OMG i just watched that clip and I have to salute Heather for not slapping the shit out of Joe. If I were Dustin in that situation, Joe wouldve needed Jesus Christ to hop off the cross and save him with the *** whooping I would've given him.
She looks calm and normal, but she can be feisty lol
Heather owned Joe Francis in that and she told off Frank on twitter perfectly. Heather is really good with her words and knows how to tell people off.
Totally, I remember she called out bananas too during exes, when johnny said a joke about dustin and heather told him that she didnt know jimmy neutron was on the show or something like that, and then called him out on not having a job and being a loser.
The only people that would actualy impact the shwo if they quit is Banananas, CT, Cara, Camila, Jonna, Zach, and IMO Theresa. I'm so used to seeing Theresa on these shows that if she weren't on them it'd affect the show a bit for me. but thats just me.
I don't think Theresa's going anywhere but I don't think anyone after Bananas & CT would impact the show these days.
Others far more important to the show than Theresa faded away and few people realized.
I agree, Bananas and CT leaving would be the most impactful to the future of the challenges, but that's only due to them being on 100 seasons, CT more so, because he's been there since Veronica was hot shit and also because each season of the challenge they appear, heavily revolves around them, so I think that's the whole MTV made of themselves. They created two protagonists in a pool of secondary/recuring characters. I think their best hope is phasing them out. I think Theresa should stay since she seems to be the next upcoming antagonist and Johnny being a protagonist. But that's just I see things.
I honestly feel like this is closer than we all think. If they just filmed aftershows and there was no mention of him, and with Diem's untimely passing, I think CT is done.
That is completely understandable, and given (from what I heard) that CT only wanted to do this Diem, I'd say if really wasn't planning on coming back (for this season). At the very least, he'd probably take some time to deal with his loss. The Challenge is a toxic place for people in those situations, just look at Camila for an example.
I don't think Camila is a great example, she is always the same drunk mess just look at exes 1. I think the best example of that is CT on the duel 2,that was right after his brother passing away and he had a lot of build up anger.
I meant, Camila on FA after her father passed away. She was broken down. I didn't know that happened, but I think it would've been best for her to take a break.
I'm glad it's agreed Heather is excellent in putting people in their place in the most calm way. I remember the best thing Frank could call her was an alien fivehead? I wish more people could do this without having to do the most (screaming, having a meltdown, etc.). I really wish she did Exes 2 with Dustin. Imagine if Jordan tried her with the sitting in the back?
The only people that would actualy impact the shwo if they quit is Banananas, CT, Cara, Camila, Jonna, Zach, and IMO Theresa. I'm so used to seeing Theresa on these shows that if she weren't on them it'd affect the show a bit for me. but thats just me.
I don't think Theresa's going anywhere but I don't think anyone after Bananas & CT would impact the show these days.
Others far more important to the show than Theresa faded away and few people realized.
I agree, Bananas and CT leaving would be the most impactful to the future of the challenges, but that's only due to them being on 100 seasons, CT more so, because he's been there since Veronica was hot shit and also because each season of the challenge they appear, heavily revolves around them, so I think that's the whole MTV made of themselves. They created two protagonists in a pool of secondary/recuring characters. I think their best hope is phasing them out. I think Theresa should stay since she seems to be the next upcoming antagonist and Johnny being a protagonist. But that's just I see things.
That's the best way to describe it and IMO it's the dumbest route BMP/MTV ever took with this show. This show is about a group of people not 1 or 2. To bring back these two constantly and center the show around them everytime they're on really doesn't help this show at all. And with CT being possibly done..I don't know.
And honestly. Theresa can stay where she's at. One-less non-castmember on these shows.
I get what PinkRose is saying about Beth, Mark & Coral being the only people but this is a mistake and it is sad BMP doesn't see this. There's no difference introducing someone from the past in a 10 second clip than anyone from ExPlosion or AYTO or Skeltons (I think that's the new season). There's people from the past, 30+ or otherwise, that are just as good at bringing drama. Drama doesn't have to exist over *** or being a *****. It can exist over competition and i have no doubt the best drama this season will come from it. See Sarah
This I agree with. And I'll also add that drama doesn't have to involve alcohol either. That's why I don't get why they exclude people from this show just because they don't drink.
