Why do butch lesbians on these shows have beautiful long hair that they just throw into buns or ponytails?! Just cut it off like rachel. I hate that kaycee and nicole have such beautiful hair without effort, and never even wear it down.
Rewatching the episode I do think this vote situation is being blown out of proportion. I can see why Kam would feel slighted because she thought Cara would side with her over Rachel due to their history and friendship but I also see where Cara is coming from where it doesn't really matter because Kam is getting her way with Ayanna going against Rachel and Cara's vote truly meant nothing at that point. I think a simple conversation could've squandered any long lasting affects for their game dynamic
I agree this was a simple "I have to play my game moment" and move forward.
I wonder if the votes were shown in order because Kam being ****** makes more sense if Cara set the tone for Rachel being safe. But, other than that it didn't matter.
I guess it's the game, but to me Ayanna didn't make it a big deal. My name is being lied on, and as "Killa Kam", you approaching me beating around the bush.
Simple, who said what? And if you can't say who said what, then let's bring it to the forefront.
Malkamitu is an entitled *****. Brandon is a punk. Syrus was pathetic, and why were they cheering him on? He got his *** whooped.
tony quitting was pathetic. Laurel comforting Nicole was stupid and inconsistent. Ayanna standing on business when Kam tried to confront her was the best part of the episode. Like I said, Brandon is a punk cause he could've told Ayanna exactly what he heard her say, instead he says I haven't talked to you in three days.
also Leroy said he supports Kam in whatever decision she votes for, how you supporting her? You're in the bottom and don't get a vote. He simply went from being bananas ' ***** to malkamitu's *****. He's just not an alpha male, very much beta, which is why he'll never win.
i gained respect for Rachel supporting Ayanna. Tina saying she worked so hard for her star was funny though.
I guess it's the game, but to me Ayanna didn't make it a big deal. My name is being lied on, and as "Killa Kam", you approaching me beating around the bush.
Simple, who said what? And if you can't say who said what, then let's bring it to the forefront.
I would've reacted like she did because WHO has my name in their mouth?
But, from everyone else's POV, it looks like she's overcompensating instead of just keeping it as a simple "no". Plus, the drama from before probably meant the house already wasn't ******* with her. So making another argument just made it worse.
But, she wasn't wrong for asking. Kam wasn't wrong for not saying a name either because now she looks loyal by showing she can keep information a secretl
Kam annoys me all of the time with how she thinks people should just do what she wants them to do. I do understand her being bothered by Cara since they've worked together for awhile, but the vote ultimately didn't matter so let it go.
I'm pretty sure Rachel stole Tina's star because of the deal with Cara. That also explains that Cara didn't really throw her vote; she had agreed to not vote Rachel in, and Rachel agreed not to take Cara's star. So, that deal worked out for Cara in one way, but now she's seemingly upset Kam so it backfired in another way.
Exactly the vote didn't matter, so why get upset. It shows she has control issues and just expects to be worshiped. She's great tv but I'm turning on her as a fan. She is not Coral or some legend who has earned to be bowed down to.
and Rachel should have stolen Steve's and left both girls alone.
Kam has always expected to be worshipped which is why I never liked her. She always had this aura about her like her shit didn't stink. She's getting humbled this season by people like Ayanna. Notice she didn't get in Ayanna's face like she did Laurel on WOTw2? She didn't want smoke when she made that face when Ayanna was about to go off on everyone. I don't like how Kam is always asking everyone to please keep her and Leroy safe before every deliberation. Hasn't Leroy been in the bottom twice now? It's time for them to start thinking smart and break them two up. They can't be doing her favors just because she's "Killa Kam". Like Ayanna said "Is this what Killa Kam does?" She peed for that. I think this season got too messy for producers and made their faves look bad thanks to the OGs which is probably why they're about to ruin All Stars 5. We all need to savor this season while it lasts because I think it's the end as far as anything good from The Challenge goes.
**** so I'm not the only one who didn't think Ayanna was lying and that Flora and Brandon misunderstood what she meant? Although, she wasn't helping herself acting the most getting overly defensive. It also sounded like she acted worse behind the scenes, but her edit made me feel bad for her because it seemed like she wanted to work with Kam and Leroy. But why she randomly came for Jasmine lol?
It was so funny how she randomly came for Jasmine like that but she wasn't wrong. Jasmine had been trashing her and as proven Ayanna isn't stupid. Then she was yelling at Brandon then they cut to the confessional of him saying "well she did say it I heard her at the mission". So Ayanna's reads were so spot on. She may look like the crazy one but at the end of the day she was right about everyone.
Malkamitu is an entitled *****. Brandon is a punk. Syrus was pathetic, and why were they cheering him on? He got his *** whooped.
tony quitting was pathetic. Laurel comforting Nicole was stupid and inconsistent. Ayanna standing on business when Kam tried to confront her was the best part of the episode. Like I said, Brandon is a punk cause he could've told Ayanna exactly what he heard her say, instead he says I haven't talked to you in three days.
also Leroy said he supports Kam in whatever decision she votes for, how you supporting her? You're in the bottom and don't get a vote. He simply went from being bananas ' ***** to malkamitu's *****. He's just not an alpha male, very much beta, which is why he'll never win.
i gained respect for Rachel supporting Ayanna. Tina saying she worked so hard for her star was funny though.
