I am truly upset that Darrell didn't make the finals. Can't believe Cory is there. Hopefully Camila gets her revenge on that Amanda girl. Ashley is a G. CT has the best scenario to win neither Bananas or Darrell are in that final. How they hell did Nelson even make this cast? Hope there's some swimming in the Final. Haha
Cory deserves to be there and in a way Darrell too but he has no respect for women sometimes, coming for Sarah and KellyAnne when his ***** looks tragic too but i already knew he wasn't going to win this time. Hopefully next season
Still a tragedy that Rivals III didn't have a Darrell/KellyAnne team.
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.
That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)1st: Nicole2nd: Ashley MDNF: Camila1st: CT2nd: CoryWho cares: Nelson
Always will be a Camila fan. I will get the tissues ready for you when she wins.
I can't believe Camila Nakagawa invented making it to a final and winning
I don't know what you mean by this, but this is Camila's 9th challenge (out of the 10 challenges that have taken place since her debut) and this is only Camila's third final, and in the other 2 she won one and got third in the other. And the one she won she was with Bananas. And even then didn't they have to come back from behind after CT damn near died on the mountain in Iceland?
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)1st: Nicole2nd: Ashley MDNF: Camila1st: CT2nd: CoryWho cares: Nelson
Always will be a Camila fan. I will get the tissues ready for you when she wins.
You know what? Not even Camila winning can get me down that Bananas is not in the final. I will even trade Camila winning as long as CT wins too. And if Bananas got eliminated by CT/Darrell/Shane then I will need tissues for another reason.
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)1st: Nicole2nd: Ashley MDNF: Camila1st: CT2nd: CoryWho cares: Nelson
I think people's fans (ie Camila) tend to be silent when they are annoying/underperforming/overexposed. Then when it's discovered they do well, they have no problem showing their love.
Example, I'm not a Cory fan, me and a lot of people were talking shit on him sucking earlier on this board (bc of his basicness, losing to Nate, etc), but now we kind of have to bite our tougue (lol) and all the Cory fans that were silent before (because we have a point with him kind of underperforming last season) came out.
I do agree, I think people should post their faves in their profile. Might do that.
I can't believe Camila Nakagawa invented making it to a final and winning
I don't know what you mean by this, but this is Camila's 9th challenge (out of the 10 challenges that have taken place since her debut) and this is only Camila's third final, and in the other 2 she won one and got third in the other. And the one she won she was with Bananas. And even then didn't they have to come back from behind after CT damn near died on the mountain in Iceland?
3 of those seasons she was DQ'd/eliminated because of other people tho. That's not her fault.
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)1st: Nicole2nd: Ashley MDNF: Camila1st: CT2nd: CoryWho cares: Nelson
I think people's fans (ie Camila) tend to be silent when they are annoying/underperforming/overexposed. Then when it's discovered they do well, they have no problem showing their love.Example, I'm not a Cory fan, me and a lot of people were talking shit on him sucking earlier on this board (bc of his basicness, losing to Nate, etc), but now we kind of have to bite our tougue (lol) and all the Cory fans that were silent before (because we have a point with him kind of underperforming last season) came out.I do agree, I think people should post their faves in their profile. Might do that.
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)1st: Nicole2nd: Ashley MDNF: Camila1st: CT2nd: CoryWho cares: Nelson
I think people's fans (ie Camila) tend to be silent when they are annoying/underperforming/overexposed. Then when it's discovered they do well, they have no problem showing their love.Example, I'm not a Cory fan, me and a lot of people were talking shit on him sucking earlier on this board (bc of his basicness, losing to Nate, etc), but now we kind of have to bite our tougue (lol) and all the Cory fans that were silent before (because we have a point with him kind of underperforming last season) came out.I do agree, I think people should post their faves in their profile. Might do that.
Interesting....feel like Camila's haters seem to be a little quieter when she's doing well. Like they just make a casual dislike comment towards her. But when she doesn't do well they go hard as hell on her. If Camila got sent him like Marie did first, it would be mentioned every 5 seconds.
Interesting....feel like Camila's haters seem to be a little quieter when she's doing well. Like they just make a casual dislike comment towards her. But when she doesn't do well they go hard as hell on her. If Camila got sent him like Marie did first, it would be mentioned every 5 seconds.
Interesting....feel like Camila's haters seem to be a little quieter when she's doing well. Like they just make a casual dislike comment towards her. But when she doesn't do well they go hard as hell on her. If Camila got sent him like Marie did first, it would be mentioned every 5 seconds.
