The old hags are beefing! My oldies always deliver. The disrespect paid to Susie by production was crazy. She's a legend and she deserved that spot over Chodi. Sarah is being ridiculous and doing too much. Yes, counseling should be available but everyone knows what the show entails so if you can't handle it then don't go on. Rachel is right.
The old hags are beefing! My oldies always deliver. The disrespect paid to Susie by production was crazy. She's a legend and she deserved that spot over Chodi. Sarah is being ridiculous and doing too much. Yes, counseling should be available but everyone knows what the show entails so if you can't handle it then don't go on. Rachel is right.
Melinda is the REAL mvp of the season. Without her dropping we wouldn't got Aviv who was the only random good surprise. Especially them knowing two of the best castings would be purged right away. Idiots.
The old hags are beefing! My oldies always deliver. The disrespect paid to Susie by production was crazy. She's a legend and she deserved that spot over Chodi. Sarah is being ridiculous and doing too much. Yes, counseling should be available but everyone knows what the show entails so if you can't handle it then don't go on. Rachel is right.
This is why I used to dislike her. What the actual FÚÇK is she even talking about. Also- just... why?????????????
I could make a collage of Cara leaving Laurel in the dust, but it would be such a waste of my time that I wouldn't even want to do it as someone who has a LOT of time to waste-
I think Rachel is being a lil dense like y'all don't go on there for therapy, but y'all engage in traumatic shit. A therapist should've been on-site for the Ruins and the Island, considering the BS the women went through.
I also don't know if I fully trust Sarah's word because AS4 was a go until they said no to Susie. So what was different?
I think Rachel is being a lil dense like y'all don't go on there for therapy, but y'all engage in traumatic shit. A therapist should've been on-site for the Ruins and the Island, considering the BS the women went through.
This might be a bad/unpopular take but I think they know what they are getting into going in. It is a competition show for money, and it used to be teams. The guys want to win, women are naturally going to be weaker and deal with misogyny. If you can't deal with that, stay home. There are going to be votes and blindsides, if you can't deal with that then stay home. It's a paid vacation. Sarah became addicted to this show on The Ruins, the most toxic season so...what is she talking about? There should be competent and responsible production people there to prevent things like the Tonya incident or when Kyle allegedly became aggressive with Cara. But I dunno, I just feel like you know what you are getting into so if you can't handle it, don't go. Like, I would never sign-up to do a job that works with kids dying with cancer because emotionally I couldn't handle it. I do think that they need therapist and people to help deal with after the show and trolling.
The old hags are beefing! My oldies always deliver. The disrespect paid to Susie by production was crazy. She's a legend and she deserved that spot over Chodi. Sarah is being ridiculous and doing too much. Yes, counseling should be available but everyone knows what the show entails so if you can't handle it then don't go on. Rachel is right.
I think Rachel is being a lil dense like y'all don't go on there for therapy, but y'all engage in traumatic shit. A therapist should've been on-site for the Ruins and the Island, considering the BS the women went through.
This might be a bad/unpopular take but I think they know what they are getting into going in. It is a competition show for money, and it used to be teams. The guys want to win, women are naturally going to be weaker and deal with misogyny. If you can't deal with that, stay home. There are going to be votes and blindsides, if you can't deal with that then stay home. It's a paid vacation. Sarah became addicted to this show on The Ruins, the most toxic season so...what is she talking about? There should be competent and responsible production people there to prevent things like the Tonya incident or when Kyle allegedly became aggressive with Cara. But I dunno, I just feel like you know what you are getting into so if you can't handle it, don't go. Like, I would never sign-up to do a job that works with kids dying with cancer because emotionally I couldn't handle it. I do think that they need therapist and people to help deal with after the show and trolling.
You can learn what you sign up for, but there is still a limit.
As you mentioned, Tonya knew those people didn't like her, but that doesn't justify what happened. That doesn't justify Cheyenne being harassed by John and his muckrat for no reason.
You can expect things to happen in a game, but that doesn't change the fact things can go beyond that, and that's where the mental health aspect goes in. I'm sure Cara expected to go in consistently and get into heated politics, not have her abuse thrown back in her face.
If John and Vince were too much for Cheyenne then reality tv isn't for her. Cara openly advertises her toxic and unhealthy relationships on tv, social media, and podcasts so she needs to be prepared for that to be called out. Tonya was harrassed and assaulted, allegedly. She clearly had signs of struggling and there should have been intervention before that happened or supervision to prevent it.
