The Challenge: Free Agents - Not So Trivial Pursuits

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[QUOTE=Leafie;412860]I agree! They always show the deliberation between the winners of the mission. I'm not sure why they didn't this time around, especially when there was a real disagreement over it.[/QUOTE] Zach's body language was pretty indicative of his feelings about throwing in Theresa.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;412896][B]ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU ALL-Does Jordan's antagonism warrant hand comments or are they still poor taste?[/B][/QUOTE] Anything negative said about Jordan is justified. He's overcompensating and setting himself up for criticism. Act like an adult and have some class then the comments wouldn't be warranted. Unfortunately Jordan's such an awful human being that he actually makes Bananas look like a decent one--which is laughable on so many levels.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;412787]Can someone explain to me how Laurel's hit list worked? I was kind of confused because: 1. She left off Aneesa, and had her own name on there 2. She sandwiched Theresa, who I thought was her main target, between her own name and Cara's, who she would never vote for 3. Devyn is 2nd from the top, but during the episode Laurel said she wasn't even on her radar or something like that. Anyone know?[/QUOTE] -Laurel is a flawless gangster who completely made that **** up-No way Theresa was last on her hitlist after what had just happened- she knew she just needed to scare Devyn. -Not putting Aneesa on there is expert level shade and I want to know what her bias against Jonna is exactly.
[QUOTE=Rockstar;412899]-Laurel is a flawless gangster who completely made that **** up-No way Theresa was last on her hitlist after what had just happened- she knew she just needed to scare Devyn. -Not putting Aneesa on there is expert level shade and I want to know what her bias against Jonna is exactly.[/QUOTE] I think she just wrote down everyone's name and then rambled off who she had on her list list before Devyn. Those 4 people were likely Theresa (threat to Laurel in an elimination & final), Aneesa (threat to Laurel in an elimination), Jonna (threat to Laurel in a final and someone that will always vote Laurel in) and the fourth person can be debated. Most likely it was Camila or Nany at the time. We can spin this many ways but if Devyn believed for a second that anyone other than Cara is less likely to be voted in by Laurel she's an idiot.
Laurel just randomly wrote down the names I think and was going through the list saying who she would vote for before Devyn.
Devyn should have known no way in **** was laurel ever planning on voting her in she wouldn't get rid of a easy win
Kvm I believe your the only one ever to think Jonna would be a threat in a final. When has any girl in an interview claimed she was terrified of Jonna making a final? Oh wait that has never happened. Now while I don't mind Jonna it's just a guess on your part to say she would crush final without us ever seeing her there. The finals are so hard these days that even the greatest challengers have been humbled.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412898]Anything negative said about Jordan is justified. He's overcompensating and setting himself up for criticism. Act like an adult and have some class then the comments wouldn't be warranted. Unfortunately Jordan's such an awful human being that he actually makes Bananas look like a decent one--which is laughable on so many levels.[/QUOTE] Lol.