Reread what I said, that's exactly what I meant
Oh okay. But they're are certain fans like myself who stan Camila through thick and thin.
I don't know what you mean by this, but this is Camila's 9th challenge (out of the 10 challenges that have taken place since her debut) and this is only Camila's third final, and in the other 2 she won one and got third in the other. And the one she won she was with Bananas. And even then didn't they have to come back from behind after CT damn near died on the mountain in Iceland?
3 of those seasons she was DQ'd/eliminated because of other people tho. That's not her fault.
Yes and no imo. On one hand, simply saying 3/9 challenges she makes it to the final is not fair to her because of what you mentioned. On the other hand, if Eric didn't quit the elimination, Larissa didn't lose to Jenna, or Tony and Camila get into that "fight", does she make any of those finals? I believe that all 3 of those events were relatively early on in the challenge. My point is that we can't simply discount those and say she made 3/6 finals (I'm not saying you are making this argument for the record)
Futhermore, saying that it isn't her fault may be true from a competitive standpoint, but it might not be entirely accurate. In other words, I can't recall if Camila/Eric were winning the elimination prior to Eric quitting, or if they were going to win the elimination if Eric didn't quit. In addition, Camila does deserve some blame for her role in the Tony "fight". She is an instigator and a drama queen. Hell she's made a career out of it. She's either someone you love or you hate. Now, as much as I can't stand Camila, I don't think that she and Tony should have been kicked off. But if Tony was partnered with literally anybody else, does that "fight" go down the way it does? Let's not act like Camila's personality didn't at least play somewhat of a role in her going home.
KingoftheTrill wrote:I don't know what you mean by this, but this is Camila's 9th challenge (out of the 10 challenges that have taken place since her debut) and this is only Camila's third final, and in the other 2 she won one and got third in the other. And the one she won she was with Bananas. And even then didn't they have to come back from behind after CT damn near died on the mountain in Iceland?
3 of those seasons she was DQ'd/eliminated because of other people tho. That's not her fault.
Yes and no imo. On one hand, simply saying 3/9 challenges she makes it to the final is not fair to her because of what you mentioned. On the other hand, if Eric didn't quit the elimination, Larissa didn't lose to Jenna, or Tony and Camila get into that "fight", does she make any of those finals? I believe that all 3 of those events were relatively early on in the challenge. My point is that we can't simply discount those and say she made 3/6 finals (I'm not saying you are making this argument for the record)Futhermore, saying that it isn't her fault may be true from a competitive standpoint, but it might not be entirely accurate. In other words, I can't recall if Camila/Eric were winning the elimination prior to Eric quitting, or if they were going to win the elimination if Eric didn't quit. In addition, Camila does deserve some blame for her role in the Tony "fight". She is an instigator and a drama queen. Hell she's made a career out of it. She's either someone you love or you hate. Now, as much as I can't stand Camila, I don't think that she and Tony should have been kicked off. But if Tony was partnered with literally anybody else, does that "fight" go down the way it does? Let's not act like Camila's personality didn't at least play somewhat of a role in her going home.
Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.
1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?
2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. It was not her fault! He went after her! That idiot. If she went home for that cheating incident that would've made more sense.
2. I don't know if Tony would have. For goodness sake this dude got physical with his brother over stupid shit. He didn't go after Simone when she got in his face because I think he was lowkey scared of her. He didn't think anything of Camila and treated her like shit because Bananas does. He literally is Bananas minion.
That's all I needed to hear. Thank you. (Edit: Not to DA, he just posted before I could respond)
(On a related note, I would suck whoever's **** I have to to get an ignore feature around here. Admittedly the majority of the people remaining on my screen would be myself and the few people responsible for spoilers)
ThatCoralLover wrote:Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. It was not her fault! He went after her! That idiot. If she went home for that cheating incident that would've made more sense.2. I don't know if Tony would have. For goodness sake this dude got physical with his brother over stupid shit. He didn't go after Simone when she got in his face because I think he was lowkey scared of her. He didn't think anything of Camila and treated her like shit because Bananas does. He literally is Bananas minion.You should really rewatch that episode.
Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. Camila is not 0% at fault but she is probably only 10% at fault.
2.Tony has the capability of arguing with ANY woman ever on the show.