And has ANYONE ever wondered why Cory from RW: EXPLOSION hasn't been asked to do a Challenge..like I would think he would be a first choice from that season...along with Jenny <3
He was asked...Jenny said no--at least that's my understanding
I have no idea who Cory or Jenny are but that is what has been said
both Jenny/Lauren declined so he got dropped from the cast.
And has ANYONE ever wondered why Cory from RW: EXPLOSION hasn't been asked to do a Challenge..like I would think he would be a first choice from that season...along with Jenny <3
He was asked...Jenny said no--at least that's my understanding
I have no idea who Cory or Jenny are but that is what has been said
both Jenny/Lauren declined so he got dropped from the cast.
And has ANYONE ever wondered why Cory from RW: EXPLOSION hasn't been asked to do a Challenge..like I would think he would be a first choice from that season...along with Jenny <3
He was asked...Jenny said no--at least that's my understanding
I have no idea who Cory or Jenny are but that is what has been said
both Jenny/Lauren declined so he got dropped from the cast.
Did they not try for a Cory/Ashley pair?
I heard Ashley M, never heard from production after the first call...So thats a no, which was stupid from production
Since when thoo..Leroy is a cool guy, you would either have to betray him or blatantly disrespect him in order for him to just dislike you it seems like. Sarah seems cool but i can't deal with her underline cockyness, or I might just have her confused with Emily with that one lol..I LOVE her drive though..she's just so dramatic at time. Lol
Since when thoo..Leroy is a cool guy, you would either have to betray him or blatantly disrespect him in order for him to just dislike you it seems like. Sarah seems cool but i can't deal with her underline cockyness, or I might just have her confused with Emily with that one lol..I LOVE her drive though..she's just so dramatic at time. Lol
One of the audience members on the aftershow stated that both Bananas/Leroy were screaming at Sarah on one of the aftershow film last week.
Sarah & Leroy are beefing/not so cool?? Since when thoo..Leroy is a cool guy, you would either have to betray him or blatantly disrespect him in order for him to just dislike you it seems like. Sarah seems cool but i can't deal with her underline cockyness, or I might just have her confused with Emily with that one lol..I LOVE her drive though..she's just so dramatic at time. Lol
One of the audience members on the aftershow stated that both Bananas/Leroy were screaming at Sarah on one of the aftershow film last week.
I can't wait to see this. Have you heard anything else about the aftershows like the Nany/Theresa/Averey situation?
Sarah & Leroy are beefing/not so cool?? Since when thoo..Leroy is a cool guy, you would either have to betray him or blatantly disrespect him in order for him to just dislike you it seems like. Sarah seems cool but i can't deal with her underline cockyness, or I might just have her confused with Emily with that one lol..I LOVE her drive though..she's just so dramatic at time. Lol
One of the audience members on the aftershow stated that both Bananas/Leroy were screaming at Sarah on one of the aftershow film last week.
I can't wait to see this. Have you heard anything else about the aftershows like the Nany/Theresa/Averey situation?
I heard those after shows were shit shows = A lot of drama , especially with those 3 lol
But keep in mind they have to edit 4 hours or so into 30 minutes with commercials
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Can definitely see that. Especially since they hate Wes and to see her & Jordan align with them is like killing them
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I can see both ways. I can see Johnny & Leroy's side because if Sarah sides with Wes, wasn't Wes the one to put Sarah into elimination against Kenny in FM2? Also, wasn't it Wes' teammate's fault for wearing fabric not qualified to be called a shirt (lol yes I know it's Vinny's fault) and getting DQ'ed. Sarah technically has been screwed by Wes twice. Johnny & Leroy really never screwed Sarah over.
