The Challenge: Rivals 3 - Reunion (Spoilers)

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Oh so question: Jenna and Vince won second place, but she decided to take all the money like Bananas did with Sarah? Or did Jenna and Vince split the money? Did Devin and Chey win anything? I'm confused *Help*

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richjoe92 wrote:

Tbone123 wrote:You're killing me smalls... There ain't even any argument here with y'all still stanning bananas not even seeing how wrong his decision was. There isn't a rightfully deserved when he made it to the final because of Sarah. That takes precedence. A long *** journey of being the best team, only to have a horrible twist bring out the inner snake in someone. He's probably gonna look even worse since they're editing and building up this friendship and making it seem like they're best buddies. I hope he gets dragged to **** and back on social media and somehow realizes how ****** up his decision was but I have my doubts. It's a good thing the storm before the storm is already happening on social media though (:

There is no stanning of Bananas. This is just a mere example of Deontology (Bananas choosing to share) and Concequentialism (Bananas choosing to get ALL the money).The moral obligation here is to share it with Sarah, and by all means, I would be inclined to share since her and Bananas worked together to get to the final. And if they had to work together in a final, then even more reason to share.Then you have this "the ends justify the means" aspect, were this is a game show and the purpose is to win the most money, right? So all Johnny did was act on the purpose of the show; to get the most cash prize. I personally would consider this, but I'm more of more deontologist than concequatialist so there is that.But I don't consider either wrong in regards to a game show. I just thought comparing the duty of a Dentist or Doctor and the law that prevents to overcharge to a game show where it was part of the game rules, to be a bit outlandish.Bananas is still a shit head. No doubt about it.

its not outlandish at all. its outlandish to say that however that something is "right" just beacuse its within the context of the rules. if there is a law out there that allows me to sucker punch you in the face while raping your family then that doesn't make it "right"you dont jack money from people that earn it...PERIOD

I mean, that law would go against the Human Rights laws. But you're arguement doesn't hold because you're now bring violence into the situation. The Doctor or Dentist overcharged, but never ***ualted the patient. Bananas took Sarah's portion of winning, but never ***ualted Sarah.I understand where you're going, but you're adhering to Deontology, when you think it is MORAL incorrect to take Sarah's portion despite the fact that was fair and within the contexts of rules within the game.

if you're going by a dog eat dog rule then there are no such things as human rights laws. Money is a human right, ***uming one cares about it.  It's related to your physical and mental well being. White collar crime is just as condemnable as blue collar crime 

my pointis just because it's law doesn't make it coo. There are plenty of rules that are ****** up 

richjoe92 wrote:

v123 wrote:

richjoe92 wrote:
Tbone123 wrote:You're killing me smalls... There ain't even any argument here with y'all still stanning bananas not even seeing how wrong his decision was. There isn't a rightfully deserved when he made it to the final because of Sarah. That takes precedence. A long *** journey of being the best team, only to have a horrible twist bring out the inner snake in someone. He's probably gonna look even worse since they're editing and building up this friendship and making it seem like they're best buddies. I hope he gets dragged to **** and back on social media and somehow realizes how ****** up his decision was but I have my doubts. It's a good thing the storm before the storm is already happening on social media though (:

There is no stanning of Bananas. This is just a mere example of Deontology (Bananas choosing to share) and Concequentialism (Bananas choosing to get ALL the money).The moral obligation here is to share it with Sarah, and by all means, I would be inclined to share since her and Bananas worked together to get to the final. And if they had to work together in a final, then even more reason to share.Then you have this "the ends justify the means" aspect, were this is a game show and the purpose is to win the most money, right? So all Johnny did was act on the purpose of the show; to get the most cash prize. I personally would consider this, but I'm more of more deontologist than concequatialist so there is that.But I don't consider either wrong in regards to a game show. I just thought comparing the duty of a Dentist or Doctor and the law that prevents to overcharge to a game show where it was part of the game rules, to be a bit outlandish.Bananas is still a shit head. No doubt about it.

its not outlandish at all. its outlandish to say that however that something is "right" just beacuse its within the context of the rules. if there is a law out there that allows me to sucker punch you in the face while raping your family then that doesn't make it "right"you dont jack money from people that earn it...PERIOD

I mean, that law would go against the Human Rights laws. But you're arguement doesn't hold because you're now bring violence into the situation. The Doctor or Dentist overcharged, but never ***ualted the patient. Bananas took Sarah's portion of winning, but never ***ualted Sarah.I understand where you're going, but you're adhering to Deontology, when you think it is MORAL incorrect to take Sarah's portion despite the fact that was fair and within the contexts of rules within the game.

