The Challenge Series: RW/RR (Generic Thread)

Idk I still think that Veronica owned that Challenge she had the most power and control out of all her challenges.

Veronica was at her peak on that Challenge and Katie wasnt too bad.

She only really had control because Katie sucked so bad. I'm sure if anyone else suggested throwing the challenge, they still would have done it.

[QUOTE]I have no idea either. I think it's because he won the 3 challenges he was on but it boggles me too.[/QUOTE] Again, he was solid on all his challenges and in particularly the BOTS 1, where he was ranked 3rd on the guys side. It takes a great competitor to make it to the end of the BOTS on the guys side, and he outperformed people like Antoine, Shane, and James. [QUOTE] All of the Road Rules girls on Inferno 1 were good competitors except for Katie. [B]Holly was the best, then Christena, and then it would be a toss up between Veronica and Kendal[/B] though I'd probably give it to Veronica because of the life shields she earned. [/QUOTE] You are exactly correct, because I have and analzyed that challenge.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188207]In the balls out mission, other competitors targeted you and you had no control over it......Veronica just happened to be the last person that Coral and Leah targeted, so she didn't earn that. Also Road Rules threw the Balcony swing mission so she could win the lifesaver, so she didn't earn that either. And its not all about winning, because luck is involved most of the time(Darrell would tell you). Veronica was a top female competitor, but Holly was the best female competitor on the Inferno. [B]Timmy was in their league,[/B] he was a natural leader and was just as strong as any of those guys maybe expect for CT. He didn't win a lot of lifesavers, but he was a really strong asset to a team. Even though he was average on the Battle of the Seasons, what he did on the Inferno 1 to the Inferno 3 puts on with the top dogs. Also, Timmy was a better competitor than Darrell and Abram on the Inferno 1, and he beat Derrick(and he could of beaten him in any other Gaunlet expect for "Name that Coconut")[/QUOTE] Landon ?? Alton ?? Evan ?? except MAYBE CT ?? You keep telling yourself that, I guess we all have our opinions...

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;188213]Landon ?? Alton ?? Evan ?? except MAYBE CT ?? You keep telling yourself that, I guess we all have our opinions...[/QUOTE] Yes, did you watch the Inferno 1, Gauntlet 2, and Inferno 3? Kenny even said he would rather go up against Timmy than Alton, and Mike the Miz feared to go against Timmy aswell. Timmy wasa beast!

[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;188211]She only really had control because Katie sucked so bad. I'm sure if anyone else suggested throwing the challenge, they still would have done it.[/QUOTE] Veronica had power in the Challenge she managed to win lifesavers to save her butt, Julie and Coral were intimidated by her, She never step foot in a Inferno and she was the most nominated, sent Katie in twice and won back to back Challenges. I say she is one of the greatest female competitors in Challenge History.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188216]Veronica had power in the Challenge she managed to win lifesavers to save her butt, Julie and Coral were intimidated by her, She never step foot in a Inferno and she was the most nominated, sent Katie in twice and won back to back Challenges.[B] I say she is one of the greatest female competitors in Challenge History[/B].[/QUOTE] Yes she was, but there were a few others who were better than her, like Holly(RR9), Emily, Rachel(RR11, I believe she has now surpassed her), and Susie(I believe Susie has now surpassed her).

[QUOTE=Superboy;188215]Yes, did you watch the Inferno 1, Gauntlet 2, and Inferno 3?[B] Kenny even said he would rather go up against Timmy than Alton,[/B] and Mike the Miz feared to go against Timmy aswell. Timmy was[B] a beast[/B]![/QUOTE] Of course Kenny said that and I don't blame him . LOL !!

[QUOTE=Superboy;188215]Yes, did you watch the Inferno 1, Gauntlet 2, and Inferno 3? Kenny even said he would rather go up against Timmy than Alton, and Mike the Miz feared to go against Timmy aswell. Timmy was[B] a beast[/B]![/QUOTE] when did the Miz feared to go against Timmy. The only Challenges that Involved eliminations with both Timmy and Miz was The Inferno and I dont think The Miz was scared to go against Timmy. Timmy is strong and smart but the guys who were listed like Landon,Darrell,Alton etc... Are way stronger than Timmy and plus Landon could beat Timmy in a second.