Any strong willed woman would stand up for herself if some lunatic that clearly (as shown) has a deep down hate for the girl gets in her face. All he could talk about that night was how much he hated her. She got shoved to the ground and made fun of for getting hurt and nobody even asked if she was ok. Then her partner comes in and starts yelling at her acting all crazy...
Get someone like Nia, Coral, Tonya, Tina, Veronica, Rachel, Robin, Katie, Laurel, Sarah... all of them are going to tell him where he can go and how he can get there. She stood her ground and got loud with him. Most people who have a backbone would do it.
but you're a Camila hater so it's expected of you to think she should have said yes master and looked like a little ***** and kept her mouth shut. But then turn around and talk shit about girls being boring.
Hell even jenna stood up for herself against ******** Devin that season. It's natural reaction to not take shit from people you don't have to take shit from
ThatCoralLover wrote:Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. It was not her fault! He went after her! That idiot. If she went home for that cheating incident that would've made more sense.2. I don't know if Tony would have. For goodness sake this dude got physical with his brother over stupid shit. He didn't go after Simone when she got in his face because I think he was lowkey scared of her. He didn't think anything of Camila and treated her like shit because Bananas does. He literally is Bananas minion.You should really rewatch that episode.
No. It's because the girl is awful and a problem.
When it comes to Camila you can never be objective so you're opinions are invalid to me.
ThatCoralLover wrote:Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. Camila is not 0% at fault but she is probably only 10% at fault. 2.Tony has the capability of arguing with ANY woman ever on the show.Any strong willed woman would stand up for herself if some lunatic that clearly (as shown) has a deep down hate for the girl gets in her face. All he could talk about that night was how much he hated her. She got shoved to the ground and made fun of for getting hurt and nobody even asked if she was ok. Then her partner comes in and starts yelling at her acting all crazy...Get someone like Nia, Coral, Tonya, Tina, Veronica, Rachel, Robin, Katie, Laurel, Sarah... all of them are going to tell him where he can go and how he can get there. She stood her ground and got loud with him. Most people who have a backbone would do it. but you're a Camila hater so it's expected of you to think she should have said yes master and looked like a little ***** and kept her mouth shut. But then turn around and talk shit about girls being boring. Hell even jenna stood up for herself against ******** Devin that season. It's natural reaction to not take shit from people you don't have to take shit from
I was with you except for the 10% at fault and the bolded part. Which Sarah you talking about? Before I jump to conclusions.
1. Camila is not 0% at fault but she is probably only 10% at fault. 2.Tony has the capability of arguing with ANY woman ever on the show.Any strong willed woman would stand up for herself if some lunatic that clearly (as shown) has a deep down hate for the girl gets in her face. All he could talk about that night was how much he hated her. She got shoved to the ground and made fun of for getting hurt and nobody even asked if she was ok. Then her partner comes in and starts yelling at her acting all crazy...Get someone like Nia, Coral, Tonya, Tina, Veronica, Rachel, Robin, Katie, Laurel, Sarah... all of them are going to tell him where he can go and how he can get there. She stood her ground and got loud with him. Most people who have a backbone would do it. but you're a Camila hater so it's expected of you to think she should have said yes master and looked like a little ***** and kept her mouth shut. But then turn around and talk shit about girls being boring. Hell even jenna stood up for herself against ******** Devin that season. It's natural reaction to not take shit from people you don't have to take shit from
My point is that Camila doesn't get a challenge pass because she got sent home because of this "fight". Not only is her explosive personality a contributing factor to the series of events that led to her going home (which I've already said was BS by production), but this was also pretty early on in the game. 6 teams went home after them, so Tony/Camila would have to have beaten those 6 teams plus one of the remaining finals teams in order to get a spot in the final. What is the probability that this happens?
I mean Camila stans can misinterpret my post all they want and turn this into a "girls should be submissive" argument or whatever dumb crap they can think of. It just reinforces my point that a lot of the people here are teenage fanboys and fangirls. I mean I was one of them 10-12 years ago (when I watched Road Rules South Pacific/X-Treme and the challenges from the original Battle of the Sexes until about The Inferno 3 and commented on the mtv.com boards) and I have to say that there isn't a more annoying group of people on the internet than some of those kids. I sincerely hate a lot of you with a passion. I only come here for the spoilers but I occasionally linger with hopes to remind you of how stupid a lot of you are.
