Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
It doesn't matter how many are on the cast. Skye is giving Tory & Devon the names and as Pinky said they are pregamming hard. The Challenge cast is dumb and will play as their lackeys and all get played. The few that see through their game won't have the numbers and will leave early. TORY AND DEVON ARE GOING TO RUN THIS WITH THE VACAY ALLIANCE AND THE REST ARE TOO DUMB TO STOP IT!
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
Are you stuck on repeat ? Pr literally said it wasn't just vacation alliance and minions and yall just keep saying it over and over. A season with all vets isn't the same anyway so obviously the vets can't all team up together. The vacation alliance is thing that all vets have done for like a decade. We literally see it happening on 39 that a group of people working together to control house they know each other lol. Wasn't Jordan working with them on 38 ? wasn't Bananas ? wasn't Nelson ? Wasn't Ct on 37? its literally just vets sticking together to remove rookies. I feel like yall brains wont acept that its just vets working until Pr and Gamer say its just vets working together.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
Are you stuck on repeat ? Pr literally said it wasn't just vacation alliance and minions and yall just keep saying it over and over. A season with all vets isn't the same anyway so obviously the vets can't all team up together. The vacation alliance is thing that all vets have done for like a decade. We literally see it happening on 39 that a group of people working together to control house they know each other lol. Wasn't Jordan working with them on 38 ? wasn't Bananas ? wasn't Nelson ? Wasn't Ct on 37? its literally just vets sticking together to remove rookies. I feel like yall brains wont acept that its just vets working until Pr and Gamer say its just vets working together.
Correct--the vacation alliance isn't any different than every season prior to their arrival. Vets always align. Sometimes they may target other vets early but there's always been a core.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
It doesn't matter how many are on the cast. Skye is giving Tory & Devon the names and as Pinky said they are pregamming hard. The Challenge cast is dumb and will play as their lackeys and all get played. The few that see through their game won't have the numbers and will leave early. TORY AND DEVON ARE GOING TO RUN THIS WITH THE VACAY ALLIANCE AND THE REST ARE TOO DUMB TO STOP IT!
Everyone is pregaming. If they're not they're idiots. You can't just show up. You call everyone that may be going. Going against power is rarely smart. You align with them then make a move when it makes sense. Coming out of the gates hard never works. Ask Cory and Amanda.
The only way to get vets to target each other is when you cast a majority of vets who don't trust each other.
Look at FR, WOTW, or WOTW2, rookies faced some strife but once that was cleared up the vets targeted each other because they hated each other.
Amber, Michele, and Amanda are simply not enough opposition in the grand scheme. You need people willing to politic against the main alliance that can ALSO win things.
That isn't me saying Amber can't win eliminations and Michele/Amanda have won dailies before.
But, you need to be smart about casting people who can and will make power moves, while also playing politics. This is why someone like Cara fits so well she can do all three. A lot of people who only check off some boxes without anyone to bring them together means they'll be playing aimlessly making ********* moves.
We need more Cara's and laurels on this season aka girls who can handle most of these flops in an elimination and a final!
Laurel is going to work with them ****.
but she can beat them that's the point. We don't need losers who align with them and can't take them out or win when need too
But is that enough though? Because, if we're seeing the same people all season with Laurel maybe winning the final, I'm not that pressed for her to win again.
That's why I didn't care about Kaliah leaving first on RoD either. She was just going to float on the bottom of that majority alliance until she went in and lost. But, at least she could've taken out a less interesting team.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
Are you stuck on repeat ? Pr literally said it wasn't just vacation alliance and minions and yall just keep saying it over and over. A season with all vets isn't the same anyway so obviously the vets can't all team up together. The vacation alliance is thing that all vets have done for like a decade. We literally see it happening on 39 that a group of people working together to control house they know each other lol. Wasn't Jordan working with them on 38 ? wasn't Bananas ? wasn't Nelson ? Wasn't Ct on 37? its literally just vets sticking together to remove rookies. I feel like yall brains wont acept that its just vets working until Pr and Gamer say its just vets working together.
You're delusional if you think at least 14 of the Vacation Alliance goons won't be on this.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
Are you stuck on repeat ? Pr literally said it wasn't just vacation alliance and minions and yall just keep saying it over and over. A season with all vets isn't the same anyway so obviously the vets can't all team up together. The vacation alliance is thing that all vets have done for like a decade. We literally see it happening on 39 that a group of people working together to control house they know each other lol. Wasn't Jordan working with them on 38 ? wasn't Bananas ? wasn't Nelson ? Wasn't Ct on 37? its literally just vets sticking together to remove rookies. I feel like yall brains wont acept that its just vets working until Pr and Gamer say its just vets working together.
You're delusional if you think at least 14 of the Vacation Alliance goons won't be on this.
Who the **** is the Vacation Alliance in your mind that they'd have "at least 14"?
This is JEK had 30 people simply because sometimes people determined it was best to work with one or more of them.
The problem in this era is there isn't any strong outsiders who can contest the majority group. We had this in older seasons. An example would be Evelyn in the island. We don't have people like her who will go after the majority and not give a flying f.
The problem in this era is there isn't any strong outsiders who can contest the majority group. We had this in older seasons. An example would be Evelyn in the island. We don't have people like her who will go after the majority and not give a flying f.
That's not even a good example cause she ended up folding herself ****.
They are right. This game has always had a core group running things. I don't know why people are upset lmaooo.
We loved FR when TYB & LL had all the power. It's just the way the game goes.
the issue with the Vacation Alliance, at least for me, isn't how they play (that's not new).
But, every season from Invasion to DA had power shifts in the majority. TYB & LL were up one season and absent/down the next.