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;188218]Of course Kenny said that and I don't blame him . LOL !![/QUOTE] Kenny clearly knew Timmy's abilities, and saw him as being stronger than Alton which he maybe was, as he showed in the first mission on the Inferno where he got across the wire with just his hands, and on the Gaunlet 2 where he destroyed Derrick. [QUOTE] [B]when did the Miz feared to go against Timmy.[/B] The only Challenges that Involved eliminations with both Timmy and Miz was The Inferno and I dont think The Miz was scared to go against Timmy. Timmy is strong and smart but the guys who were listed like Landon,Darrell,Alton etc... Are way stronger than Timmy and plus Landon could beat Timmy in a second. [/QUOTE] On the first mission on the Inferno 1, when Timmy made it across that wire with just using his hands after nearly falling (which took a great amout of strength), Miz saw that and feared to go against him because he knew he couldn't of done that......Mike's words were" I could understand why they would pick Jeremy, hell I would be scared to go against Timmy in the Inferno aswell". And Landon couldn't easily beat Timmy given that it something physical, Timmy played football most of his life and worked out a lot, he was a beast, that's how he destroyed Derrick in the Gauntlet(he made Derrick POPbackwards after TJ said "go", and Derrick is short, but not at all a skinny guy) and broke through the glass floor before Abram did on the Inferno 3.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188217]Yes she was, but there were a [B]few[/B] others who were better than her, like Holly(RR9), Emily, Rachel(RR11, I believe she has now surpassed her), and Susie(I believe Susie has now surpassed her).[/QUOTE] Im not saying Veronica is the strongest girl I was saying she is one of the greatest girls for one she is very smart and that gets you far in these challenges, Susie dosent do well in final missons and plus she bascially help the RR team on Extreme Challenge lose they all even said they would have much preferred Ayanna. Emily she hasnt done a challenge since 02 so she isnt even in the converstaion and when she did challenges they were a lot easier, Rachel yeah Rachel is stronger than Veronica but Veronica still is the Queen of Manipulation no matter how Susie gets better at Manipulating people. Did you see The Ruins were she narrowly missed out on going in the Ruins and sent in Ibis. She shares the title with Coral as being the smartest/one of the strongest/manipulators of the game.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188220]Kenny clearly knew Timmy's abilities, and saw him as being stronger than Alton which he maybe was, as he showed in the first mission on the Inferno where he got across the wire with just his hands, and on the Gaunlet 2 where he destroyed Derrick. [/QUOTE] For having a pretty good weight and height advantage he should've "destoyed" Derrick in that Gauntlet.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188222]Im not saying Veronica is the strongest girl I was saying she is one of the greatest girls for one she is very smart and that gets you far in these challenges, [B]Susie dosent do well in final missons and plus she bascially help the RR team on Extreme Challenge lose they all even said they would have much preferred Ayanna[/B]. Emily she hasnt done a challenge since 02 so she isnt even in the converstaion and when she did challenges they were a lot easier, Rachel yeah Rachel is stronger than Veronica but Veronica still is the Queen of Manipulation no matter how Susie gets better at Manipulating people. Did you see The Ruins were she narrowly missed out on going in the Ruins and sent in Ibis. She shares the title with Coral as being the smartest/one of the strongest/manipulators of the game.[/QUOTE] But that was on the Extreme challenge, look at what she's done after that with all her elimination rounds victories. Also she help the Champions win the Ruins by figuring out the puzzle. And Emily outperformed Veronica on the BOTS 1. [QUOTE] For having a pretty good weight and height advantage he should've destoyed Derrick in that Gauntlet. [/QUOTE] Yes, but he still made Derrick fly backwards after TJ said "Go", which showed you his strength. And even though Derrick is short, he was not at all a skinny guy, plus he did beat Syrus in beach brawl so he wasn't weak either.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188220]Kenny clearly knew Timmy's abilities, and saw him as being stronger than Alton which he maybe was, as he showed in the first mission on the Inferno where he got across the wire with just his hands, and on the Gaunlet 2 where he destroyed Derrick. On the first mission on the Inferno 1, when Timmy made it across that wire with just using his hands after [B]nearly falling[/B](which took a great amout of strength), Miz saw that and feared to go against him because he knew he couldn't of done that......Mike's words were" I could understand why they would pick Jeremy, hell I would be scared to go against Timmy in the Inferno aswell". And Landon couldn't easily beat Timmy given that it something physical, Timmy played football most of his life and worked out a lot, he was a beast, that's how he destroyed Derrick in the Gauntlet(he made Derrick [B]POP [/B]backwards after TJ said "go", and Derrick is short, but not at all a skinny guy) and broke through the glass floor before Abram did on the Inferno 3.[/QUOTE] The Miz does not fear Timmy from one misson I dont think so and plus Timmy has done challenges that would question his so called strength those challenges were early on challenges battle of the seasons, the inferno these challenges are what most people consider easy now if you put timmy in challenges like the Duel and Duel 2, Freshmeat 2, The Ruins he would'nt last. Landon has done moutain climbing and he is very strong and so what If timmy played football lots of people on Challenges have played football. Come on now Landon climbed a freakin mountain in British Columbia carrying his partner and plus he's gone through exiles that almost no one could go through. Timmy is just old news now

