I think Kaycee is not the argument type or maybe scared to pop off on tv. Some of these reality tv people are very Conscience of their image. I know Taylor Hale was and admitted that she didn't want to look like an angry Black Woman on tv. I just know Taylor hale has a nasty mouth in real life though.
I love when people stan boring people like Kefla and Roni (both who I want to see again) then proceed to call Devin boring or useless. You don't have to like someone to comprehend why they're cast. This goes back to the beginning of the show. Devin always provides (as does Tori John Jordan etc) even if you don't like what they add. Just like some think Kam Leroy Cara and Laurel ruined AS4 by being the majority of the show others loved it.
If you can't comprehend what Devin adds you're an idiot. Period.
You don't get to dictate what others find entertaining. To me Devun has never said anything funny. He is forced and a tryhard. To me that is not good tv. When the numbers get low and he is still left, I quit watching. I hit the fast-forward 10 seconds button when he speaks. When you make people quit watching, you aren't a good addition. He may provide to you, but he provides nothing but a headache for me.
Just like some think Kam Leroy Cara and Laurel ruined AS4 by being the majority of the show others loved it.
I think majority were annoyed and bored by the edit, which is why engagement steadily declined throughout the season. It's an ensemble cast. We want to see Tina/Flora fight not hear about Kam's kid 500 times.
They don't know what boring means. They think you have to have manufactured storylines or rehearsed confessionals to be entertaining. Kefla brought a MUCH needed fun and light energy. He had charisma, was naturally funny, and was VERY rootable. He's not main character energy but he's a very solid and much need supporting character. He added more in his 5 episodes than Devin has in his hundreds.
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
They don't know what boring means. They think you have to have manufactured storylines or rehearsed confessionals to be entertaining. Kefla brought a MUCH needed fun and light energy. He had charisma, was naturally funny, and was VERY rootable. He's not main character energy but he's a very solid and much need supporting character. He added more in his 5 episodes than Devin has in his hundreds.
exactly! He was so refreshing to have back. I like people who are genuinely themselves and not trying hard for a moment like devin always is. They dont make em like Kefla anymore <3
You don't get to dictate what others find entertaining. To me Devun has never said anything funny. He is forced and a tryhard. To me that is not good tv. When the numbers get low and he is still left, I quit watching. I hit the fast-forward 10 seconds button when he speaks. When you make people quit watching, you aren't a good addition. He may provide to you, but he provides nothing but a headache for me.
You don't get to dictat what others find entertaining. What you think has nothing to do with casting. But you're too ******* stupid to comprehend that so keep *****ing because that's all you do.
I don't even think Devin is boring he's just not likeable. And, up to FR I did actually like him.
A troll under the bridge only works when you're under the bridge. He wasn't meant to be in the majority so whatever luster he had is loss.
He isn't. People loved him when he was anti-John, called him out and beat him
People dislike anyone that runs that show. Devin is unfortunately good at the game, especially socially, therefore he's trash and everyone pretends he added nothing
Devin vs John alone is more than most have done on the show. Facts.
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
Literally everyone on the VA is sadly deserving of being cast
Tori and Devin aren't even disputable. They may be annoying but they compete, strategize and add drama (manufactored or not)
Fessy, Josh and Kaycee are fill casting requirements--especially Kaycee who fills multiple requirements.
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
I agree with this. I hate Vicki and John but both deserve a spot on this show. Vicki just needs to lose all her friends. She was most tolerable on USA2 without them (minus the Seaweed storyline). She also just doesnt have that main character energy that Coral, Veronica, Tina, Kendal, Jenn, Paula, Georgia, Marie, Ashley M, Amanda, Nurys, and Michele do. Keep Vicki and drop Devun, Aneesa, Josh, & Kasey.
Kendal is a Roni-type to me but she'd be the straight man on a 90s Nick sitcom. Kendal Explain it All.
Marie doesn't. Marie's arguably the most overrated person to ever be on the show in terms of personality because she debuted at a time people were desperate for something new after the JEK era.
Kendal is one of my favorites but she's a secondary character that is important to the show because she's likeable. She's definitely not a "face of the show" quality. Really only Emily Bailey, Coral Smith, Veronica Portillo, Jenn Grijalva, Paula Meronek, Ashley Mitchell and Tori Deal ever had that. Maybe Nurys and Michelle--i have seen enough of them to know. Amanda's a sidekick that's either annoying or entertaining but not the star. She's Katie Doyle 2.0. Katie was a valuable cast member but never the star.
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
I agree with this. I hate Vicki and John but both deserve a spot on this show. Vicki just needs to lose all her friends. She was most tolerable on USA2 without them (minus the Seaweed storyline). She also just doesnt have that main character energy that Coral, Veronica, Tina, Kendal, Jenn, Paula, Georgia, Marie, Ashley M, Amanda, Nurys, and Michele do. Keep Vicki and drop Devun, Aneesa, Josh, & Kasey.
Michele, Kendall, Georgia (though I love her), Marie, Amanda or Tina don't have main character energy. They're good for a episode or two centered on them, but not an entire season. I hate Nurys, but I will say that she does.
Melissa delivering a season-long female rivalry with DaVonne and also having a complex relationship with her best frien/sister (Laurel/cara tea), all whilst making a final and winning an elimination like Queen is the blueprint of good competitor that is ALSO authentically entertaining. She's kinda the best casting choice of all time?
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
I agree with this. I hate Vicki and John but both deserve a spot on this show. Vicki just needs to lose all her friends. She was most tolerable on USA2 without them (minus the Seaweed storyline). She also just doesnt have that main character energy that Coral, Veronica, Tina, Kendal, Jenn, Paula, Georgia, Marie, Ashley M, Amanda, Nurys, and Michele do. Keep Vicki and drop Devun, Aneesa, Josh, & Kasey.