If John and Vince were too much for Cheyenne then reality tv isn't for her. Cara openly advertises her toxic and unhealthy relationships on tv, social media, and podcasts so she needs to be prepared for that to be called out.
It's about justification. Bananas and Vince being ******** still isn't justified. Laurel being a disgusting person by throwing someone's abuse in their face still isn't justified. Do you also think that women who wear revealing clothing are "asking for it"? The ******* is ALWAYS at fault.
It's about justification. Bananas and Vince being ******** still isn't justified. Laurel being a disgusting person by throwing someone's abuse in their face still isn't justified. Do you also think that women who wear revealing clothing are "asking for it"? The ******* is ALWAYS at fault.
She got hazed and teased. She signed-up and agreed to live in a frat house with dòúchebägs. That's why they don't allow drama anymore and edit it out cause yall cry that it's bullying.******* up and have thick skin. Bite back. Eating those losers up should be effortless. Again, Cara flaunts her toxic relationships. Honestly, my issue is with them casting her. Like Tonya, she's not mentally fit for reality tv. Sorry. There are lines. Sticking a toothbrush up a drunk girls privates, crosses that. Teasing someone by calling them boring and the wrong name isn't crossing a line. It's just annoying.
How does Cara "flaunt" her toxic relationships? Huh? We also have no evidence that Paulie is an abusive boyfriend. You need to quit saying that because it makes light of abuse. Stick to things like calling Tori "Vicki" because the topic of abuse has no place in your silly games.
How does Cara "flaunt" her toxic relationships? Huh? We also have no evidence that Paulie is an abusive boyfriend. You need to quit saying that because it makes light of abuse. Stick to things like calling Tori "Vicki" because the topic of abuse has no place in your silly games.
At the very least it's a VERY toxic relationship and I will stand on that. It's not a silly game. You are the one trying to make it a "silly game". I think it's a very sad situation. This toxic relationship and evident is flaunted on tv, social media, and on podcast by THEM. I am not bringing up some private and hidden relationship. You aren't a Cara fan, you are a blind and ignorant follower.
She got hazed and teased. She signed-up and agreed to live in a frat house with dòúchebägs. That's why they don't allow drama anymore and edit it out cause yall cry that it's bullying.******* up and have thick skin. Bite back. Eating those losers up should be effortless. Again, Cara flaunts her toxic relationships. Honestly, my issue is with them casting her. Like Tonya, she's not mentally fit for reality tv. Sorry. There are lines. Sticking a toothbrush up a drunk girls privates, crosses that. Teasing someone by calling them boring and the wrong name isn't crossing a line. It's just annoying.
Your issue is with them casting Tonya and not the men who stuck a toothbrush up her va•g??
At the very least it's a VERY toxic relationship and I will stand on that. It's not a silly game. You are the one trying to make it a "silly game". I think it's a very sad situation. This toxic relationship and evident is flaunted on tv, social media, and on podcast by THEM. I am not bringing up some private and hidden relationship. You aren't a Cara fan, you are a blind and ignorant follower.
Well then you think he's a bad boyfriend, which is fair. It's stupid, because your exposure to their lives is just social media, but it's still fair. What I said NOT to do is to say he's abusive just because you don't like him because it makes light of abuse.
Your issue is with them casting Tonya and not the men who stuck a toothbrush up her va•g??
That was selective reading. Absolutely not. In a psych and pregame, you generally can't predict frat guys are going to go too far and sexually harrass a women. Seeing Tonya wasn't fit to be there was evident in the first few minutes to viewers and she should have had a removal like Piggy was on Inferno. They didn't make the responsible decision because they knew her mess would make good tv, so they should have at the very least closely supervised her and the situation. They should have been there to intervene before it got to the point it did and the boys should have been removed for even considering it. She was not protected and that's my point. I'm agreeing there needs to be more resources to protect the castmembers, but I'm saying if you are going to need counseling because you get teased or called weak and deadweight...reality tv is not for you.
Your issue is with them casting Tonya and not the men who stuck a toothbrush up her va•g??
