Graphik summed it up perfectly. I'm just frustrated seeing them make a mockery of what made this series great in the first place. We clearly aren't getting what we want so nothing we can do other than complain.
I don't consider it complaining tbh, the shit should be common sense. We do what they get paid to do for free & do a MUCH better job at it, I might add.
After Veronica leaves XXX that's it for me until Champs v.s. Stars and so far that's looking like the Series Finale. Those ************* create whole seasons around trying to keep spoilers from Vevmo (which the Spoiler Team STILL gets anyway >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>) & they bring their ***** on here worried about what PR/Gamer is doing but won't take their ***** to the Fantasy Thread to get some A1 ideas. They clearly don't want this show to do THAT well and quite frankly, I'm too intelligent & much too blunt to keep following the BS lmao so I'll let the casuals the sheeple & the unwillingly complacent have it after the spinoff is over.
How about, instead of casting cast members from other networks, they just start asking cast members who have been wanting to do a challenge for a while. Stop assuming they know who every fan wants. Just because you have a season were many of the production favorites decline, doesn't mean you should avoid other cast people who have said time and time again they want to compete.
How about, instead of casting cast members from other networks, they just start asking cast members who have been wanting to do a challenge for a while.
1. I agree with Graphik. 100% some people who've been watching this show forever just want this show to be what it can be and has had SEVERAL chances to be but it doesn't. They really ****** this show and made it into something it should've never been turned into.
I mean I don't get it. They have the people to make this show good but they don't want to use them, they're "banned" or are a "liability". Part of me really thinks that they don't cast certain people because they don't want threats to their golden children...Backpack/CT/CM. And it's stupid as hell because at this point they really should be trying to phase those ******* out. We got a new generation and those vets can't be on the show forever. Reienvent this show and make the competition better. Focus FULLY on the younger people and have them ride this show into the furture. They can do it...But they have to ween the audience off of their tired *** veterans.
And Furthermore I don't get the issue here? If you don't like the complaining ******* ignore it. Like Graphik said we have a right to *****..especically the people like myself who basically grew up watching this show. Saying "Just don't watch it" ain't gonna solve anything and honestly. THAT is *****ing when you think about it.
The Challenge is basically what WWE is now. Watered down version of what it use to be while having to rely on old schoolers coming back to carry its show.
And both shows don't use the new talent they have to make the show what it can be....
When you look through this thread's history & see how mine & a few other people's VALID, THOUGHTFUL facts opinions still hold weight while others........
So much for those old *** Old-Schoolers not bringing anything to the show
When they incorporated AYTO into the challenge it did kinda work because the theme was Exes but this other shit they got going on season 31 makes no sense. If they wanna incorporate other shows like Big Brother and U.K. people (which U.K. People on this show is just dumb unless the theme is like British Invasion and even then zzzzzz) some sort of team Challenge would be better.
Like Real World & Road Rules (the originals of this franchise) vs. everyone else like The Challenge (Fresh Meat 1, 2, Bloodlines), Are You The One 1-6, Big Brother and Survivor Alumni, Floribama, maybe 90s House, etc.
I could stan this and it makes sense.
insiders vs. outsiders (maybe the Challenge people could be considered insiders) or Contenders vs. Pretenders. Plus it could give us an old school challenge vibe with the theme and teams.
https://twitter.com/jchidleyhill/status/933441437307256832A very good perspective from Wes when he starts talking around the 55th minute mark about Camilla and doing so many shows and how BMP/MTV will end up breaking multiple people (whether they want it or not) just because they are not giving these people mental breaks or the people bascially forcing them to do challenge seasons after seasons for 15+ months straight were you live the challenge even after filming.To me after listening to this interview, i feel like the more people from different networks we get, the better for the actual cast. Them making this show as serious and competitive as they did with Justin Booth making this a military boot camp and them doing so many longer seasons now in a row and( it looks like they will do many more), we will soon have another Camilla situation and once this is all set and done people like Bananas, Cara, Tony, Cory, Jenna who keep doing these many reality shows in a row, will have big problems coming there way. Not only financially, but also a big impact in their real life socially long term. I hope MTV changes something and uses people like Bananas, Cara or some as reunion hosts or recaps. I mean Bananas already is said to take stimulants and the guy will end up in a bad place soon and the writing is on the wall as Wes said it.