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188225]T[B]he Miz does not fear Timmy from one misson [/B]I dont think so and plus Timmy has done challenges that would question his so called strength those challenges were early on challenges battle of the seasons, the inferno these challenges are what most people consider easy now if you put timmy in challenges like the Duel and Duel 2, Freshmeat 2, The Ruins he would'nt last. Landon has done moutain climbing and he is very strong and so what If timmy played football lots of people on Challenges have played football. Come on now Landon climbed a freakin mountain in British Columbia carrying his partner and plus he's gone through exiles that almost no one could go through. Timmy is just old news now[/QUOTE] Miz did say those exact words, and in that one mission, Timmy showed how strong he was and maybe being stronger than Miz in pure physical prowess. Also Timmy is years older than Landon and played football for many years, he had more experience in the gym, landon could not easily beat Timmy(pre-Duel 2), and i'm talking about prime Timmy, not now. Did you see Timmy's body on the Inferno 1? He was in great shape.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188225]The Miz does not fear Timmy from one misson I dont think so and plus Timmy has done challenges that would question his so called strength those challenges were early on challenges battle of the seasons, the inferno these challenges are what most people consider easy now if you put timmy in challenges like the Duel and Duel 2, Freshmeat 2, The Ruins he would'nt last. Landon has done moutain climbing and he is very strong and so what If timmy played football lots of people on Challenges have played football. Come on now Landon climbed a freakin mountain in British Columbia carrying his partner and plus he's gone through exiles that almost no one could go through. Timmy is just old news now[/QUOTE] Exactly. Derrick would've creamed Timmy in any other Gauntlet besides the one that he and Timmy played. So could you imagine what Landon would do to him ? Plus the only thing I remember from Timmy on the Inferno 3 was when Timmy and his partner went against Derrick and his partner in a mission and Timmy could barely stay on his feet. He kept slipping and falling because his knees were messed up and Derrick and his partner killed Timmy and his partner in that mission. So there is no way Landon, Alton, CT, The Miz, Evan, ect. would even come close to losing to Timmy in most elimination games and missions/challenges.

Susie has grown but Veronica has grown more. From being eliminated her first Challenges Battle of the Seasons and Battle of the Sexes. Winning her first Challenge Challenge 2000 and wiining it for her team. Being the only female to win back to back Challenges The Gauntlet and The Inferno. She is very smart and more of a manipulator than Susie

Veronica was amazing in her prime. I'm talking about BOTSeasons-Inferno II. She was a massive manipulator because she was very popular. She was fun to be around so the girls wanted her to stay. She had her cliques in every challenge. She was also very physical. On the Ruins, she didn't have a clique, and she relied on her maipulation which worked for just one elimination round. Emily outperformed Veronica and Rachel on BOTS I. Emily was a massive competitor... I wish she would still do challenges, because she would be a huge asset to the females team.

Thats the point The Inferno 1 which was in 04 and Inferno 3. Compare those Challenges The Inferno Timmy was fit and all that stuff. Inferno 3 knee problems and lost to Abe. Now If you put Timmy in Freshmeat 2 he would lose, did you see Landon he was a [B]BEAST [/B]He beat everybody, carried his partner up a snowy mountain in B.C. and carried his partner through Exiles now could Timmy do that.

