The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340303]Maybe Jenn is returning! Although I'm sure if they could have got Cara and Jenn then they would have been a team in the first place.[/QUOTE] I don't remember Jenn & Cara Maria having any type of relationship--positive or negative. If anything Cara would fit with Paula if it was another "Rivals". I'm just disappointed by this whole thing. Another horrible season waiting to happen.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340304]I don't remember Jenn & Cara Maria having any type of relationship--positive or negative. If anything Cara would fit with Paula if it was another "Rivals". I'm just disappointed by this whole thing. Another horrible season waiting to happen.[/QUOTE] Jenn hit Cara a few times during Rivals.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340305]Jenn hit Cara a few times during Rivals.[/QUOTE] When? How have I blocked this out?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340306]When? How have I blocked this out?[/QUOTE] From about minute 3, a lot of **** happened off camera as well. [video=youtube;brp7FuUXMXw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brp7FuUXMXw[/video]
Molds is Anessa not on the show? shes been quiet since mar 24. Her and naomi make more sense than cook/naomi, and Cara Maria/Aneesa would also make a good pair.
Cara got into it with Laurel and Sarah on Cutthroat. She got into it with Jenn and Mandi on Rivals, and she got into it with Camila last season.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340306]When? How have I blocked this out?[/QUOTE] oh come on dude, that was only in like every trailer of rivals, you didnt watch rivals did you?
Appreciate the link...that's still a reach but we have seen far bigger reaches. Honestly, I had no recollection of that at all--we see how little I care about drama. Would love to see Jenn back.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340310]oh come on dude, that was only in like every trailer of rivals, you didnt watch rivals did you?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I watched Rivals--I just don't care about the drama BS. I remember the stupid incident with Wes pouring coke on Cara Maria and the stupid fight after that much more than that 90 second clip.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340311]Appreciate the link...that's still a reach but we have seen far bigger reaches. Honestly, I had no recollection of that at all--we see how little I care about drama. Would love to see Jenn back.[/QUOTE] that was big, that was actually a real rivalry, unlike Wes/Kenny. Did you watch the reunion? the girls were yelling back and forth about that issue for half the show, while Wes/Kenny were hugging
Yeah I even remember Cara going around telling everyone when rivals was airing that if there was a Rivals 2 then Jenn would be her partner for sure. Obviously its not her choice but yeah. Anyway I think Jenn is done with the Challenges at this point.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340313]that was big, that was actually a real rivalry, unlike Wes/Kenny. Did you watch the reunion? the girls were yelling back and forth about that issue for half the show, while Wes/Kenny were hugging[/QUOTE] what? are you serious?
[QUOTE=Blue123;340313]that was big, that was actually a real rivalry, unlike Wes/Kenny. Did you watch the reunion? the girls were yelling back and forth about that issue for half the show, while Wes/Kenny were hugging[/QUOTE] If this is a rivalry then anything can be a rivalry. Being a "rival" has to do with competition not BS drama. I think people need to look up the definition of Rival--JMO. This is petty hatred/disdain not a rivalry.
Here's my point...they will create "rivalries" out of anything and this would be further evidence of that.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340316]If this is a rivalry then anything can be a rivalry. Being a "rival" has to do with competition not BS drama. I think people need to look up the definition of Rival--JMO. This is petty hatred/disdain not a rivalry.[/QUOTE] lol what do you mean by has to do with competition? Most true rivalries are personal, you wouldnt gt mad at someone for playing the game thats petty. Id get mad at someone for punching me in the face and trying to literally kill me, sleeping with my ex, slapping me/pushing me, you know the usual.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340318]lol what do you mean by has to do with competition? Most true rivalries are personal, you wouldnt gt mad at someone for playing the game thats petty. Id get mad at someone for punching me in the face and trying to literally kill me, sleeping with my ex, slapping me/pushing me, you know the usual.[/QUOTE] I apologize I use the real meaning of words. Look up the definition of "rival". You're wrong. Rivalry is about competition (I didn't say athletic competition) for the same thing. See, Wes & Kenny work as rivals because they were in competition for Johanna. I'm sorry but words have meanings and you're altering the definition. Here's the definition to help you out "a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity"...I have no idea why people think getting in an altercation or disagreement is a rivalry. Jenn and Cara Maria do not fall under that definition by any stretch of the imagination. Of course most of the "rivals" during that season also made no sense.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340316]Being a "rival" has to do with competition not BS drama. [/QUOTE] Well actually the reason why the Jenn and Cara fight happened was because Cara wanted her and Laurel to go against Jenn and Mandi in the jungle and was trying to get people to switch their votes.
I thought Anastasia and Jessica got along in Portland? Who would be Leroy, Tyrie, and Dunbar's rival?