if you're going by a dog eat dog rule then there are no such things as human rights laws. Money is a human right. It's related to your physical and mental well being. White collar crime is just as condemnable as blue collar crime 

What the **** are you even talking about right now?

im talking about oyur claim that something is OK because its part of the rules. you cant use "ohh but its in the rulessss" as an excuse lol. there are PLENTY of ****** up rules and laws all around the world

sarah has a "human right" to be credited with the work that she has put in

 Oh so question: Jenna and Vince won second place, but she decided to take all the money like Bananas did with Sarah? Or did Jenna and Vince split the money? Did Devin and Chey win anything? I'm confused *Help*

The other two teams split the money apparently

TBH, after tonight's episode, I felt she would do the exact same. And so would Devin and Vince. Probably Cheyenne too. Wes supposedly said it was a smart move.I'm just curious what most people's reaction would be if a fan favorite did this to someone like Bananas, I feel like you would all support it. He did what was smart for him, so would most people. I would probably do the same thing unless my partner was someone I really liked.

you shouldnt have to **** with someone on that level to feel impelled to credit them with what they've earned. there are a lot of shitty people that i work with on a daily basis but i would never want to take what they've earned despite having personal distaste for them

I'm loving all the hate sarah is getting on social media for the chey/vince/bananas stuff. about time people called her out on her shit. and to think, she could have walked away a "fan favorite" & on top after exes 2... but unlike some people who are saying she's greedy, i really think she came back just for the attention. her husband is apparently rich and doesn't like her doing the shows anyway, so not sure why she'd need the money. she just wants fans to tell her how great she is- that certainly backfired this season when her true colors started being shown. i can't believe she's asking ppl for more money... tho i hope someone on vevmo actually pays it and gives us all the inside scoop

im talking about oyur claim that something is OK because its part of the rules. you cant use "ohh but its in the rulessss" as an excuse lol. there are PLENTY of ****** up rules and laws all around the worldsarah has a "human right" to be credited with the work that she has put in

Oh. OKay. You lost me when you brought up blue and white collar crime, because neither of those are what Johnny did. I meant basic human rights. It is not a basic human right to be credited for working together as a team on a reality tv show. She is not being stolen of anything. She's not even  being up in a worse position than she was before coming on to the show. 

And in regards to my claim, I simply just mentioned that there are two types of ways to look at what Johnny did. Neither of which are necessary wrong, but it alway depends on what you think is the best choice. You obviously lean towards a Deontologistic actions, so you're obviously going to go with morality. I do too. But in reality, other people are also "the ends justify the means" kind of mentality. 

im not on bananas side- he definitly i think should have shared it (not surprised he didnt though) but at the same time, sarah being a "sheep", not defending cheyenne against johnny and makign excuses isnt helping her case at all. perhaps people would feel worse for her IF she didnt turn into one of johnnys minnions when she's with him. i'm not saying she has to agree with everything johnny does but speaking up and defnding someone when their being picked on should be a given.

Hes the cancer of the challenge. He's like that stereotypical white male that makes people hate the US . Get off television.

Thank you tumblr and moronic MTV shows like White People.  Brainwashed a new generation. 

So racist. 

Good for Johnny, I'm sure 80% of the cast would do the same thing in his shoes.

Good for Johnny, I'm sure 80% of the cast would do the same thing in his shoes.

not really

Thank you:)

Kidding yourself, you get a chance to walk away with the full purse..practically everyone is doing that.  Greed and money talk. 

80% of the cast actually couldn't make a final, so maybe that should be corrected. 

Kidding yourself, you get a chance to walk away with the full purse..practically everyone is doing that.  Greed and money talk. 80% of the cast actually couldn't make a final, so maybe that should be corrected. 

I'll believe this once I see the final and who decided to keep all the money. I doubt Devin and Vince would do that to their partners and if they don't then that truly says something about this tragic statement. And as for bananas, he's kinda a sociopath, hypocrite, and huge baby so I expect him to keep it unfortunately. Hopefully he doesn't 

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Hes the cancer of the challenge. He's like that stereotypical white male that makes people hate the US . Get off television.

Thank you tumblr and moronic MTV shows like White People.  Brainwashed a new generation. So racist. 

Not even a little racist. I've never been on tumblr a day in my life and I've never seen this "White People" show. 

