I fell asleep, what happened? How did Jonna do and what did Zach do this time? Did she cry?
Karma came around Editing was building up to this episode. Zach cost tehm teh game.
i feel like this has been one of the best editing jobs they've ever done on a challenge tbh. They were ruthless the way they set his story up **** good job MTV.
That's so funny you say that since some people think this is the worst edited season ever. I don't know what to think, I mean it's better than some of the seasons that were completely centered around CT/Bananas/JEK.
I love Zach this season. What he is doing is more of motivating Jonna. Jonna needs some tough love. She sucks this season. Not impressed with her performance. I'm a Zach fan and I don't see a problem with what he's doing this season. The only concern I had was when he lied to Bananas but who doesn't lie?
I fell asleep, what happened? How did Jonna do and what did Zach do this time? Did she cry?
Karma came around Editing was building up to this episode. Zach cost tehm teh game.
i feel like this has been one of the best editing jobs they've ever done on a challenge tbh. They were ruthless the way they set his story up **** good job MTV.
That's so funny you say that since some people think this is the worst edited season ever. I don't know what to think, I mean it's better than some of the seasons that were completely centered around CT/Bananas/JEK.
well I mean I'm specifically talking about Jonna and Zach's storyline from start to finish as a standalone story, it was stellar imo but as for the other couples I found them super underwhelming. Banany's in particular seemed forced as **** like I don't think anyone was falling for Nanys whole residual feelings for bananas thing. Overall yeah I don't think its been that good but ia with you, certainly better than a CT/Bananas/JEK centric season.
I fell asleep, what happened? How did Jonna do and what did Zach do this time? Did she cry?
Karma came around Editing was building up to this episode. Zach cost tehm teh game.
i feel like this has been one of the best editing jobs they've ever done on a challenge tbh. They were ruthless the way they set his story up **** good job MTV.
That's so funny you say that since some people think this is the worst edited season ever. I don't know what to think, I mean it's better than some of the seasons that were completely centered around CT/Bananas/JEK.
well I mean I'm specifically talking about Jonna and Zach's storyline from start to finish as a standalone story, it was stellar imo but as for the other couples I found them super underwhelming. Banany's in particular seemed forced as **** like I don't think anyone was falling for Nanys whole residual feelings for bananas thing. Overall yeah I don't think its been that good but ia with you, certainly better than a CT/Bananas/JEK centric season.
Yeah it got people talking. Last season I was in love with the Laurel vs Cara Maria frenemy up until their epic elimination round. To me that was the storyline of that season, and this season was Zach vs Jonna. I wish they showed her crying in the mirror like they did in the previews :(.
And I also agree a lot of couples were underwhelming, there was very little bad blood between partners. This season went by pretty fast actually.
I fell asleep, what happened? How did Jonna do and what did Zach do this time? Did she cry?
Karma came around Editing was building up to this episode. Zach cost tehm teh game.
i feel like this has been one of the best editing jobs they've ever done on a challenge tbh. They were ruthless the way they set his story up **** good job MTV.
That's so funny you say that since some people think this is the worst edited season ever. I don't know what to think, I mean it's better than some of the seasons that were completely centered around CT/Bananas/JEK.
well I mean I'm specifically talking about Jonna and Zach's storyline from start to finish as a standalone story, it was stellar imo but as for the other couples I found them super underwhelming. Banany's in particular seemed forced as **** like I don't think anyone was falling for Nanys whole residual feelings for bananas thing. Overall yeah I don't think its been that good but ia with you, certainly better than a CT/Bananas/JEK centric season.
Yeah it got people talking. Last season I was in love with the Laurel vs Cara Maria frenemy up until their epic elimination round. To me that was the storyline of that season, and this season was Zach vs Jonna. I wish they showed her crying in the mirror like they did in the previews :(.
And I also agree a lot of couples were underwhelming, there was very little bad blood between partners. This season went by pretty fast actually.
yaaas I loved the laurel/cara storyline too. Even that random Jessica stuff towards the end lol I was like ***!? I'd never seen her and laurel even talk to each other before that Ep where did that come from?! Or maybe they did idk Jessica scenes are just white noise to me more often than not tbh.
