cara also only beat nia because nia made rookie mistakes like overtightening her straps and not building a base/hole for herself. if they went at it again, id put money on nia
also cara is SO lucky she was never on exes 2. i could honetsly see her DYING in the final in the first leg. cara, if she made it to the final, wouldve gotten second place AGAIN and it woudlve been all her fault
there is no way that jess weighed as much as laurel
sarah did better than cara in almost every single mission. cara was a nightmare on cutthroat
how do we know shes better than leroy at swimming?
her puzzle abilities are inconsistent at best. she has her moments but the other times she's unreliable. she almost lost bloodlines to cory/mitch because she and jamie couldnt do the puzzles
sarah doesnt even work out that much for these things
v123 wrote:sarah has outperformed cara on every challengekelly anne has degraded some as a competitor. i would like to see her back in mint shape
That may be true, but CaraMaria would kick Sarah's *** in any physical/athletic elimination, and definately can outrun her on a final.If you look at individual challenges, KellyAnne excels at all the athletic ones. They were in first on the "mini final" challenge until Jamie decided to l***o instead of throw rocks, so I don't hold that one against them. And then the other one they sucked at was driving a go-kart off a cliff so...As for eliminations, I don't consider losing by not being able to stack blocks or blindly play soccer (especially when you can't hear your teammate) actual losses. Those were two of the weirdest/not athletic eliminations ever.I still consider KA top-tier. She's just had some Theresa luck lately.
Cara is jacked and would beat most girls in something physical, doesn't change the fact Sarah is better overall. **** Sarah sent her *** home and performed better in a few missions With Vinny & Katelyn than Cara did with Abram & Laurel. People seem to forget until free agents, Cara was mediocre she constantly held Cooke back on rivals 2.
Ok I admit you have a point, Sarah is better than CM at most daily missions. She's top tier when it comes to daily missions. However, there's no way in **** Sarah would take out Nia, LaToya, Jessica and compete well with a broken hand like CM did in Free Agents. Sarah is top tier daily mission, CM is top tier eliminations and finals. I think eliminations and finals> daily misssions.
Sarah never had the disfunctional pair up that CM had. Laurel was elite but had rly bad blood with CM and Abe/CM team was messy and a mirror of their relationship, Sarah had Vinny just a hook up on FM2 and Katelynn whom she didn't even had real beef only because she considered her weak.On Rivals 1 CM made it to the finals, Sarah w***ent home by Jonna/Jasmine. Exes 1 Sarah was gone by episode 2 cuz of the Vinny thing, Seasons 2 Sarah outperformed CM but CM had the most disfunctional team on pair with San Diego and Vegas or worst.Rivals 2 she held Cooke back but pulled her weight when necessary and won them the last mission "true colors" while Sarah was DQed again. So in reality Sarah only outperformed CM on FM2 and Seasons 2.
Sarah won a mission on exes, cara didn't, sarah didnt come in last twice on rivals, she did better than cara in those missions. In the 2 episodes she was on exes, she did better with a garbage partner and she came in last once as opposed to twice. Sarah easily out performed cara all of cutthroat, she did better on freshmeat 2, sarah is better. Cara holding Cooke back proves it clearly wasn't thr disfunctional partners but cara herself
which is soooo pathetic when you realize that cara maria was around for like 3x as many challenges, yet still had worst stats than sarah in her TWO missions
sarah also finished top 3 or top 4 in the first mission too
Boycotting the challenges. MTV is catering to Johnny even though they knew he cheated to win the final with adderall. They lied and told the media that Sarah was unavailable for interviews to protect their golden boy from the accusations. This isn't right.
Boycotting the challenges. MTV is catering to Johnny even though they knew he cheated to win the final with adderall. They lied and told the media that Sarah was unavailable for interviews to protect their golden boy from the accusations. This isn't right.
hey susie
LOL no kidding, those two really need to move on. Also I find it hilarious that Sarah said on her podcast that people had to pay to watch that the reason she turned down interviews was to give her listeners the exclusive, yet now she's crying and victimizing herself yet again by saying she wasn't contacted. Get your story straight, dude. Or, just move the **** on.
there is no way that jess weighed as much as laurelsarah did better than cara in almost every single mission. cara was a nightmare on cutthroathow do we know shes better than leroy at swimming? her puzzle abilities are inconsistent at best. she has her moments but the other times she's unreliable. she almost lost bloodlines to cory/mitch because she and jamie couldnt do the puzzles sarah doesnt even work out that much for these things
i mean to be fair it's hard to be worse than Leroy at swimming lol
mickeyflo24 wrote:i'm not gonna lie though Devin was dumb to say that Bananas wouldn't have won with anyone else in the Final.
