I think what's difficult about this case is that, had it gone to trial, I would believe the verdict either way. Could I believe that Kenny and Evan did something EXCEPTIONALLY stupid and disgusting and too far over the line? Yeah. Could I believe that this was a manufactured money-grab by someone who was mentally unwell? Also yeah.
Most cases are settled out of court. Many of those cases may have had very little evidence on the part of the plaintiff, but they are settled because lawsuits are expensive. In a case like this the party that loses is responsible for all the court costs of both sides, but a case could incur court costs of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. Say Tonya lost. There is no way that she could pay the court costs for MTV/BMP and they would still be on the hook for them. I don't know how much the settlement was for but it was probably a small price to pay in comparison to lawyer fees and court costs that they would not have been reimbursed for even after winning. In fact, rather than making me think Kenny and Evan were guilty, I would say that the case being settled makes it seem like Tonya did not have enough evidence to prove her case. It is my understanding that MTV/BMP were at the helm of the legal decisions in the case (although I am not sure). Kenny and Evan may have wanted to fight it out to clear their names, but any corporate lawyer worth her salt would point out exactly what I stated above, namely that the case would be expensive for them win or lose. MTV/BMP had an equal amount of incentive to settle regardless of whether or not they had enough evidence to win their case. On the other hand, Tonya had more incentive to not settle if she was confident that she would win, but clearly her legal team was not confident so they settled. I don't know the truth about this case. I guess this is just a long-winded way to say that the fact that a case was settled should never be taken as "proof" the respondent was in the wrong.
I believe that Kenny/Evan did it based on the 2 castmembers who went to Tonya and told her about it, plus there were a few others that thought something had gone on.
Ugh. He sounds like a complete *******. The way they tormented Tonya was sickening. I'm not surprised he defends those two ******** like they're God's gift to planet Earth. So glad they left the show in shame.
People still believing false accusations? Accusations with no physical evidence, just "she-said he-said"? Accusations like the ones that caused Brian Banks to lose his NFL career because some ***** lied that he raped her? Well Hillary is also the democratic nominee so I'm not surprised at society.
I believe that Kenny/Evan did it based on the 2 castmembers who went to Tonya and told her about it, plus there were a few others that thought something had gone on.
Not gonna lie i miss the JEK Dynasty however i do acknowledge that they made most challenges predictable but what can i say i really enjoyed to see them owning everything at some point and i always wanted the underdogs under their dynasty to pull up a win(e.g:Landon) but if they are really guilty well i think its for the best.
None of us know the truth not even Tonya because she was passed out but like some people said i could see Kenny and Evan being able to do this shit and i could also see Tonya lying about it, and its just weird that she managed to get this far with second-hand allegations.
I think someone mentioned at some point that Kim (RW: Hollywood) was the one who told Tonya what happened to her the morning after. To be honest, though, I can't see cast members like Susie and Sarah still hanging out with Kenny if he was involved. That said, knowing and not doing anything to stop it is just as bad, which I feel like he did. The only guilty ones in this situation are the producers who let this happen. Tonya was allegedly sexually assaulted by two male cast members, yet both of them appeared on a challenge after the fact? Something doesn't add up.
JL81790 hit the nail on the head. I can see Kenny and Evan doing something like this thinking it's okay because it's for 'entertainment' purposes ... but ... I can also see Tonya grasping for straws at such a low point in her life. She wasn't mentally ready at the time.
I think someone mentioned at some point that Kim (RW: Hollywood) was the one who told Tonya what happened to her the morning after. To be honest, though, I can't see cast members like Susie and Sarah still hanging out with Kenny if he was involved. That said, knowing and not doing anything to stop it is just as bad, which I feel like he did. The only guilty ones in this situation are the producers who let this happen. Tonya was allegedly sexually assaulted by two male cast members, yet both of them appeared on a challenge after the fact? Something doesn't add up. JL81790 hit the nail on the head. I can see Kenny and Evan doing something like this thinking it's okay because it's for 'entertainment' purposes ... but ... I can also see Tonya grasping for straws at such a low point in her life. She wasn't mentally ready at the time.
Not only Susie and Sarah hang out with them, Evan was in Brad and Tori wedding, Johanna and Diem hung out with them after the Ruins, i have seen pictures of Ace, Emily, Cara Zabaleta, David and Kellyanne hanging out with them
in addition to the what someone had said about how they were blowing in susies private area as a joke, there was a daily of the guys untying kims top over and over in the pool as a practical joke. on rivals they also threw adam into the bathroom when theresa was in it and probably unclothed. they play a lot of pranks that could easily be seen as sexual harassment by the wrong person and they probably thought thaey had a larger margin for what was acceptable because of how much tonya put herself out there. i could easily see them putitng the toothbrush in tonyas area while making asomejoke about how thy were cleaning it up or something
Tonya is one of the most notorious cast members ever. To say that she never brought anything to the show is stupid. That proves even more what a ******* bananas is.