That was selective reading. Absolutely not. In a psych and pregame, you generally can't predict frat guys are going to go too far and sexually harrass a women. Seeing Tonya wasn't fit to be there was evident in the first few minutes to viewers and she should have had a removal like Piggy was on Inferno. They didn't make the responsible decision because they knew her mess would make good tv, so they should have at the very least closely supervised her and the situation. They should have been there to intervene before it got to the point it did and the boys should have been removed for even considering it. She was not protected and that's my point. I'm agreeing there needs to be more resources to protect the castmembers, but I'm saying if you are going to need counseling because you get teased or called weak and deadweight...reality tv is not for you.
I agree. But regardless of what mental state Tonya was in, there's no excuse for what Evan and Kenny did. That's all on them and production. Maybe that's what you're saying too.
Fans always complaining about bullying and misogyny has made the show soft and pg. That's not what I want to watch. People need a thicker skin to be on THIS type of reality show. With that said, I can be the most mentally toughest woman in the world and living in a house with a bunch of "frat boys" picking at you non-stop for their own amusement would drive me crazy after a while. The response can't just be "well if you can't take it leave the show". Sometimes it's the non-frat boy like guys standing up for the women, but production also can just tell the men to give it a rest sometimes.
I agree. But regardless of what mental state Tonya was in, there's no excuse for what Evan and Kenny did. That's all on them and production. Maybe that's what you're saying too.
It was on them and production, 100%. You are missing the point and likely just trying to look for me to be saying something wrong. The point is production needs to be more responsible in protecting the cast in various ways and intervene and act when necessary. Kenny and Evan should never had the opportunity to get near a passed out Tonya with a toothbrush. Kyle should have been removed from Cara before getting to the point he punched a hole in the wall next to her. The boys should never have been allowed to tape Amanda's mouth shut. Those are moments the cast needed protection for production and they were negligent and they should be held responsible for it.
Fans always complaining about bullying and misogyny has made the show soft and pg. That's not what I want to watch. People need a thicker skin to be on THIS type of reality show. With that said, I can be the most mentally toughest woman in the world and living in a house with a bunch of "frat boys" picking at you non-stop for their own amusement would drive me crazy after a while. The response can't just be "well if you can't take it leave the show". Sometimes it's the non-frat boy like guys standing up for the women, but production also can just tell the men to give it a rest sometimes.
Most of the girls loved the frat boys. They loved being included in their jokes and games. Then there were the girls like Katie and Coral who wouldn't tolerate it. That's what we need not people who cry and need therapy. If you are sensitive, that is fine, but reality tv isn't the place for you.
CT Darrell and Mark are locks for a Battle of the Eras/Best of the Best
Derrick and Brad, despite my dislike of them, are obviously choices as well. Easily over Kefla. That's not even a 1 second conversation.
Forgot about CT. Fixed. Sorry Alton.
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What is she referring to "looks desperate"?
Susie should've been cast. The only person to reemerge without doing all stars or spin-offs was Aviv.
Melinda is the REAL mvp of the season. Without her dropping we wouldn't got Aviv who was the only random good surprise. Especially them knowing two of the best castings would be purged right away. Idiots.
This doesn't make sense because how would Tori have been able to high-five Cara during the elimination?
This is why I used to dislike her. What the actual FÚÇK is she even talking about. Also- just... why?????????????
I could make a collage of Cara leaving Laurel in the dust, but it would be such a waste of my time that I wouldn't even want to do it as someone who has a LOT of time to waste-
I think Rachel is being a lil dense like y'all don't go on there for therapy, but y'all engage in traumatic shit. A therapist should've been on-site for the Ruins and the Island, considering the BS the women went through.
I also don't know if I fully trust Sarah's word because AS4 was a go until they said no to Susie. So what was different?
This might be a bad/unpopular take but I think they know what they are getting into going in. It is a competition show for money, and it used to be teams. The guys want to win, women are naturally going to be weaker and deal with misogyny. If you can't deal with that, stay home. There are going to be votes and blindsides, if you can't deal with that then stay home. It's a paid vacation. Sarah became addicted to this show on The Ruins, the most toxic season so...what is she talking about? There should be competent and responsible production people there to prevent things like the Tonya incident or when Kyle allegedly became aggressive with Cara. But I dunno, I just feel like you know what you are getting into so if you can't handle it, don't go. Like, I would never sign-up to do a job that works with kids dying with cancer because emotionally I couldn't handle it. I do think that they need therapist and people to help deal with after the show and trolling.
the podcast she did
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Oh, got it. Thank you
You can learn what you sign up for, but there is still a limit.
As you mentioned, Tonya knew those people didn't like her, but that doesn't justify what happened. That doesn't justify Cheyenne being harassed by John and his muckrat for no reason.