This so much! Brandon is such a P u $ $ A Y and always has been. Can they stop inviting his useless self back?
Kam is too entitled she makes me sick. And it sucks to know that she is the catalyst of the downfall of All Stars. She was the first AYTo and now they're going to bring CBs and Internationals to finish what Kam started and kill off All stars. Kam sucks.
Chavo you're getting mad weird than you already were right now. Because mind you, casting was already weird when it was said that Nam was called for this season. So shut the entire **** up
Chavo you're getting mad weird than you already were right now. Because mind you, casting was already weird when it was said that Nam was called for this season. So shut the entire **** up
Whatever. I said what I said and stand by it. You mad huh? Another thing that annoys the shit out of me with Kam and Leroy is they milk having a kid now as a reason to not vote them in. Half of these other people have kids too. You ain't special. Can't wait until they leave. Ayanna was right.
Another thing that annoys the shit out of me with Kam and Leroy is they milk having a kid now as a reason to not vote them in. Half of these other people have kids too. You ain't special. Can't wait until they leave. Ayanna was right.
And there's two of them on there collecting those appearance checks. Ayanna didn't have a partner on also collecting money. Having said that, is it Kam and Leroy milking it, or just Kam (no pun intended)? I just see Kam doing and saying whatever and Leroy just sitting there going along with it. I hope someone else starts off the next discussion about who should go into elimination; cut Kam off before she can speak!
-So happy for Averey but it was the worst possilbe outcome for all of my favs.
- I wish Rachel would have just taken Steve's star and given it to someone. Although playing nice with Cara Maria this early might be smart. Otherwise someone might come for her main ride or dies since they're the only options. I disagree with Kam, I don't think it was a scared game, I think she thought about it in the moment, it's **** she had to pick someone, but I think keeping Cara Maria in there wasn't the worst move.
- I love Ayanna, but out of Ayanna, Rachel, Veronica, Tina, and Flora she is the one I was happy to see go.
-I wish Nicole would have went home instead
-Tony leaving was perfectly fine with me. He doesn nothing for me at all, but I hope his family is doing better.
-Kefla was outstanding!
-I still stand by Genesis should have been in this game.
-Kam being entitled to Cara Maria for a vote was dumb - Kam isn't an idiot and can see it didn't matter how Cara Maria voted. Calm yourself Kam.
-Tina's reaction to the star was freaking hilarious - she is Gold <3
-I'm gonna hope the next preivew was just an editing trick and Tina and Rachel aren't beefing cause I need R/V/T to stay together <3
I sometimes miss secret voting - it allows people to vote for who they really want and can cause more chaos cause of the lack of trust.
Kam is too entitled she makes me sick. And it sucks to know that she is the catalyst of the downfall of All Stars. She was the first AYTo and now they're going to bring CBs and Internationals to finish what Kam started and kill off All stars. Kam sucks.
I've thought this since around the time when the cast dropped last year, but I think this was their plan. They know that people love Kam, so they're gonna try to use her as a springboard to bring in other people who have no business being on All Stars since they know that not many people will be opposed to her being on, or at least not nearly as many people complaining about her being on as there SHOULD be!
That made no sense, how do you force the winner to make a move bad for their game?
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Why do butch lesbians on these shows have beautiful long hair that they just throw into buns or ponytails?! Just cut it off like rachel. I hate that kaycee and nicole have such beautiful hair without effort, and never even wear it down.
I agree this was a simple "I have to play my game moment" and move forward.
I wonder if the votes were shown in order because Kam being ****** makes more sense if Cara set the tone for Rachel being safe. But, other than that it didn't matter.
I guess it's the game, but to me Ayanna didn't make it a big deal. My name is being lied on, and as "Killa Kam", you approaching me beating around the bush.
Simple, who said what? And if you can't say who said what, then let's bring it to the forefront.
Kam & Cara have a relationship of years. Laurel and Kam do not.
Malkamitu is an entitled *****. Brandon is a punk. Syrus was pathetic, and why were they cheering him on? He got his *** whooped.
tony quitting was pathetic. Laurel comforting Nicole was stupid and inconsistent. Ayanna standing on business when Kam tried to confront her was the best part of the episode. Like I said, Brandon is a punk cause he could've told Ayanna exactly what he heard her say, instead he says I haven't talked to you in three days.
also Leroy said he supports Kam in whatever decision she votes for, how you supporting her? You're in the bottom and don't get a vote. He simply went from being bananas ' ***** to malkamitu's *****. He's just not an alpha male, very much beta, which is why he'll never win.
i gained respect for Rachel supporting Ayanna. Tina saying she worked so hard for her star was funny though.
kam's fake ***...
I would've reacted like she did because WHO has my name in their mouth?
