I'm glad Leroy called Zach out in the confessional on this episode for how he talked to everyone this season (Jonna and others). I haven't seen many of the guys call him out so it was refreshing to see.
Yeah i was surprised a dude said anything about it at all, but also not surprised it was leroy. Of all the men in there, despite his cheating, he's the one that strikes me as a man who genuinely doesn't see women in the same ~inferior~ Light as the others.
I'm still laughing about him getting heated in the Dome and referring to Avery as 'that *****' then immediately excusing himself and apologising to her lol. He just seems like a cool (if bro-ish) dude overall.
Zach is a piece of shit. I offcially hate him and I hope he never retunrs. Jonna busted her *** in this elimination and he STILL BLAMES HER FOR EVERYTHING. He's a **** and he's never going to change. I hope his loser *** never returns.
I officially hate him more than any challenge guy ever. I'm so glad they got eliminated because I couldn't take much more of him. That girl fell hard, and she got right back up and continued to work her *** off, and she was the only reason they were as close to winning as they were and he still finds a way to blame her and refer to working with her as a nightmare.
These dumb girls might still watch the show and gush over him just because of his looks, but he is ugly to me. An ugly person, so every part of him is ugly to me.
I have so much respect for Jonna for handling that giant **** with cl***, grace, and patience. Hope she watches these episodes and realized she dodged a bullet.
So basically he's trying to be an even shittier version of Evan/Kenny.
If that's really what he's aiming for he needs to ******* stop it. It's not cute and it's not funny.
MTV/BMP sure knows how to pick 'em...Evan, Kenny, Johnny B., Zach, Jordan. It's like they purposely go out & try to find some of the biggest, most stereotypical & unlikable ******** that little teenage girls, airhead women like Jenna & the ********* fratboys can't get enough of.
I know right? Can't they cast someone who's actually likable? Someone who's actually funny and rootable? Just once?
I mean Brandon/Leroy/Nehemiah have always been cool on the challenges but Leroy is Leroy (as we saw tonight), Brandon always gets the short end of the stick & they've pretty much forgotten about Nehemiah. Also others like Darrell, Frank R., Landon, etc. but they just love the ********.
Then there's this other dipshit named Bruno, who is already begging for an ass-whooping but is inevitably going to do a few shows. Then Cory, who is cool sometimes but can become a raging ******* at a moment's notice.
I mean they have Cohutta, but he doesn't ahve the alpha male personality to carry or really be a strong force in the show I guess. I would say Darrell/Landon are the closest we're gonna get to that.
I hope Zach come back and I hope everyone treats him like he has the plague.
That would be the only thing that would make seeing his stupid *** again tolerable lol.
Idk I already feel like I'm going to be really disappointed at the reunion, regardless of the spoilers tbh. I don't think anyone's going to really say what needs to be said or if they do he'll either be completely disingenuous about it or an even bigger ******** so whatever man lol
I hope Zach come back and I hope everyone treats him like he has the plague.
That would be the only thing that would make seeing his stupid *** again tolerable lol.
Idk I already feel like I'm going to be really disappointed at the reunion, regardless of the spoilers tbh. I don't think anyone's going to really say what needs to be said or if they do he'll either be completely disingenuous about it or an even bigger so whatever man lol
That better not be the case. Zach's cruelty towards Jonna and his overall lack of respect towards women was such a huge focus this season that it would be like a giant elephant in the room if they choose to ignore it at the reunion. After that episode where he called women "swamp donkeys" Zach also received tons of criticism from female Challengers. It will definitely be addressed, but Zach's response probably won't satisfy anybody. He seems quite content in playing the blame Jonna game so I doubt he'll feel like he has anything to apologize for at the reunion.
I mean most of the men in the golden era were very chill & didn't act like big children, like Dan Setzler, Timmy, Theo G. & V., etc.
Even the wild ones like Abe & Derrick were still pretty cool. There was CT & Adam L., but the latter still doesn't even compare.
yeah I would take everyone before fresh meat over everyone after it and I'm not even one of those "Fresh Meat should have never happened they aren't the REAL cast!!" People. It really was downhill from there as far as the dudes where concerned with only a couple of exceptions.