You can expect things to happen in a game, but that doesn't change the fact things can go beyond that, and that's where the mental health aspect goes in. I'm sure Cara expected to go in consistently and get into heated politics, not have her abuse thrown back in her face.
If John and Vince were too much for Cheyenne then reality tv isn't for her. Cara openly advertises her toxic and unhealthy relationships on tv, social media, and podcasts so she needs to be prepared for that to be called out. Tonya was harrassed and assaulted, allegedly. She clearly had signs of struggling and there should have been intervention before that happened or supervision to prevent it.
It's about justification. Bananas and Vince being ******** still isn't justified. Laurel being a disgusting person by throwing someone's abuse in their face still isn't justified. Do you also think that women who wear revealing clothing are "asking for it"? The ******* is ALWAYS at fault.
She got hazed and teased. She signed-up and agreed to live in a frat house with dòúchebägs. That's why they don't allow drama anymore and edit it out cause yall cry that it's bullying.******* up and have thick skin. Bite back. Eating those losers up should be effortless. Again, Cara flaunts her toxic relationships. Honestly, my issue is with them casting her. Like Tonya, she's not mentally fit for reality tv. Sorry. There are lines. Sticking a toothbrush up a drunk girls privates, crosses that. Teasing someone by calling them boring and the wrong name isn't crossing a line. It's just annoying.
If it happened on the current show, would mike be dq for the brad wedgie?
How does Cara "flaunt" her toxic relationships? Huh? We also have no evidence that Paulie is an abusive boyfriend. You need to quit saying that because it makes light of abuse. Stick to things like calling Tori "Vicki" because the topic of abuse has no place in your silly games.
At the very least it's a VERY toxic relationship and I will stand on that. It's not a silly game. You are the one trying to make it a "silly game". I think it's a very sad situation. This toxic relationship and evident is flaunted on tv, social media, and on podcast by THEM. I am not bringing up some private and hidden relationship. You aren't a Cara fan, you are a blind and ignorant follower.
Your issue is with them casting Tonya and not the men who stuck a toothbrush up her va•g??
Well then you think he's a bad boyfriend, which is fair. It's stupid, because your exposure to their lives is just social media, but it's still fair. What I said NOT to do is to say he's abusive just because you don't like him because it makes light of abuse.
That was selective reading. Absolutely not. In a psych and pregame, you generally can't predict frat guys are going to go too far and sexually harrass a women. Seeing Tonya wasn't fit to be there was evident in the first few minutes to viewers and she should have had a removal like Piggy was on Inferno. They didn't make the responsible decision because they knew her mess would make good tv, so they should have at the very least closely supervised her and the situation. They should have been there to intervene before it got to the point it did and the boys should have been removed for even considering it. She was not protected and that's my point. I'm agreeing there needs to be more resources to protect the castmembers, but I'm saying if you are going to need counseling because you get teased or called weak and deadweight...reality tv is not for you.
I agree. But regardless of what mental state Tonya was in, there's no excuse for what Evan and Kenny did. That's all on them and production. Maybe that's what you're saying too.
Fans always complaining about bullying and misogyny has made the show soft and pg. That's not what I want to watch. People need a thicker skin to be on THIS type of reality show. With that said, I can be the most mentally toughest woman in the world and living in a house with a bunch of "frat boys" picking at you non-stop for their own amusement would drive me crazy after a while. The response can't just be "well if you can't take it leave the show". Sometimes it's the non-frat boy like guys standing up for the women, but production also can just tell the men to give it a rest sometimes.
It was on them and production, 100%. You are missing the point and likely just trying to look for me to be saying something wrong. The point is production needs to be more responsible in protecting the cast in various ways and intervene and act when necessary. Kenny and Evan should never had the opportunity to get near a passed out Tonya with a toothbrush. Kyle should have been removed from Cara before getting to the point he punched a hole in the wall next to her. The boys should never have been allowed to tape Amanda's mouth shut. Those are moments the cast needed protection for production and they were negligent and they should be held responsible for it.
Most of the girls loved the frat boys. They loved being included in their jokes and games. Then there were the girls like Katie and Coral who wouldn't tolerate it. That's what we need not people who cry and need therapy. If you are sensitive, that is fine, but reality tv isn't the place for you.
I'm not. That's why I asked for clarification. Stop being defensive.
OS were you a frat boy in college :)?
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