The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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Episode 1 & 2 Cast Rankings:

OHHHHH. HELLLLL. NOOOOO. 

 

Episode 1 & 2 Cast Rankings:

OHHHHH. HELLLLL. NOOOOO. 

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Okay. My biggest complaint right now is why wasn't Genesis brought in after Janelle quit?!?! We were ROBBED

Where can I watch episode 2 for free? I don't want to waste my money for nothing again on paramount +

Did you ever pay for P+ in the past?  If so try and see if it still works. I signed up before All Stars 3 and let my subscription expire and it still works to this day. It ran out shortly after AS3 finished airing. 

I finally watched all of it. And whew. I wish production didn't edit things out because that was weirdly and badly edited IMO. They tried way too hard to hide that other things were the catalyst of Janelle's quit and it was very meh. 

Favorites:

Men - Steve, Kefla, Adam

Women - Kam, Flora, Jasmine, Laurel

Seeing Tyrie go first was hard, but was happy Steve stayed. Janelle going so hard to then back out and quit was so lame. She really let Ayanna get in her head so hard.

I love Ayanna, but that was very tryhard of her. It wasn't even funny? It was corny af.

Averey was the biggest surprise for me the first 2 episodes. She had great energy, gave great confessionals, and didn't let the mean girls intimidate her. She should have returned on Dirty 30 and she would likely have become the face of the show over a certain freak.

Averey was the biggest surprise for me the first 2 episodes. She had great energy, gave great confessionals, and didn't let the mean girls intimidate her. She should have returned on Dirty 30 and she would likely have become the face of the show over a certain freak.

Queen <3

Whst actually happened with Janelle? I read an article that quoted both her and jasmine's social media saying it was edited and didn't show everything. Do we know?

Whst actually happened with Janelle? I read an article that quoted both her and jasmine's social media saying it was edited and didn't show everything. Do we know?

Literally what the whole thread is about

Well technically we don't know and won't know unless we see footage. So it's just by word of mouth now.

Wasn't Piggy supposed to be on one of these seasons?

 

Whst actually happened with Janelle? I read an article that quoted both her and jasmine's social media saying it was edited and didn't show everything. Do we know?

Literally what the whole thread is about

??? i see no specifics so I'm not sure. 

Wasn't Piggy supposed to be on one of these seasons?

I hope we see Piggy again! She was great on Battle Of the Seasons

It was weird watching knowing what really went on.  It was edited bad but they may as well have shown it because they still showed Ayanna in a negative way. I thought that since she was sick with cancer now that we would've gotten a much more edited version to save her reputation but we saw her being mean, petty and crazy still. If they were going to do that and not save face may as well shown the whole thing. 

Okay. My biggest complaint right now is why wasn't Genesis brought in after Janelle quit?!?! We were ROBBED

Apparently Genesis was on location as well. That really sucks.

They weren't going to bring on an alt when the person who quit was already in elim. See: Arissa and Melinda. 

On AS-3 they only brought in Beth because Jeymme left after Tina was already medically removed.

Assuming this thread is for all episodes?

Assuming this thread is for all episodes?

Yes!!! I like this better than individual episodes.

Episode's up!

Thoughts:

Wow, Tony was weirdly vague about why he had to leave.

Clearly, the Mean Girls are the ones feeding Ayanna's fire. That much is clear.

Syrus is back! Just in time for a double elimination.

Wow, Adam and Averey DOMINATED that daily. Adam calling Averey: "Wonder Woman", cute!!!

Oh shit, Flora's starting up some DRAMA!

Is Ayanna wearing a trash bag? LOL

Mama Kam heard Ayanna talking shit!

It's heating up quick! Jasmine looks like a 12 year old arguing with her mom LOL.

Brad bought brownies and cookies to the fight!

Ayanna running out of the room holding Rachel's hand.

Brandon running the deliberation!

Ace REALLY doing his best not to get a callback.

****, Kam is running the game.

Kefla is a **  cking MONSTER. Syrus had NO CHANCE.

Rachel weathered Ayanna's 2 minute storm and dominated that elimination.

Rachel stealing Tina's star instead of Cara just put a HUGE TARGET on the Mean Girls + Cara.

We get to see the seeds of the Averey/Adam relationship. 