It's hard to not fully agree with that. Sarah was by far the best girl there had she been paired with almost any other guy there and Bananas was with someone else she would have had a good shot at winning.
bananas has won with Camilla before though so I didn't agree with Devin saying that either..bananas/Camilla were a dominant duo so they could have easily beat sarah and whoever she was paired with.
one fo the few times me and JEKFAN agree on something.
Okay does anyone think that Camilla might be letting Vince and Bananas take turns with her. Tag teaming her. I swear I think that she was in that shower and Vince was basically saying to Bananas in a sly way if he wanted to get in and have his turn with her too, but he didn't feel like banging her. That's my theory on that scene.
I fully believe that that was the case. Nasty *** *****.
Challenge 17 wrote:Imo If camila and Vince didnt hookup, she wouldn't have gotten so defensive and try and start shit with nessa.
Ehhh it was different there, they kept pushing it after everyone already said it was nothing.
still, if nothing happened she'd just laugh it off, she wouldn't get upset and start going on the defensive. She just made herself look guilty.
not really. im not a big fan of Nessa and she has proven to be a biased host before. she was definitley egging the conversation on especially after both Vince and Camila said nothing happened. i would have blown up too.
I think you guys are taking my wording a little too literally. I was just stating the simple fact that although Sarah is top tier in daily missions, there are a great number of girls that would wipe the floor with her in terms of strength, endurance, and athletisism. CM would beat her in a physical elimination, period. And I think Sarah would definitely struggle with Jessica, 'cause Jessica did have like at least 30 pounds on CM. No matter how strong you are, size is hard to overcome, and CM took down both Jessica and Aneesa, two much bigger girls. Sarah's great at puzzles, but she's not unbeatable there either clearly (Jonna, Bananas).
Just saying, overall, I would rank players like KellyAnne, Laurel, Theresa, Ev, Camila, Susie, Jillian, Emily, Cooke, CM (now, at least, not how she started out) above her. A lot of those girls are 8/10-10/10 elite players, and a lot are retired. I think rating Sarah a 7/10 is perfectly fair. She's great, but she's not elite. She's just better than most that are still around.
I think you guys are taking my wording a little too literally. I was just stating the simple fact that although Sarah is top tier in daily missions, there are a great number of girls that would wipe the floor with her in terms of strength, endurance, and athletisism. CM would beat her in a physical elimination, period. And I think Sarah would definitely struggle with Jessica, 'cause Jessica did have like at least 30 pounds on CM. No matter how strong you are, size is hard to overcome, and CM took down both Jessica and Aneesa, two much bigger girls. Sarah's great at puzzles, but she's not unbeatable there either clearly (Jonna, Bananas).Just saying, overall, I would rank players like KellyAnne, Laurel, Theresa, Ev, Camila, Susie, Jillian, Emily, Cooke, CM (now, at least, not how she started out) above her. A lot of those girls are 8/10-10/10 elite players, and a lot are retired. I think rating Sarah a 7/10 is perfectly fair. She's great, but she's not elite. She's just better than most that are still around.
How on earth did Jill & Susie make that list? Sarah would easily beat them......
Jessica is not 30 pounds heavier than Cara lets not kid ourselves. Sarah would beat her because Jessica sucks plain and simple.
How on earth did Jill & Susie make that list? Sarah would easily beat them...... Jessica is not 30 pounds heavier than Cara lets not kid ourselves. Sarah would beat her because Jessica sucks plain and simple.
Ok those two would be a toss up. I think Susie and Jill are on the same playing field with Sarah because they're good at daily missions, they're athletic, and they're smart and would be good competition for puzzles too.
I would switch Sarah and KellyAnne. Because collectively (from all there seasons) Sarah was better than KellyAnne's flux of being great to being just okay.
I woudl switch Camilla and Theresa. Camilla is more of a physical presence in daily missions than Theresa, although I do think Theresa was always consistantly good from FM2-Exes2, she just had bad partners. I think in the two missions Cam/Theresa did together, Camilla did a little better.
Cara is good where she is at, because although she got better, she definetly has weakness which are very apparent.
I would switch Sarah and KellyAnne. Because collectively (from all there seasons) Sarah was better than KellyAnne's flux of being great to being just okay.I woudl switch Camilla and Theresa. Camilla is more of a physical presence in daily missions than Theresa, although I do think Theresa was always consistantly good from FM2-Exes2, she just had bad partners. I think in the two missions Cam/Theresa did together, Camilla did a little better.Cara is good where she is at, because although she got better, she definetly has weakness which are very apparent.