It's just a bit boring to go from allegiances shifting by season to a predictable group of vets. I'd help more if they were fun to watch but even the semi-interesting ones are tame now.
The problem in this era is there isn't any strong outsiders who can contest the majority group. We had this in older seasons. An example would be Evelyn in the island. We don't have people like her who will go after the majority and not give a flying f.
Yes, this is true but many here also want to see people that aren't good competitors show up then get mad when there aren't good competitors to beat Tori or Kaycee or anyone else.
The problem in this era is there isn't any strong outsiders who can contest the majority group. We had this in older seasons. An example would be Evelyn in the island. We don't have people like her who will go after the majority and not give a flying f.
That's not even a good example cause she ended up folding herself ****.
Stupid Kenny making that deal with her when he was going to win regardless.
Once again, I'm just asking for a big cast. Because the Vacation Alliance + minions eating 16 spots is a lot more tolerable on a 38-40 person cast versus a 32 person cast.
It doesn't matter how many are on the cast. Skye is giving Tory & Devon the names and as Pinky said they are pregamming hard. The Challenge cast is dumb and will play as their lackeys and all get played. The few that see through their game won't have the numbers and will leave early. TORY AND DEVON ARE GOING TO RUN THIS WITH THE VACAY ALLIANCE AND THE REST ARE TOO DUMB TO STOP IT!
Makes me think the vacay freaks are paying their minions to join them bc there's just no way
Are you stuck on repeat ? Pr literally said it wasn't just vacation alliance and minions and yall just keep saying it over and over. A season with all vets isn't the same anyway so obviously the vets can't all team up together. The vacation alliance is thing that all vets have done for like a decade. We literally see it happening on 39 that a group of people working together to control house they know each other lol. Wasn't Jordan working with them on 38 ? wasn't Bananas ? wasn't Nelson ? Wasn't Ct on 37? its literally just vets sticking together to remove rookies. I feel like yall brains wont acept that its just vets working until Pr and Gamer say its just vets working together.
Correct--the vacation alliance isn't any different than every season prior to their arrival. Vets always align. Sometimes they may target other vets early but there's always been a core.
Everyone is pregaming. If they're not they're idiots. You can't just show up. You call everyone that may be going. Going against power is rarely smart. You align with them then make a move when it makes sense. Coming out of the gates hard never works. Ask Cory and Amanda.
The only way to get vets to target each other is when you cast a majority of vets who don't trust each other.
Look at FR, WOTW, or WOTW2, rookies faced some strife but once that was cleared up the vets targeted each other because they hated each other.
Amber, Michele, and Amanda are simply not enough opposition in the grand scheme. You need people willing to politic against the main alliance that can ALSO win things.
We need more Cara's and laurels on this season aka girls who can handle most of these flops in an elimination and a final!
That isn't me saying Amber can't win eliminations and Michele/Amanda have won dailies before.
But, you need to be smart about casting people who can and will make power moves, while also playing politics. This is why someone like Cara fits so well she can do all three. A lot of people who only check off some boxes without anyone to bring them together means they'll be playing aimlessly making ********* moves.
Laurel is going to work with them ****.
It will be run be the Vacation Alliance and minions. Guaranteed. The cast is too dumb and scared to stop it.
but she can beat them that's the point. We don't need losers who align with them and can't take them out or win when need too
Oh Emanuel wasn't called?
But is that enough though? Because, if we're seeing the same people all season with Laurel maybe winning the final, I'm not that pressed for her to win again.
That's why I didn't care about Kaliah leaving first on RoD either. She was just going to float on the bottom of that majority alliance until she went in and lost. But, at least she could've taken out a less interesting team.
We won!
Laurel can work with who she pleases. She can body tori, wildebeesa, and gaycee all at once if she had to.
If Laurel doesn't get eliminated for some strange reason then she's definitely winning 40
You're delusional if you think at least 14 of the Vacation Alliance goons won't be on this.
Maybe they shouldn't be casting people incapable of beating them???
Who the **** is the Vacation Alliance in your mind that they'd have "at least 14"?
This is JEK had 30 people simply because sometimes people determined it was best to work with one or more of them.
I wish Nia didn't become boring. She's laurel's height and is a physical threat.
They are right. This game has always had a core group running things. I don't know why people are upset lmaooo.
We loved FR when TYB & LL had all the power. It's just the way the game goes.
**** Nia is not boring, she's just matured. AS3 was really no different than her other seasons, except she didn't read the whole house.
Nia always starts off slow, then as the season progresses, she gets more and more out of her shell.
She had a hookup, was involved in the game, had beef with Sylvia & Kailah and did the best in the final (per points).
I loved when Coral and Veronica controlled the game. I can't complain just because I don't like people.
I do think a season of teams made up of alliances having to vote in their friends would be great but casting isn't that creative.
The problem in this era is there isn't any strong outsiders who can contest the majority group. We had this in older seasons. An example would be Evelyn in the island. We don't have people like her who will go after the majority and not give a flying f.
Nia was boring but it was my favorite season of Nia because she wasn't being ridiculous for attention
That's not even a good example cause she ended up folding herself ****.
the issue with the Vacation Alliance, at least for me, isn't how they play (that's not new).
But, every season from Invasion to DA had power shifts in the majority. TYB & LL were up one season and absent/down the next.
It's just a bit boring to go from allegiances shifting by season to a predictable group of vets. I'd help more if they were fun to watch but even the semi-interesting ones are tame now.
Yes, this is true but many here also want to see people that aren't good competitors show up then get mad when there aren't good competitors to beat Tori or Kaycee or anyone else.
Stupid Kenny making that deal with her when he was going to win regardless.
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