If you are not aware of the stereo types about different groups then don't respond to  me. Ever. The fact that trump an egotistical maniac reality star is being taken seriously as a potential president alone should tell you that  delusional people can support narcissistic entitled men WHICH IS A STEREOTYPE ABOUT RICH WHITE MEN !!!! Foh, whoever you are and realise what John has turned this show into. Goodbye! 

Vince and Devin both had the option and chose to share the money.

andre.silencio wrote:

TBH, after tonight's episode, I felt she would do the exact same. And so would Devin and Vince. Probably Cheyenne too. Wes supposedly said it was a smart move.I'm just curious what most people's reaction would be if a fan favorite did this to someone like Bananas, I feel like you would all support it. He did what was smart for him, so would most people. I would probably do the same thing unless my partner was someone I really liked.

I know I would!

its a smart move. id support it either way, but just because its bananas id support ie ven more. might make it seem like its "case dependent" and well yes, it is.

Anyways Bananas & Sarah were told about the twist before the rest of the cast were in order to be prepared for their reaction. As well as how the ending of this season should be. The show is going for that who whole drama/rivalry thing that's huge on other reality shows.This is Bananas job Reality Star aka Reality actor.This **** rehearses his lines for his confessionals.

has someone said this?

OldSchoolNonPhysical wrote:

Good for Johnny, I'm sure 80% of the cast would do the same thing in his shoes.

not really

dont think devin and maybe wes would've buti could definitly see vince doing it if he won 1st

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Hes the cancer of the challenge. He's like that stereotypical white male that makes people hate the US . Get off television.

Thank you tumblr and moronic MTV shows like White People.  Brainwashed a new generation. So racist. 

 

You must not get out much.

You can tell Devin cares about Cheyenne so he wouldnt keep all the money.

Kidding yourself, you get a chance to walk away with the full purse..practically everyone is doing that.  Greed and money talk. 80% of the cast actually couldn't make a final, so maybe that should be corrected. 

Except it was only Bananas doing it (according to spoilers) so your point is invalid. 

nevidcm wrote:

OldSchoolNonPhysical wrote:Good for Johnny, I'm sure 80% of the cast would do the same thing in his shoes.

not really

dont think devin and maybe wes would've buti could definitly see vince doing it if he won 1st

i still don't see Vince doing it tbh, maybe if he was with someone else but not to Jenna. I feel like Bananas mostly did it for payback, like the dude clearly wasn't over what happened on Exes 2. 

i can't wait to hear johnny's defense of this was revenge and karma for sarah. i mean sarah voted him in, but he had the chanve to win and come back. Sarah alwso was just as important in johnny making this final as johnny was, johnny even credited her through out the challenge for helping a ton. so he is taking all the money. i don't see how that's equal in anyway. If you are a greedy **** fine, be a greedy ****. but i can already see him justifying this and how he is not in the wrong and it's karma or revenge and people will buy into it. the point is that this says more about johnny than anything else as a person. He wont' accept that this is a **** move is my guess adn will be all defensive how sarah deserved it. Typical johnny saying one thing, doing another. Just for the record i  do not like sarah or care about her.

I think Wes would split. Vince will split. Tony/Camila is the one team i would wonder about. Tony has a lot of child support he will need money for. Camila i could see keeping it too.

Also vince rooting for johnny to run the final with him even though an alliance at that point meant nothing and they would have a way better chance to win money if johnny lost, just shows how they all were just trying to get 2nd place and handing them first.  The final was over before it started.

I still can't get over how mediocre Jenna has been and how people thought she would rival Sarah

Also vince rooting for johnny to run the final with him even though an alliance at that point meant nothing and they would have a way better chance to win money if johnny lost, just shows how they all were just trying to get 2nd place and handing them first.  The final was over before it started.

If I was in a game show with my cousin, I would want them running the final with me. 

The main goal is MONEY FINISH. If he wins first, he's sharing money with me and vice versa...we are family. Blood thick and thin. 

Also vince rooting for johnny to run the final with him even though an alliance at that point meant nothing and they would have a way better chance to win money if johnny lost, just shows how they all were just trying to get 2nd place and handing them first.  The final was over before it started.

Except that they're...y'know...family. Were I there with my brother or cousin I wouldn't be rooting for them to lose...even if I knew they would be better in a final than me. Perhaps he actually cares for his cousin's wellbeing and would like to have them both make money rather than just one of them. 

I still can't get over how mediocre Jenna has been and how people thought she would rival Sarah

Production told her to take it easy after the first challenge ✌️ Too much slayage for one season.

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