Like, fair enough, you absolutely shouldn't take reality tv shows super seriously but ****, as a woman there's only so much misogyny I can stand to watch lol! it shouldn't be celebrated and showcased like its just ~fun tv drama~.
I hope Zach come back and I hope everyone treats him like he has the plague.
That would be the only thing that would make seeing his stupid *** again tolerable lol.
Idk I already feel like I'm going to be really disappointed at the reunion, regardless of the spoilers tbh. I don't think anyone's going to really say what needs to be said or if they do he'll either be completely disingenuous about it or an even bigger so whatever man lol
That better not be the case. Zach's cruelty towards Jonna and his overall lack of respect towards women w***uch a huge focus this season that it would be like a giant elephant in the room if they choose to ignore it at the reunion. After that episode where he called women "swamp donkeys" Zach also received tons of criticism from female Challengers. It will definitely be addressed, but Zach's response probably won't satisfy anybody. He seems quite content in playing the blame Jonna game so I doubt he'll feel like he has anything to apologize for at the reunion.
oh yeah I'm sure it'll be addressed but not in the way I would prefer which is just someone standing over him and reading his *** to Kingdom come, completely uninterrupted with just a long laundry list of his shortcomings :p.
I'm just picturing it being brought up then someone yelling at him for a second, him being like "yes I'm sorry if I offended anyone I had a bad breakup but I love my mom and my sister and my dog I don't really feel that way about girls tho!!!" And then it being brushed over for the next thing. I just know I won't be satisfied whatever happens. Prove me wrong, show!
I hope Zach come back and I hope everyone treats him like he has the plague.
That would be the only thing that would make seeing his stupid *** again tolerable lol.
Idk I already feel like I'm going to be really disappointed at the reunion, regardless of the spoilers tbh. I don't think anyone's going to really say what needs to be said or if they do he'll either be completely disingenuous about it or an even bigger ******** so whatever man lol
You know Zach. He thinks back acknowledging his immaturity makes it okay. That's how he waved off how he acted on the Free Agents finale.
Poor Jonna losing in that game twice. When she fell from the top it made my head hurt, she looked a little dazed for a second. I'm so proud of her. And the fact that Zach didn't yell at her to hurry up at least meant that she was keeping up the entire time. She's the little engine that could but really couldn't :(.
So basically he's trying to be an even shittier version of Evan/Kenny.
If that's really what he's aiming for he needs to ******* stop it. It's not cute and it's not funny.
MTV/BMP sure knows how to pick 'em...Evan, Kenny, Johnny B., Zach, Jordan. It's like they purposely go out & try to find some of the biggest, most stereotypical & unlikable ******** that little teenage girls, airhead women like Jenna & the ********* fratboys can't get enough of.
Not disagreeing with you. Just to add though, you can say the same about the girls. They find the loudest trashiest craziest females (Robin, Tonya, Katie, Coral, Paula, Jasmine, Nia, Nany) and expect people to respect them. I can't necessarily blame the ********* guys for not having respect for them and at the same time can't blame the trashy women to respect the *********s. So it's a lose-lose situation but it all makes for good TV and discussion.
Jonna did so well last night! Like Theresa said, she was a little spider monkey! Really hoping she makes it to the end on her next challenge.
As for disrespecting women.... Almost all of the guys on this season have been trash. I actually think Wes, whom I hate, has behaved himself really well. He really hasn't said anything too horrible about Theresa (although he has made a few sexist comments because of course)
Jonna did so well last night! Like Theresa said, she was a little spider monkey! Really hoping she makes it to the end on her next challenge.
As for disrespecting women.... Almost all of the guys on this season have been trash. I actually think Wes, whom I hate, has behaved himself really well. He really hasn't said anything too horrible about Theresa (although he has made a few sexist comments because of course)
From the teams left Jay is the one that he have treat his partner with a lot of respect and to some extend Leroy.
Hasn't Bananas treated Nany pretty good? I don't recall Wes shitting on Theresa or anything either, maybe I'm forgetting something though.
Yeah, Bananas has been less sexist than mildly racist with his comments to Nany about cleaning the house and eating tacos. Wes and Jay have probably been the two most supportive partners this season (aside from CT, of course)
Jonna did so well last night! Like Theresa said, she was a little spider monkey! Really hoping she makes it to the end on her next challenge.
