Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
GRAPHIK YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RIVALS 1? OMG JONNA WAS AMAZING ON THAT SEASON. AND JASMINE WAS AS WELL. I promise you would LOVE them if you watched it. You have to at least watch up until their elimination.
Nah I seen a couple episodes of it but I was done with the show at that point in time & that cast was horrible IMO (except the rookies/Nehemiah). I really don't have any desire to go back & watch it.
Yeah so where exactly IS this Jonna? I didn't care to watch all of Rivals 1 but she did act a lot differently. I hope it wasn't Zach that "took" this away from her.
GRAPHIK YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RIVALS 1? OMG JONNA WAS AMAZING ON THAT SEASON. AND JASMINE WAS AS WELL. I promise you would LOVE them if you watched it. You have to at least watch up until their elimination.
Nah I seen a couple episodes of it but I was done with the show at that point in time & that cast was horrible IMO (except the rookies/Nehemiah). I really don't have any desire to go back & watch it.
I don't blame you. That challenge really was nothing to write home about(Barring a couple moments and the rookies).
That match up was so sad Jonna/Jasmine vs Laurel/Cara Maria ugh. Just thinking about it made makes me annoyed.
Also if Zach/jonna lose this final ex-ile I REALLY hope it's Zach's fault again. I don't want everyone to take back their comments towards Jonna saying that she did great, and that Zach messed up just as much if not more than her. And if it's the final ex-ile, I would think that it's gonna be physical.. and I don't think she'd match up well against Nany in something physical. Zach may or may not beat Bananas but it'll be close. Say if the game was x-battle and Zach won, Jonna lost, and then it was a tie, and Jonna lost again, i'd feel horrible =-[.
Btw do you guys think we'll see the final ex-ile next episode? Or do you think they'll bring in Bananas/Nany (since we saw the final ex-ile will be in the dome) and then show "to be continued" after everyone's reactions? UGH I don't want to wait any longer.
How I'd like to see is, is as TJ is introducing Exile winning couple to the game, they fashback to Zach/Jonna vs BaNany's Ex-ile. And then flash foward and backwards throughing the match to make the entrance dramatic. And right when he introduces them, you see who lost the match and then they show everyone's reactions and etc. Pretty Sweet huh?
How I'd like to see is, is as TJ is introducing Exile winning couple to the game, they fashback to Zach/Jonna vs BaNany's Ex-ile. And then flash foward and backwards throughing the match to make the entrance dramatic. And right when he introduces them, you see who lost the match and then they show everyone's reactions and etc. Pretty Sweet huh?
Eh.. Kind of salty, actually.
Considering the Exile takes place in the Dome, it's pretty obvious they are going to have the castmembers watch the final Exile. I'm happy about this because I want to see everyone's reaction when they find out who won, and also who they are rooting for.
I would much rather see everyone's reaction to seeing Zach and Jonna come back, then Banany come back, and have the twist revealed.
That Of Mice and Men joke was just him trying to be funny and prove that he reads, but most people read that book in school.
The comments that would have hurt me was his saying that he "traded up" and that he would rather go to jail than date her again, etc. That stuff was just mean especially if she never did anything bad to him.
Zach probably tried to make Jonna look crazy and stupid to make himself look good, but in the end he just made himself look like a giant ****** on national television, and she gained more fans than ever for how sweet and patient she came across. Haha!
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I feel like it's half Zach thinking he's being funny and half him being who he is. The fact that all of his exes that we know of from RW/the Challenge think he's a jerk says a lot about him. He calls all of his exes (and even Jenna who he's currently sort of dating) stupid which goes to show the bad edit he received this season isn't very off base. I'm sure it's exaggerated somewhat for entertainment purposes, but his lack of respect for women seems 100% real to me. He's always been very consistent in treating all of his female partners like shit (including Ashley who is actually a decent athlete) and says really awful things about all of his ex-girlfriends. I don't think that's him just playing a character.
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I feel like it's half Zach thinking he's being funny and half him being who he is. The fact that all of his exes that we know of from RW/the Challenge think he's a jerk says a lot about him. He calls all of his exes (and even Jenna who he's currently sort of dating) stupid which goes to show the bad edit he received this season isn't very off base. I'm sure it's exaggerated somewhat for entertainment purposes, but his lack of respect for women seems 100% real to me. He's always been very consistent in treating all of his female partners like shit (including Ashley who is actually a decent athlete) and says really awful things about all of his ex-girlfriends. I don't think that's him just playing a character.