For me, I try to give credit where it is due. Camila can get annoying sometimes with her drunk shenanigans but she definitely is a great competitor with a lot of heart who hasn't really been in a great place Challenge and life wise these last few years. I mean come on being on a team with Big Easy, her sister (bless her heart but she is not meant for this show), and the ticking time bomb of Tony in addition to dealing with so many people dying in her life. Her video on YouTube that she posted really reminded me how rough it's been for her but I do hope that she kicks *** this season. It would be a big thing for her to win one after dealing with so much heartache and to prove to others that she can win without John.
As for the others, Cory has only been on two seasons so I feel like we'll be able to get a better judgement of him after this season airs since he was pretty solid on Bloodlines and Rivals 3 but has had some poor showings. Amanda and Nelson did do pretty decently last season but they were only on there for a short amount of time so this season can really prove to us what kind of competitors they are. Cara Maria and John have gone home first before so I feel like someone has to do a few so we can get an overall feel of how they are.
Also, idk where all of this Darrell hate came from tho. He has won 4 of these (and we all know he would've won the ruins if it wasn't for Brad). Him being eliminated this season doesn't automatically mean that he's a flop or anything close to that. Of course I would have loved to see him compete in a modern day final but alas everyone has their ups and downs. After all, Buff Wes' perfect elimination record was broken by tiny Cohutta so who knows how these eliminations will go this season
For me, I try to give credit where it is due. Camila can get annoying sometimes with her drunk shenanigans but she definitely is a great competitor with a lot of heart who hasn't really been in a great place Challenge and life wise these last few years. I mean come on being on a team with Big Easy, her sister (bless her heart but she is not meant for this show), and the ticking time bomb of Tony in addition to dealing with so many people dying in her life. Her video on YouTube that she posted really reminded me how rough it's been for her but I do hope that she kicks *** this season. It would be a big thing for her to win one after dealing with so much heartache and to prove to others that she can win without John. As for the others, Cory has only been on two seasons so I feel like we'll be able to get a better judgement of him after this season airs since he was pretty solid on Bloodlines and Rivals 3 but has had some poor showings. Amanda and Nelson did do pretty decently last season but they were only on there for a short amount of time so this season can really prove to us what kind of competitors they are. Cara Maria and John have gone home first before so I feel like someone has to do a few so we can get an overall feel of how they are.Also, idk where all of this Darrell hate came from tho. He has won 4 of these (and we all know he would've won the ruins if it wasn't for Brad). Him being eliminated this season doesn't automatically mean that he's a flop or anything close to that. Of course I would have loved to see him compete in a modern day final but alas everyone has their ups and downs. After all, Buff Wes' perfect elimination record was broken by tiny Cohutta so who knows how these eliminations will go this season
That's all I needed to hear. Thank you. (Edit: Not to DA, he just posted before I could respond)(On a related note, I would suck whoever's **** I have to to get an ignore feature around here. Admittedly the majority of the people remaining on my screen would be myself and the few people responsible for spoilers)
That's all I needed to hear. Thank you. (Edit: Not to DA, he just posted before I could respond)(On a related note, I would suck whoever's **** I have to to get an ignore feature around here. Admittedly the majority of the people remaining on my screen would be myself and the few people responsible for spoilers)
1. Camila is not 0% at fault but she is probably only 10% at fault. 2.Tony has the capability of arguing with ANY woman ever on the show.Any strong willed woman would stand up for herself if some lunatic that clearly (as shown) has a deep down hate for the girl gets in her face. All he could talk about that night was how much he hated her. She got shoved to the ground and made fun of for getting hurt and nobody even asked if she was ok. Then her partner comes in and starts yelling at her acting all crazy...Get someone like Nia, Coral, Tonya, Tina, Veronica, Rachel, Robin, Katie, Laurel, Sarah... all of them are going to tell him where he can go and how he can get there. She stood her ground and got loud with him. Most people who have a backbone would do it. but you're a Camila hater so it's expected of you to think she should have said yes master and looked like a little ***** and kept her mouth shut. But then turn around and talk shit about girls being boring. Hell even jenna stood up for herself against ******** Devin that season. It's natural reaction to not take shit from people you don't have to take shit from
My point is that Camila doesn't get a challenge pass because she got sent home because of this "fight". Not only is her explosive personality a contributing factor to the series of events that led to her going home (which I've already said was BS by production), but this was also pretty early on in the game. 6 teams went home after them, so Tony/Camila would have to have beaten those 6 teams plus one of the remaining finals teams in order to get a spot in the final. What is the probability that this happens?I mean Camila stans can misinterpret my post all they want and turn this into a "girls should be submissive" argument or whatever dumb crap they can think of. It just reinforces my point that a lot of the people here are teenage fanboys and fangirls. I mean I was one of them 10-12 years ago (when I watched Road Rules South Pacific/X-Treme and the challenges from the original Battle of the Sexes until about The Inferno 3 and commented on the mtv.com boards) and I have to say that there isn't a more annoying group of people on the internet than some of those kids. I sincerely hate a lot of you with a passion. I only come here for the spoilers but I occasionally linger with hopes to remind you of how stupid a lot of you are.