Now I can see Sarah's side as well. Listen, Johnny is no saint himself. He's thrown his friends under the bus at times (The Ruins, The Island, Rivals). Sarah was probably thinking, he already hates Jordan. He'll probably use the it's your partner's fault excuse.
We have to see how it plays out but I'm excited to see Bananas sweat lol
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I can see both ways. I can see Johnny & Leroy's side because if Sarah sides with Wes, wasn't Wes the one to put Sarah into elimination against Kenny in FM2? Also, wasn't it Wes' teammate's fault for wearing fabric not qualified to be called a shirt (lol yes I know it's Vinny's fault) and getting DQ'ed. Sarah technically has been screwed by Wes twice. Johnny & Leroy really never screwed Sarah over.
Now I can see Sarah's side as well. Listen, Johnny is no saint himself. He's thrown his friends under the bus at times (The Ruins, The Island, Rivals). Sarah was probably thinking, he already hates Jordan. He'll probably use the it's your partner's fault excuse.
We have to see how it plays out but I'm excited to see Bananas sweat lol
When did Bananas throw his friends under the bus on Ruins & Rivals? Please be specific.
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I can see both ways. I can see Johnny & Leroy's side because if Sarah sides with Wes, wasn't Wes the one to put Sarah into elimination against Kenny in FM2? Also, wasn't it Wes' teammate's fault for wearing fabric not qualified to be called a shirt (lol yes I know it's Vinny's fault) and getting DQ'ed. Sarah technically has been screwed by Wes twice. Johnny & Leroy really never screwed Sarah over.
Now I can see Sarah's side as well. Listen, Johnny is no saint himself. He's thrown his friends under the bus at times (The Ruins, The Island, Rivals). Sarah was probably thinking, he already hates Jordan. He'll probably use the it's your partner's fault excuse.
We have to see how it plays out but I'm excited to see Bananas sweat lol
When did Bananas throw his friends under the bus on Ruins & Rivals? Please be specific.
Thinking back, Rivals was more Kenny & Wes' fault than Bananas so I retract that part of the statement. I was going to talk about the final elimination when Leroy/Mike won and they had to throw one another in against CT. But, I remember in the Ruins final elimination deliberation, Bananas was trying to get Kenny to go into the final elimination against Dunbar instead of himself.
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I can see both ways. I can see Johnny & Leroy's side because if Sarah sides with Wes, wasn't Wes the one to put Sarah into elimination against Kenny in FM2? Also, wasn't it Wes' teammate's fault for wearing fabric not qualified to be called a shirt (lol yes I know it's Vinny's fault) and getting DQ'ed. Sarah technically has been screwed by Wes twice. Johnny & Leroy really never screwed Sarah over.
Now I can see Sarah's side as well. Listen, Johnny is no saint himself. He's thrown his friends under the bus at times (The Ruins, The Island, Rivals). Sarah was probably thinking, he already hates Jordan. He'll probably use the it's your partner's fault excuse.
We have to see how it plays out but I'm excited to see Bananas sweat lol
When did Bananas throw his friends under the bus on Ruins & Rivals? Please be specific.
Thinking back, Rivals was more Kenny & Wes' fault than Bananas so I retract that part of the statement. I was going to talk about the final elimination when Leroy/Mike won and they had to throw one another in against CT. But, I remember in the Ruins final elimination deliberation, Bananas was trying to get Kenny to go into the final elimination against Dunbar instead of himself.
Yeah but technically Evan, Kenny & Derrick threw him under the bus making him go against Dunbar.
OMG i just watched that clip and I have to salute Heather for not slapping the shit out of Joe. If I were Dustin in that situation, Joe wouldve needed Jesus Christ to hop off the cross and save him with the *** whooping I would've given him.
Heather just went up in my book.
I meant, Camila on FA after her father passed away. She was broken down. I didn't know that happened, but I think it would've been best for her to take a break.
I'm glad it's agreed Heather is excellent in putting people in their place in the most calm way. I remember the best thing Frank could call her was an alien fivehead? I wish more people could do this without having to do the most (screaming, having a meltdown, etc.). I really wish she did Exes 2 with Dustin. Imagine if Jordan tried her with the sitting in the back?
