She's 3-3 for elims, she's 0-5 for wins, and 3 out of her 5 seasons was one of the first people to leave.
The whole "skull twist" is going to cause people to go home earlier than they typically would in the past. And the only other time she went home earlier was because Derrick was asboluetly useless. She has wins over Georgia and Jenny which is about as impressive as anyone currently on the show. If people were saying she was "elite" it would be different but she's a threat and we all know she's a threat. She's shown that. 5 challenges without a win pretty much means nothing in this era.
lol Derrick wasn't useless in that elimination
Was Derrick smart enough to help her like Joss was with Sylvia. With both know the answer. Next you're going to say Derrick isn't an awful competitor.
no with don't. I never said he was a good competitor but he definitely wasn't useless in the elimination lol . Should he have helped her? Yes but lol at putting all the blame on him
Because if he would have done what Joss did they would have won easily but he didn't costing them the elimination.
again that doesn't make him useless. He got up there, she didn't. How Tori not making it up there makes DERRICK useless is throwing me.
It does because it's a partner elimination--if you can't comprehend how to win as a team you're not doing anything useful. Joss was the reason they won--Derrick was the reason they lost. It's that simply.
again that doesn't make him useless. He got up there, she didn't. How Tori not making it up there makes DERRICK useless is throwing me.
It does because it's a partner elimination--if you can't comprehend how to win as a team you're not doing anything useful. Joss was the reason they won--Derrick was the reason they lost. It's that simply.
it didn't require you to rely on your partner though lol. Just say you hate Derrick and Tori can do no wrong and move on because I'm not about to talk to a brick wall.
Theresa doesn't tout herself as the greatest thing in the world, whereas Tori thinks she is Gods gift to humanity.
No she doesn't. You guys are making this into something it isn't because you don't like Tori. And thats fine you don't have to like Tori or anyone else but when you can't give someone credit or make up nonsense all it does it show your bias
Tori's not elite. Tori is a threat who could eventually win but not once has Tori ever indicated that she's the best. Not once.
Honestly she's playing the role BMP/MTV wants her to play. Being mad about that is illogical
again that doesn't make him useless. He got up there, she didn't. How Tori not making it up there makes DERRICK useless is throwing me.
It does because it's a partner elimination--if you can't comprehend how to win as a team you're not doing anything useful. Joss was the reason they won--Derrick was the reason they lost. It's that simply.
it didn't require you to rely on your partner though lol. Just say you hate Derrick and Tori can do no wrong and move on because I'm not about to talk to a brick wall.
Tori has a lot of things wrong. She played an absolute awful social game this season. One of the worst I've ever seen. I like Derrick as a person but he was an awful competitor. Absolutely awful.
She's 3-3 for elims, she's 0-5 for wins, and 3 out of her 5 seasons was one of the first people to leave.
Theresa is 2-6 for elims and 0-6 for wins with only 1 final but everyone knows she's still really good. Challenge stats aren't all that meaningful.
Thersea's losses were largely due to her partners, tori lost hers individually so that doesn't apply hon
Theresa like Sarah got screwed with partners and twists at times but you're making this more than it is. Most girls would take Tori's 2 finals and 3 elimination wins in a heartbeat over 5 seasons.
All this Tori hate is just going to keep her getting cast lol this is legit turning into the Cara hate a couple years ago lol so exaggerated when Tori isn't even that special.
All this Tori hate is just going to keep her getting cast lol this is legit turning into the Cara hate a couple years ago lol so exaggerated when Tori isn't even that special.
Lol at thinking we aren't getting tori brought back regardless, they clearly want her to be a face of the show and gave her a podcast
All this Tori hate is just going to keep her getting cast lol this is legit turning into the Cara hate a couple years ago lol so exaggerated when Tori isn't even that special.
Lol at thinking we aren't getting tori brought back regardless, they clearly want her to be a face of the show and gave her a podcast
Right and why do you think they want her to be the face of the show for the foreseeable future? If she sucks as much as you claim and brings nothing then why?
Because she's good for hopping on some **** during filming.
At least Cara was winning seasons when she was "hated"
Tori is just full of herself and everyone gasses her up which makes the losses look terrible when they happen.
