit yea rightt. Averey had a great partner this year. There's no excuse for her or anyone in the game to not make the finals, she lost fair and square. Twice at that (exile)

And what make you think she didn't win exiles or eliminations?

well she obviously didn't win enough to make the final. 

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.


You're ignoring the fact Cara was only decent before free agents

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.

You're ignoring the fact Cara was only decent before free agents

thts your opinion, not a fact. 

FRESH MEAT: lost to a strong team, was the strongest girl in the selection thingy.

CUTTHROAT: Beat MANDI, played her politics right, didn't gas out in the final unlike Laurel and Sarah.

RIVALS: Sucked at missions but performed well at elimination. Got 2nd place.

BATTLE OF THE EXES: she was emotionally a hot mess, went against Emily, her partner lost to Ty(wtf).

BATTLE OF THE SEASONS: was doomed. Huge target on their back. Won 1 elimination, lost 1.

RIVALS 2:

Sucked at missions, performed well in eliminations. Sent home 2 teams. Came in 2nd place!

FREE AGENTS

okay at missions. Sent home 3 girls, lost to the best girl that season: Laurel.

3 finals in 7 seasons is pretty good. 2 second place finished.

has won 9 elimination rounds. She's a good competitor.

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.

You're ignoring the fact Cara was only decent before free agents

thts your opinion, not a fact. 

FRESH MEAT: lost to a strong team, was the strongest girl in the selection thingy.

CUTTHROAT: Beat MANDI, played her politics right, didn't gas out in the final unlike Laurel and Sarah.

RIVALS: Sucked at missions but performed well at elimination. Got 2nd place.

BATTLE OF THE EXES: she was emotionally a hot mess, went against Emily, her partner lost to Ty(wtf).

BATTLE OF THE SEASONS: was doomed. Huge target on their back. Won 1 elimination, lost 1.

RIVALS 2:

Sucked at missions, performed well in eliminations. Sent home 2 teams. Came in 2nd place!

FREE AGENTS

okay at missions. Sent home 3 girls, lost to the best girl that season: Laurel.

3 finals in 7 seasons is pretty good. 2 second place finished.

has won 9 elimination rounds. She's a good competitor.


Lol she was horrible on cutthroat she only made it to the end by banging Abram And Laurel didn't gas out in the final. You can't compare her to someone elite because elite competitors don't perform terribly in a lot of missions like she has

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.

You're ignoring the fact Cara was only decent before free agents

thts your opinion, not a fact. 

FRESH MEAT: lost to a strong team, was the strongest girl in the selection thingy.

CUTTHROAT: Beat MANDI, played her politics right, didn't gas out in the final unlike Laurel and Sarah.

RIVALS: Sucked at missions but performed well at elimination. Got 2nd place.

BATTLE OF THE EXES: she was emotionally a hot mess, went against Emily, her partner lost to Ty(wtf).

BATTLE OF THE SEASONS: was doomed. Huge target on their back. Won 1 elimination, lost 1.

RIVALS 2:

Sucked at missions, performed well in eliminations. Sent home 2 teams. Came in 2nd place!

FREE AGENTS

okay at missions. Sent home 3 girls, lost to the best girl that season: Laurel.

3 finals in 7 seasons is pretty good. 2 second place finished.

has won 9 elimination rounds. She's a good competitor.

Lol she was horrible on cutthroat she only made it to the end by banging Abram And Laurel didn't gas out in the final. You can't compare her to someone elite because elite competitors don't perform terribly in a lot of missions like she has

Laurel emotionally gassed out in the cutthroat final, she started crying and *****ing , Cara did not. 

That was definitely more about strength than weight

weight and strength often have proportional relationships to each other. thats why ct, zach, laurel, emily push the most weigh in the challenges, because their builds allow for that sort of strength. how does nia and her 6 feet compare? so nia is 6 feet but has the strength of a 5"7 woman. thats impressive.

so your saying that Jonna can beat Nia because she's 5"7? Cara Maria has insane muscle. I mean they were there for 2 hours, Nias arm lost all strength. Just cause Cara is shortish doesn't mean she can be categorized with people her height. Cara is in the Emily, Laurel category IMO

Oh this I cannot agree with. There is a category that is Emily, Laurel, Evelyn, and Rachel Robinson. Cara is not in this group. She's not nearly athletic enough. She's incredibly fit but there is an athleticism that all four of those girls have that Cara will never have. 

Im talking about a competitor all around. Strength, endurance. Cara would definetly give Laurel and Evelyn a run for their money in any elimination. Emily and Rachel are deadly weapons of force lol they're huge and muscular. I agree Emily and Rachel are superior to Cara.

You're ignoring the fact Cara was only decent before free agents

thts your opinion, not a fact. 

FRESH MEAT: lost to a strong team, was the strongest girl in the selection thingy.

CUTTHROAT: Beat MANDI, played her politics right, didn't gas out in the final unlike Laurel and Sarah.

RIVALS: Sucked at missions but performed well at elimination. Got 2nd place.

BATTLE OF THE EXES: she was emotionally a hot mess, went against Emily, her partner lost to Ty(wtf).

BATTLE OF THE SEASONS: was doomed. Huge target on their back. Won 1 elimination, lost 1.

RIVALS 2:

Sucked at missions, performed well in eliminations. Sent home 2 teams. Came in 2nd place!

FREE AGENTS

okay at missions. Sent home 3 girls, lost to the best girl that season: Laurel.

3 finals in 7 seasons is pretty good. 2 second place finished.

has won 9 elimination rounds. She's a good competitor.

Lol she was horrible on cutthroat she only made it to the end by banging Abram And Laurel didn't gas out in the final. You can't compare her to someone elite because elite competitors don't perform terribly in a lot of missions like she has

 

Good thing she didn't gas out on Cutthroat because she probably didn't want to fail her team like she failed Kenny on FM2.

Why are you guys comparing Nia and Averey.You can't compare because Averey has a partner.If this was a solo challenge yes you would be able to.

Why are you guys comparing Nia and Averey.You can't compare because Averey has a partner.If this was a solo challenge yes you would be able to.

I am not comparing her, I am stating what I heard as Averey as an individual competitor that she hold her own. 

LOL, i have heard plenty of bad things about nia on RW season from other castmates. She used to threaten the production crew to not follow her while she went and did drugs with that dom kid... lol lets not get into the RW season.

sneak attack her? she stood next to her before johnny got out and i think anyone with a common sense would say if i start to beat on her BF shes gonna come hit me. But coming from behind while it was over and punching her in the back of the head was totally not sneak attack. wtf

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