As for disrespecting women.... Almost all of the guys on this season have been trash. I actually think Wes, whom I hate, has behaved himself really well. He really hasn't said anything too horrible about Theresa (although he has made a few sexist comments because of course)
From the teams left Jay is the one that he have treat his partner with a lot of respect and to some extend Leroy.
I'm glad Leroy called Zach out in the confessional on this episode for how he talked to everyone this season (Jonna and others). I haven't seen many of the guys call him out so it was refreshing to see.
Amen.
I can't believe Zach had the audacity to blame Jonna.. It was so clear she knew exactly what she was doing and everyone noticed. **** Zach. I've never been more disgusted with someone from these shows than him.
The fact that Jenna is still with Zach shows what an idiot she is... He is worse than Jay.
Who's to say Jonna wouldn't still be with him if he hadn't dumped her? I'm sorry, but the hate Ashley is getting in this thread is actually ridiculous and so wrong! She was the only girl that actually saw Zach for who he is and dumped his sorry ***. Jonna worshipped him and now she's frustrated because he doesn't treat her well anymore! Well, she should've known better!
I actually felt a little bit sorry for Jonna this season, but I don't anymore. The stuff people here are saying about Ashley makes me think Jonna deserved everything she got this season because it reminded me of Jonna throwing her and Zach's relashionship in Ashley's face in Battle of the Seasons. Karma. I'm back to not liking Jonna.
Yeah i was surprised a dude said anything about it at all, but also not surprised it was leroy. Of all the men in there, despite his cheating, he's the one that strikes me as a man who genuinely doesn't see women in the same ~inferior~ Light as the others.
I'm still laughing about him getting heated in the Dome and referring to Avery as 'that *****' then immediately excusing himself and apologising to her lol. He just seems like a cool (if bro-ish) dude overall.
I officially hate him more than any challenge guy ever. I'm so glad they got eliminated because I couldn't take much more of him. That girl fell hard, and she got right back up and continued to work her *** off, and she was the only reason they were as close to winning as they were and he still finds a way to blame her and refer to working with her as a nightmare.
These dumb girls might still watch the show and gush over him just because of his looks, but he is ugly to me. An ugly person, so every part of him is ugly to me.
I have so much respect for Jonna for handling that giant **** with cl***, grace, and patience. Hope she watches these episodes and realized she dodged a bullet.
I mean Brandon/Leroy/Nehemiah have always been cool on the challenges but Leroy is Leroy (as we saw tonight), Brandon always gets the short end of the stick & they've pretty much forgotten about Nehemiah. Also others like Darrell, Frank R., Landon, etc. but they just love the ********.
Then there's this other dipshit named Bruno, who is already begging for an ass-whooping but is inevitably going to do a few shows. Then Cory, who is cool sometimes but can become a raging ******* at a moment's notice.
I mean they have Cohutta, but he doesn't ahve the alpha male personality to carry or really be a strong force in the show I guess. I would say Darrell/Landon are the closest we're gonna get to that.
I hope Zach come back and I hope everyone treats him like he has the plague.
I mean most of the men in the golden era were very chill & didn't act like big children, like Dan Setzler, Timmy, Theo G. & V., etc.
Even the wild ones like Abe & Derrick were still pretty cool. There was CT & Adam L., but the latter still doesn't even compare.
That would be the only thing that would make seeing his stupid *** again tolerable lol.
Idk I already feel like I'm going to be really disappointed at the reunion, regardless of the spoilers tbh. I don't think anyone's going to really say what needs to be said or if they do he'll either be completely disingenuous about it or an even bigger ******** so whatever man lol
That better not be the case. Zach's cruelty towards Jonna and his overall lack of respect towards women was such a huge focus this season that it would be like a giant elephant in the room if they choose to ignore it at the reunion. After that episode where he called women "swamp donkeys" Zach also received tons of criticism from female Challengers. It will definitely be addressed, but Zach's response probably won't satisfy anybody. He seems quite content in playing the blame Jonna game so I doubt he'll feel like he has anything to apologize for at the reunion.
I mean most of the men in the golden era were very chill & didn't act like big children, like Dan Setzler, Timmy, Theo G. & V., etc.