https://twitter.com/jchidleyhill/status/933441437307256832A very good perspective from Wes when he starts talking around the 55th minute mark about Camilla and doing so many shows and how BMP/MTV will end up breaking multiple people (whether they want it or not) just because they are not giving these people mental breaks or the people bascially forcing them to do challenge seasons after seasons for 15+ months straight were you live the challenge even after filming.To me after listening to this interview, i feel like the more people from different networks we get, the better for the actual cast. Them making this show as serious and competitive as they did with Justin Booth making this a military boot camp and them doing so many longer seasons now in a row and( it looks like they will do many more), we will soon have another Camilla situation and once this is all set and done people like Bananas, Cara, Tony, Cory, Jenna who keep doing these many reality shows in a row, will have big problems coming there way. Not only financially, but also a big impact in their real life socially long term. I hope MTV changes something and uses people like Bananas, Cara or some as reunion hosts or recaps. I mean Bananas already is said to take stimulants and the guy will end up in a bad place soon and the writing is on the wall as Wes said it.
MTV is not going to do anything but bleed these people dry like they've been doing. They don't give a damn about these people, they're just footage to make money off of and that's it. Like Wes said These people need to take personal responsibility and help themselves and decide when enough is enough. Otherwise They're going to be in for a lot of pain and suffering and it'll all be THEIR fault. MTV/BMP is not responsible for these people's decisions they make and the things that they do.
And anyone acting like The Challenge is some fun vacation is just plain wrong. It's basically a mental ward set in a nice *** house in the middle of nowhere. This has kinda been know but it needed to be said again so all these people talking about "WELL THEY'RE ON A VACATION MAKING MONIES!!!!111" can be silenced. Things aren't always what they seem and this is just another example of that.
I agree with you both, but personal accountability also has to be taken into account. These people literally act like telling production "NO" for a season or two then coming back well-rested & mentally balanced is equal to a sword going through their heart.
I agree with you both, but personal accountability also has to be taken into account. These people literally act like telling production "NO" for a season or two then coming back well-rested & mentally balanced is equal to a sword going through their heart.
Yep. And that's ultimatley what's going to **** these people up if they don't chill.
I really hope there's a Rivals 4 just because the cast could be phenomenal. Just considering the guys alone you could have CT/Frank, Bananas/Wes, Jordan/Hunter, Darrell/Cory
I agree with you both, but personal accountability also has to be taken into account. These people literally act like telling production "NO" for a season or two then coming back well-rested & mentally balanced is equal to a sword going through their heart.
Yep. And that's ultimatley what's going to **** these people up if they don't chill.
I mean for most of these super vets (other than CT and Bananas who according to Sarah/Susie sign multi-season deals including spinoffs) production keep asking them many times and offering them more money to the point where you get a years salary just to show up.
Graphik wrote:I agree with you both, but personal accountability also has to be taken into account. These people literally act like telling production "NO" for a season or two then coming back well-rested & mentally balanced is equal to a sword going through their heart.
Yep. And that's ultimatley what's going to **** these people up if they don't chill.
I mean for most of these super vets (other than CT and Bananas who according to Sarah/Susie sign multi-season deals including spinoffs) production keep asking them many times and offering them more money to the point where you get a years salary just to show up.
I understand that but your sanity is more important than money.
Ughhh I'm so annoyed Wes wasn't on Dirty 30. He + the Young Bucks Alliance would have definitely changed the game. But what did we get instead? ZZZerrick "I follow what Johnny wants" Kosinski.