My understanding is that someone stated that Evan did it, but that Kenny was with him and didn't stop it. This is why many still talk to Kenny but not Evan. While Tonya is a basket case, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Since they have never been allowed back my guess is something did. If there was irrefutable proof like tape that they didn't, they would be allowed back.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmHAHzjguL/susie and kim commented on this...kim said nothing happened.
I can't just believe those two because they commented that they were there. If they don't want to go in details because it was a legal situation that's fine but they are better off just letting the situation die. Bananas, Sarah, and Susie's friendships with Kenny and Evan doesn't allow their view of the situation to hold any merit. Also like others have mentioned Tonya has fell off the face of the earth so for them to once again start calling her crazy and a liar is extra to me. My personal opinion of the situation is something happened but the enablers of Kenny and Evan who are used to their antics brushed it off and made Tonya feel like she's overreacting while not taking into consideration her feelings.
Johnny actually brings up a good point in that article. Sarah - and Susie, though I had no idea until now - are victims of sexual ***ault, which means, if the ***ault took place at any point in Thailand, they would have been the first ones to step in and put an end to it whether it was a 'joke' or not. They mention it in their podcast, too. It's always Team Kenny, but really no mention of Evan other than "he didn't do it". I believe even Susie's husband (Tea and Crumpets aka audio mixer on The Ruins) echoed her sentiments. He worked the night shift on that particular season; and if anything happened, I'm sure he would have been there to witness it.
Tonya's biggest error, I think, was waiting three years to bring this up. Supposedly, this all took place in 2008 and she filed the lawsuit in 2011. The longer you wait to report sexual ***ault of any kind, the slimmer your chances are of getting justice. One thing I don't like is how everyone keeps mentioning Tonya's drinking habits. That's like saying as long as you're drunk and have a history of hooking up, your body is public property and will be treated accordingly. Gross and uncalled for, and totally *** backwards.
While I can maybe see Sarah choosing to forget some important details to be 'in with the cool guys', I can't say the same about Susie. I wonder who told Tonya if not Kim ... KellyAnne? Maybe that's why she went on such a long hiatus after The Ruins.
Johnny actually brings up a good point in that article. Sarah - and Susie, though I had no idea until now - are victims of sexual ***ault, which means, if the ***ault took place at any point in Thailand, they would have been the first ones to step in and put an end to it whether it was a 'joke' or not. They mention it in their podcast, too. It's always Team Kenny, but really no mention of Evan other than "he didn't do it". I believe even Susie's husband (Tea and Crumpets aka audio mixer on The Ruins) echoed her sentiments. He worked the night shift on that particular season; and if anything happened, I'm sure he would have been there to witness it. Tonya's biggest error, I think, was waiting three years to bring this up. Supposedly, this all took place in 2008 and she filed the lawsuit in 2011. The longer you wait to report sexual ***ault of any kind, the slimmer your chances are of getting justice. One thing I don't like is how everyone keeps mentioning Tonya's drinking habits. That's like saying as long as you're drunk and have a history of hooking up, your body is public property and will be treated accordingly. Gross and uncalled for, and totally *** backwards. While I can maybe see Sarah choosing to forget some important details to be 'in with the cool guys', I can't say the same about Susie. I wonder who told Tonya if not Kim ... KellyAnne? Maybe that's why she went on such a long hiatus after The Ruins.
The Ruins was filmed in spring 2009 dude. Duel 2 however was filmed in 2008 along with the Island.
Johnny actually brings up a good point in that article. Sarah - and Susie, though I had no idea until now - are victims of sexual ***ault, which means, if the ***ault took place at any point in Thailand, they would have been the first ones to step in and put an end to it whether it was a 'joke' or not. They mention it in their podcast, too. It's always Team Kenny, but really no mention of Evan other than "he didn't do it". I believe even Susie's husband (Tea and Crumpets aka audio mixer on The Ruins) echoed her sentiments. He worked the night shift on that particular season; and if anything happened, I'm sure he would have been there to witness it. Tonya's biggest error, I think, was waiting three years to bring this up. Supposedly, this all took place in 2008 and she filed the lawsuit in 2011. The longer you wait to report sexual ***ault of any kind, the slimmer your chances are of getting justice. One thing I don't like is how everyone keeps mentioning Tonya's drinking habits. That's like saying as long as you're drunk and have a history of hooking up, your body is public property and will be treated accordingly. Gross and uncalled for, and totally *** backwards. While I can maybe see Sarah choosing to forget some important details to be 'in with the cool guys', I can't say the same about Susie. I wonder who told Tonya if not Kim ... KellyAnne? Maybe that's why she went on such a long hiatus after The Ruins.
Along with the foolishness and peo[ple who say Tonya was a hot mess or train wreck, no offense in particular but its not just here on Vevmo either.
I think what's difficult about this case is that, had it gone to trial, I would believe the verdict either way. Could I believe that Kenny and Evan did something EXCEPTIONALLY stupid and disgusting and too far over the line? Yeah. Could I believe that this was a manufactured money-grab by someone who was mentally unwell? Also yeah.
anyone have any update on tonya? haven't seen anything recent about her in years
I think she got cancer about 3 years ago, but she's doing well now? IDK she fell off the face of the Earth, V would know.