Zach must've REALLY ****** off production this season lol.
i mean all he did was be himself. I'm sure production is just filled with regular people who aren't absolutely vile.
He hasn't tweeted this season, but he logged in to take MTV ouy of his handle. He also hasn't been active on instagram. I wonder who he will blame? He said he would stand by his words.
I loved how he was muttering under his breath when Sarah was trying to comfort Jonna. Thor was beat by a guy with one hand.
I just want to post this to show how well Jonna has done and how close she makes it almost every time, but loses to an amazing player right before the end. It's so frustrating to watch as a fan of hers, I can't imagine what it's like to be her.
4th - Rivals 1
4th - Battle of the Seasons 2
5th - Rivals 2
5th - Exes 2
These are her placements for 4 out of the 5 seasons she's been on.
Eliminated by: Cara Maria (x2), Cooke, Laurel, Aneesa, and now Sarah. All of these are females who are considered some of the best female competitors on the show.
*sigh*
i believe it was ashley and frank that took jonna and derek out of bots2. still impressive. ive always liked her since rivals. i was upset Blast Off was chosen for them to go against laurel. they had no chance in that elimination.
Okay I watched the episode, and I've noticed that Jonna is a really good runner and jumper. I remember on past challenges, she was awesome at jumping missions, and she ran the fastest at the body paint one.
Did you see how fast she was moving during this truck mission and the jumps she was making? Girl was killing it!
Okay I watched the episode, and I've noticed that Jonna is a really good runner and jumper. I remember on past challenges, she was awesome at jumping missions, and she ran the fastest at the body paint one.
Did you see how fast she was moving during this truck mission and the jumps she was making? Girl was killing it!
She did a great job. But of course Zach, being the jerk that he is, still found things to ***** about.
I just want to post this to show how well Jonna has done and how close she makes it almost every time, but loses to an amazing player right before the end. It's so frustrating to watch as a fan of hers, I can't imagine what it's like to be her.
4th - Rivals 1
4th - Battle of the Seasons 2
5th - Rivals 2
5th - Exes 2
These are her placements for 4 out of the 5 seasons she's been on.
Eliminated by: Cara Maria (x2), Cooke, Laurel, Aneesa, and now Sarah. All of these are females who are considered some of the best female competitors on the show.
*sigh*
i believe it was ashley and frank that took jonna and derek out of bots2. still impressive. ive always liked her since rivals. i was upset Blast Off was chosen for them to go against laurel. they had no chance in that elimination.
Don't get me started on that rigged ****. They were so wrong for that.. especially since it was new games each round until that round. It made no sense.
I just want to post this to show how well Jonna has done and how close she makes it almost every time, but loses to an amazing player right before the end. It's so frustrating to watch as a fan of hers, I can't imagine what it's like to be her.
4th - Rivals 1
4th - Battle of the Seasons 2
5th - Rivals 2
5th - Exes 2
These are her placements for 4 out of the 5 seasons she's been on.
Eliminated by: Cara Maria (x2), Cooke, Laurel, Aneesa, and now Sarah. All of these are females who are considered some of the best female competitors on the show.
*sigh*
i believe it was ashley and frank that took jonna and derek out of bots2. still impressive. ive always liked her since rivals. i was upset Blast Off was chosen for them to go against laurel. they had no chance in that elimination.
Don't get me started on that rigged ****. They were so wrong for that.. especially since it was new games each round until that round. It made no sense.
That was so messed up. BMP knew what they were doing.
Is Jonna one of those self hating mixed girls, like Milyn from BGC? Is she even mixed? She looks like it..
yeah she's mixed. I'm mixed too and I don't get why people always say we are self-hating just because we've dated white guys. We're white AND black, yet if we only dated black guys no one would say we're self hating for not dating white guys. It shouldn't matter. There are beautiful great people in every race. When you think one is superior to the other is when it's wrong.
Jonna embraces the fro (something I can't do because my hair type is more like a Latina with wavy hair), which is beautiful and shows pride, close with people from the shows like Simone, and she was saying on Twitter how hot Cory from Explosions was. I don't get the self-hating vibe from her at all, fortunately.