Oh yeah no I didn't mean to make it sound like he's just playing a character and he's not that bad irl or anything, I meant you could stick him with any partner and he'd still be making those comments and he thinks everyone would be like "lol yeah bro!,******* amiright!?" Because he's going to be a ******* anyway. It's probably my Jonna bias I can't see anyone despising her that much, she seems so sweet lol.
i never really followed his life until this season tbh, he always kinda bored me but the girlfriends thing doesn't surprise me. Sorry for asking, I'm sure it's probably been mentioned if it happened, but has NOLA Ashlee commented on him after the breakup?
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I feel like it's half Zach thinking he's being funny and half him being who he is. The fact that all of his exes that we know of from RW/the Challenge think he's a jerk says a lot about him. He calls all of his exes (and even Jenna who he's currently sort of dating) stupid which goes to show the bad edit he received this season isn't very off base. I'm sure it's exaggerated somewhat for entertainment purposes, but his lack of respect for women seems 100% real to me. He's always been very consistent in treating all of his female partners like shit (including Ashley who is actually a decent athlete) and says really awful things about all of his ex-girlfriends. I don't think that's him just playing a character.
Oh yeah no I didn't mean to make it sound like he's just playing a character and he's not that bad irl or anything, I meant you could stick him with any partner and he'd still be making those comments and he thinks everyone would be like "lol yeah bro!,******* amiright!?" Because he's going to be a ******* anyway. It's probably my Jonna bias I can't see anyone despising her that much, she seems so sweet lol.
i never really followed his life until this season tbh, he always kinda bored me but the girlfriends thing doesn't surprise me. Sorry for asking, I'm sure it's probably been mentioned if it happened, but has NOLA Ashlee commented on him after the breakup?
Yeah she said that wasn't the man she knew and lived with. She didn't really say anything bad just saying she didn't agree with what he said this season.. Apparently she can't stand him now so I just think she was holding back on talking shit over the radio.
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I was thinking the same! Zach tries to be the "sarcastic and dry wit" character.
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I was thinking the same! Zach tries to be the "sarcastic and dry wit" character.
right! I have no doubt he's 100% an ******* irl and the way he tries to channel it into being "that guy" like...bro, it's not working. We can still see the straight up toddler/ ****** underneath lol.
But when he's yelling at her to go away like in that one scene after bananas called him out, there's no act there. And Simone said something very telling on one of the Afterbuzz, which is that even when cameras weren't around Zach would cruelly make fun of bad personal things that happened in Jonna's life, and she didn't think it was funny. So bottom line is he is just a ******.
and for those saying why isn't Jonna the girl she was on Rivals, well think about it, she's a tiny girl and when she's got this big guy hulking out at her, you can see that he really intimidates her. That's why in the puzzle mission, she was so scared of Zach getting upset with her, she couldn't focus. She looks scared of him, so that's why it's hard to watch. Even when she tries to stand up to him she still looks intimidated by him.
But when he's yelling at her to go away like in that one scene after bananas called him out, there's no act there. And Simone said something very telling on one of the Afterbuzz, which is that even when cameras weren't around Zach would cruelly make fun of bad personal things that happened in Jonna's life, and she didn't think it was funny. So bottom line is he is just a ******.
and for those saying why isn't Jonna the girl she was on Rivals, well think about it, she's a tiny girl and when she's got this big guy hulking out at her, you can see that he really intimidates her. That's why in the puzzle mission, she was so scared of Zach getting upset with her, she couldn't focus. She looks scared of him, so that's why it's hard to watch. Even when she tries to stand up to him she still looks intimidated by him.
Yeah that shit ****** me off quite frankly. Whether you admit it or not, to an extent that kind of **** is just low-key blaming her for the way he's treating her. His behaviour is completely under his own control, period. If he wants to keep screaming at her/talking over the top of her/ punching things in front of her to intimidate her/ taking rude little jabs at her, he'll just do it regardless of anything she might say or do to stand up for herself.
I'm glad Leroy called Zach out in the confessional on this episode for how he talked to everyone this season (Jonna and others). I haven't seen many of the guys call him out so it was refreshing to see.