I believe that Kenny/Evan did it based on the 2 castmembers who went to Tonya and told her about it, plus there were a few others that thought something had gone on.
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well we know what side of the fence you're on...
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Not gonna lie i miss the JEK Dynasty however i do acknowledge that they made most challenges predictable but what can i say i really enjoyed to see them owning everything at some point and i always wanted the underdogs under their dynasty to pull up a win(e.g:Landon) but if they are really guilty well i think its for the best.
None of us know the truth not even Tonya because she was passed out but like some people said i could see Kenny and Evan being able to do this shit and i could also see Tonya lying about it, and its just weird that she managed to get this far with second-hand allegations.
I think someone mentioned at some point that Kim (RW: Hollywood) was the one who told Tonya what happened to her the morning after. To be honest, though, I can't see cast members like Susie and Sarah still hanging out with Kenny if he was involved. That said, knowing and not doing anything to stop it is just as bad, which I feel like he did. The only guilty ones in this situation are the producers who let this happen. Tonya was allegedly sexually assaulted by two male cast members, yet both of them appeared on a challenge after the fact? Something doesn't add up.
JL81790 hit the nail on the head. I can see Kenny and Evan doing something like this thinking it's okay because it's for 'entertainment' purposes ... but ... I can also see Tonya grasping for straws at such a low point in her life. She wasn't mentally ready at the time.
Not only Susie and Sarah hang out with them, Evan was in Brad and Tori wedding, Johanna and Diem hung out with them after the Ruins, i have seen pictures of Ace, Emily, Cara Zabaleta, David and Kellyanne hanging out with them
in addition to the what someone had said about how they were blowing in susies private area as a joke, there was a daily of the guys untying kims top over and over in the pool as a practical joke. on rivals they also threw adam into the bathroom when theresa was in it and probably unclothed. they play a lot of pranks that could easily be seen as sexual harassment by the wrong person and they probably thought thaey had a larger margin for what was acceptable because of how much tonya put herself out there. i could easily see them putitng the toothbrush in tonyas area while making asomejoke about how thy were cleaning it up or something
There's a huge gap between being a professional fan fiction writer and a lawyer.
My understanding is that someone stated that Evan did it, but that Kenny was with him and didn't stop it. This is why many still talk to Kenny but not Evan. While Tonya is a basket case, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Since they have never been allowed back my guess is something did. If there was irrefutable proof like tape that they didn't, they would be allowed back.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmHAHzjguL/
susie and kim commented on this...kim said nothing happened.
I wonder was the creator of this thread implying that Tonya was crazy by their choice in the picture with her eyes looking like that...
I can't just believe those two because they commented that they were there. If they don't want to go in details because it was a legal situation that's fine but they are better off just letting the situation die. Bananas, Sarah, and Susie's friendships with Kenny and Evan doesn't allow their view of the situation to hold any merit. Also like others have mentioned Tonya has fell off the face of the earth so for them to once again start calling her crazy and a liar is extra to me. My personal opinion of the situation is something happened but the enablers of Kenny and Evan who are used to their antics brushed it off and made Tonya feel like she's overreacting while not taking into consideration her feelings.
just because thats your opinion doesnt mean its the truth...only the people there know what happened...
So... What about Evan? Because all I see is "setting the record straight about Kenny" and #TeamKennyForever.
***** please Jesus knows. And Kim backtracking for that Challenge 29 call. Can't stand that racist ****
Nice try but the page is deleted.
Johnny actually brings up a good point in that article. Sarah - and Susie, though I had no idea until now - are victims of sexual ***ault, which means, if the ***ault took place at any point in Thailand, they would have been the first ones to step in and put an end to it whether it was a 'joke' or not. They mention it in their podcast, too. It's always Team Kenny, but really no mention of Evan other than "he didn't do it". I believe even Susie's husband (Tea and Crumpets aka audio mixer on The Ruins) echoed her sentiments. He worked the night shift on that particular season; and if anything happened, I'm sure he would have been there to witness it.
Tonya's biggest error, I think, was waiting three years to bring this up. Supposedly, this all took place in 2008 and she filed the lawsuit in 2011. The longer you wait to report sexual ***ault of any kind, the slimmer your chances are of getting justice. One thing I don't like is how everyone keeps mentioning Tonya's drinking habits. That's like saying as long as you're drunk and have a history of hooking up, your body is public property and will be treated accordingly. Gross and uncalled for, and totally *** backwards.
While I can maybe see Sarah choosing to forget some important details to be 'in with the cool guys', I can't say the same about Susie. I wonder who told Tonya if not Kim ... KellyAnne? Maybe that's why she went on such a long hiatus after The Ruins.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmHAHzjguL/
the link changed for some reason...its still there
The real question is why didn't Adam file a lawsuit against Bananas for fingering his ******* with tiger balm?
I'm so sorry.Because he liked it.
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The Ruins was filmed in spring 2009 dude. Duel 2 however was filmed in 2008 along with the Island.
Along with the foolishness and peo[ple who say Tonya was a hot mess or train wreck, no offense in particular but its not just here on Vevmo either.
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