I'm mixed too and I know why a lot of people think that - racism. "They aren't fully white, God they must hate the black part if themselves and wish they were all white!! That's why they date white men obviously!!!" Nah some of us are attracted to certain people, believe it or not, because of their personalities! I'm not saying self hating mixed girls/boys don't exist (people self hate in all types of races mixed or not) but the immediate assumption that we must hate the black part of ourselves due to the way we style our hair, who we date, what we wear etc is ****** up. Period.
if you say that partner cant be black and has to be white then that doesnt mean youre looking for personality. that means youre looking for race .
everyone has preferences but for jonna, devyn, it seems to be a dealbreaker.
Eh, i'm so back and forth on that topic dating only certain races. But at the end of the day it comes down to preferences. I don't think it's self-hate if she naturally isn't attracted to black men (and we've never heard that come out of her mouth) but it is when you brag about it and say it to bring black men down as if they're not worth anything (Devyn). You see what i'm saying?
there probably is some uncomfortability with her afro side if shes purposely trying to avoid it. she probably has some ideal man in her mind and thats probably a zach/CJ type.
for devyn, im assuming shes going to have children sometime. if she has a son hes going to be at least half black and at some point hes probably going to notice that his mom purposely avoided black guys. that will create mixed emotions, especially if she ever tells him to be "proud" of who he is when her actions were contrary to that. same goes for jonna. would their children be "upgrades" because they are half white? or downgrades because they are half black or quarter or whatever jonna is.
also, theres no way she can lie about not being afro. i think its very obvious to most people.
at this point i dont really see jonna winning a challenge. the competition for women just grows every single season and i feel like jonna will keep getting left behind. i see nany, theresa, nia, avery and maybe even jenna having higher chances in upcoming seasons. she did do a good job last night though.
I agree that unless we see a lopsided big team challenge in her favor, Jonna isn't likely to win. From girls still doing the show: Laurel, Rachel, Camila, Emily S, Sarah, Theresa are all decisively better and then you have Nany, Cara, and even promising rookies like Cooke, Nia, or Avery. Competition is slowly getting stiff and tougher again.
Zach is such an average performer. He has not impressed me in any of the eliminations he's been in, or the challenges for that matter. I mean look at him, he should be wiping the floor with everyone there. He reminds me of the NBA players who possess all the physical ability in the world, but turn out to be busts. No idea why people fear facing him. I don't think he'd win any of the eliminations from this season against the good teams.
Eh, i'm so back and forth on that topic dating only certain races. But at the end of the day it comes down to preferences. I don't think it's self-hate if she naturally isn't attracted to black men (and we've never heard that come out of her mouth) but it is when you brag about it and say it to bring black men down as if they're not worth anything (Devyn). You see what i'm saying?
there probably is some uncomfortability with her afro side if shes purposely trying to avoid it. she probably has some ideal man in her mind and thats probably a zach/CJ type.
for devyn, im assuming shes going to have children sometime. if she has a son hes going to be at least half black and at some point hes probably going to notice that his mom purposely avoided black guys. that will create mixed emotions, especially if she ever tells him to be "proud" of who he is when her actions were contrary to that. same goes for jonna. would their children be "upgrades" because they are half white? or downgrades because they are half black or quarter or whatever jonna is.
also, theres no way she can lie about not being afro. i think its very obvious to most people.
at this point i dont really see jonna winning a challenge. the competition for women just grows every single season and i feel like jonna will keep getting left behind. i see nany, theresa, nia, avery and maybe even jenna having higher chances in upcoming seasons. she did do a good job last night though.
I dont get whats the big deal of her dating white guys, she have never being ashamed of her roots the girl is rocking braids and doesn't care that her fans are saying it doesnt look good on her. I have never seen her say she only date white guys unlike Devyn, on other hand once she tweet it that Cory from explosion wad hot.
I never really liked Jonna. I thought she was pathetic on Battle of the Seasons and on the other Challenges, she was never shown much so my opinion never changed. However, after BOTE2 I can say that my opinion of her has completly changed. I'm so proud of her for standing up for herself and for the classy way she exited this Challenge. This was such a great episode for Jonna, I gained a lot of respect for her and I now understand why some of you like her so much! Hopefully she'll be back on the next Challenge and will outlast Zach haha. Go Jonna!