Tony was super vague about why he had to leave. I was wondering if he was going to say Shane's name but nope. 

OMG Ayanna going off on KillA Kam and the face Kam makes?  These newbies weren't ready for the drama the OGs bring!  "Is this what Killa Kam does?" I can't!

The way Ayanna knows who threw her under the bus and is obliterating them one by one!!!  OMG this is some good shit!!!

24 minutes in and this is the best episode of the Challenge in 7 years. And they want to go and ruin it with that bull shit All Stars 5 cast? 

Ok I'm just going to say it I've never liked Kam and she's getting on my nerves again. Mad because Cara doesn't want to vote in Rachel. Girl who died and made you queen?

How dare Ryan try and make an old age home joke when he's looking close to his 50s himself. 

Once again this season is sooooo good!  Kefla just made me LOL literally when he got that Charlie Horse and started ******* the air to "Like A Virgin". First elimination victory!  Get out these people actually have personality, I love it. 

lol @ Ayanna calling out Kam during the elimination "Kam you want me gone come do it yourself". The new school would never. Kam is still talking about Rachel playing a scared game now?  Blah blah blah. Girl bye. Kam is the first piece in All Stars being ruined I'm calling it now. 

Thoughts on Episode 3

  • I'm digging these recaps by the cast members
  • I've never liked Tony so I'm not upset to see him out without much fanfare, but I do hope whatever was going on with his family resolved itself (was it ever confirmed what happened?)
  • The legit old school vibe is soooo good. Showing the cast members hanging out and having one-on-ones with each other is awesome.
  • This daily also felt old school with the dominoes not being super intense and focusing more on mental maths and what not. 
  • Of course Brad is confused and doesn't get it.
  • Jay and Nicole didn't do too shabby. Kind of enjoying Jay this season (never saw his RW season and didn't watch BOTE2 completely)
  • Some of these pairings seemed like fanfiction: Ace/Cara Maria, Leroy/Flora, Adam/Averey
  • Surprised that Adam and Averey won
  • Ayanna came in too confident after AS2 
  • If anyone from AYTO deserves to be on All Stars, it's definitely Kam. I think I've only seen her on Champs vs. Stars 2, so she was only in like two episodes.
  • This is the kind of drama I live for - when it spirals out of control and to the whole house.
  • Syrus and Ayanna both directly addressing the camera during the episode is great
  • Old school Jasmine coming back!
  • I don't like that Rachel and Tina were backing Ayanna through this. I guess the Road Rules ties are strong
  • Rachel and Cara Maria as a duo is a force to be reckoned with
  • Syrus and Kefla getting voted in immediately is so sad but funny
  • Cara Maria going into business for herself isn't surprising
  • This isn't how eliminations would go in the JEK era (and that's a good thing), but four legit OG vets going in on episode 3 would never have happened. 
  • This elimination is like Hall Brawl with a buffer ball to protect these elderly people
  • Did not expect Meliisa McCarthy to pop into my head during an episode, let alone an elimination. "X Gon' Give it to Ya" playing triggered her lip syncing to it on Jimmy Fallon
  • This is why I watch the challenge: Kefla ******* the air/ground to the tune of "Like a Virgin"
  • Hey Syrus. Oh, bye, Syrus! Get the appearance fee check!
  • I imagine if this was Ayanna vs. Flora we would just see Flora get launched out the tube immediately
  • Ayanna shit talking during elimination is epic
  • Best line of the episode: "I don't want Ayanna coming back - She's been very - how do I say this nicely? She's been toxic as ****. I can't find any sage or holy water, so.I need Rachel to be a priest and take her out"
  • I really liked Ayanna on AS2, but she wasn't my favorite this time around. I hope she beats cancer's *** and gets to come back in the future.
  • Syrus being in good spirits about this was nice to see.
  • Kefla taking Brad's star like a boss.
  • Tina's reaction to getting her star taken was amazing. This is why we need her on all the shows.
  • Kam is right, Rachel playing a scared game is gonna bite her in the ***.
  • This was the best episode of the Challenge I've seen since the original Rivals season
  • Why did Tony leave? It's been so long I forget.

    I don't understand why Syrus was brought in to replace Tony, but Genesis wasn't brought in to replace Janelle.

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