[QUOTE=Bischoff;412905]Kvm I believe your the only one ever to think Jonna would be a threat in a final. When has any girl in an interview claimed she was terrified of Jonna making a final? Oh wait that has never happened. Now while I don't mind Jonna it's just a guess on your part to say she would crush final without us ever seeing her there. The finals are so hard these days that even the greatest challengers have been humbled.[/QUOTE] I'm not the only person. She's good at puzzles and has endurance. I never said she'd win a final or that Laurel was terrified of her. I said she'd be a threat--much like Nany. Nany & Jonna are a lot like Paula and Diem. Don't alter the words. I love the "I don't mind Jonna"...lol
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412900]I think she just wrote down everyone's name and then rambled off who she had on her list list before Devyn. Those 4 people were likely Theresa (threat to Laurel in an elimination & final), Aneesa (threat to Laurel in an elimination), [B]Jonna (threat to Laurel in a final and someone that will always vote Laurel in)[/B] and the fourth person can be debated. Most likely it was Camila or Nany at the time. We can spin this many ways but if Devyn believed for a second that anyone other than Cara is less likely to be voted in by Laurel she's an idiot.[/QUOTE] Laurel never said that, Lol. In fact, Laurel said "I don't care who comes back" during Jonna's and Emilee's elimination. She only voted Jonna in because it was early in the game and she didn't have any ties with Jonna.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412914]Laurel never said that, Lol. In fact, Laurel said "I don't care who comes back" during Jonna's and Emilee's elimination. She only voted Jonna in because it was early in the game and she didn't have any ties with Jonna.[/QUOTE] Laurel's a liar. She absolutely cared who came back. Jonna is an easy person to send in there (and a smart decision by Laurel) because she's not going to win many eliminations. I love this people that think Laurel just threw out a name. Have you never watched a previous challenge with Laurel?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412915]Laurel's a liar. She absolutely cared who came back. Jonna is an easy person to send in there (and a smart decision by Laurel) because she's not going to win many eliminations. I love this people that think Laurel just threw out a name. Have you never watched a previous challenge with Laurel?[/QUOTE] Okay I know you're a fan of Jonna but lets be realistic here. Plus Cara Maria was in the draw, I doubt Laurel wanted to vote in someone 'tough' if Cara would of had the chance to go against her. Yes I have watched Laurel in challenges. In Rivals 1, she voted in Aneesa/Robin because they were a good team and she wanted Evelyn to get out because she was a threat. [B]No one in episode 2 was a threat at that time[/B] (before the Theresa incident) and her best friend in there was Cara. I'm not going to say Laurel did this or not because I'm not Laurel nor do I know her and I'm guessing neither are you so how can you call her a liar without any facts or[B] reasonable[/B] doubts.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412918]Okay I know you're a fan of Jonna but lets be realistic here. Plus Cara Maria was in the draw, I doubt Laurel wanted to vote in someone 'tough' if Cara would of had the chance to go against her.[/QUOTE] Read what I wrote again. Jonna isn't going to win many eliminations. Sending her in, just like sending in Nany, is likely going to result in them going home while eliminating someone that can be a threat in a final. Jonna is HORRIBLE in eliminations that's why it was a smart move. Laurel wouldn't send in Aneesa or Theresa that early to face Cara because they could beat Cara but Jonna's a different kind of threat. Again, see Diem or Paula
How do you know Nany would do bad in eliminations?
Nany did amazing in her eliminations in seasons....She only lost the one because Alton threw it. How is she bad in eliminations?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412919]Read what I wrote again. Jonna isn't going to win many eliminations. Sending her in, just like sending in Nany, is likely going to result in them going home while eliminating someone that can be a threat in a final. Jonna is HORRIBLE in eliminations that's why it was a smart move. Laurel wouldn't send in Aneesa or Theresa that early to face Cara because they could beat Cara but Jonna's a different kind of threat. Again, see Diem or Paula[/QUOTE] People said Nany was a tough girl, when have you heard Jonna was a tough girl? Diem and Paual have proven they endurance but when has Jonna? She has only been on a challenge called Endurance.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412918]Okay I know you're a fan of Jonna but lets be realistic here. Plus Cara Maria was in the draw, I doubt Laurel wanted to vote in someone 'tough' if Cara would of had the chance to go against her. Yes I have watched Laurel in challenges. In Rivals 1, she voted in Aneesa/Robin because they were a good team and she wanted Evelyn to get out because she was a threat. [B]No one in episode 2 was a threat at that time[/B] (before the Theresa incident) and her best friend in there was Cara. I'm not going to say Laurel did this or not because I'm not Laurel nor do I know her and I'm guessing neither are you so how can you call her a liar without any facts or[B] reasonable[/B] doubts.[/QUOTE] Kvm clearly say that Jonna isn't a threat in a elimination especially this season since all of them have physical contact in it except for the wall one, Jonna is the tiniest girl left. So it was smart to throw her in. Jonna/Nany/Theresa are the 3 girls left other than Cara/Laurel that have potential on a final, but we haven't seen any of them yet on one yet since they don't tend to be the great in eliminations. ANeesa/Laurel are in better shape, but she still lack endurance. Jessica can be another one with potential , since she have been better than expected this season but she has been really lucky this season in my opinion.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412923]People said Nany was a tough girl, when have you heard Jonna was a tough girl? Diem and Paual have proven they endurance but when has Jonna? She has only been on a challenge called Endurance.[/QUOTE] I love the dislike and lack of respect for Jonna. I truly do. A lot of jealous women around here. Paula & Diem were said to have endurance before they ever saw a final. You don't have to see them in one to know. Just like one should know Nany will do well in a final. Nany's tough in a sense but she's not built to win eliminations. She's not beating Aneesa, Laurel, Theresa or Cara Maria in anything we've seen this year. Her & Jonna both probably beat Jessica and Devyn unless it is solely based on weight. Nany-Jonna would be interesting with Nany having a slight edge.
