The Challenge: Battle of the Bloodlines Discussion (SPOILERS)

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No matter how many people pick pick a side re: Jay/Jenna, or take no side beliving the Challenge should be pure, the wall between the Challenge and all other MTV programming has been permanently broken.  You're probably going to see some people from AYTO on the next challenge.  It's an unreasonable expectation to believe that MTV would  realize or admit to any error in casting from AYTO.  We'll just have to live with it, as some had to live with Fresh Meat and Spring Break. 

 

I don't see what the big fuss is about? You guys act like AYTO Cast are a different race than Real World cast. They all act like the typical people we see on reality television, I barely see a difference between the AYTO castmember and any rookie Real world castmember. In fact to me it seemed like the vets got along with JJ and Simone/Adam and Brittany alot more than they got along with Tom/Hailey or Jay/Jenna.

 

Plus we got Diem, kenny, evan, evelyn, camila, and much more from fresh meat/spring break so... what's your argument with that... In fact those are some of the most famous cast members to ever be on the show why even bring up fresh meat and spring break.

Suddenly, I'm not allowed to dislike something on my TV screen, and then vent it out here like everyone else.

Amazing.

I support your opportunity to express your dislike and will read your venting.  Whether or not I agree with you is irrelevant.

I understand you may or may not agree with me, that's just how people/conversations work.

I just don't need the constant "it's going to happen, shut up about it" from everyone and anyone. Whether or not it happens, I'm still going to dislike the idea.

Preach.

I wonder if Abram may get cast for the next one since the chances of Cara Maria look slim based on the above information? Seems like I read somewhere he wanted to do another one but without Cara. I am not entirely sure where I read that and do not know if it is accurate.

He said that? That's weird considering they're still together...idk why it has to be either/or. I WANT THEM BOTH.

Abe's a weird dude lol. Gotta love him but he is out there. but  I just don't think he likes dealing with her while he is competing.

I also find it weird he has never seen an episode of the challenge. I remember CM said she would try to tell him the shit she did on the challenge and he would be like I don't care, I don't want to hear about it. Haha

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 


I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol.
Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.

Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

NO ANYTHING BUT PAIRS

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

I wonder if Abram may get cast for the next one since the chances of Cara Maria look slim based on the above information? Seems like I read somewhere he wanted to do another one but without Cara. I am not entirely sure where I read that and do not know if it is accurate.

He said that? That's weird considering they're still together...idk why it has to be either/or. I WANT THEM BOTH.

They are together , thats the reason that they wouldnt want to do together again. They experience Exes as a couple and things went spur between them during that challenge. A challenge enviroment is toxic and it brings the worse out of certain people. It can do more harm than good to someone personal relationship like it has proven with Abe/Cara Maria and Cara Maria/Laurel on free agents.

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Right. Can we all be the producers lol we would save this show from getting cancelled. 

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Right. Can we all be the producers lol we would save this show from getting cancelled. 

Well, some will sink it more lol

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Agreed. BMP needs to start reading our fanasty casts. lol

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Right. Can we all be the producers lol we would save this show from getting cancelled. 

Well, some will sink it more lol

LOL

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

THIS!

Agreed. BMP needs to start reading our fanasty casts. lol

Maybe they did? Lol

My Top 3 formats I hope they use in the future:

Battle of the Seasons 3

There are a lot of strong/entertaining new school competitors and I want to see some more St. Thomas/Ex-Plosion/Skeletons representation. The Las Vegas and Portland casts have been great on the challenges. This would be the perfect time for them to do this. 

Old School vs. New School

This should've happened after Battle of the Seasons 2 instead of the lame overly stretched pairings on Rivals II. It's never too late to use this format. The Gauntlet 2 was amazing and I can see this season being entertaining as well. 

The Duel 3

We need to see this format come back. I want to see the best competitors return, along with a bunch of new school players. 

 

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

Bring back big teams, and bring back Cooke **** it. Tired of pairs. Tired of not having Cooke on the challenge.

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.

Also PR posted a fantasy cast that included a Redemption team which was kinda suspicious. I may be looking too much into it though. 

I did a redemption cast and I have zero sources lol. Pink rose has also posted something like that before if I'm not mistaken.
Lol youre right...that was just a fantasy on my part.

Tbh I wouldn't mind something like that at all. 

Me either lol with the right cast it would be great, but sometimes I feel like we do better casting and themes on the fantasy thread than BMP do in real life.


Lol I think it would be great tho we probably wouldn't be able to get the people we want

So there's no evidence to speculate Ashli just wishful thinking for some?

I wonder if Abram may get cast for the next one since the chances of Cara Maria look slim based on the above information? Seems like I read somewhere he wanted to do another one but without Cara. I am not entirely sure where I read that and do not know if it is accurate.