Zach has always reminded me of MJ as a competitor. They are both HUGE but just aren't that great as people expect them to be. I've never thought Zach was that great of a competitor after Seasons. The only reason he won that was because Sweeney basically carried that team politically.
Even Bananas knew Zach was overrated and saved him for the final instead of CT.
I dont get it either.Everyone has a personal preference and a type.
Thats like saying since I am a latina, I am only allow to date latinos...If not I am ashamed of my roots.
a preference isnt the same thing as a deal breaker. even then nobody is saying deal breakers are wrong. i personally dont care but i can see why people might raise their eyebrows on such a notion especailyl if its based on their own race and start to wonder why. people arent really that basic you know...they like to figure things out and wonder why we as humans work, think, behave, act the way we do. were not just a bunch of vegetables
It's her decision and her life.
she can do what she wants and people are allowed to make observations without wanting to govern her life
dont get whats the big deal of her
your assumption is that something must be a big deal if youre talking about it. if we go by that logic then i guess we all have pretty sad lives considering we spend hours many week talking, watcing, stalking people on a reality tv show that litreally do not even know we exist
she tweet it that Cory from explosion wad hot.
anyone can tweet or say anything and it means nothing. when you assess a person you dont look at what they say at face value, you look at how they act + say
-nany says she wants a nice guy like cohutta but then she goes and sleep with a whole bunch of guys that treat her like ****.
-theresa says she doesnt want drama but goes and stirs up all kinds of ***.
besides, jonna said so herself on derricks podcast before that she doesnt do black guys or somethign along those lines in reference to brandon so she confirmed it with her own words + action(dating history).
also i dont know what corys background is but he looks very obviously mixed to me
Zach is who i thought he was. He got lucky to be on the team he was on his first show, where Frank ran politics and he coudl be the tough looking guy with muscles who just intimidated people he knew he could. He has 1 really solid girl too who could run for days and just an overall stacked team by comparison. Than the vets came and he became a completley different character being more of the light hearted goofball with jokes. Than things got tough and he started showing how bad of a sport and person he truly is when things get hard. He has basically been doing that ever since he was dq'ed on rivals 2.
He is a horrible teammate(jonna, sam, etc), a horrible leader(jonna), and not even very good at things he shoudl be good at with his size. He doesn't seem that athletic etiher like i don't see him doing things like showing crazy jumping ability like for instance CT showed on that frog jumping mission on duel 1. I mean i want to see him head to head in something physical with someone close to his size and see how he does, hoenstly i am not even sure abotu his strength or his ability to push himself to another gear. He obviosuly is a big baby, a poor sport, and treats women terribly and like objects. He always was patting himself on the back for making out and hooking up with these girls, but man he truly seems like a guy with serious serious issues.
This edit this season is hilariously over the top. Either he was worse than this and we only see a franction of how bad he was to Jonna, or he only was a **** sometimes and jonna got the feel bad for me edit and he got the bad guy edit. i really think this accurate though how bad he was to jonna. he never seemed the least bit sorry or remorseful for anything he said or did to her this season. We also know he talked tons of **** abotu her behind her back. so that makes it worse really.
If you ever need cheering up Jonna, just watch him cry on the free agents finale and make odd baby noises as soon as things got a litlte hard for him. That seems to be a nice summary of Zach overall too.
Zach has always reminded me of MJ as a competitor. They are both HUGE but just aren't that great as people expect them to be. I've never thought Zach was that great of a competitor after Seasons. The only reason he won that was because Sweeney basically carried that team politically.
Even Bananas knew Zach was overrated and saved him for the final instead of CT.
besides, jonna said so herself on derricks podcast before that she doesnt do black guys or somethign along those lines in reference to brandon so she confirmed it with her own words + action(dating history).
Which Podcast was this? During Battle Of The Seasons?