I think Nany could beat anyone but Laurel in some of these eliminations.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412925]I love the dislike and lack of respect for Jonna. I truly do. A lot of jealous women around here. Paula & Diem were said to bring strong with endurance before they ever saw a final. You don't have to see them in one to know. Just like one should know Nany will do well in a final. Nany's tough in a sense but she's not built to win eliminations. She's not beating Aneesa, Laurel, Theresa or Cara Maria in anything we've seen this year. Her & Jonna both probably beat Jessica and Devyn unless it is solely based on weight. Nany-Jonna would be interesting with Nany having a slight edge.[/QUOTE] Here we go, I was waiting for you to bring that 'jealosly' comments. When have I prove that I'm jealous, I'm literally stating what I've observed while you're accusing Laurel a liar meaning you're refusing to believe anything. So if are calling Laurel a liar, a person you don't know ONLY because you want to prove Jonna is some great ****** in a finals when WE'VE NEVER SEEN HER IN ONE. Then go ahead. Paula and Diem could say what they want but they proved it in their finals. I don't know if Nany will do good in a final, she does smoke which might have an effect or not.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412927]Here we go, I was waiting for you to bring that 'jealosly' comments. When have I prove that I'm jealous, I'm literally stating what I've observed while you're accusing Laurel a liar meaning you're refusing to believe anything. So if are calling Laurel a liar, a person you don't know ONLY because you want to prove Jonna is some great ****** in a finals when WE'VE NEVER SEEN HER IN ONE. Then go ahead.[/QUOTE] Laurel lied and that's okay. Everyone lies. Stop being naive. I never said "****** in a final"...I said a threat...like Nany, Diem, Paula, etc. This is a very simple concept. Jealousy is often very obvious on these boards. When one goes to extremes and alters the words others use it is either out of jealous or stupidity. You can pick which one applies. Many people are a threat in a final...they'll either live up to that potential or fail miserably
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;412926]I think Nany could beat anyone but Laurel in some of these eliminations.[/QUOTE] What elimination? Be specific... The Wall...yeah Nany (and Jonna or Jessica for that matter) COULD beat Aneesa there...maybe even Cara because she's a head case sometimes Reverse Tug-O-War...I can't see her beating anyone other than Jessica and PROBABLY Jonna Oppenheimer...honestly, that's hard to judge Balls In...Theresa and Cara destroy her. Aneesa vs. Nany would be interesting in Nany can avoid letting Aneesa get her hands on her.
KMV I like how you always fall back to jealously as being the reason people dislike Jonna. That must be why your ripping on Jordan & Dustin so much then. I'm a guy & I can admit Jonna looks good, but that has nothing do with whether she would kill a final or not. Now maybe she does have tons of endurance, but that's yet to be proven.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412923]People said Nany was a tough girl, when have you heard Jonna was a tough girl? Diem and Paual have proven they endurance but when has Jonna? She has only been on a challenge called Endurance.[/QUOTE] Laurel did on on of the live streaming that she did for MTV during Battle of the seasons 2, She was asked on who were going to be her biggest competition if she was on the challenge she said Nany, Jonna and Sarah at the time Cara/Camila were already eliminated. She also wrote this a few days ago: [ATTACH]4727[/ATTACH] Kenny also stated that Jonna is good strategies or political player. She is not someone that you would be afraid on a physical elimination because she is tiny, but on seasons 2 she proved she have a good endurance on the log challenge (Cancun almost won, if CJ didn't forgot his part of the puzzle they still finish second and Jasmine didn't almost die on it), She can eat nasty stuff proved on the eating challenge and she can do descent on a puzzles.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;412929]Laurel lied and that's okay. Everyone lies. Stop being naive. I never said "****** in a final"...I said a potential threat...like Nany, Diem, Paula, etc. This is a very simple concept. Jealousy is often very obvious on these boards. When one goes to extremes and alters the words others use it is either out of jealous or stupidity. You can pick which one applies.[/QUOTE] That's not being naive. I'm being realistic because looking at the people who were in the draw that episode Laurel obviously didn't want Cara Maria gone so why throw a great competitor. She threw Aneesa in because look at the people who were in the draw, NO one in her alliances. You have to think at the big picture. You may have not said the direct word ****** but you surely do act like she is.