I disagree with KA. I think she's one of the best all-around players. Great athleticism proven by missions, good with puzzles (proven by the Up All Night mission, she knew the whole thing, and her Final on Ruins), pretty strong, great endurance, good swimmer.
Her comeback has been strong, but it's overshadowed by the fact that the Blue team sucked/threw missions on Bloodlines (she was consistantly one of the best girls), and that Jamie blew it on 3 missions on Rivals III. Looking back at her eliminations, she did great on the Island but was never gonna beat Ev on that last water challenge, she lost on Bloodlines because she couldn't stack blocks (otherwise she destroyed Jenna in the spinning/athletic parts of that elimination), and the blind soccer challenge was pure luck because you couldn't even hear anything.
Not trying to make excuses for her, I'm just trying to open up people's eyes to her performance because a lot of people were ranking her way lower than she should be.
How on earth did Jill & Susie make that list? Sarah would easily beat them...... Jessica is not 30 pounds heavier than Cara lets not kid ourselves. Sarah would beat her because Jessica sucks plain and simple.
7/10: Sarah, Jillian, Susie8/10: KellyAnne, Cara Maria, Camila9/10: Theresa, Emily, Cooke10/10: Laurel, Ev
I agree with this list and I'm glad Jillian is getting some love!
I would switch Sarah and KellyAnne. Because collectively (from all there seasons) Sarah was better than KellyAnne's flux of being great to being just okay.I woudl switch Camilla and Theresa. Camilla is more of a physical presence in daily missions than Theresa, although I do think Theresa was always consistantly good from FM2-Exes2, she just had bad partners. I think in the two missions Cam/Theresa did together, Camilla did a little better.Cara is good where she is at, because although she got better, she definetly has weakness which are very apparent.
I disagree with KA. I think she's one of the best all-around players. Great athleticism proven by missions, good with puzzles (proven by the Up All Night mission, she knew the whole thing, and her Final on Ruins), pretty strong, great endurance, good swimmer. Her comeback has been strong, but it's overshadowed by the fact that the Blue team sucked/threw missions on Bloodlines (she was consistantly one of the best girls), and that Jamie blew it on 3 missions on Rivals III. Looking back at her eliminations, she did great on the Island but was never gonna beat Ev on that last water challenge, she lost on Bloodlines because she couldn't stack blocks (otherwise she destroyed Jenna in the spinning/athletic parts of that elimination), and the blind soccer challenge was pure luck because you couldn't even hear anything. Not trying to make excuses for her, I'm just trying to open up people's eyes to her performance because a lot of people were ranking her way lower than she should be.
I'm not trying to deminish her skills and ability. I do agree that she wasn't a stand out like she was on Ruins, and I still think she a great competitor. I just don't think she's as great as she was on Ruins. I do think Sarah is more well-rounded than KellyAnne, which is why I'd rank Sarah higher than her. I think KellyAnn would be at her best in a team format, individually, or on a partner format where he partner would be the one in charge. She did say on the podcast that a big issue with Jamie was that "they were all indians and no chiefs". So Think the dynamic of having someone good next to her brings her best potential self.
With Sarah, I think that she is consistently performs well, she obviously has her weakness (endurance), regardless of having a bad partner or not.
What are Sarah's puzzle losses and wins? Lost To Jonna rivalsto Susie/Evan on ruins to Johnny rivals3 finale memory game to Theresa exes2 minifinal which was part cardio and her wins?
What are Sarah's puzzle losses and wins? Lost To Jonna rivalsto Susie/Evan on ruins to Johnny rivals3 finale memory game to Theresa exes2 minifinal which was part cardio and her wins?
her wins are the log puzzle on seasons, and the actual puzzle vs Johnny in the final
Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
Tbh most of the puzzles presented to the date are not even that hard. I def. agree with CokoMaggot some of these girls only gained the "top tier" status because after The Ruins/FM2 time the female cast decreased with quality like ****. Sarah can hang but i would much rather have Ruthie,Jodi,Coral,Rachel,Kina,Jillian,Susie as my partner than Sarah.
Btw the puzzles and Trivia just shows how "dumb" most of the cast his sometimes since im not a native english speaker i would have trouble with the spelling part but most of the question are basic af and most 5th graders know 90% of the answers while the cast fails to know basic stuff like "In which continent US stands?" "Whats the official language of Australia" etc etc...
Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
CokoMaggot wrote:Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
Sarah is far better than Svetlana......
No.
it's not even close. Svetlana's overrated *** literally only made the final because of hatred for Beth.
CokoMaggot wrote:Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
Sarah is far better than Svetlana......
No.
it's not even close. Svetlana's overrated *** literally only made the final because of hatred for Beth.
Not true. Svetlana beat Beth fair and square. She showed so much heart and stretnth that season that she could beat anyone..even people like Evelyn and Laurel.
LOL just kidding you're right. Sarah beats her easily.
I agree with comments being taken to literally, but yes Jess is 30 pounds heavier than CM. She is 150 NOW after losing weight and CM was like 115-120 on free agents. She'd be 110 if she wasn't solid muscle. Yes Jess sucks, but being fat helped her tremendously in that type of elimination round
deeper wrote:
I think you guys are taking my wording a little too literally. I was just stating the simple fact that although Sarah is top tier in daily missions, there are a great number of girls that would wipe the floor with her in terms of strength, endurance, and athletisism. CM would beat her in a physical elimination, period. And I think Sarah would definitely struggle with Jessica, 'cause Jessica did have like at least 30 pounds on CM. No matter how strong you are, size is hard to overcome, and CM took down both Jessica and Aneesa, two much bigger girls. Sarah's great at puzzles, but she's not unbeatable there either clearly (Jonna, Bananas).Just saying, overall, I would rank players like KellyAnne, Laurel, Theresa, Ev, Camila, Susie, Jillian, Emily, Cooke, CM (now, at least, not how she started out) above her. A lot of those girls are 8/10-10/10 elite players, and a lot are retired. I think rating Sarah a 7/10 is perfectly fair. She's great, but she's not elite. She's just better than most that are still around.
How on earth did Jill & Susie make that list? Sarah would easily beat them...... Jessica is not 30 pounds heavier than Cara lets not kid ourselves. Sarah would beat her because Jessica sucks plain and simple.
cara also only beat nia because nia made rookie mistakes like overtightening her straps and not building a base/hole for herself. if they went at it again, id put money on nia
also cara is SO lucky she was never on exes 2. i could honetsly see her DYING in the final in the first leg. cara, if she made it to the final, wouldve gotten second place AGAIN and it woudlve been all her fault
there is no way that jess weighed as much as laurel
sarah did better than cara in almost every single mission. cara was a nightmare on cutthroat
how do we know shes better than leroy at swimming?
her puzzle abilities are inconsistent at best. she has her moments but the other times she's unreliable. she almost lost bloodlines to cory/mitch because she and jamie couldnt do the puzzles
sarah doesnt even work out that much for these things
which is soooo pathetic when you realize that cara maria was around for like 3x as many challenges, yet still had worst stats than sarah in her TWO missions
sarah also finished top 3 or top 4 in the first mission too
hey susie
LOL no kidding, those two really need to move on. Also I find it hilarious that Sarah said on her podcast that people had to pay to watch that the reason she turned down interviews was to give her listeners the exclusive, yet now she's crying and victimizing herself yet again by saying she wasn't contacted. Get your story straight, dude. Or, just move the **** on.
i mean to be fair it's hard to be worse than Leroy at swimming lol
one fo the few times me and JEKFAN agree on something.
i don't know why but this made me lol.
not really. im not a big fan of Nessa and she has proven to be a biased host before. she was definitley egging the conversation on especially after both Vince and Camila said nothing happened. i would have blown up too.
except for the final.
I think you guys are taking my wording a little too literally. I was just stating the simple fact that although Sarah is top tier in daily missions, there are a great number of girls that would wipe the floor with her in terms of strength, endurance, and athletisism. CM would beat her in a physical elimination, period. And I think Sarah would definitely struggle with Jessica, 'cause Jessica did have like at least 30 pounds on CM. No matter how strong you are, size is hard to overcome, and CM took down both Jessica and Aneesa, two much bigger girls. Sarah's great at puzzles, but she's not unbeatable there either clearly (Jonna, Bananas).
Just saying, overall, I would rank players like KellyAnne, Laurel, Theresa, Ev, Camila, Susie, Jillian, Emily, Cooke, CM (now, at least, not how she started out) above her. A lot of those girls are 8/10-10/10 elite players, and a lot are retired. I think rating Sarah a 7/10 is perfectly fair. She's great, but she's not elite. She's just better than most that are still around.
How on earth did Jill & Susie make that list? Sarah would easily beat them......