I don't think I could have responded better than imallergic did in regards to why I like Camila, and why I think she gets a bad rep. I also understand why people don't like her all the time, but I think looking at the whole picture, she's definitely an interesting and likable character for the show.
I will say I do not think she's 0% responsible for the situation with Tony. She was a difficult partner as well for all the reasons listed above, but I think Johnny and especially Tony are to blame. Like imallergic said, she was pushed to the ground and laughed at, then Johnny (a former fling, so it probably stings worse that he's doing this to her) instigates the situation with a beligerent Tony. She's definitely more of a victim with all things considered. I do think Tony could have gone off on another female just like he did her, as he was blacked out and had no control. He's definitely to blame, no matter how much Camila rubbed him the wrong way.
Anyway, in regards to her Challenge record, all I'm saying is that her record is pretty strong considering who she has been partnered with in the past. 3/9 finals is still great. Do I think she and Big Easy could have made the final that season? No. But I think that team was doomed with the guys they were given. Do I think Camila and Larisa could have made the final? No. But again, that's more on Larisa. What I'm saying is she's only technically lost to Laurel&CM, Theresa, and Laurel again for actual losses. 3/9 challenges she lost fair and square, 3/9 challenges she made the final, and 3/9 challenges she's been put in situations where she wasn't gonna make it regardless.
And yea I NEED to see this Laurel elimination ASAP. It's actually interesting to see that she's kinda similar to an early Wes in the sense that he made a final, won a final, and the next challenge he went on he finally lost. She obvi has done a few more but she did make finals, won one, and lost her 9th elimination as did he. But I still feel like it's a bit more shocking since Laurel is a giant. She's got the size, endurance, and mental strength that makes her elite. Throwback to both of the times where she pulverized Jasmine LOL
I also hope that Cara, Darrell, Shane, and Jenna's eliminations are good fights as well. If Laurel did eliminate Cara after she declared their "break" on the brain candy, then this shit will get real messy real quick. The Challenge Presents: Laurel argues with Cara, Vol 2343
Still a tragedy that Rivals III didn't have a Darrell/KellyAnne team.
I feel like this board flip flops sometimes. Everyone was on Darrell's nuts and then when he gets eliminated his haters come out of nowhere and flood the place. Now I feel like Camila's rating has been 95% negative and now that she's (most likely) in the finals, it seems like more people like her. I feel like we need some kind of written stance from users on their profiles as to whether or not they like a certain person so we can stop the flip flopping BS.
That being said, my hope for the finals: (Assuming it's Amanda out)
1st: Nicole
2nd: Ashley M
DNF: Camila
1st: CT
2nd: Cory
Who cares: Nelson
Always will be a Camila fan. I will get the tissues ready for you when she wins.
I don't know what you mean by this, but this is Camila's 9th challenge (out of the 10 challenges that have taken place since her debut) and this is only Camila's third final, and in the other 2 she won one and got third in the other. And the one she won she was with Bananas. And even then didn't they have to come back from behind after CT damn near died on the mountain in Iceland?
You know what? Not even Camila winning can get me down that Bananas is not in the final. I will even trade Camila winning as long as CT wins too. And if Bananas got eliminated by CT/Darrell/Shane then I will need tissues for another reason.
I think people's fans (ie Camila) tend to be silent when they are annoying/underperforming/overexposed. Then when it's discovered they do well, they have no problem showing their love.
Example, I'm not a Cory fan, me and a lot of people were talking shit on him sucking earlier on this board (bc of his basicness, losing to Nate, etc), but now we kind of have to bite our tougue (lol) and all the Cory fans that were silent before (because we have a point with him kind of underperforming last season) came out.
I do agree, I think people should post their faves in their profile. Might do that.