[QUOTE=Bischoff;412931]KMV I like how you always fall back to jealously as being the reason people dislike Jonna. That must be why your ripping on Jordan & Dustin so much then. I'm a guy & I can admit Jonna looks good, but that has nothing do with whether she would kill a final or not. Now maybe she does have tons of endurance, but that's yet to be proven.[/QUOTE] Are you a straight guy? We've seen her endurance...go back to Seasons and Logged Out. That's when the rest of us knew that Ashley K would also kill a final. Dustin's a decent competitor while Jordan needs to stop overcompensating so he can actually show what he's capable of doing We'll see how Jordan does the rest of this season. When he earns respect I'll give it to him. I gave Dustin & Jordan credit in the past when it was earned. Jonna's consistently done well even year after year yet some people can't acknowledge that. You figure out why.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;412933]That's not being naive. I'm being realistic because looking at the people who were in the draw that episode [B]Laurel obviously didn't want Cara Maria gone so why throw a great competitor[/B]. She threw Aneesa in because look at the people who were in the draw, NO one in her alliances. You have to think at the big picture. You may have not said the direct word ****** but you surely do act like she is.[/QUOTE] You aren't being realistic though. The bold proves you refuse to read the words written. You need to stop making assumptions and learn to read--I would greatly appreciate that
[QUOTE=PinkRose;412924]Kvm clearly say that Jonna isn't a threat in a elimination especially this season since all of them have physical contact in it except for the wall one, Jonna is the tiniest girl left. So it was smart to throw her in. Jonna/Nany/Theresa are the 3 girls left other than Cara/Laurel that have potential on a final, but we haven't seen any of them yet on one yet since they don't tend to be the great in eliminations. ANeesa/Laurel are in better shape, but she still lack endurance. Jessica can be another one with potential , since she have been better than expected this season but she has been really lucky this season in my opinion.[/QUOTE] I didn't say KMV did say that? I was mentioning that Cara was in the draw and Laurel voted in someone Cara can obviously beat. When it came down to Emilee vs. Jonna, Laurel said "I don't care who comes back" because Laurel would of just crush Jonna like she did with Jasmine and Emilee was just pathetic. So it was smart for her to throw in Jonna if Cara would of gotten the kill card.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;412932]Laurel did on on of the live streaming that she did for MTV during Battle of the seasons 2, She was asked on who were going to be her biggest competition if she was on the challenge she said Nany, Jonna and Sarah at the time Cara/Camila were already eliminated. She also wrote this a few days ago: Kenny also stated that Jonna is good strategies or political player. She is not someone that you would be afraid on a physical elimination because she is tiny, but on seasons 2 she proved she have a good endurance on the log challenge (Cancun almost won, if CJ didn't forgot his part of the puzzle they still finish second and Jasmine didn't almost die on it), She can eat nasty stuff proved on the eating challenge and she can do descent on a puzzles.[/QUOTE] Laurel would absolutely love to be paired with Jonna or Nany or Sarah. There's no question those 3 and Ashley K were the best girls on Seasons. Kenny's right. Jonna's in the wrong era. She's a strategist that is undersized. Great for a big team challenge but never going to win a challenge like this.
Yeah im a straight guy what the heck. Just because I think there are better looking girls on the show than Jonna like Camila, Nany, Theresa, Ashley Kelsey just to name a few.

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