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;188227]Exactly. Derrick would've creamed Timmy in any other Gauntlet besides the one that he and Timmy played. So could you imagine what Landon would do to him ? Plus the only thing I remember from Timmy on the Inferno 3 was when Timmy and his partner went against Derrick and his partner in a mission and Timmy could barely stay on his feet. He kept slipping and falling because his knees were messed up and Derrick and his partner killed Timmy and his partner in that mission. So there is no way Landon, Alton, CT, The Miz, Evan, ect. would even come close to losing to Timmy in most elimination games and missions/challenges.[/QUOTE] Derrick couldn't beat Timmy in beach brawl, unless Timmy couldn't find a answer to Derrick getting under him (but I would think Timmy would have just flipped him over....LOL). Timmy would have beaten Derrick in the climing net, because he was definately a better climber (he showed that in the climbing wall mission on the Inferno 1). And in the spot on Gauntlet, Timmy would have destroyed Derrick because he was too strong for Derrick. Name that Coconut was the only Gauntlet Derrick would have beaten Timmy in because I don't think Timmy knew much about RW/RR history. And Timmy had a badly injured leg on the Inferno 3, which was the reason he did bad in that mission, but yet, he was still one of their strongest players as Johnny stated. [QUOTE]Thats the point The Inferno 1 which was in 04 and Inferno 3. Compare those Challenges The Inferno Timmy was fit and all that stuff. Inferno 3 knee problems and lost to Abe. Now If you put Timmy in Freshmeat 2 he would lose, did you see Landon he was a [B]BEAST [/B]He beat everybody, carried his partner up a snowy mountain in B.C. and carried his partner through Exiles now could Timmy do that. [/QUOTE] Timmy would have beaten Abram if he hadn't ignorantly made that mistake. And iIm talking about PRIME Timmy(Inferno 1 to Inferno 3), not now, he's too old now. Landon would NOT EASILY beat prime Timmy in a physical elimination round.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188232][B]Derrick couldn't beat Timmy in beach brawl,[/B] [B]unless Timmy [/B][B]couldn't find a answer to Derrick getting under him(but I would think Timmy would of just [/B][B]flipped him over....LOL).[/B] Timmy would of beaten Derrick in the climing net, because he was definately a better climber(he showed that in the clumbing wall mission on the Inferno 1). And in the spot on Gauntlet, Timmy would of destroyed Derrick because he was too strong for Derrick. Name that coconut was the only Gauntlet Derrick would of beaten Timmy in because I don't think Timmy knew much about RW/RR history. And Timmy had a badly injured leg on the Inferno 3, which was the reason he did bad in that mission, but yet, he was still one of their strongest players as Johnny stated.[/QUOTE] IMO Derrick would've easily beaten Timmy in Beach Brawl. Derrick was way too fast for Timmy and Derrick had much more wrestling experience than Timmy did. Net climbing would be a toss up but I like Derrick over Timmy in that but just barely. I would think Timmy would have a better shot against Derrick in Name that Coconut than Beach Brawl even though I think Derrick would beat him in that too. This is all just my opinion.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;188229]Veronica was amazing in her prime. I'm talking about BOTSeasons-Inferno II. She was a massive manipulator because she was very popular. She was fun to be around so the girls wanted her to stay. She had her cliques in every challenge. She was also very physical. On the Ruins, she didn't have a clique, and she relied on her maipulation which worked for just one elimination round. Emily outperformed Veronica and Rachel on BOTS I. Emily was a massive competitor... I wish she would still do challenges, because she would be a huge asset to the females team.[/QUOTE] Yeah I guess you're right. Only because Emily got her power starting in Battle of the Seasons and Veronica wasn't in her prime starting with Battle of the Seasons. It started in the Gauntlet. Well actually Emily didn't outperform Veronica they were neck and neck and kept going in and out of the Inner Circle. Emily voted off Rachel and Veronica because they were threats.