Michele, Kendall, Georgia (though I love her), Marie, Amanda or Tina don't have main character energy. They're good for a episode or two centered on them, but not an entire season. I hate Nurys, but I will say that she does.
I largely agree--I do think Georgia's debatable. Had she been a regular she could have grown into the star.
I think Kaycee is not the argument type or maybe scared to pop off on tv. Some of these reality tv people are very Conscience of their image. I know Taylor Hale was and admitted that she didn't want to look like an angry Black Woman on tv. I just know Taylor hale has a nasty mouth in real life though.
active?
well compared to her other appearances yeah ig lol
she warmed up to a very modest 72 degrees fahrenheit for that one
Devun is the least funny human to ever live and the worst casting choice on this show by a mile. He is truly insufferable in every way possible.
I love when people stan boring people like Kefla and Roni (both who I want to see again) then proceed to call Devin boring or useless. You don't have to like someone to comprehend why they're cast. This goes back to the beginning of the show. Devin always provides (as does Tori John Jordan etc) even if you don't like what they add. Just like some think Kam Leroy Cara and Laurel ruined AS4 by being the majority of the show others loved it.
If you can't comprehend what Devin adds you're an idiot. Period.
You don't get to dictate what others find entertaining. To me Devun has never said anything funny. He is forced and a tryhard. To me that is not good tv. When the numbers get low and he is still left, I quit watching. I hit the fast-forward 10 seconds button when he speaks. When you make people quit watching, you aren't a good addition. He may provide to you, but he provides nothing but a headache for me.
I think majority were annoyed and bored by the edit, which is why engagement steadily declined throughout the season. It's an ensemble cast. We want to see Tina/Flora fight not hear about Kam's kid 500 times.
Kefla boring?!! BAN THIS MAN AGAIN IMMEDIATELY
They don't know what boring means. They think you have to have manufactured storylines or rehearsed confessionals to be entertaining. Kefla brought a MUCH needed fun and light energy. He had charisma, was naturally funny, and was VERY rootable. He's not main character energy but he's a very solid and much need supporting character. He added more in his 5 episodes than Devin has in his hundreds.
That 3 seconds clip of Kefla dancing >>>>>>>>>>>>> all of Devins seasons except Vendettas.
I don't even think Devin is boring he's just not likeable. And, up to FR I did actually like him.
A troll under the bridge only works when you're under the bridge. He wasn't meant to be in the majority so whatever luster he had is loss.
Also I think we forget the supporting character in these discussions.
Kefla , Flora etc. give funny side confessionals.
Britini, Slyvia cause small bouts of chaos.
Then you have more mundane people like Roni who don't do either but still maintains likability. You either like it or you don't.
Everyone isn't meant to be a main character. You don't have to like these people either but they are playing their role.
Honestly hot take but out of the VA Tori is the most deserving of being casted. Ofc she is super annoying, but she is polarizing and causes the fans to feel something. Would much rather have someone to hate than borecee where I feel nothing. The problem is when she is always the MAIN storyline and character and steamrolls every season.
exactly! He was so refreshing to have back. I like people who are genuinely themselves and not trying hard for a moment like devin always is. They dont make em like Kefla anymore <3
You don't get to dictat what others find entertaining. What you think has nothing to do with casting. But you're too ******* stupid to comprehend that so keep *****ing because that's all you do.
I love Kelfa--he added no drama and barely added competition but I'd want him on every season
This is delusional and why they don't listen to anything said on here.
He isn't. People loved him when he was anti-John, called him out and beat him
People dislike anyone that runs that show. Devin is unfortunately good at the game, especially socially, therefore he's trash and everyone pretends he added nothing
Devin vs John alone is more than most have done on the show. Facts.
Literally everyone on the VA is sadly deserving of being cast
Tori and Devin aren't even disputable. They may be annoying but they compete, strategize and add drama (manufactored or not)
Fessy, Josh and Kaycee are fill casting requirements--especially Kaycee who fills multiple requirements.
I agree with this. I hate Vicki and John but both deserve a spot on this show. Vicki just needs to lose all her friends. She was most tolerable on USA2 without them (minus the Seaweed storyline). She also just doesnt have that main character energy that Coral, Veronica, Tina, Kendal, Jenn, Paula, Georgia, Marie, Ashley M, Amanda, Nurys, and Michele do. Keep Vicki and drop Devun, Aneesa, Josh, & Kasey.
you threw Kendal and Marie in there like we wouldn't notice
Marie definitely has main character energy.
Kendal is a Roni-type to me but she'd be the straight man on a 90s Nick sitcom. Kendal Explain it All.
Marie doesn't. Marie's arguably the most overrated person to ever be on the show in terms of personality because she debuted at a time people were desperate for something new after the JEK era.
Kendal is one of my favorites but she's a secondary character that is important to the show because she's likeable. She's definitely not a "face of the show" quality. Really only Emily Bailey, Coral Smith, Veronica Portillo, Jenn Grijalva, Paula Meronek, Ashley Mitchell and Tori Deal ever had that. Maybe Nurys and Michelle--i have seen enough of them to know. Amanda's a sidekick that's either annoying or entertaining but not the star. She's Katie Doyle 2.0. Katie was a valuable cast member but never the star.
I wanted to sneak Nicole Bass in there too but figured that was doing too much lol.
Michele, Kendall, Georgia (though I love her), Marie, Amanda or Tina don't have main character energy. They're good for a episode or two centered on them, but not an entire season. I hate Nurys, but I will say that she does.
I largely agree--I do think Georgia's debatable. Had she been a regular she could have grown into the star.
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