Zach is a piece of shit. I offcially hate him and I hope he never retunrs. Jonna busted her *** in this elimination and he STILL BLAMES HER FOR EVERYTHING. He's a **** and he's never going to change. I hope his loser *** never returns.
So basically he's trying to be an even shittier version of Evan/Kenny.
If that's really what he's aiming for he needs to ******* stop it. It's not cute and it's not funny.
MTV/BMP sure knows how to pick 'em...Evan, Kenny, Johnny B., Zach, Jordan. It's like they purposely go out & try to find some of the biggest, most stereotypical & unlikable ******** that little teenage girls, airhead women like Jenna & the ********* fratboys can't get enough of.
So basically he's trying to be an even shittier version of Evan/Kenny.
If that's really what he's aiming for he needs to ******* stop it. It's not cute and it's not funny.
MTV/BMP sure knows how to pick 'em...Evan, Kenny, Johnny B., Zach, Jordan. It's like they purposely go out & try to find some of the biggest, most stereotypical & unlikable ******** that little teenage girls, airhead women like Jenna & the ********* fratboys can't get enough of.
I know right? Can't they cast someone who's actually likable? Someone who's actually funny and rootable? Just once?
Nah I seen a couple episodes of it but I was done with the show at that point in time & that cast was horrible IMO (except the rookies/Nehemiah). I really don't have any desire to go back & watch it.
I don't blame you. That challenge really was nothing to write home about(Barring a couple moments and the rookies).
i would love to see jonna in a physical match up again jillian and maybe even kina
That match up was so sad
Jonna/Jasmine vs Laurel/Cara Maria ugh. Just thinking about it made makes me annoyed.
Also if Zach/jonna lose this final ex-ile I REALLY hope it's Zach's fault again. I don't want everyone to take back their comments towards Jonna saying that she did great, and that Zach messed up just as much if not more than her. And if it's the final ex-ile, I would think that it's gonna be physical.. and I don't think she'd match up well against Nany in something physical. Zach may or may not beat Bananas but it'll be close. Say if the game was x-battle and Zach won, Jonna lost, and then it was a tie, and Jonna lost again, i'd feel horrible =-[.
Btw do you guys think we'll see the final ex-ile next episode? Or do you think they'll bring in Bananas/Nany (since we saw the final ex-ile will be in the dome) and then show "to be continued" after everyone's reactions? UGH I don't want to wait any longer.
How I'd like to see is, is as TJ is introducing Exile winning couple to the game, they fashback to Zach/Jonna vs BaNany's Ex-ile. And then flash foward and backwards throughing the match to make the entrance dramatic. And right when he introduces them, you see who lost the match and then they show everyone's reactions and etc. Pretty Sweet huh?
Eh.. Kind of salty, actually.
Considering the Exile takes place in the Dome, it's pretty obvious they are going to have the castmembers watch the final Exile. I'm happy about this because I want to see everyone's reaction when they find out who won, and also who they are rooting for.
I would much rather see everyone's reaction to seeing Zach and Jonna come back, then Banany come back, and have the twist revealed.
http://www.mtv.com/news/2093648/challenge-zach-jonna-arguments/
Poor Jonna. Love her though. #TeamJonna
http://www.mtv.com/news/2093648/challenge-zach-jonna-arguments/
That Of Mice and Men joke was just him trying to be funny and prove that he reads, but most people read that book in school.
The comments that would have hurt me was his saying that he "traded up" and that he would rather go to jail than date her again, etc. That stuff was just mean especially if she never did anything bad to him.
Zach probably tried to make Jonna look crazy and stupid to make himself look good, but in the end he just made himself look like a giant ****** on national television, and she gained more fans than ever for how sweet and patient she came across. Haha!
I also would have been hurt when he said Jonna was homeless and he just starts laughing in the interview..
zach seems repulsed by jonna in every single way...physically(ass comment in trivia/preference to kissing toilet seat), emotionally, mentally, competitively....
disturbing how someone can go from caring about someone so much to hating them especailly without any real provocation from jonna to warrant those negative feelings. zachs emotions seem very unstable...like a firecracker. from love to hate in one breath..scary...
tbh I think 90% of all of those things he said was him just trying to be like ~the sarcastic smart guy who is mean but you can't help but laugh cuz he's so funny!!~ and, obviously, he just ******* flopped because he can't actually pull off any of those things properly ****...