Cara's first 5 season--went home first (something that Tori has never done) with Darrell as a partner--DARRELL, had Abe carry her to a final while only beating Mandi, partner with Laurel and made a final--LAUREL, Exes went home midway with Abram--ABRAM and did horrible on Seasons. Put Tori with those partners on those seasons as her first 5 and how does she do? Imagine Darrell/Tori or Laurel/Tori as a pair....
I think everyone needs to open their mind and realize that even if they hate someone they can be a good competitor - is Tori one of the all time top females? No. Is she a good competitor - yes. She's not a flop - plus the last two seasons stronger people have gone home early due to the gold skull twist (which I really hope this is the final season for that...). There are plenty of cast members over the years I can't stand but I can admit they are a good competitor - let your minds be open lol
Because if he would have done what Joss did they would have won easily but he didn't costing them the elimination.
@Kvm
again that doesn't make him useless. He got up there, she didn't. How Tori not making it up there makes DERRICK useless is throwing me.
****, tori definitely flopped in that elimination on her own. she got outperformed by sylvia, no way around it
Toris best chance of winning was with Jordan.... If she couldn't do with him... Idk when she will.
Tori ******* sucks
Case closed we're not having this argument again
Tori was cast as the pretty young narrator but now that we have Big T her role is filled in my opinion
It does because it's a partner elimination--if you can't comprehend how to win as a team you're not doing anything useful. Joss was the reason they won--Derrick was the reason they lost. It's that simply.
Theresa is 2-6 for elims and 0-6 for wins with only 1 final but everyone knows she's still really good. Challenge stats aren't all that meaningful.
Theresa doesn't tout herself as the greatest thing in the world, whereas Tori thinks she is Gods gift to humanity.
yes they are. no one considered theresa a threat until free agents, which is also her firet elimination win.
it didn't require you to rely on your partner though lol. Just say you hate Derrick and Tori can do no wrong and move on because I'm not about to talk to a brick wall.
No she doesn't. You guys are making this into something it isn't because you don't like Tori. And thats fine you don't have to like Tori or anyone else but when you can't give someone credit or make up nonsense all it does it show your bias
Tori's not elite. Tori is a threat who could eventually win but not once has Tori ever indicated that she's the best. Not once.
Honestly she's playing the role BMP/MTV wants her to play. Being mad about that is illogical
Tbh she's replaceable and imo opinion as nothing to the show than a corny narrator who isn't funny oh and she's borderline brolic
Tori has a lot of things wrong. She played an absolute awful social game this season. One of the worst I've ever seen. I like Derrick as a person but he was an awful competitor. Absolutely awful.
but u can be mad and discredit people at ur own convenience. bye yt man, I dont need ur permission
Thersea's losses were largely due to her partners, tori lost hers individually so that doesn't apply hon
Theresa like Sarah got screwed with partners and twists at times but you're making this more than it is. Most girls would take Tori's 2 finals and 3 elimination wins in a heartbeat over 5 seasons.
Two finals which resulted in two last place finishes
Yes let's give it up for Miss Tori " I'm so better than every rookie " Deal
The quote is further proof you're just making up stuff
All this Tori hate is just going to keep her getting cast lol this is legit turning into the Cara hate a couple years ago lol so exaggerated when Tori isn't even that special.
Lol at thinking we aren't getting tori brought back regardless, they clearly want her to be a face of the show and gave her a podcast
Right and why do you think they want her to be the face of the show for the foreseeable future? If she sucks as much as you claim and brings nothing then why?
Because she's good for hopping on some **** during filming.
At least Cara was winning seasons when she was "hated"
Tori is just full of herself and everyone gasses her up which makes the losses look terrible when they happen.
Cara's first 5 season--went home first (something that Tori has never done) with Darrell as a partner--DARRELL, had Abe carry her to a final while only beating Mandi, partner with Laurel and made a final--LAUREL, Exes went home midway with Abram--ABRAM and did horrible on Seasons. Put Tori with those partners on those seasons as her first 5 and how does she do? Imagine Darrell/Tori or Laurel/Tori as a pair....
I think that person meant Cara was cocky at a point where she was winning things. Tori has 0 championships and acts as if she has 10
Im speechless
I think everyone needs to open their mind and realize that even if they hate someone they can be a good competitor - is Tori one of the all time top females? No. Is she a good competitor - yes. She's not a flop - plus the last two seasons stronger people have gone home early due to the gold skull twist (which I really hope this is the final season for that...). There are plenty of cast members over the years I can't stand but I can admit they are a good competitor - let your minds be open lol
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