Im dead at you going from being a fan to basically dragging Derrick now lmao
Ughhh I'm so annoyed Wes wasn't on Dirty 30. He + the Young Bucks Alliance would have definitely changed the game. But what did we get instead? ZZZerrick "I follow what Johnny wants" Kosinski.
Im dead at you going from being a fan to basically dragging Derrick now lmao
Ughhh I'm so annoyed Wes wasn't on Dirty 30. He + the Young Bucks Alliance would have definitely changed the game. But what did we get instead? ZZZerrick "I follow what Johnny wants" Kosinski.
Im dead at you going from being a fan to basically dragging Derrick now lmao
lol he was just boring this season. Debut has said it before but Hunter is pretty much the new Derrick now. CT/Tony/Darrell also took the "I'm winning for my kids" role already and Leroy is John's best friend already. Derrick was redundant this season. Wes would have easily made it more interesting than what Derrick brought.
I was always a much bigger Darrell fan than Derrick anyways. I was just excited Old Schoolers were being brought back but Derrick was disappointing to me.
I need Landon to come back (at least on the spin off show) though.
I don't consider it complaining tbh, the shit should be common sense. We do what they get paid to do for free & do a MUCH better job at it, I might add.
After Veronica leaves XXX that's it for me until Champs v.s. Stars and so far that's looking like the Series Finale. Those ************* create whole seasons around trying to keep spoilers from Vevmo (which the Spoiler Team STILL gets anyway >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>) & they bring their ***** on here worried about what PR/Gamer is doing but won't take their ***** to the Fantasy Thread to get some A1 ideas. They clearly don't want this show to do THAT well and quite frankly, I'm too intelligent & much too blunt to keep following the BS lmao so I'll let the casuals the sheeple & the unwillingly complacent have it after the spinoff is over.
In the words of Nene Leakes..., "I SAID WHAT I SAID!" and I'm not taking it back. #CancellationPlease
And if you're so pressed K-12 ignore this thread and take your "joy" to the Challenge 31 thread with the few others ☺️
How about, instead of casting cast members from other networks, they just start asking cast members who have been wanting to do a challenge for a while. Stop assuming they know who every fan wants. Just because you have a season were many of the production favorites decline, doesn't mean you should avoid other cast people who have said time and time again they want to compete.
Straight like that.
”our hopes for the future”
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1. I agree with Graphik. 100% some people who've been watching this show forever just want this show to be what it can be and has had SEVERAL chances to be but it doesn't. They really ****** this show and made it into something it should've never been turned into.
I mean I don't get it. They have the people to make this show good but they don't want to use them, they're "banned" or are a "liability". Part of me really thinks that they don't cast certain people because they don't want threats to their golden children...Backpack/CT/CM. And it's stupid as hell because at this point they really should be trying to phase those ******* out. We got a new generation and those vets can't be on the show forever. Reienvent this show and make the competition better. Focus FULLY on the younger people and have them ride this show into the furture. They can do it...But they have to ween the audience off of their tired *** veterans.
This show...
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And Furthermore I don't get the issue here? If you don't like the complaining ******* ignore it. Like Graphik said we have a right to *****..especically the people like myself who basically grew up watching this show. Saying "Just don't watch it" ain't gonna solve anything and honestly. THAT is *****ing when you think about it.
And both shows don't use the new talent they have to make the show what it can be....
When you look through this thread's history & see how mine & a few other people's VALID, THOUGHTFUL
factsopinions still hold weight while others........So much for those old *** Old-Schoolers not bringing anything to the show
When they incorporated AYTO into the challenge it did kinda work because the theme was Exes but this other shit they got going on season 31 makes no sense. If they wanna incorporate other shows like Big Brother and U.K. people (which U.K. People on this show is just dumb unless the theme is like British Invasion and even then zzzzzz) some sort of team Challenge would be better.