But, from everyone else's POV, it looks like she's overcompensating instead of just keeping it as a simple "no". Plus, the drama from before probably meant the house already wasn't ******* with her. So making another argument just made it worse.
But, she wasn't wrong for asking. Kam wasn't wrong for not saying a name either because now she looks loyal by showing she can keep information a secretl
Kam has always expected to be worshipped which is why I never liked her. She always had this aura about her like her shit didn't stink. She's getting humbled this season by people like Ayanna. Notice she didn't get in Ayanna's face like she did Laurel on WOTw2? She didn't want smoke when she made that face when Ayanna was about to go off on everyone. I don't like how Kam is always asking everyone to please keep her and Leroy safe before every deliberation. Hasn't Leroy been in the bottom twice now? It's time for them to start thinking smart and break them two up. They can't be doing her favors just because she's "Killa Kam". Like Ayanna said "Is this what Killa Kam does?" She peed for that. I think this season got too messy for producers and made their faves look bad thanks to the OGs which is probably why they're about to ruin All Stars 5. We all need to savor this season while it lasts because I think it's the end as far as anything good from The Challenge goes.
Seeing Kam and Rachel playing the same season is absolutely insane. Throw in Laurel, Cara and others it's like and dream
It was so funny how she randomly came for Jasmine like that but she wasn't wrong. Jasmine had been trashing her and as proven Ayanna isn't stupid. Then she was yelling at Brandon then they cut to the confessional of him saying "well she did say it I heard her at the mission". So Ayanna's reads were so spot on. She may look like the crazy one but at the end of the day she was right about everyone.
This so much! Brandon is such a P u $ $ A Y and always has been. Can they stop inviting his useless self back?
Kam is too entitled she makes me sick. And it sucks to know that she is the catalyst of the downfall of All Stars. She was the first AYTo and now they're going to bring CBs and Internationals to finish what Kam started and kill off All stars. Kam sucks.
Kam has zero to do with the casting of this show. Hate her for the game but let's not act like her presence is the same as non-MTV people.
Chavo you're getting mad weird than you already were right now. Because mind you, casting was already weird when it was said that Nam was called for this season. So shut the entire **** up
And Cara should have shot back, "Why does my friend of years expect me to lose my star for no reason?"
Whatever. I said what I said and stand by it. You mad huh? Another thing that annoys the shit out of me with Kam and Leroy is they milk having a kid now as a reason to not vote them in. Half of these other people have kids too. You ain't special. Can't wait until they leave. Ayanna was right.
And there's two of them on there collecting those appearance checks. Ayanna didn't have a partner on also collecting money. Having said that, is it Kam and Leroy milking it, or just Kam (no pun intended)? I just see Kam doing and saying whatever and Leroy just sitting there going along with it. I hope someone else starts off the next discussion about who should go into elimination; cut Kam off before she can speak!
Kam outperforming Leroy in these comps as a new mom is embarrassing for him I'm sorry ****
Some people will just always be flops
Just watched it some thoughts:
-So happy for Averey but it was the worst possilbe outcome for all of my favs.
- I wish Rachel would have just taken Steve's star and given it to someone. Although playing nice with Cara Maria this early might be smart. Otherwise someone might come for her main ride or dies since they're the only options. I disagree with Kam, I don't think it was a scared game, I think she thought about it in the moment, it's **** she had to pick someone, but I think keeping Cara Maria in there wasn't the worst move.
- I love Ayanna, but out of Ayanna, Rachel, Veronica, Tina, and Flora she is the one I was happy to see go.
-I wish Nicole would have went home instead
-Tony leaving was perfectly fine with me. He doesn nothing for me at all, but I hope his family is doing better.
-Kefla was outstanding!
-I still stand by Genesis should have been in this game.
-Kam being entitled to Cara Maria for a vote was dumb - Kam isn't an idiot and can see it didn't matter how Cara Maria voted. Calm yourself Kam.
-Tina's reaction to the star was freaking hilarious - she is Gold <3
-I'm gonna hope the next preivew was just an editing trick and Tina and Rachel aren't beefing cause I need R/V/T to stay together <3
I sometimes miss secret voting - it allows people to vote for who they really want and can cause more chaos cause of the lack of trust.
i wonder if that's why he always worked w johnny bc it was one of the only ways he could stay in long
Also can we all take a moment to be proud of Ace for making it so far - 3 full episodes and at least one more, if not more after that!
I mean it helps when you have Tyrie in the same cast as you.
Syrus was so skinny, almost unhealthily so. And of course he immediately gets a weight-based elimination lol.
lol Ace was around for 7 episodes on gauntlet 2, and made it to the finale for inferno 3. He just didn't take the show seriously his first few times.
**** Syrus.
Kam comes onto any season and becomes the main character lol
Ace not being able to handle a bug helmet will never not be funny.
I've thought this since around the time when the cast dropped last year, but I think this was their plan. They know that people love Kam, so they're gonna try to use her as a springboard to bring in other people who have no business being on All Stars since they know that not many people will be opposed to her being on, or at least not nearly as many people complaining about her being on as there SHOULD be!
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