3 of those seasons she was DQ'd/eliminated because of other people tho. That's not her fault.
sadly. hopefully he's there as a lay-up
Interesting....feel like Camila's haters seem to be a little quieter when she's doing well. Like they just make a casual dislike comment towards her. But when she doesn't do well they go hard as hell on her. If Camila got sent him like Marie did first, it would be mentioned every 5 seconds.
Reread what I said, that's exactly what I meant
Oh okay. But they're are certain fans like myself who stan Camila through thick and thin.
Yes and no imo. On one hand, simply saying 3/9 challenges she makes it to the final is not fair to her because of what you mentioned. On the other hand, if Eric didn't quit the elimination, Larissa didn't lose to Jenna, or Tony and Camila get into that "fight", does she make any of those finals? I believe that all 3 of those events were relatively early on in the challenge. My point is that we can't simply discount those and say she made 3/6 finals (I'm not saying you are making this argument for the record)
Futhermore, saying that it isn't her fault may be true from a competitive standpoint, but it might not be entirely accurate. In other words, I can't recall if Camila/Eric were winning the elimination prior to Eric quitting, or if they were going to win the elimination if Eric didn't quit. In addition, Camila does deserve some blame for her role in the Tony "fight". She is an instigator and a drama queen. Hell she's made a career out of it. She's either someone you love or you hate. Now, as much as I can't stand Camila, I don't think that she and Tony should have been kicked off. But if Tony was partnered with literally anybody else, does that "fight" go down the way it does? Let's not act like Camila's personality didn't at least play somewhat of a role in her going home.
Bananas woke Tony up and told him to handle Camila. At that point Camila was calm. This man is twice her size gets in her face and she's at first calm. But when someone is in your face like that and you literally did nothing to them of course you're going to pop off. Are you kidding me!! I didn't see Tony coming at Simone like that. He went after Camila because he thought she was weak. That was all Tony & Bananas for instigating!
This conversation is likely going to go nowhere as you're a Camila stan and I'm a Camila hater, but I will ask you two quick questions.
1. Do you think Camila was 0% responsible for going home?
2. If Tony was partnered with any of the other women in challenge history, in what % of scenarios do you believe that Tony/Random Girl have that "fight" and get sent home?
1. It was not her fault! He went after her! That idiot. If she went home for that cheating incident that would've made more sense.
2. I don't know if Tony would have. For goodness sake this dude got physical with his brother over stupid shit. He didn't go after Simone when she got in his face because I think he was lowkey scared of her. He didn't think anything of Camila and treated her like shit because Bananas does. He literally is Bananas minion.
You should really rewatch that episode.
I don't care if Camilla does well or not. Still can't stand the girl and I'm going to let it be known.
That's all I needed to hear. Thank you. (Edit: Not to DA, he just posted before I could respond)
(On a related note, I would suck whoever's **** I have to to get an ignore feature around here. Admittedly the majority of the people remaining on my screen would be myself and the few people responsible for spoilers)
No. It's because the girl is awful and a problem.
1. Camila is not 0% at fault but she is probably only 10% at fault.
2.Tony has the capability of arguing with ANY woman ever on the show.
Any strong willed woman would stand up for herself if some lunatic that clearly (as shown) has a deep down hate for the girl gets in her face. All he could talk about that night was how much he hated her. She got shoved to the ground and made fun of for getting hurt and nobody even asked if she was ok. Then her partner comes in and starts yelling at her acting all crazy...
Get someone like Nia, Coral, Tonya, Tina, Veronica, Rachel, Robin, Katie, Laurel, Sarah... all of them are going to tell him where he can go and how he can get there. She stood her ground and got loud with him. Most people who have a backbone would do it.
but you're a Camila hater so it's expected of you to think she should have said yes master and looked like a little ***** and kept her mouth shut. But then turn around and talk shit about girls being boring.
Hell even jenna stood up for herself against ******** Devin that season. It's natural reaction to not take shit from people you don't have to take shit from
Right...as if there aren't enough reasons to be annoyed with Camila that have nothing to do with Bananas.
When it comes to Camila you can never be objective so you're opinions are invalid to me.
I was with you except for the 10% at fault and the bolded part. Which Sarah you talking about? Before I jump to conclusions.
My point is that Camila doesn't get a challenge pass because she got sent home because of this "fight". Not only is her explosive personality a contributing factor to the series of events that led to her going home (which I've already said was BS by production), but this was also pretty early on in the game. 6 teams went home after them, so Tony/Camila would have to have beaten those 6 teams plus one of the remaining finals teams in order to get a spot in the final. What is the probability that this happens?