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340321]Well actually the reason why the Jenn and Cara fight happened was because Cara wanted her and Laurel to go against Jenn and Mandi in the jungle and was trying to get people to switch their votes.[/QUOTE] Notice the clip didn't mention that once.... I also thought Mandi & Cara Maria had it out about that because they had made a deal prior to going on the show.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340320]I apologize I use the real meaning of words. Look up the definition of "rival". You're wrong. Rivalry is about competition (I didn't say athletic competition) for the same thing. See, Wes & Kenny work as rivals because they were in competition for Johanna. I'm sorry but words have meanings and you're altering the definition. Here's the definition to help you out "a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity"...I have no idea why people think getting in an altercation or disagreement is a rivalry. Jenn and Cara Maria do not fall under that definition by any stretch of the imagination. Of course most of the "rivals" during that season also made no sense.[/QUOTE] Ya ok there buddy, Mtv doesnt care about true meanings of words and I'm pretty sure they made the show with the same idea I was saying above. Rivals just sounds better than frenemies. In the trailers they kept saying trying to work with your "enemy" youre going to get no where trying to be technical of everything
[QUOTE=gamer73;340322]I thought Anastasia and Jessica got along in Portland? Who would be Leroy, Tyrie, and Dunbar's rival?[/QUOTE] Leroy can be with Wes Dunbar can pretty much be with anyone--including Tyrie since "Rivals" is a loose term
[QUOTE=Blue123;340325]Ya ok there buddy, Mtv doesnt care about true meanings of words and I'm pretty sure they made the show with the same idea I was saying above. Rivals just sounds better than frenemies. In the trailers they kept saying trying to work with your "enemy" youre going to get no where trying to be technical of everything[/QUOTE] I'm sorry--we should real definitions of things. This is not a rivalry by definition--that's all I said and you're agreeing with that yet still arguing
"Exes. Priscilla & Nate." Is the reply to any Rivals II doubting posts, haha.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340308]Molds is Anessa not on the show? shes been quiet since mar 24. Her and naomi make more sense than cook/naomi, and Cara Maria/Aneesa would also make a good pair.[/QUOTE] Aneesa could also be partnered with Diem. Diem doesn't have any real rivals on the show (Shavon could work from Duel 2 or even Tina from their spat on Fresh Meat). Diem and Aneesa had a falling out on Duel 1 when Aneesa went against her word and sent Diem into the Duel and proceeded to send her home. People are putting Diem with Emily which is even more of a stretch. Just because you went against someone in a final does not mean there's a rivalry, especially because neither of them won.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340328]"Exes. Priscilla & Nate." Is the reply to any Rivals II doubting posts, haha.[/QUOTE] Correct--they just make up things to fit the theme because they can't get the people they truly want.
[QUOTE=greenmonster;340329]Aneesa could also be partnered with Diem. Diem doesn't have any real rivals on the show (Shavon could work from Duel 2 or even Tina from their spat on Fresh Meat). Diem and Aneesa had a falling out on Duel 1 when Aneesa went against her word and sent Diem into the Duel and proceeded to send her home. People are putting Diem with Emily which is even more of a stretch. Just because you went against someone in a final does not mean there's a rivalry, especially because neither of them won.[/QUOTE] Technically competing against someone is more of a rivalry than Aneesa breaking her word but Aneesa-Diem definitely works. I think MTV would try to give Diem the best chance to win though so I think Emily makes more sense.
Emily will probably be with Paula due to the whole "Ty" thing
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340324]Notice the clip didn't mention that once.... I also thought Mandi & Cara Maria had it out about that because they had made a deal prior to going on the show.[/QUOTE] You would have had to watch the whole episode, that was discussed earlier. The reason why Jen was going to hit Cara was because she slept with Adam. Earlier in the show they were deciding who goes last, Johnny said Laurel is talking to the enemy, and Cara said shes not the only one and Jenn got pissed. btw I'm not arguing, youre sounding arrogant and sounding like youre trying to belittle ppl by saying "thats not what the term rival means bla bla" acting like we all didnt know some rivals were bs, lets be honest we all know this show stretches things but the cara/Jen thing is close to a legit concept. If you want legit formats where everyone fits the theme perfectly, this show isnt for you.
Blue, that's fine but do not state that a rival has nothing to do with competition. It absolutely does. This comment "lol what do you mean by has to do with competition?" is why you got the response you did. My statement was accurate and you came back with this nonsense. If you just said "MTV stretches things" this wouldn't have been a discussion--but Jenn-Cara Maria is definitely not a rivalry by definition--that is all I stated.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340332]Technically competing against someone is more of a rivalry than Aneesa breaking her word but Aneesa-Diem definitely works. I think MTV would try to give Diem the best chance to win though so I think Emily makes more sense.[/QUOTE] I personally would love to see a Diem-Emily team, but I was just pointing out other options. Team Diem-Emily would be borderline unfair if you ask me but, they would absolutely dominate and be really fun to watch.

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