That's the best way to describe it and IMO it's the dumbest route BMP/MTV ever took with this show. This show is about a group of people not 1 or 2. To bring back these two constantly and center the show around them everytime they're on really doesn't help this show at all. And with CT being possibly done..I don't know.
And honestly. Theresa can stay where she's at. One-less non-castmember on these shows.
This I agree with. And I'll also add that drama doesn't have to involve alcohol either. That's why I don't get why they exclude people from this show just because they don't drink.
Jordan is not all competition, he is also trying to be Bananas v2
Maybe this is how he is? Not everybody want to be like others...
What I don't understand is why they didn't try getting Frank/Dustin, CT/Bananas, Darrell/Wes and Alton/Zach for Rivals2?
Wasn't Dustin filming couples therapy at the time?
Darrell/Wes would have been an awesome team. I didn't even think about that.
both Jenny/Lauren declined so he got dropped from the cast.
I totally forgot about Lauren. I thought I'd see her on a challenge before Hailey.
Did they not try for a Cory/Ashley pair?
I heard Ashley M, never heard from production after the first call...So thats a no, which was stupid from production
Thats true. He just seems hungry to be a big name in the challenge imo.
Why? I can't see Lauren ever coming back.
So does anyone know what the Sarah/Leroy beef is about? Those two seemed like the two unlikeliest people to have beef
Yeah considering Leroy doesn't hate like anyone... and Sarah/Nia are still cool.
Sarah & Leroy are beefing/not so cool??
Since when thoo..Leroy is a cool guy, you would either have to betray him or blatantly disrespect him in order for him to just dislike you it seems like. Sarah seems cool but i can't deal with her underline cockyness, or I might just have her confused with Emily with that one lol..I LOVE her drive though..she's just so dramatic at time. Lol
One of the audience members on the aftershow stated that both Bananas/Leroy were screaming at Sarah on one of the aftershow film last week.
I can't wait to see this. Have you heard anything else about the aftershows like the Nany/Theresa/Averey situation?
I heard those after shows were shit shows = A lot of drama , especially with those 3 lol
But keep in mind they have to edit 4 hours or so into 30 minutes with commercials
Are we gonna have an elimination round this week?
I have a feeling that Leroy and Nia got last place in a mission and Sarah and Jordan won, Sarah then promising Bananas she wouldnt vote him because they are friends but then actually ends up sending Bananas and Nany in.... They were probably yelling at her for backstabbing Bananas
Can definitely see that. Especially since they hate Wes and to see her & Jordan align with them is like killing them
Yeah I agree something like that definitely went down & that's why there so ****** at her. Can't same I blame them though.
I can see both ways. I can see Johnny & Leroy's side because if Sarah sides with Wes, wasn't Wes the one to put Sarah into elimination against Kenny in FM2? Also, wasn't it Wes' teammate's fault for wearing fabric not qualified to be called a shirt (lol yes I know it's Vinny's fault) and getting DQ'ed. Sarah technically has been screwed by Wes twice. Johnny & Leroy really never screwed Sarah over.
Now I can see Sarah's side as well. Listen, Johnny is no saint himself. He's thrown his friends under the bus at times (The Ruins, The Island, Rivals). Sarah was probably thinking, he already hates Jordan. He'll probably use the it's your partner's fault excuse.
We have to see how it plays out but I'm excited to see Bananas sweat lol
When did Bananas throw his friends under the bus on Ruins & Rivals? Please be specific.
Thinking back, Rivals was more Kenny & Wes' fault than Bananas so I retract that part of the statement. I was going to talk about the final elimination when Leroy/Mike won and they had to throw one another in against CT. But, I remember in the Ruins final elimination deliberation, Bananas was trying to get Kenny to go into the final elimination against Dunbar instead of himself.
Yeah but technically Evan, Kenny & Derrick threw him under the bus making him go against Dunbar.
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