Im sure his anger at her was completely real but I mean his lack of self awareness/ blame-y way of life was always going to ensure that, imo.
I feel like it's half Zach thinking he's being funny and half him being who he is. The fact that all of his exes that we know of from RW/the Challenge think he's a jerk says a lot about him. He calls all of his exes (and even Jenna who he's currently sort of dating) stupid which goes to show the bad edit he received this season isn't very off base. I'm sure it's exaggerated somewhat for entertainment purposes, but his lack of respect for women seems 100% real to me. He's always been very consistent in treating all of his female partners like shit (including Ashley who is actually a decent athlete) and says really awful things about all of his ex-girlfriends. I don't think that's him just playing a character.
I don't think he is playing a character at all either. He genuiely despises Jonna and there is real no reason behind it.
Oh yeah no I didn't mean to make it sound like he's just playing a character and he's not that bad irl or anything, I meant you could stick him with any partner and he'd still be making those comments and he thinks everyone would be like "lol yeah bro!,******* amiright!?" Because he's going to be a ******* anyway. It's probably my Jonna bias I can't see anyone despising her that much, she seems so sweet lol.
i never really followed his life until this season tbh, he always kinda bored me but the girlfriends thing doesn't surprise me. Sorry for asking, I'm sure it's probably been mentioned if it happened, but has NOLA Ashlee commented on him after the breakup?
Yeah she said that wasn't the man she knew and lived with. She didn't really say anything bad just saying she didn't agree with what he said this season.. Apparently she can't stand him now so I just think she was holding back on talking shit over the radio.
I was thinking the same! Zach tries to be the "sarcastic and dry wit" character.
right! I have no doubt he's 100% an ******* irl and the way he tries to channel it into being "that guy" like...bro, it's not working. We can still see the straight up toddler/ ****** underneath lol.
So basically he's trying to be an even shittier version of Evan/Kenny.
If that's really what he's aiming for he needs to ******* stop it. It's not cute and it's not funny.
But when he's yelling at her to go away like in that one scene after bananas called him out, there's no act there. And Simone said something very telling on one of the Afterbuzz, which is that even when cameras weren't around Zach would cruelly make fun of bad personal things that happened in Jonna's life, and she didn't think it was funny. So bottom line is he is just a ******.
and for those saying why isn't Jonna the girl she was on Rivals, well think about it, she's a tiny girl and when she's got this big guy hulking out at her, you can see that he really intimidates her. That's why in the puzzle mission, she was so scared of Zach getting upset with her, she couldn't focus. She looks scared of him, so that's why it's hard to watch. Even when she tries to stand up to him she still looks intimidated by him.
Yeah that shit ****** me off quite frankly. Whether you admit it or not, to an extent that kind of **** is just low-key blaming her for the way he's treating her. His behaviour is completely under his own control, period. If he wants to keep screaming at her/talking over the top of her/ punching things in front of her to intimidate her/ taking rude little jabs at her, he'll just do it regardless of anything she might say or do to stand up for herself.
I love Jonna and she was so good this season! I hope they never bring Zach back.
I hope Zach comes back. He was made for these Challenges.
You guys can't seriously pick some boring ******* like Brandon or Chet over Zach.
I'm glad Leroy called Zach out in the confessional on this episode for how he talked to everyone this season (Jonna and others). I haven't seen many of the guys call him out so it was refreshing to see.
Zach is a piece of shit. I offcially hate him and I hope he never retunrs. Jonna busted her *** in this elimination and he STILL BLAMES HER FOR EVERYTHING. He's a **** and he's never going to change. I hope his loser *** never returns.
MTV/BMP sure knows how to pick 'em...Evan, Kenny, Johnny B., Zach, Jordan. It's like they purposely go out & try to find some of the biggest, most stereotypical & unlikable ******** that little teenage girls, airhead women like Jenna & the ********* fratboys can't get enough of.
It's all been said already how Zach is a sack of shit and Jonna was great this season, but these two definitely had the best storyline this season.
I know right? Can't they cast someone who's actually likable? Someone who's actually funny and rootable? Just once?
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