That's so funny you say that since some people think this is the worst edited season ever. I don't know what to think, I mean it's better than some of the seasons that were completely centered around CT/Bananas/JEK.
lol was this a joke?
well I mean I'm specifically talking about Jonna and Zach's storyline from start to finish as a standalone story, it was stellar imo but as for the other couples I found them super underwhelming. Banany's in particular seemed forced as **** like I don't think anyone was falling for Nanys whole residual feelings for bananas thing. Overall yeah I don't think its been that good but ia with you, certainly better than a CT/Bananas/JEK centric season.
Zach also did mediocre as **** in an elimination he should have beasted.
Yeah it got people talking. Last season I was in love with the Laurel vs Cara Maria frenemy up until their epic elimination round. To me that was the storyline of that season, and this season was Zach vs Jonna. I wish they showed her crying in the mirror like they did in the previews :(.
And I also agree a lot of couples were underwhelming, there was very little bad blood between partners. This season went by pretty fast actually.
Zach must've REALLY ****** off production this season lol.
yaaas I loved the laurel/cara storyline too. Even that random Jessica stuff towards the end lol I was like ***!? I'd never seen her and laurel even talk to each other before that Ep where did that come from?! Or maybe they did idk Jessica scenes are just white noise to me more often than not tbh.
i mean all he did was be himself. I'm sure production is just filled with regular people who aren't absolutely vile.
He hasn't tweeted this season, but he logged in to take MTV ouy of his handle. He also hasn't been active on instagram. I wonder who he will blame? He said he would stand by his words.
I loved how he was muttering under his breath when Sarah was trying to comfort Jonna. Thor was beat by a guy with one hand.
Lol. So it was Zach's fault? Oh my God, I love it. Haha. What were their last words?
i believe it was ashley and frank that took jonna and derek out of bots2. still impressive. ive always liked her since rivals. i was upset Blast Off was chosen for them to go against laurel. they had no chance in that elimination.
Okay I watched the episode, and I've noticed that Jonna is a really good runner and jumper. I remember on past challenges, she was awesome at jumping missions, and she ran the fastest at the body paint one.
Did you see how fast she was moving during this truck mission and the jumps she was making? Girl was killing it!
She did a great job. But of course Zach, being the jerk that he is, still found things to ***** about.
Don't get me started on that rigged ****. They were so wrong for that.. especially since it was new games each round until that round. It made no sense.
HAHAHA Zach is such a baby.
I love the fact that there's a New Orleans jazz band called Swamp Donkeys. I'm sure they got some new fans lately
That was so messed up. BMP knew what they were doing.
if you say that partner cant be black and has to be white then that doesnt mean youre looking for personality. that means youre looking for race .
everyone has preferences but for jonna, devyn, it seems to be a dealbreaker.
there probably is some uncomfortability with her afro side if shes purposely trying to avoid it. she probably has some ideal man in her mind and thats probably a zach/CJ type.
for devyn, im assuming shes going to have children sometime. if she has a son hes going to be at least half black and at some point hes probably going to notice that his mom purposely avoided black guys. that will create mixed emotions, especially if she ever tells him to be "proud" of who he is when her actions were contrary to that. same goes for jonna. would their children be "upgrades" because they are half white? or downgrades because they are half black or quarter or whatever jonna is.
also, theres no way she can lie about not being afro. i think its very obvious to most people.
at this point i dont really see jonna winning a challenge. the competition for women just grows every single season and i feel like jonna will keep getting left behind. i see nany, theresa, nia, avery and maybe even jenna having higher chances in upcoming seasons. she did do a good job last night though.
I agree that unless we see a lopsided big team challenge in her favor, Jonna isn't likely to win. From girls still doing the show: Laurel, Rachel, Camila, Emily S, Sarah, Theresa are all decisively better and then you have Nany, Cara, and even promising rookies like Cooke, Nia, or Avery. Competition is slowly getting stiff and tougher again.
Zach is such an average performer. He has not impressed me in any of the eliminations he's been in, or the challenges for that matter. I mean look at him, he should be wiping the floor with everyone there. He reminds me of the NBA players who possess all the physical ability in the world, but turn out to be busts. No idea why people fear facing him. I don't think he'd win any of the eliminations from this season against the good teams.