Landon would have beat Timmy for the simple fact that when Landon first started he didnt grow to become a strong player he was already a srong player and Timmy won once Landon won 3 times two back to back. Landon is stronger than Timmy even when Timmy was in his prime because when Timmy was in his prime he wasnt much of a threat

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;188233]IMO Derrick would've easily beaten Timmy in Beach Brawl. Derrick was way too fast for Timmy and Derrick had much more wrestling experience than Timmy did. Net climbing would be a toss up but I like Derrick over Timmy in that but just barely. I would think Timmy would have a better shot against Derrick in Name that Coconut than Beach Brawl even though I think Derrick would beat him in that too. This is all just my opinion.[/QUOTE] Timmy was actually a faster runner than Derrick, so he would have been just as fast, plus Timmy was WAY stronger than Derrick as he was older and played football most of his life and was still in great shape. And Timmy would have beaten Derrick in the climbing net without much problem. Did you see the climbing wall mission on the Inferno 1? He SMOKED every other competitor. [QUOTE]Landon would have beat Timmy for the simple fact that when Landon first started he didnt grow to become a strong player he was already a srong player and Timmy won once Landon won 3 times two back to back. Landon is stronger than Timmy even when Timmy was in his prime because when Timmy was in his prime he wasnt much of a threat [/QUOTE] Timmy was a stronger player than both Abram and Darrell on the Inferno 1, and winning is not everything as luck is involved most of the time (ask Darrell). Also, if Timmy wasn't much of a threat, why was he feared by Miz and Kenny on the challenges he was on with them? Over competitors like Darrell, Abram, and Alton?

[QUOTE=Superboy;188236] Timmy was actually a faster runner than Derrick, so he would of been just as fast,plus Timmy was WAY stronger than Derrick as he was older and played football most of his life and was still in great shape. And Timmy would of beaten Derrick in the climbing net without much problem......did you see the climbing wall mission on the Inferno 1? He SMOKED every other competitor.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about running on your feet. I'm talking about Derrick being too fast for Timmy when wrestling. Derrick played football too, I believe in college and he wrestled as well but I don't think he wrestled in college. I just think Derrick would have beaten Timmy easily in Beach Brawl.

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;188237]I'm not talking about running on your feet. I'm talking about Derrick being too fast for Timmy when wrestling. Derrick played football too, I believe in college and he wrestled as well but I don't think he wrestled in college.[/QUOTE] Timmy was still very athletic, and he was WAY stronger than Derrick and smarter as well. He could [strike]of[/strike] have figured out an answer to Derrick getting underneath him (due to being shorter), because that would [strike]of[/strike] have been the only way Derrick could [strike]of[/strike] have won.

[strike]No one feared Timmy They must have said that metorphorically. Kenny cant wn an elimination round but Darrell has won a lot, Landon, Brad, Alton who wins lifeshiels all te time. these people arent scared of Timmy who has been in what 2 elimination rounds before or 3 Come on that dosent compare to what Brad,Landon,Alton and Abe bring to the table.[/strike] No one feared Timmy. They must have said that metaphorically. Kenny can't win an elimination round but Darrell has won a lot. Just like Landon, Brad and even Alton who won a ton of life shields. These people aren't scared of Timmy who has been in what, two or three elimination rounds before? Come on. That doesn't compare to what Brad, Landon, Alton and Abe bring to the table.

Exactly Adrian. Derrick is shorter and much quicker than Timmy. Timmy won by luck.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188239]No one feared Timmy. They must have said that metaphorically. Kenny can't win an elimination round but Darrell has won a lot. Just like Landon, Brad and even Alton who won a ton of life shields. These people aren't scared of Timmy who has been in what, two or three elimination rounds before? Come on. That doesn't compare to what Brad, Landon, Alton and Abe bring to the table.[/QUOTE] Yes Kenny and Miz did fear Timmy, and they meant that literally. Also, though Timmy doesn't win lifeshields, he is still strong in missions and is a very valueable player, even more so than Brad and Alton as shown on the Gauntlet 2 and Inferno 3. [QUOTE]Exactly Adrian. Derrick is shorter and much quicker than Timmy. Timmy won by luck.[/QUOTE] Timmy destroyed Derrick more so because he was stronger, not bigger. He made Derrick fly back, and Derrick was pretty much helpless from there, because Timmy was too strong.