He said that? That's weird considering they're still together...idk why it has to be either/or. I WANT THEM BOTH.

They are together , thats the reason that they wouldnt want to do together again. They experience Exes as a couple and things went spur between them during that challenge. A challenge enviroment is toxic and it brings the worse out of certain people. It can do more harm than good to someone personal relationship like it has proven with Abe/Cara Maria and Cara Maria/Laurel on free agents.


It can also work good for them given the right format. Look at Cutthroat with Brad and Tori. Minimum arguments.

Be positive guys if it is pairs it'd be sick if they did the picking of the teams cutthroat style

Regarding the whole speculation of the potential "redemption" theme.. wouldn't that be kind of stretching it across a wide variety of what you need to redeem yourself for? I guess what I'm trying to say is that you have someone like maybe Ashli who was injured and sent home early but then you also have kids from the skeleton cast (who have a good chance of being on the next challenge) like Sylvia who would be like "I have to redeem myself because I almost killed one of my roommates."

Regarding the whole speculation of the potential "redemption" theme.. wouldn't that be kind of stretching it across a wide variety of what you need to redeem yourself for? I guess what I'm trying to say is that you have someone like maybe Ashli who was injured and sent home early but then you also have kids from the skeleton cast (who have a good chance of being on the next challenge) like Sylvia who would be like "I have to redeem myself because I almost killed one of my roommates."

I was thinking something along those lines

I wonder if Abram may get cast for the next one since the chances of Cara Maria look slim based on the above information? Seems like I read somewhere he wanted to do another one but without Cara. I am not entirely sure where I read that and do not know if it is accurate.

He said that? That's weird considering they're still together...idk why it has to be either/or. I WANT THEM BOTH.

They don't want to do one together.  They have their reasons .  

i think if they did cutthroat 2 with the right cast it wouldbe amazing but unfortunately were probably never going to see that format again, maybe if they did a gauntlet with the rookies having people such as Ashli, Cooke, Violetta, Tony, Marie, and Cory, it could be interesting

The thing I like about the Duel theme is that whoever goes in gets to pick who they want so unless you win you are not safe from elimination which would be interesting in today's challenges with the really big power houses. I also liked the Gauntlet format because it was a secret vote so you cannot 100% ride the band wagon vote which is also nice. 

i just hope whatver format it is, they wont do streched pairs. so many streched pairs over the pastits ridiculous. Nate and Priscilla, Bananas and camila,Banans and nany, Jasmine and Tyrie, Tyrie and Dunbar, Leroy and ty, Aneesa and Diem(theytalked as friends on challenges after the duel) i even think Ev and Paula were streched so paula could finally get her first win and shut the **** up.   

i just hope whatver format it is, they wont do streched pairs. so many streched pairs over the pastits ridiculous. Nate and Priscilla, Bananas and camila,Banans and nany, Jasmine and Tyrie, Tyrie and Dunbar, Leroy and ty, Aneesa and Diem(theytalked as friends on challenges after the duel) i even think Ev and Paula were streched so paula could finally get her first win and shut the **** up.   

I agree but after some time I think they put them with someone who they have a good chance of winning with like Rivals 2 when they put CT with Wes making CT have a really good chance. I think Theresa was also put with Wes this season to increase her chances of the final. 

i just hope whatver format it is, they wont do streched pairs. so many streched pairs over the pastits ridiculous. Nate and Priscilla, Bananas and camila,Banans and nany, Jasmine and Tyrie, Tyrie and Dunbar, Leroy and ty, Aneesa and Diem(theytalked as friends on challenges after the duel) i even think Ev and Paula were streched so paula could finally get her first win and shut the **** up.   

I agree but after some time I think they put them with someone who they have a good chance of winning with like Rivals 2 when they put CT with Wes making CT have a really good chance. I think Theresa was also put with Wes this season to increase her chances of the final. 

Theresa was put with wes because Kellyane declined lol

i just hope whatver format it is, they wont do streched pairs. so many streched pairs over the pastits ridiculous. Nate and Priscilla, Bananas and camila,Banans and nany, Jasmine and Tyrie, Tyrie and Dunbar, Leroy and ty, Aneesa and Diem(theytalked as friends on challenges after the duel) i even think Ev and Paula were streched so paula could finally get her first win and shut the **** up.   

I agree but after some time I think they put them with someone who they have a good chance of winning with like Rivals 2 when they put CT with Wes making CT have a really good chance. I think Theresa was also put with Wes this season to increase her chances of the final. 

Theresa was put with wes because Kellyane declined lol

Do you know why Kellyanne declined? Did she just not want to work with Wes?

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