Like Real World & Road Rules (the originals of this franchise) vs. everyone else like The Challenge (Fresh Meat 1, 2, Bloodlines), Are You The One 1-6, Big Brother and Survivor Alumni, Floribama, maybe 90s House, etc.
I could stan this and it makes sense.
insiders vs. outsiders (maybe the Challenge people could be considered insiders) or Contenders vs. Pretenders. Plus it could give us an old school challenge vibe with the theme and teams.
Can I report you for posting rl pix of me without my consent or?
https://twitter.com/jchidleyhill/status/933441437307256832A very good perspective from Wes when he starts talking around the 55th minute mark about Camilla and doing so many shows and how BMP/MTV will end up breaking multiple people (whether they want it or not) just because they are not giving these people mental breaks or the people bascially forcing them to do challenge seasons after seasons for 15+ months straight were you live the challenge even after filming.To me after listening to this interview, i feel like the more people from different networks we get, the better for the actual cast. Them making this show as serious and competitive as they did with Justin Booth making this a military boot camp and them doing so many longer seasons now in a row and( it looks like they will do many more), we will soon have another Camilla situation and once this is all set and done people like Bananas, Cara, Tony, Cory, Jenna who keep doing these many reality shows in a row, will have big problems coming there way. Not only financially, but also a big impact in their real life socially long term. I hope MTV changes something and uses people like Bananas, Cara or some as reunion hosts or recaps. I mean Bananas already is said to take stimulants and the guy will end up in a bad place soon and the writing is on the wall as Wes said it.
MTV is not going to do anything but bleed these people dry like they've been doing. They don't give a damn about these people, they're just footage to make money off of and that's it. Like Wes said These people need to take personal responsibility and help themselves and decide when enough is enough. Otherwise They're going to be in for a lot of pain and suffering and it'll all be THEIR fault. MTV/BMP is not responsible for these people's decisions they make and the things that they do.
And anyone acting like The Challenge is some fun vacation is just plain wrong. It's basically a mental ward set in a nice *** house in the middle of nowhere. This has kinda been know but it needed to be said again so all these people talking about "WELL THEY'RE ON A VACATION MAKING MONIES!!!!111" can be silenced. Things aren't always what they seem and this is just another example of that.
I agree with you both, but personal accountability also has to be taken into account. These people literally act like telling production "NO" for a season or two then coming back well-rested & mentally balanced is equal to a sword going through their heart.
Yep. And that's ultimatley what's going to **** these people up if they don't chill.
I really hope there's a Rivals 4 just because the cast could be phenomenal. Just considering the guys alone you could have CT/Frank, Bananas/Wes, Jordan/Hunter, Darrell/Cory
I mean for most of these super vets (other than CT and Bananas who according to Sarah/Susie sign multi-season deals including spinoffs) production keep asking them many times and offering them more money to the point where you get a years salary just to show up.
Ughhh I'm so annoyed Wes wasn't on Dirty 30. He + the Young Bucks Alliance would have definitely changed the game.
But what did we get instead? ZZZerrick "I follow what Johnny wants" Kosinski.
I understand that but your sanity is more important than money.
Im dead at you going from being a fan to basically dragging Derrick now lmao
Derrick hasn't been shit since Duel tbh. I'm glad it seems they lost his number once again.
I'm still dead at Leroy being like "I'm a dirty player because I ride the vet's coattails". Like boy do you like embarrassing yourself?
lol he was just boring this season. Debut has said it before but Hunter is pretty much the new Derrick now. CT/Tony/Darrell also took the "I'm winning for my kids" role already and Leroy is John's best friend already. Derrick was redundant this season. Wes would have easily made it more interesting than what Derrick brought.
I was always a much bigger Darrell fan than Derrick anyways. I was just excited Old Schoolers were being brought back but Derrick was disappointing to me.
I need Landon to come back (at least on the spin off show) though.
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