Even the wild ones like Abe & Derrick were still pretty cool. There was CT & Adam L., but the latter still doesn't even compare.
yeah I would take everyone before fresh meat over everyone after it and I'm not even one of those "Fresh Meat should have never happened they aren't the REAL cast!!" People. It really was downhill from there as far as the dudes where concerned with only a couple of exceptions.
Like, fair enough, you absolutely shouldn't take reality tv shows super seriously but ****, as a woman there's only so much misogyny I can stand to watch lol! it shouldn't be celebrated and showcased like its just ~fun tv drama~.
oh yeah I'm sure it'll be addressed but not in the way I would prefer which is just someone standing over him and reading his *** to Kingdom come, completely uninterrupted with just a long laundry list of his shortcomings :p.
I'm just picturing it being brought up then someone yelling at him for a second, him being like "yes I'm sorry if I offended anyone I had a bad breakup but I love my mom and my sister and my dog I don't really feel that way about girls tho!!!" And then it being brushed over for the next thing. I just know I won't be satisfied whatever happens. Prove me wrong, show!
You know Zach. He thinks back acknowledging his immaturity makes it okay. That's how he waved off how he acted on the Free Agents finale.
Poor Jonna losing in that game twice. When she fell from the top it made my head hurt, she looked a little dazed for a second. I'm so proud of her. And the fact that Zach didn't yell at her to hurry up at least meant that she was keeping up the entire time. She's the little engine that could but really couldn't :(.
Oh and is it bad that I don't like Jenna now just because she posted a picture with Zach in the mirror tonight?
Have some self respect.. especially since she's friends with Jonna.
Jenna isn't the brightest around. I think its like someone said, she probably thinks she is the exception to what he says about women.
Not disagreeing with you. Just to add though, you can say the same about the girls. They find the loudest trashiest craziest females (Robin, Tonya, Katie, Coral, Paula, Jasmine, Nia, Nany) and expect people to respect them. I can't necessarily blame the ********* guys for not having respect for them and at the same time can't blame the trashy women to respect the *********s. So it's a lose-lose situation but it all makes for good TV and discussion.
Difference is those girls for the most part made GOOD tv while Zach this season was just awful, JEK hardly had any opposition to play against.
Jonna did so well last night! Like Theresa said, she was a little spider monkey! Really hoping she makes it to the end on her next challenge.
As for disrespecting women.... Almost all of the guys on this season have been trash. I actually think Wes, whom I hate, has behaved himself really well. He really hasn't said anything too horrible about Theresa (although he has made a few sexist comments because of course)
From the teams left Jay is the one that he have treat his partner with a lot of respect and to some extend Leroy.
Hasn't Bananas treated Nany pretty good? I don't recall Wes shitting on Theresa or anything either, maybe I'm forgetting something though.
I actually want to see Zach on one more challenge so that he can clean up his act and redeem himself.
Yeah, Bananas has been less sexist than mildly racist with his comments to Nany about cleaning the house and eating tacos. Wes and Jay have probably been the two most supportive partners this season (aside from CT, of course)
Wes and Bananas have treated their partners fine.
Amen.
I can't believe Zach had the audacity to blame Jonna.. It was so clear she knew exactly what she was doing and everyone noticed. **** Zach. I've never been more disgusted with someone from these shows than him.
This is the first season I see Jonna trending worldwide on twitter in 3/9 episodes she appear on.
I am glad she show up on this last 2 epusodes, while zach was an idiot from start to end.
I am the only one that thinks that this team was one of the most dysfuctional from both exes
I would say one of the most dysfuncational pairs we've ever seen imo.
Who's to say Jonna wouldn't still be with him if he hadn't dumped her? I'm sorry, but the hate Ashley is getting in this thread is actually ridiculous and so wrong! She was the only girl that actually saw Zach for who he is and dumped his sorry ***. Jonna worshipped him and now she's frustrated because he doesn't treat her well anymore! Well, she should've known better!
I actually felt a little bit sorry for Jonna this season, but I don't anymore. The stuff people here are saying about Ashley makes me think Jonna deserved everything she got this season because it reminded me of Jonna throwing her and Zach's relashionship in Ashley's face in Battle of the Seasons. Karma. I'm back to not liking Jonna.
Next challenge it should be #WeHateZachClub instead of Nany.
Yeah at least then there will be an actual reason for hating someone.
So true.
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