Jessica is not 30 pounds heavier than Cara lets not kid ourselves. Sarah would beat her because Jessica sucks plain and simple.
Ok those two would be a toss up. I think Susie and Jill are on the same playing field with Sarah because they're good at daily missions, they're athletic, and they're smart and would be good competition for puzzles too.
The way I see it:
7/10: Sarah, Jillian, Susie
8/10: KellyAnne, Cara Maria, Camila
9/10: Theresa, Emily, Cooke
10/10: Laurel, Ev
I would switch Sarah and KellyAnne. Because collectively (from all there seasons) Sarah was better than KellyAnne's flux of being great to being just okay.
I woudl switch Camilla and Theresa. Camilla is more of a physical presence in daily missions than Theresa, although I do think Theresa was always consistantly good from FM2-Exes2, she just had bad partners. I think in the two missions Cam/Theresa did together, Camilla did a little better.
Cara is good where she is at, because although she got better, she definetly has weakness which are very apparent.
I disagree with KA. I think she's one of the best all-around players. Great athleticism proven by missions, good with puzzles (proven by the Up All Night mission, she knew the whole thing, and her Final on Ruins), pretty strong, great endurance, good swimmer.
Her comeback has been strong, but it's overshadowed by the fact that the Blue team sucked/threw missions on Bloodlines (she was consistantly one of the best girls), and that Jamie blew it on 3 missions on Rivals III. Looking back at her eliminations, she did great on the Island but was never gonna beat Ev on that last water challenge, she lost on Bloodlines because she couldn't stack blocks (otherwise she destroyed Jenna in the spinning/athletic parts of that elimination), and the blind soccer challenge was pure luck because you couldn't even hear anything.
Not trying to make excuses for her, I'm just trying to open up people's eyes to her performance because a lot of people were ranking her way lower than she should be.
I agree with this list and I'm glad Jillian is getting some love!
I'm not trying to deminish her skills and ability. I do agree that she wasn't a stand out like she was on Ruins, and I still think she a great competitor. I just don't think she's as great as she was on Ruins. I do think Sarah is more well-rounded than KellyAnne, which is why I'd rank Sarah higher than her. I think KellyAnn would be at her best in a team format, individually, or on a partner format where he partner would be the one in charge. She did say on the podcast that a big issue with Jamie was that "they were all indians and no chiefs". So Think the dynamic of having someone good next to her brings her best potential self.
With Sarah, I think that she is consistently performs well, she obviously has her weakness (endurance), regardless of having a bad partner or not.
What are Sarah's puzzle losses and wins?
Lost To Jonna rivals
to Susie/Evan on ruins
to Johnny rivals3 finale memory game
to Theresa exes2 minifinal which was part cardio
and her wins?
The mini final on seasons with the logs.
her wins are the log puzzle on seasons, and the actual puzzle vs Johnny in the final
She good at puzzles, not unbeatable.
she did all the puzzles on seasons and all the puzzles this season as well in the mini-final, elimnation, final. shes been very successful with em
Sarah can be happy she came into show when most of the heavy hitters retired or stopped being casted like Coral, Jodi, Veronica, Ruthie, Rachel, Kina, etc. not to mention "weak" looking girls like Jillian, Svetlana, Kimberly, Susie, etc.
Tbh most of the puzzles presented to the date are not even that hard. I def. agree with CokoMaggot some of these girls only gained the "top tier" status because after The Ruins/FM2 time the female cast decreased with quality like ****. Sarah can hang but i would much rather have Ruthie,Jodi,Coral,Rachel,Kina,Jillian,Susie as my partner than Sarah.
Btw the puzzles and Trivia just shows how "dumb" most of the cast his sometimes since im not a native english speaker i would have trouble with the spelling part but most of the question are basic af and most 5th graders know 90% of the answers while the cast fails to know basic stuff like "In which continent US stands?" "Whats the official language of Australia" etc etc...
Sarah is far better than Svetlana......
No.
it's not even close. Svetlana's overrated *** literally only made the final because of hatred for Beth.
Not true. Svetlana beat Beth fair and square. She showed so much heart and stretnth that season that she could beat anyone..even people like Evelyn and Laurel.
LOL just kidding you're right. Sarah beats her easily.
But Svetlana is miles hotter than Sarah & that's all that really matters in life.
I agree with comments being taken to literally, but yes Jess is 30 pounds heavier than CM. She is 150 NOW after losing weight and CM was like 115-120 on free agents. She'd be 110 if she wasn't solid muscle. Yes Jess sucks, but being fat helped her tremendously in that type of elimination round
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