I dont get whats the big deal of her dating white guys, she have never being ashamed of her roots the girl is rocking braids and doesn't care that her fans are saying it doesnt look good on her. I have never seen her say she only date white guys unlike Devyn, on other hand once she tweet it that Cory from explosion wad hot.
What's is the actual deal if Jonna only would date white guys. It's her decision and her life.
I dont get it either.Everyone has a personal preference and a type.
Thats like saying since I am a latina, I am only allow to date latinos...If not I am ashamed of my roots.
I never really liked Jonna. I thought she was pathetic on Battle of the Seasons and on the other Challenges, she was never shown much so my opinion never changed. However, after BOTE2 I can say that my opinion of her has completly changed. I'm so proud of her for standing up for herself and for the classy way she exited this Challenge. This was such a great episode for Jonna, I gained a lot of respect for her and I now understand why some of you like her so much! Hopefully she'll be back on the next Challenge and will outlast Zach haha. Go Jonna!
Zach has always reminded me of MJ as a competitor. They are both HUGE but just aren't that great as people expect them to be. I've never thought Zach was that great of a competitor after Seasons. The only reason he won that was because Sweeney basically carried that team politically.
Even Bananas knew Zach was overrated and saved him for the final instead of CT.
a preference isnt the same thing as a deal breaker. even then nobody is saying deal breakers are wrong. i personally dont care but i can see why people might raise their eyebrows on such a notion especailyl if its based on their own race and start to wonder why. people arent really that basic you know...they like to figure things out and wonder why we as humans work, think, behave, act the way we do. were not just a bunch of vegetables
she can do what she wants and people are allowed to make observations without wanting to govern her life
your assumption is that something must be a big deal if youre talking about it. if we go by that logic then i guess we all have pretty sad lives considering we spend hours many week talking, watcing, stalking people on a reality tv show that litreally do not even know we exist
anyone can tweet or say anything and it means nothing. when you assess a person you dont look at what they say at face value, you look at how they act + say
-nany says she wants a nice guy like cohutta but then she goes and sleep with a whole bunch of guys that treat her like ****.
-theresa says she doesnt want drama but goes and stirs up all kinds of ***.
besides, jonna said so herself on derricks podcast before that she doesnt do black guys or somethign along those lines in reference to brandon so she confirmed it with her own words + action(dating history).
also i dont know what corys background is but he looks very obviously mixed to me
Zach is who i thought he was. He got lucky to be on the team he was on his first show, where Frank ran politics and he coudl be the tough looking guy with muscles who just intimidated people he knew he could. He has 1 really solid girl too who could run for days and just an overall stacked team by comparison. Than the vets came and he became a completley different character being more of the light hearted goofball with jokes. Than things got tough and he started showing how bad of a sport and person he truly is when things get hard. He has basically been doing that ever since he was dq'ed on rivals 2.
He is a horrible teammate(jonna, sam, etc), a horrible leader(jonna), and not even very good at things he shoudl be good at with his size. He doesn't seem that athletic etiher like i don't see him doing things like showing crazy jumping ability like for instance CT showed on that frog jumping mission on duel 1. I mean i want to see him head to head in something physical with someone close to his size and see how he does, hoenstly i am not even sure abotu his strength or his ability to push himself to another gear. He obviosuly is a big baby, a poor sport, and treats women terribly and like objects. He always was patting himself on the back for making out and hooking up with these girls, but man he truly seems like a guy with serious serious issues.
This edit this season is hilariously over the top. Either he was worse than this and we only see a franction of how bad he was to Jonna, or he only was a **** sometimes and jonna got the feel bad for me edit and he got the bad guy edit. i really think this accurate though how bad he was to jonna. he never seemed the least bit sorry or remorseful for anything he said or did to her this season. We also know he talked tons of **** abotu her behind her back. so that makes it worse really.
If you ever need cheering up Jonna, just watch him cry on the free agents finale and make odd baby noises as soon as things got a litlte hard for him. That seems to be a nice summary of Zach overall too.
Which Podcast was this? During Battle Of The Seasons?
What kinda Latinos are we talk in about?
*Rubs hands together like Birdman*
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