I mean Camila stans can misinterpret my post all they want and turn this into a "girls should be submissive" argument or whatever dumb crap they can think of. It just reinforces my point that a lot of the people here are teenage fanboys and fangirls. I mean I was one of them 10-12 years ago (when I watched Road Rules South Pacific/X-Treme and the challenges from the original Battle of the Sexes until about The Inferno 3 and commented on the mtv.com boards) and I have to say that there isn't a more annoying group of people on the internet than some of those kids. I sincerely hate a lot of you with a passion. I only come here for the spoilers but I occasionally linger with hopes to remind you of how stupid a lot of you are.
For me, I try to give credit where it is due. Camila can get annoying sometimes with her drunk shenanigans but she definitely is a great competitor with a lot of heart who hasn't really been in a great place Challenge and life wise these last few years. I mean come on being on a team with Big Easy, her sister (bless her heart but she is not meant for this show), and the ticking time bomb of Tony in addition to dealing with so many people dying in her life. Her video on YouTube that she posted really reminded me how rough it's been for her but I do hope that she kicks *** this season. It would be a big thing for her to win one after dealing with so much heartache and to prove to others that she can win without John.
As for the others, Cory has only been on two seasons so I feel like we'll be able to get a better judgement of him after this season airs since he was pretty solid on Bloodlines and Rivals 3 but has had some poor showings. Amanda and Nelson did do pretty decently last season but they were only on there for a short amount of time so this season can really prove to us what kind of competitors they are. Cara Maria and John have gone home first before so I feel like someone has to do a few so we can get an overall feel of how they are.
Also, idk where all of this Darrell hate came from tho. He has won 4 of these (and we all know he would've won the ruins if it wasn't for Brad). Him being eliminated this season doesn't automatically mean that he's a flop or anything close to that. Of course I would have loved to see him compete in a modern day final but alas everyone has their ups and downs. After all, Buff Wes' perfect elimination record was broken by tiny Cohutta so who knows how these eliminations will go this season
Omg! This is well said. A sensible comment.
And we will see who breaks Jenna's 5-0 elimination record and Laurel's 8-0 elimination record (same as Wes' record when he faced Cohutta).
I dunno if that will ever happen.
It's on PM.
I don't think I could have responded better than imallergic did in regards to why I like Camila, and why I think she gets a bad rep. I also understand why people don't like her all the time, but I think looking at the whole picture, she's definitely an interesting and likable character for the show.
I will say I do not think she's 0% responsible for the situation with Tony. She was a difficult partner as well for all the reasons listed above, but I think Johnny and especially Tony are to blame. Like imallergic said, she was pushed to the ground and laughed at, then Johnny (a former fling, so it probably stings worse that he's doing this to her) instigates the situation with a beligerent Tony. She's definitely more of a victim with all things considered. I do think Tony could have gone off on another female just like he did her, as he was blacked out and had no control. He's definitely to blame, no matter how much Camila rubbed him the wrong way.
Anyway, in regards to her Challenge record, all I'm saying is that her record is pretty strong considering who she has been partnered with in the past. 3/9 finals is still great. Do I think she and Big Easy could have made the final that season? No. But I think that team was doomed with the guys they were given. Do I think Camila and Larisa could have made the final? No. But again, that's more on Larisa. What I'm saying is she's only technically lost to Laurel&CM, Theresa, and Laurel again for actual losses. 3/9 challenges she lost fair and square, 3/9 challenges she made the final, and 3/9 challenges she's been put in situations where she wasn't gonna make it regardless.
Thanks @ThatCoralLover
And yea I NEED to see this Laurel elimination ASAP. It's actually interesting to see that she's kinda similar to an early Wes in the sense that he made a final, won a final, and the next challenge he went on he finally lost. She obvi has done a few more but she did make finals, won one, and lost her 9th elimination as did he. But I still feel like it's a bit more shocking since Laurel is a giant. She's got the size, endurance, and mental strength that makes her elite. Throwback to both of the times where she pulverized Jasmine LOL
I also hope that Cara, Darrell, Shane, and Jenna's eliminations are good fights as well. If Laurel did eliminate Cara after she declared their "break" on the brain candy, then this shit will get real messy real quick. The Challenge Presents: Laurel argues with Cara, Vol 2343
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